(06-11-2021 10:31 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-11-2021 07:48 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Talk about hijacking a thread. The OP was about football, as was most of the thread. Partner has nothing to do with football. Let that go.

Please stay on topic. Do you have something to add about Athlon?

Assuming that we beat Nichols and UTSA, explain to me how we should "expect" to go 4-6 against these teams?, when we had a better record than all of them, AND we are 27-2 at home the last 4 seasons.

SMU 7-3 H
MSU 4-7 H
Tulsa 6-3
UCF 6-4
Houston 3-5
Navy 3-6 H
ECU 3-6 H
Temple 1-6
USF 1-8
Tulane 6-6 H
Arkansuck State 4-7

How is it possible to expect it? That would mean that we lose at least 6 games out of the 8 that we are favoured in.

(06-11-2021 10:43 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-11-2021 10:31 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-11-2021 07:48 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Talk about hijacking a thread. The OP was about football, as was most of the thread. Partner has nothing to do with football. Let that go.

Please stay on topic. Do you have something to add about Athlon?

Assuming that we beat Nichols and UTSA, explain to me how we should "expect" to go 4-6 against these teams?, when we had a better record than all of them, AND we are 27-2 at home the last 4 seasons.

SMU 7-3 H
MSU 4-7 H
Tulsa 6-3
UCF 6-4
Houston 3-5
Navy 3-6 H
ECU 3-6 H
Temple 1-6
USF 1-8
Tulane 6-6 H
Arkansuck State 4-7

How is it possible to expect it? That would mean that we lose at least 6 games out of the 8 that we are favoured in.

This is why I didn’t read the article. I’m really not interested in what some goofball at Athlon dreamed up. There are too many variables involved to make any meaningful predictions. We’ll find out as the season plays out. Just like last year.

(06-11-2021 11:46 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-11-2021 10:43 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-11-2021 10:31 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-11-2021 07:48 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Talk about hijacking a thread. The OP was about football, as was most of the thread. Partner has nothing to do with football. Let that go.

Please stay on topic. Do you have something to add about Athlon?

Assuming that we beat Nichols and UTSA, explain to me how we should "expect" to go 4-6 against these teams?, when we had a better record than all of them, AND we are 27-2 at home the last 4 seasons.

SMU 7-3 H
MSU 4-7 H
Tulsa 6-3
UCF 6-4
Houston 3-5
Navy 3-6 H
ECU 3-6 H
Temple 1-6
USF 1-8
Tulane 6-6 H
Arkansuck State 4-7

How is it possible to expect it? That would mean that we lose at least 6 games out of the 8 that we are favoured in.

This is why I didn’t read the article. I’m really not interested in what some goofball at Athlon dreamed up. There are too many variables involved to make any meaningful predictions. We’ll find out as the season plays out. Just like last year.

Just like every year. Athlon is usually wrong about every team but Alabama, and they are often wrong about them.

(06-11-2021 10:43 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-11-2021 10:31 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-11-2021 07:48 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Talk about hijacking a thread. The OP was about football, as was most of the thread. Partner has nothing to do with football. Let that go.

Please stay on topic. Do you have something to add about Athlon?

Assuming that we beat Nichols and UTSA, explain to me how we should "expect" to go 4-6 against these teams?, when we had a better record than all of them, AND we are 27-2 at home the last 4 seasons.

SMU 7-3 H
MSU 4-7 H
Tulsa 6-3
UCF 6-4
Houston 3-5
Navy 3-6 H
ECU 3-6 H
Temple 1-6
USF 1-8
Tulane 6-6 H
Arkansuck State 4-7

How is it possible to expect it? That would mean that we lose at least 6 games out of the 8 that we are favoured in.

Yep, hilarious. 6-6 is the absolute floor.


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(06-14-2021 08:24 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(06-11-2021 10:43 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-11-2021 10:31 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-11-2021 07:48 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Talk about hijacking a thread. The OP was about football, as was most of the thread. Partner has nothing to do with football. Let that go.

Please stay on topic. Do you have something to add about Athlon?

Assuming that we beat Nichols and UTSA, explain to me how we should "expect" to go 4-6 against these teams?, when we had a better record than all of them, AND we are 27-2 at home the last 4 seasons.

