(09-24-2021 02:12 PM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  I believe CK will be still serving in an informal capacity to manage the relationship with Richmond.

From an athletics facilities stand point, no one has done more for JMU. Well done Mr. King.

If Job Boy was extended........he needs CK to stay on the manage the General Assembly....wow, that is really telling and highlights why someone did not merit an extension......Managing relationships is Richmond is one if the NOT the most important role for a public university president in VA.

Thanks for all you have done at JMU CK!!!!

Keeping Charlie onboard in a part time capacity is an asset to JMU, and keeping him plugged in with Richmond may be better than Alger doing it.

(09-27-2021 09:35 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Keeping Charlie onboard in a part time capacity is an asset to JMU, and keeping him plugged in with Richmond may be better than Alger doing it.

I don't disagree at all.....but also how inept Jon Alger is with his primary responsibility of engaging Richmond. It seems completely contradictory to extend Alger, but also need to keep CK on board to handle the General Assembly.

Hopeful the AD’s new autonomy will have similar results as CK, but yes, things Mr. King used to green-light will have to be signed off on by our President now.

(09-27-2021 09:58 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Hopeful the AD’s new autonomy will have similar results as CK, but yes, things Mr. King used to green-light will have to be signed off on by our President now.

ugh....i personally don't see that as a good thing......I don't think it will be good for JMU athletics if Alger chooses to insert himself and micro-manage.

I suspect he will not and our AD position will be responsible for a lot more now.

(09-27-2021 10:53 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  I suspect he will not and our AD position will be responsible for a lot more now.

I am cool with JB, but he like CK has retirement on the horizon.

I worry about Alger hiring replacements for CK and in the future JB.

(09-27-2021 09:49 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 09:35 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Keeping Charlie onboard in a part time capacity is an asset to JMU, and keeping him plugged in with Richmond may be better than Alger doing it.

I don't disagree at all.....but also how inept Jon Alger is with his primary responsibility of engaging Richmond. It seems completely contradictory to extend Alger, but also need to keep CK on board to handle the General Assembly.

I would disagree that the President's primary responsibility is engaging Richmond. That seems like something that would be best delegated to somebody like CK who's been in that relationship/circle for a life long time rather than a NY/NJ guy who's lived in the Valley for less than a decade.

I'll defer to those who are closer to the situation on this question:
Would it be fair to say that Charlie King was, for practical purposes, the more powerful, influential and indispensable administrator between himself and President Alger?

(09-27-2021 12:01 PM)olddawg Wrote:  I'll defer to those who are closer to the situation on this question:
Would it be fair to say that Charlie King was, for practical purposes, the more powerful, influential and indispensable administrator between himself and President Alger?

If it had anything to do with money in or out, then yep.

(09-27-2021 12:01 PM)olddawg Wrote:  I'll defer to those who are closer to the situation on this question:
Would it be fair to say that Charlie King was, for practical purposes, the more powerful, influential and indispensable administrator between himself and President Alger?

In a single word......YES

(09-27-2021 11:27 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 09:49 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 09:35 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Keeping Charlie onboard in a part time capacity is an asset to JMU, and keeping him plugged in with Richmond may be better than Alger doing it.

I don't disagree at all.....but also how inept Jon Alger is with his primary responsibility of engaging Richmond. It seems completely contradictory to extend Alger, but also need to keep CK on board to handle the General Assembly.

I would disagree that the President's primary responsibility is engaging Richmond. That seems like something that would be best delegated to somebody like CK who's been in that relationship/circle for a life long time rather than a NY/NJ guy who's lived in the Valley for less than a decade.

The precise reason that hiring a NY/NJ guy to be president of a public school in the Shenandoah Valley has never made much sense to me from day 1.

(09-27-2021 01:44 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 11:27 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 09:49 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 09:35 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Keeping Charlie onboard in a part time capacity is an asset to JMU, and keeping him plugged in with Richmond may be better than Alger doing it.

I don't disagree at all.....but also how inept Jon Alger is with his primary responsibility of engaging Richmond. It seems completely contradictory to extend Alger, but also need to keep CK on board to handle the General Assembly.

I would disagree that the President's primary responsibility is engaging Richmond. That seems like something that would be best delegated to somebody like CK who's been in that relationship/circle for a life long time rather than a NY/NJ guy who's lived in the Valley for less than a decade.

The precise reason that hiring a NY/NJ guy to be president of a public school in the Shenandoah Valley has never made much sense to me from day 1.

Fair point

(09-27-2021 01:44 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 11:27 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 09:49 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 09:35 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Keeping Charlie onboard in a part time capacity is an asset to JMU, and keeping him plugged in with Richmond may be better than Alger doing it.

