After reading the entire calendar of communications it's clear the bureaucracy has not not changed. That's a mind numbing processes.
So yes, don't talk to a lawyer without a lawyer advising you. Don't assume anything is fair, honest or forthright.

I was subjected to some completely untrue allegations recently that were trumped up to intimidate me into doing something that would have been completely wrong. The other side wanted to enter into mediation. I said we have nothing to mediate, I can't do what I'm being asked to do but I will sit at the table once I get representation. They said oh no, you can't have representation in a mediation. I happen to be a Rule 31 trained Court Mediator and told them so and called their bluff. Haven't heard from them since.

Sometimes just having representation is enough to chase the pretenders away.

(11-09-2021 04:04 PM)bbqtiger Wrote:  And how about John Calipari's status as a booster. He donated a pretty good sum to the University while he was here as I recall.

So, does that mean he should not have recruited after that donation? (SARCASM)

When you become a coach and during that time you are no longer considered a booster. That is a status.

Starts when you are a coach and stops when you leave coaching.

(11-09-2021 03:57 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  Something that has been bothering me for quite some time. If EVER giving money to the University of Memphis makes you a booster for life, and "boosters" cannot be involved in recruiting, are we required to only hire coaches that have never donated to the University?

That was not the issue...

The issue is Penny was a booster who "Paid\Helped" a recruit...

Even if Penny didn't become the Memphis coach Wiseman likely would have had the same issue and would have been punished if he attended Memphis.

These ncaa fools know what they’re doing and did on the day of the first game to mess with Penny.

Same as they did with the OK State coach and making him testify on the Kansas game day.

(11-09-2021 05:27 PM)griffin Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 04:04 PM)bbqtiger Wrote:  And how about John Calipari's status as a booster. He donated a pretty good sum to the University while he was here as I recall.

So, does that mean he should not have recruited after that donation? (SARCASM)

When you become a coach and during that time you are no longer considered a booster. That is a status.

Starts when you are a coach and stops when you leave coaching.

I mean,coach, booster, you give a kid money and they’re going to end up ineligible.

ok..so they make Penny sit a few games...and his lead assistant coaches during his absence... the worst-case scenario.
Larry Freakin' Brown for the win.

I am seriously hoping that this turns out to be just an X-#game suspension of Hardaway, maybe a future loss of a scholarship or two, etc. Hopefully he is the focus of this, he weathers the storm and then we all move on.

My hope is that they let us go for time served. NCAA required Wiseman to sit out several games, he did that. If I recall, Wiseman didn't announce that he was not coming back until he had finished, or was a game away from completing the NCAA missed-games penalty.
Regardless, Wiseman's decision to drop out of school should not be relevant. He didn't play, so the penalty was served.

Move on and go after the schools that the FBI is chasing.

(11-09-2021 10:26 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 05:27 PM)griffin Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 04:04 PM)bbqtiger Wrote:  And how about John Calipari's status as a booster. He donated a pretty good sum to the University while he was here as I recall.

So, does that mean he should not have recruited after that donation? (SARCASM)

When you become a coach and during that time you are no longer considered a booster. That is a status.

Starts when you are a coach and stops when you leave coaching.

I mean,coach, booster, you give a kid money and they’re going to end up ineligible.

But he wasn’t technically. He got what 9 games or 12? So you’re going to tell me the ncaa is mad because he opted out ?

(11-09-2021 10:26 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 05:27 PM)griffin Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 04:04 PM)bbqtiger Wrote:  And how about John Calipari's status as a booster. He donated a pretty good sum to the University while he was here as I recall.

So, does that mean he should not have recruited after that donation? (SARCASM)

When you become a coach and during that time you are no longer considered a booster. That is a status.

Starts when you are a coach and stops when you leave coaching.

I mean,coach, booster, you give a kid money and they’re going to end up ineligible.

Exactly...Or they are not going to be able to play for the school you are a coach or booster for.

But looking at how injury prone Wiseman has been in the league...I doubt things would have worked out better for him if he played...In hindsight opting out probably was best for Wiseman.