SMU 7-3 H
MSU 4-7 H
Tulsa 6-3
UCF 6-4
Houston 3-5
Navy 3-6 H
ECU 3-6 H
Temple 1-6
USF 1-8
Tulane 6-6 H
Arkansuck State 4-7

How is it possible to expect it? That would mean that we lose at least 6 games out of the 8 that we are favoured in.

Yep, hilarious. 6-6 is the absolute floor.


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We were 8-3 last year, and will go 4-6 against D1 opponents that were 44-62 last year. Everyone will turn it around. All of our opponents will improve and we will suck.

It appears as though some people still haven't gotten the memo, so I'll repeat it...

You are not allowed to have any opinion that differs from the Canadian dude.

That said, I think we'll go 8-4 or better.

(06-14-2021 11:31 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  I think we'll go 8-4 or better.

10-2 or better

tHeWoRlDiSoUrS!

(06-14-2021 02:18 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:31 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  I think we'll go 8-4 or better.

10-2 or better

tHeWoRlDiSoUrS!

Let me see the QB play after the first two games and I may jump on your bandwagon.

(06-14-2021 02:24 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 02:18 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:31 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  I think we'll go 8-4 or better.

10-2 or better

tHeWoRlDiSoUrS!

Let me see the QB play after the first two games and I may jump on your bandwagon.

There are a ton of unknowns...This can go either way. 10-2 is possible...So is 6-6...Although Unlikely.

I still say the biggest unknown is the coach...Only because he is the biggest piece of the puzzle.

If Silverfield can integrate QBs into his system like Norvell did then we should be fine...Although I still wonder about our stable of RBs.

We lacked explosiveness last year but Grandberry is a burner...I think he is still on the Roster.

(06-15-2021 03:31 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 02:24 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 02:18 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(06-14-2021 11:31 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  I think we'll go 8-4 or better.

10-2 or better

tHeWoRlDiSoUrS!

Let me see the QB play after the first two games and I may jump on your bandwagon.

There are a ton of unknowns...This can go either way. 10-2 is possible...So is 6-6...Although Unlikely.

I still say the biggest unknown is the coach...Only because he is the biggest piece of the puzzle.

If Silverfield can integrate QBs into his system like Norvell did then we should be fine...Although I still wonder about our stable of RBs.

We lacked explosiveness last year but Grandberry is a burner...I think he is still on the Roster.

the biggest known, ie the strength of this year's team will be the O line. That was one of the weakest areas of the team last season..not being able to run it like we have been accustomed to at least the last 5-6 years. We were more one-dimensional..ie pass first than we have been known to be.
And still only lost 3 games.
2 of those were winnable. We got manhandled by Cinci, I think we could have beaten Tulane with a better O line. Same with SMWho?
We have some talent at RB I think, as we lost 3? (may be 4 I am not 100% sure) and only went out and signed 1 RB with this class.
That's either a sign we were comfortable with who we have coming back at RB, OR... we screwed the pooch and lost out on several RBs in recruiting.
The O line is bringing in a OL from TCU, one from Michigan State, and the former starting C from Cinci...who had been starting until he got injured. Our line was expected to be much improved BEFORE those 3 announced they were transferring in...so I am really excited to see how well we can run the ball this year.

I hate to sound like a broken record, but barring serious injury to a QB or RB, yeah I can see 10-2.
8 wins will be the worst-case scenario...which at Memphis is still pretty darned good.
Get 10 wins...and Silverfield can get a 1 or 2 year extension on his current deal, along with a raise methinks.
As for QBs, Silverfield was one of the constant coaches on our team during the Norvell era. I'm sure he knows the offense about as well as O Coordinator Kevin Johns does...although he may not be quite the QB whisperer that Johns is.
I think we'll be fine. We have several QBs who could be starters in the AAC, and somehow we have to walk the fine line and pick just 1 of them, without the others transferring away.
Unlike years past... I don't worry about what happens if our starting QB goes down. We have some seemingly capable replacements...who aren't exactly 'hot-garbage' as one Memphis 'fan' so eloquently phrased our starter during the Fuente era. All that guy did was lead us into an era of winning football that our team had not seen in years.

So to wrap it up..we have an upgraded OL, and QB situation (talking about who we have coming in...as opposed to who we had coming in to replace Brady)... and a defense that is also supposed to be improved.
Win 8 or more games...and I'll be 100% convinced that Silverfield can last here for awhile.

I like 9-3 being pretty reasonable.