I don't disagree at all.....but also how inept Jon Alger is with his primary responsibility of engaging Richmond. It seems completely contradictory to extend Alger, but also need to keep CK on board to handle the General Assembly.

I would disagree that the President's primary responsibility is engaging Richmond. That seems like something that would be best delegated to somebody like CK who's been in that relationship/circle for a life long time rather than a NY/NJ guy who's lived in the Valley for less than a decade.

The precise reason that hiring a NY/NJ guy to be president of a public school in the Shenandoah Valley has never made much sense to me from day 1.

President Alger grew up in upstate NY- Rochester. It’s not like he’s from Hoboken or the Bronx- not like that would matter anyway. You don’t think the JMU President doesn’t have a voice or influence in Richmond just by nature of being the JMU President? We are one of the latest Universities in the Commonwealth.

Public figures push alongside donors, call out lack of JMU leadership

Del. Jason Miyares (VA-R), a JMU alumnus, described Alger as “invisible in the General Assembly,” saying, “We don’t hear from Alger. I got sworn in in January, 2016, right? I think I’ve seen him, in the five years plus, maybe twice.”

Miyares said that to the best of his knowledge, university presidents will visit the General Assembly “at least once or twice a session.”

Sanderson also echoed Tickle’s and Miyares’ statements about Alger’s absence as a leader of the university. Though Sanderson doesn’t serve as a member of the General Assembly, he said he’s heard multiple times over that, as Miyares said, Alger can’t be found in Richmond. Miyares also said that he’s heard from “prominent alumni” who have expressed — as Tickle did — heavy frustration with Alger’s leadership.

“The lack of presence of the president in Richmond advocating for the university, leaving that to other people — I think some of the challenges that the university is having right now is because of the lack of being out in front of it, whether he believes in these things or not,” Sanderson said.

(09-28-2021 06:37 AM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  Public figures push alongside donors, call out lack of JMU leadership

Del. Jason Miyares (VA-R), a JMU alumnus, described Alger as “invisible in the General Assembly,” saying, “We don’t hear from Alger. I got sworn in in January, 2016, right? I think I’ve seen him, in the five years plus, maybe twice.”

Miyares said that to the best of his knowledge, university presidents will visit the General Assembly “at least once or twice a session.”

Sanderson also echoed Tickle’s and Miyares’ statements about Alger’s absence as a leader of the university. Though Sanderson doesn’t serve as a member of the General Assembly, he said he’s heard multiple times over that, as Miyares said, Alger can’t be found in Richmond. Miyares also said that he’s heard from “prominent alumni” who have expressed — as Tickle did — heavy frustration with Alger’s leadership.

“The lack of presence of the president in Richmond advocating for the university, leaving that to other people — I think some of the challenges that the university is having right now is because of the lack of being out in front of it, whether he believes in these things or not,” Sanderson said.

I don't like Alger - at all, but what challenges are we having right now?

(09-28-2021 02:32 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 01:44 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 11:27 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 09:49 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 09:35 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Keeping Charlie onboard in a part time capacity is an asset to JMU, and keeping him plugged in with Richmond may be better than Alger doing it.

I don't disagree at all.....but also how inept Jon Alger is with his primary responsibility of engaging Richmond. It seems completely contradictory to extend Alger, but also need to keep CK on board to handle the General Assembly.

I would disagree that the President's primary responsibility is engaging Richmond. That seems like something that would be best delegated to somebody like CK who's been in that relationship/circle for a life long time rather than a NY/NJ guy who's lived in the Valley for less than a decade.

The precise reason that hiring a NY/NJ guy to be president of a public school in the Shenandoah Valley has never made much sense to me from day 1.

President Alger grew up in upstate NY- Rochester. It’s not like he’s from Hoboken or the Bronx- not like that would matter anyway. You don’t think the JMU President doesn’t have a voice or influence in Richmond just by nature of being the JMU President? We are one of the latest Universities in the Commonwealth.

Well that is not how it works......Alger does not all of a sudden get some big cache of influence in Richmond as a result of his signature line in outlook. That level of influence and respect is earned not given and you actually have to be present in Richmond to get that.......and as others have noted that is CK's wheel-house not Alger's which IMO pretty sad testament for a public university in VA.

The ISAT/CS building has a new name.

Quote:the JMU Board of Visitors voted earlier this month to rename the ISAT/CS A1 building in honor of Charles King, senior VP for administration and finance, upon his retirement for his 25 years of dedication to the university as this was his first capital project at JMU.

Well deserved.

Nice, was built while I was at JMU.