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Week 4: Marshall at Appalachian State Game Thread
Thursday, September 23rd
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The transitive property of a common opponent tells us next to nothing but App handled an ECU team that held Marshall to a 0 spot in the 4th quarter and came back to win. App still has to contend with Grant Wells at QB who looked damn good against us last year.
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RE: Week 4: Marshall at Appalachian State Game Thread
(09-20-2021 04:21 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:   Thursday, September 23rd
7:30pm
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The transitive property of a common opponent tells us next to nothing but App handled an ECU team that held Marshall to a 0 spot in the 4th quarter and came back to win. App still has to contend with Grant Wells at QB who looked damn good against us last year.

The key will be that Tony Peterson isn't in Boone any more. When Marshall stacked the box, he motioned guys back toward the the play before the snap more times than I care to count, bringing yet an extra guy in the box.

Based on what I saw against Elon, I believe that Ponce was calling a fairly straightforward game plan that didn't involve any deception. It was just straight up zone stretch, crossing routes, go routes, play action, etc. I believe that he will have some packages to spread out Marshall's defense to help open up the running game, and if not the running game, then the play action pass if Marshall doesn't back out of the box. Peterson would've run into a brick wall if it was opposite the offensive line so I couldn't be more glad to see him gone (I believe that the Illini will want him gone as well).

My concern is the defense. They were eaten alive on slants because Elon's QB managed to get the ball off in about 1.5 seconds every time there was pressure, which is why App didn't send much pressure. Dinking and dunking won't win Marshall the game though so I expect Wells will be tasked with holding the ball longer.

Prediction: App - 41 Marshall - 21
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RE: Week 4: Marshall at Appalachian State Game Thread
It'll be fun to see (maybe) two future divisional rivals square off this Thursday
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RE: Week 4: Marshall at Appalachian State Game Thread
The hurry up offense could be trouble for App, we shouldn’t be surprised by it.
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RE: Week 4: Marshall at Appalachian State Game Thread
Marshall has shown a much more proficient, high octane O in 2021.

The ECU game is deceptive. Marshall held a 17 point lead with 7 minutes remaining. Had it not been a failed 4th and 2 on our 30 yard line, where most teams would have elected for a field goal, the ECU spark may have never occurred.

The Marshall D better step up. It should be a fun, hostile environment.

I don't think we win, but I KNOW we will not lose by 20+...
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App by 10

The two programs will spend mutltiple days after the game arguing about whether or not it was a blowout.
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RE: Week 4: Marshall at Appalachian State Game Thread
(09-20-2021 07:12 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Marshall has shown a much more proficient, high octane O in 2021.

The ECU game is deceptive. Marshall held a 17 point lead with 7 minutes remaining. Had it not been a failed 4th and 2 on our 30 yard line, where most teams would have elected for a field goal, the ECU spark may have never occurred.

The Marshall D better step up. It should be a fun, hostile environment.

I don't think we win, but I KNOW we will not lose by 20+...

Bold statement there. I’ll be back on Friday 03-wink
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(09-20-2021 07:29 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 07:12 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Marshall has shown a much more proficient, high octane O in 2021.

The ECU game is deceptive. Marshall held a 17 point lead with 7 minutes remaining. Had it not been a failed 4th and 2 on our 30 yard line, where most teams would have elected for a field goal, the ECU spark may have never occurred.

The Marshall D better step up. It should be a fun, hostile environment.

I don't think we win, but I KNOW we will not lose by 20+...

Bold statement there. I’ll be back on Friday 03-wink

Lol, bold statement to say we won't lose by 20+

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I won't be shocked either way with a win or loss. But I would be disappointed in a blowout loss.
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(09-20-2021 07:12 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Had it not been a failed 4th and 2 on our 30 yard line, where most teams would have elected for a field goal, the ECU spark may have never occurred.
You mean their 30 yard line?
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(09-20-2021 08:19 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 07:12 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Had it not been a failed 4th and 2 on our 30 yard line, where most teams would have elected for a field goal, the ECU spark may have never occurred.
You mean their 30 yard line?

We could have kicked what would be around a 47 yard FG. With a TD we would have been up 45-21.