(06-04-2021 01:51 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 01:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-03-2021 03:19 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(06-01-2021 08:44 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-01-2021 08:22 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I suppose we’ll see. We won 8 games last year with no running game… riding the back of a senior QB who could check us into the right offense and complete passes even when defenses dropped 8 & managed to pressure the QB. Our oline was dreadful… so it’s asking a lot of the new group and a new QB to maintain. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m just trying to be realistic & 6-6 seems fair.

We won with a bad offensive line, a quarterback with zero mobility, lost 3,800 of receiving yardage, and lost a lot of great players. We went 8-3 during what turned out to be a rebuilding year.

Nicholls
Arkansas State 4-7
MSU 4-7
UTSA
Temple 1-6
Tulsa 7-3
Navy 3-7
UCF 6-4
SMU 7-3 H
ECU 3-6
Houston 3-5
Tulane 6-6

Why would we be an underdog to anyone except possibly UCF and Tulsa? What have the other teams done to warrant thinking that half of them will beat us?

I'll answer for the A-State game.

When anywhere close to healthy last year, they were a good team as evidenced by games with Memphis, K-State, and Louisiana, about the only games they were not devastated by COVID-you do remember that COVID thing don't you? It kicked their butt, especially in the trenches after their game with you.

They return the majority of that team, helped their underachieving HC fined another home, and hired a better one.

They were going to be a better team this year without any additions, and more than a handful for the Tigers at their place anyway, but old Butch did not stand pat and added 50+ newbies this week, and included were the following:

Thurman Geathers -DE (Louisville)
Te'Vailance Hunt-WR (TCU)
James Blackman-QB (FSU)
AJ Acock- QB (LSU)
Allen Walters- QB (Miss St)
Akeem Hayes- WR (Kentucky)
Jack Combs- WR (Iowa)
Johnnie Lang- RB (Iowa State)
Nick Lewis- OL (Kentucky)
John Mincey- DL (Tenn)
Kivon Bennett- DL (Tenn)
Tim Hardiman- DL (Navy)
Charles Willekes- DL (Mich St)
Quay Mays- DL (West Virginia)
Scooby Carter- CB (Alabama)
Khyheem Waleed-WR (Boise)

The COVID virus ended their 9 years of winning records and bowl games, but it was going to start again this year without these additions. If you get out of Jonesboro with a win it will shock me.

Weren't y'all supposed to dominate us up front last year going against one of the best DLine we faced all year.

And that best offense in the G5 was going to give us trouble.

As a reminder...Neither of those things happened.

We ran more yards against ASU than any other D1 team we played last year.

The game wasn't really close.

And that with no spring ball and like 8 practices before the game. Good on Ark. St. as they managed a spring and fall 2020! Hope they are much improved this year. Good on 'em! But, color me unimpressed with SI's talent projections based on the way he raved last year (against what was a bad Memphis line).

All I was doing last year was warning my buddies in Memphis that you most likely would not cover, and gave the whys. Think one of them is going to have their son name their next grandchild after me in gratitude.

This year I made it simple and said I would be shocked if you left Jonesboro with a win and because 95 % of the talent I went into detail about last years returns no use in going over plowed ground, and just made a passing note at the newbies that are 100% the reason IMO they are going to beat you because they are better 2-deep. Along with Butch JONES of course-he will be by far the best HC on the field, but not sure their staff matches yours.

If you beat them good for you and I will be impressed. Probably will be regardless.

(06-16-2021 08:30 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  All I was doing last year was warning my buddies in Memphis that you most likely would not cover, and gave the whys. Think one of them is going to have their son name their next grandchild after me in gratitude.

This year I made it simple and said I would be shocked if you left Jonesboro with a win and because 95 % of the talent I went into detail about last years returns no use in going over plowed ground, and just made a passing note at the newbies that are 100% the reason IMO they are going to beat you because they are better 2-deep. Along with Butch JONES of course-he will be by far the best HC on the field, but not sure their staff matches yours.

If you beat them good for you and I will be impressed. Probably will be regardless.

Why don’t your imaginary buddies ever chime in?

(06-16-2021 08:51 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(06-16-2021 08:30 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  All I was doing last year was warning my buddies in Memphis that you most likely would not cover, and gave the whys. Think one of them is going to have their son name their next grandchild after me in gratitude.