(11-09-2021 04:58 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  So isn't this where Leslie Ballin, a great attorney, steps in?

Maybe Penny just sought his counsel?

Maybe it's like the medicare commercials where he called to get everything he's entitled to?

Only if he done kilt somebody.

What bothers me is the fallout from these NCAA investigations. They have no problem with damaging innocent third parties along the way. It's like someone committing a crime and instead of focusing on the party who did it...they throw their entire family in jail as well. They just don't care.

(11-10-2021 04:12 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 10:26 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 05:27 PM)griffin Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 04:04 PM)bbqtiger Wrote:  And how about John Calipari's status as a booster. He donated a pretty good sum to the University while he was here as I recall.

So, does that mean he should not have recruited after that donation? (SARCASM)

When you become a coach and during that time you are no longer considered a booster. That is a status.

Starts when you are a coach and stops when you leave coaching.

I mean,coach, booster, you give a kid money and they’re going to end up ineligible.

Exactly...Or they are not going to be able to play for the school you are a coach or booster for.

But looking at how injury prone Wiseman has been in the league...I doubt things would have worked out better for him if he played...In hindsight opting out probably was best for Wiseman.

He was what appears to be an innocent third party damaged in the process,

(11-10-2021 04:52 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-10-2021 04:12 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 10:26 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 05:27 PM)griffin Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 04:04 PM)bbqtiger Wrote:  And how about John Calipari's status as a booster. He donated a pretty good sum to the University while he was here as I recall.

So, does that mean he should not have recruited after that donation? (SARCASM)

When you become a coach and during that time you are no longer considered a booster. That is a status.

Starts when you are a coach and stops when you leave coaching.

I mean,coach, booster, you give a kid money and they’re going to end up ineligible.

Exactly...Or they are not going to be able to play for the school you are a coach or booster for.

But looking at how injury prone Wiseman has been in the league...I doubt things would have worked out better for him if he played...In hindsight opting out probably was best for Wiseman.

He was what appears to be an innocent third party damaged in the process,

The innocent third party is going to be whatever future Tiger class gets a postseason ban.

(11-10-2021 04:28 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 04:58 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  So isn't this where Leslie Ballin, a great attorney, steps in?

Maybe Penny just sought his counsel?

Maybe it's like the medicare commercials where he called to get everything he's entitled to?

Only if he done kilt somebody.

I personally know he can make a second dui look like a first one in court. That means a lot when the sentence is handed down.

He handles so many cases in court daily that he pays people to stand in court for him to let the judge know he's in another courtroom.

(11-10-2021 04:10 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 10:26 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 05:27 PM)griffin Wrote:  

(11-09-2021 04:04 PM)bbqtiger Wrote:  And how about John Calipari's status as a booster. He donated a pretty good sum to the University while he was here as I recall.

So, does that mean he should not have recruited after that donation? (SARCASM)

When you become a coach and during that time you are no longer considered a booster. That is a status.

Starts when you are a coach and stops when you leave coaching.

I mean,coach, booster, you give a kid money and they’re going to end up ineligible.

But he wasn’t technically. He got what 9 games or 12? So you’re going to tell me the ncaa is mad because he opted out ?

The NCAA uses a scale. If you take X amount of money you have to sit X number of games plus you have to pay back the money. It's a total farce anyway because where is a college kid going to get the money to pay them back? From the same person that gave them the money that got them in trouble?

You know what they say... "The man who represents himself has a fool for a client."

I never understood this IARP thing and thus always just considered it a joke. I mean didn't they already punish us by making Wiseman sit out a certain number of games? They supposedly officially cleared him and one would assume Memphis for wrong doing after he sat out these games. Well we did them better and sat him the entire season after those first 2 games. He never came back. So that should be MORE than enough to satisfy them. I mean they officially cleared him for half a season and he only played 2 games. So what is their problem? Like I said, it's a joke. And anyone who worries about it, shouldn't be.

Ike Hope's a high powered Memphis Lawyer represents Penny
PRO BONO

(11-11-2021 09:27 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  You know what they say... "The man who represents himself has a fool for a client."

They say Abraham Lincoln said it.