We failed, and they immediately started their run.
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RE: Week 4: Marshall at Appalachian State Game Thread
(09-20-2021 08:39 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 08:19 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 07:12 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Had it not been a failed 4th and 2 on our 30 yard line, where most teams would have elected for a field goal, the ECU spark may have never occurred.
You mean their 30 yard line?

We could have kicked what would be around a 47 yard FG. With a TD we would have been up 45-21.

We failed, and they immediately started their run.
That’s tough.

Really looking forward to Thursday night! Good luck and come out healthy.
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(09-20-2021 07:35 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 07:29 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 07:12 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Marshall has shown a much more proficient, high octane O in 2021.

The ECU game is deceptive. Marshall held a 17 point lead with 7 minutes remaining. Had it not been a failed 4th and 2 on our 30 yard line, where most teams would have elected for a field goal, the ECU spark may have never occurred.

The Marshall D better step up. It should be a fun, hostile environment.

I don't think we win, but I KNOW we will not lose by 20+...

Bold statement there. I’ll be back on Friday 03-wink

Lol, bold statement to say we won't lose by 20+

01-wingedeagle

I won't be shocked either way with a win or loss. But I would be disappointed in a blowout loss.

I agree. It won't be a +20 blow out for either team.
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RE: Week 4: Marshall at Appalachian State Game Thread
(09-20-2021 08:39 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 08:19 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 07:12 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Had it not been a failed 4th and 2 on our 30 yard line, where most teams would have elected for a field goal, the ECU spark may have never occurred.
You mean their 30 yard line?

We could have kicked what would be around a 47 yard FG. With a TD we would have been up 45-21.

We failed, and they immediately started their run.

Worse than that was the fumble at the one yard line in the 3rd quarter which would have made the score 45-21 or maybe even 45-14 I can't remember.
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I'm cautiously optimistic just like I was before the ECU game. We are capable of putting up 50 points and we are capable of having 6 turnovers, and it's possible we do both in the same game lol.

If we somehow win then I think it will be a close game. App could either win a close game or blow us out and neither would surprise me. The only outcome that could surprise me is if we somehow blew out App.

Expect our defense to blitz a lot and expect us to blitz from every where. We are very aggressive on defense. I love it, but I don't think we have the right guys in place yet so it sometimes hurts us. Either way, I love the style to be honest.

On offense, we will run tempo (fastest in the nation right now) and we will throw it down the field a lot. If our QB will ever stop throwing in to double and triple coverage then we would be dangerous. He's a lot like Brett Favre to be honest. He thinks he can throw it in to any window. Sometimes he completes it and you think WOW, what a throw. Other times you ask, why in the heck would he even attempt to throw that pass? Overall ball security has been an issue for us in all three games so far which is why I don't think we will win.

App has a solid defense and I think you all will force turnovers and win by 2+ scores.
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Marshall wins and App St fans melt down their message boards
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Marshall is not capable of scoring 50 on App’s defense.

The under may be the play this week.
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(09-21-2021 07:15 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Marshall is not capable of scoring 50 on App’s defense.

The under may be the play this week.

Playing a highly up-tempo team? I really don't know. Could you go into further detail about what makes your defense so good this year? I'm curious.

Our O is highly proficient and very fast-paced. Just prone to turnovers.
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Our offense will not give you the number of possessions to score that many. This will likely be the best defense you see all year.
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(09-21-2021 07:40 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Our offense will not give you the number of possessions to score that many. This will likely be the best defense you see all year.

Marshall's offense doesn't need a lot of time to score. We only had 21 minutes of possession against Navy and scored 49 points.

Now realize I understand that's Navy's defense, but you get the point. We play very uptempo and don't need a lot of time..

Also, no disrespect to App, but FAU has a very good defense as well.
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(09-21-2021 07:15 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Marshall is not capable of scoring 50 on App’s defense.

The under may be the play this week.

Gonna agree with this take. Nothing against Marshall's Offense, it's just that I think App has hands down the best D in the Sun Belt. Coastal's O is incredible when firing on all cylinders, but even we wouldn't put up 50 on App. They're just too disciplined.
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