This year I made it simple and said I would be shocked if you left Jonesboro with a win and because 95 % of the talent I went into detail about last years returns no use in going over plowed ground, and just made a passing note at the newbies that are 100% the reason IMO they are going to beat you because they are better 2-deep. Along with Butch JONES of course-he will be by far the best HC on the field, but not sure their staff matches yours.

If you beat them good for you and I will be impressed. Probably will be regardless.

Why don’t your imaginary buddies ever chime in?

It would too obviously give away his aliases. Although this last post gives me a good idea who they are.

(05-31-2021 06:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-31-2021 05:28 PM)GoDownSwinging Wrote:  Yeah I do believe we will go 6-6 right now. There are a lot of unknowns for this team. We went 4-1 last year games determined by 3 points or fewer. That is a stat that is not sustainable. With graduate transfer taking a hit at our depth, there's just too many unknowns.
The Arkansas State game will be the game that solves a lot of questions. It'll be our first test on the road against a team in Butch Jones that is trying to revamp himself and will coach with a chip on his shoulder.
I do believe Gunnell will do good, but the playmakers around him will be lacking to a certain degree.

Arkansas State loses 2 of their top 3 receivers receivers, their top running back and a lot of other key seniors from a team that went 4-7. We are 26-2 at home the last 4 years, with a 1 point loss to #10 UCF and a 1 point loss to Iowa State, only because Henderson sat out.

Sure, we are all of a sudden going to go 6-6. Some of our fans sure do like to keep it "real." :lmfao:

(05-31-2021 06:31 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-31-2021 04:39 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Athlon Sports predicts us to finish 7th in AAC... with a 6-6 record.
Yikes.
If our OL is as good as I know it's going to be... Memphis' running game is going to make some people remember that we've been a good running team for the 6 years prior to last season. It will help the new QB pick up the slack.... I think we have 8-9 wins at WORST in us next year. Should be a hungry group of OL and RBs anxious to prove last season was an anomaly.

https://247sports.com/college/memphis/Ar...165873849/

Athlons is overly optimistic

Prescience. I'll allow it.

(11-13-2021 03:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-31-2021 06:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-31-2021 05:28 PM)GoDownSwinging Wrote:  Yeah I do believe we will go 6-6 right now. There are a lot of unknowns for this team. We went 4-1 last year games determined by 3 points or fewer. That is a stat that is not sustainable. With graduate transfer taking a hit at our depth, there's just too many unknowns.
The Arkansas State game will be the game that solves a lot of questions. It'll be our first test on the road against a team in Butch Jones that is trying to revamp himself and will coach with a chip on his shoulder.
I do believe Gunnell will do good, but the playmakers around him will be lacking to a certain degree.

Arkansas State loses 2 of their top 3 receivers receivers, their top running back and a lot of other key seniors from a team that went 4-7. We are 26-2 at home the last 4 years, with a 1 point loss to #10 UCF and a 1 point loss to Iowa State, only because Henderson sat out.

Sure, we are all of a sudden going to go 6-6. Some of our fans sure do like to keep it "real." :lmfao:

(06-01-2021 08:22 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-31-2021 11:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-31-2021 08:04 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Brady made up for a subpar run game and really bad defense. Hard to see how we’re within a game or 2 of last year.

White was exponentially great with a great offensive line, and exponentially not great with a not great offensive line. The new quarterback will almost for sure not be as accurate, but all 3 are much better runners and will also be able to buy more time in the pocket.

I suppose we’ll see. We won 8 games last year with no running game… riding the back of a senior QB who could check us into the right offense and complete passes even when defenses dropped 8 & managed to pressure the QB. Our oline was dreadful… so it’s asking a lot of the new group and a new QB to maintain. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m just trying to be realistic & 6-6 seems fair.

bump

https://theamerican.org/standings.aspx?standings=78

(06-01-2021 08:48 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(05-31-2021 06:31 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-31-2021 04:39 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  Athlon Sports predicts us to finish 7th in AAC... with a 6-6 record.
Yikes.
If our OL is as good as I know it's going to be... Memphis' running game is going to make some people remember that we've been a good running team for the 6 years prior to last season. It will help the new QB pick up the slack.... I think we have 8-9 wins at WORST in us next year. Should be a hungry group of OL and RBs anxious to prove last season was an anomaly.

https://247sports.com/college/memphis/Ar...165873849/

Athlons is overly optimistic

Clown.

Never ever ever question my predictions again. You forfeit all rights to respond to me to unless called upon directly.

Know your betters and just listen