(11-16-2021 04:26 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 03:15 PM)Indytarheel Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 02:40 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 02:08 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 12:18 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  Butch Davis, anyone?

Maybe in some sort of advisory position.

Esayem

Why not as a HC?

Can you point to anything aside from assembling one of the most talented football teams ever? Sure, Coker won with his players. He did it at Miami; the university that has a built in recruiting ground. South FL, up until the string of bad coaching decisions, was locked down and not even Bama could come in and poach talent.

Butch failed at Cleveland. Aside from raising the talent level at UNC, his W-L record at UNC was 4-8, 8-5, 8-5, 8-5. He goes to FIU and the thought was he would bring in the South FL talent, that didn't happen and his W-L record wasn't that great either (8-5, 9-4, 6-7, 0-5, 1-9). Never understood the hype.

Nope, I cant think of anything else except the amazing job he did at Miami. Im willing to give a coach a pass for failing in the NFL. It took him a few years to build Miami. But I think he might be able to do it again if he is able to build a wall around extreme South Florida and keep all that talent home. Bring in some of the same assistants and see what happens. He cant be much worse than all the misses that Miami has had since he left. It would be an interesting experiment to watch if nothing else.

I did briefly considered the U firing its AD and Butch moving on. Could this be a chance for him to return? I just don't know. Miami needs to get this one right. How many coaches... Coker, Shannon, Golden, Richt and Diaz. Damn, the turnover is crazy.

(11-16-2021 02:40 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 02:08 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 12:18 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 08:09 AM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  Miami fired their AD yesterday too. Diaz is probably next.

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Butch Davis, anyone?

Maybe in some sort of advisory position.

Esayem

Why not as a HC?

I just doubt he wants to be a head coach anymore.

Seems like from Tech boards the VT posters want Billy Napier. Pete Thamel made a point the other day that there are going to be more positions than quality coaches this cycle. A couple teams on the carousel are going to be stuck with their 7th option on their coaching Hot Board. The better names are going to be able command a significant salary.

This will be a very interesting process. Will Mel Tucker leave MSU for LSU or USC if he is offered? Will Franklin leave PSU if offered by either LSU or USC? Would Mel Tucker leaving MSU cause them to pursue UC's coach? Will UF can Mullen and what does that mean for him at other open jobs like a Va Tech? Will the new AD at Miami can Manny or wait another year before firing him? Lot of questions.

I for one am NOT excited about Bill Napier. I feel like that's Fuente all over again.

If VT goes the G5 head coach route, I'd much rather go after Luke Fickell (I know, he won't be G5 much longer, so get him now!).

OTOH, if Dan Mullen does become available, he wouldn't be a bad hire, IMO.

I seem to be in the minority, but I also wouldn't mind if VT hired Hugh Freeze. IMO, that kills 2 birds with one stone - bring a good recruiter and in-game coach to Blacksburg while also eliminating an in-state recruiting competitor.

If I'm a VT fan, I'm not sure I want this AD making the hire.

(11-18-2021 10:09 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I for one am NOT excited about Bill Napier. I feel like that's Fuente all over again.

If VT goes the G5 head coach route, I'd much rather go after Luke Fickell (I know, he won't be G5 much longer, so get him now!).

OTOH, if Dan Mullen does become available, he wouldn't be a bad hire, IMO.

I seem to be in the minority, but I also wouldn't mind if VT hired Hugh Freeze. IMO, that kills 2 birds with one stone - bring a good recruiter and in-game coach to Blacksburg while also eliminating an in-state recruiting competitor.

How is Napier Fuente all over again? At least Napier is southeastern by birth and experience.

(11-18-2021 10:44 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  If I'm a VT fan, I'm not sure I want this AD making the hire.

Whit Babcock should have fired Fuente last year in my opinion but other than that he did a good job for basketball and Olympic sports coaching hires.

I hope Napier does not go to VT and is still available when Mack retires next year.

From the "We Need All ACC Teams to Elevate Their Play" file ...

I hope Va Tech finds their guy.

I know it ain't Hugh Freeze. That dude is straight crazy. Personally replying to critical tweets from minor media figures in Louisville. What good coach does THAT??

I don't know who it is ... but I hope they succeed.

(11-18-2021 10:44 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  If I'm a VT fan, I'm not sure I want this AD making the hire.

Whit Babcock is pretty highly regarded in the industry. Not sure where that comment comes from.

(11-18-2021 11:09 AM)Statefan Wrote:  

(11-18-2021 10:09 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I for one am NOT excited about Bill Napier. I feel like that's Fuente all over again.

If VT goes the G5 head coach route, I'd much rather go after Luke Fickell (I know, he won't be G5 much longer, so get him now!).

OTOH, if Dan Mullen does become available, he wouldn't be a bad hire, IMO.

I seem to be in the minority, but I also wouldn't mind if VT hired Hugh Freeze. IMO, that kills 2 birds with one stone - bring a good recruiter and in-game coach to Blacksburg while also eliminating an in-state recruiting competitor.

How is Napier Fuente all over again? At least Napier is southeastern by birth and experience.

Just talking about inexperience at the P5 level.

(11-18-2021 10:09 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I for one am NOT excited about Bill Napier. I feel like that's Fuente all over again.

If VT goes the G5 head coach route, I'd much rather go after [b]Luke Fickell (I know, he won't be G5 much longer, so get him now!).[/b]

OTOH, if Dan Mullen does become available, he wouldn't be a bad hire, IMO.

I seem to be in the minority, but I also wouldn't mind if VT hired Hugh Freeze. IMO, that kills 2 birds with one stone - bring a good recruiter and in-game coach to Blacksburg while also eliminating an in-state recruiting competitor.

IIRC Fickell has never coached outside of the state of Ohio plus neither Fickell nor his wife have ever lived outside of the state of Ohio.
Anywhere he goes is going to be a huge adjustment.

(11-18-2021 03:25 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(11-18-2021 10:09 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I for one am NOT excited about Bill Napier. I feel like that's Fuente all over again.

If VT goes the G5 head coach route, I'd much rather go after [b]Luke Fickell (I know, he won't be G5 much longer, so get him now!).[/b]

OTOH, if Dan Mullen does become available, he wouldn't be a bad hire, IMO.

I seem to be in the minority, but I also wouldn't mind if VT hired Hugh Freeze. IMO, that kills 2 birds with one stone - bring a good recruiter and in-game coach to Blacksburg while also eliminating an in-state recruiting competitor.

IIRC Fickell has never coached outside of the state of Ohio plus neither Fickell nor his wife have ever lived outside of the state of Ohio.
Anywhere he goes is going to be a huge adjustment.

No offense, but Fickell is one of the most sought after coaches on the market. He can afford to be extremely selective on his next gig, should he chose to go elsewhere. It's probably not going to be an ACC job (Notre Dame is on that short list, but I am not counting them since they are Indy for FB).

(11-18-2021 03:25 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(11-18-2021 10:09 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I for one am NOT excited about Bill Napier. I feel like that's Fuente all over again.

If VT goes the G5 head coach route, I'd much rather go after [b]Luke Fickell (I know, he won't be G5 much longer, so get him now!).[/b]

OTOH, if Dan Mullen does become available, he wouldn't be a bad hire, IMO.

I seem to be in the minority, but I also wouldn't mind if VT hired Hugh Freeze. IMO, that kills 2 birds with one stone - bring a good recruiter and in-game coach to Blacksburg while also eliminating an in-state recruiting competitor.

IIRC Fickell has never coached outside of the state of Ohio plus neither Fickell nor his wife have ever lived outside of the state of Ohio.
Anywhere he goes is going to be a huge adjustment.

I wouldn't read too much into that. He's a pretty young guy. His first real job (after spending one season on injured reserve in New Orleans) was as an assistant at Akron, then he returned to his alma mater before getting a head coaching job at Cincinnati. Lots of people lived in one state before their fiftieth birthday. I'm sure he could learn to adjust if somebody throws megabucks at him.

Fickell does a great job barely beating marginal teams, so he’d probably do okay in the ACC. He wouldn’t go undefeated because the talent is a step up. Highly overrated coach against a weak body of competition.

He already had his hands on the mothership at OSU and what did he do? 6-7

I’d go for the JMU coach.

(11-19-2021 06:59 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’d go for the JMU coach.

By all means... go for him!

(11-19-2021 07:14 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(11-19-2021 06:59 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’d go for the JMU coach.

By all means... go for him!

That would bring the number of former Pitt assistant coaches who are now head coaches in the ACC to 4. Currently, Babers, Hafley, and Norvell are in that club.


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(11-19-2021 08:26 AM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  

(11-19-2021 07:14 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(11-19-2021 06:59 AM)esayem Wrote:  I’d go for the JMU coach.

By all means... go for him!

That would bring the number of former Pitt assistant coaches who are now head coaches in the ACC to 4. Currently, Babers, Hafley, and Norvell are in that club.


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Great... now they'll all start losing random MAC games the week after a big win.