Is this what life was like under the Carter administration?

Worse.

(08-17-2021 02:08 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Is this what life was like under the Carter administration?

Not yet. I remember as a kid getting in the car on "gas day" and waiting in line to fill up the station wagon buying gas by the half gallon because the pumps only went up to 99.9cents per gallon and gas cost more than that. The reason I say "gas day" because the gas stations weren't open every day. And when I mean lines, I mean lines out on the street with the police directing traffic. I remember my mom praying they wouldn't run out by the time we would get to the pump. Also, at that time ALL of my clothes were made by my mom or was previously my older brother's with patches in the knees. I don't remember going to the store to buy "school clothes" until the Reagan presidency. It turned around real quick. I'm 49.

(08-17-2021 02:13 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 02:08 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Is this what life was like under the Carter administration?

Not yet. I remember as a kid getting in the car on "gas day" and waiting in line to fill up the station wagon buying gas by the half gallon because the pumps only went up to 99.9cents per gallon and gas cost more than that. The reason I say "gas day" because the gas stations weren't open every day. And when I mean lines, I mean lines out on the street with the police directing traffic. I remember my mom praying they wouldn't run out by the time we would get to the pump. Also, at that time ALL of my clothes were made by my mom or was previously my older brother's with patches in the knees. I don't remember going to the store to buy "school clothes" until the Reagan presidency. It turned around real quick. I'm 49.

The nation spoke and demanded a change in 1980.

We don't have that voice anymore. If we did, Trump would still be president.

(08-17-2021 02:11 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Worse.

Yes. Carter was at least not a jerk and was actually smart even if he made bad decisions.

No, Carter at least made His own mistakes. Biden thinks He's doing something but His teleprompter writer (Bernie) is pulling the strings here along with George Sonos, China, Iran, Russia

(08-17-2021 02:13 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 02:08 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Is this what life was like under the Carter administration?

Not yet. I remember as a kid getting in the car on "gas day" and waiting in line to fill up the station wagon buying gas by the half gallon because the pumps only went up to 99.9cents per gallon and gas cost more than that. The reason I say "gas day" because the gas stations weren't open every day. And when I mean lines, I mean lines out on the street with the police directing traffic. I remember my mom praying they wouldn't run out by the time we would get to the pump. Also, at that time ALL of my clothes were made by my mom or was previously my older brother's with patches in the knees. I don't remember going to the store to buy "school clothes" until the Reagan presidency. It turned around real quick. I'm 49.

It is true we don't have gas lines. But both did their best to harm the oil & gas industry. Carter with his Winfall Profits Tax. Biden with his restrictions on drilling and pipelines. Biden has dramatically driven up prices and cost jobs.

And stagflation isn't at the Carteresque peak of 18% inflation and 8% unemployment. The Iran situation was humiliating but not as much as Afghanistan. Carter couldn't get things done in Congress even with majorities in both houses of Congress. That's similar. But Carter didn't have videos coming out of the White House like Biden and Psaki. Carter didn't go around blaming Ford and Nixon for his own incompetence. And he didn't embarrass himself every day.

(08-17-2021 02:28 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 02:11 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Worse.

Yes. Carter was at least not a jerk and was actually smart even if he made bad decisions.

Carter does always seem to be characterized as a good person or moral man even though he was a poor leader. You can't call Biden a good person or moral man. He's corrupt and inept.

(08-17-2021 02:13 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 02:08 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Is this what life was like under the Carter administration?

Not yet. I remember as a kid getting in the car on "gas day" and waiting in line to fill up the station wagon buying gas by the half gallon because the pumps only went up to 99.9cents per gallon and gas cost more than that. The reason I say "gas day" because the gas stations weren't open every day. And when I mean lines, I mean lines out on the street with the police directing traffic. I remember my mom praying they wouldn't run out by the time we would get to the pump. Also, at that time ALL of my clothes were made by my mom or was previously my older brother's with patches in the knees. I don't remember going to the store to buy "school clothes" until the Reagan presidency. It turned around real quick. I'm 49.

This.

Good synopsis.

This was part of my first "job".

Tom and I would scour the local hippy hangouts for empty soda or other bottles and return them for I think a nickel a piece.

We then turned those nickels into more sodas, would chill them at his house, right down the street from the local Shell station, then sell them to the people in the blocks long lines in the sweltering Summer heat for maybe $.50/ea.

We'd start at the back of the line and usually sell out about halfway through. We'd then go back to where we started and ask for the bottles back and off to the store we'd go. We'd make about 20-30 bucks a piece each day on the weekends.

We had Odd-Even days for getting gas, depending on your license plate # and the limit was 5 bucks (or gallons) per car I think it was.

Sucked up a LOT of fumes doing that, these were cars getting around 12 miles per gallon, so 5 gallons didn't get you far. We saw the same people in those lines about 3 times a week.

We're not there just yet, but Sloe* and Co. sure are trying.

How long til we have the next hostage crisis with the Taliban and our Embassy in Kabul?

Jimma Carter 2.0, The Redux

The similarities are honestly rather astounding, just run down the list.

At least back then our old folks were getting 10-12% interest on their fixed income retirements, those numbers today are very close to ZERO.



C'mon two scoops, you can DO IT!!!

The reason we dont have gas lines yet is because Trump got us to energy independence. Biden* is doing what Carter basically did, (Shutting down domestic production) but it will take longer to see the effects since a much better oil/gas infrastructure was in place when Biden* took over.

One difference? Carter was/is a decent human who wasn’t looking to spend 5-6 decades on the public dole while trying to improve his enrich his extended family’s fortunes.

He was by and large a public servant. Now we get a permanent ruling class.

Carter was also the target of the media pretty relentlessly...now they carry Biden’s water unless they can’t stomach it like this past weekend.

(08-17-2021 02:25 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The nation spoke and demanded a change in 1980.

We don't have that voice anymore. If we did, Trump would still be president.

This. And I’ll even go a step further and say that if America “had that voice anymore”, Trump would never have felt the need to run for president in the first place, because a Reaganite establishment would be minding the store and would be on the pro-American side of the globalist/nationalist divide.

But as you said, we don’t have that voice anymore.

The simple fact is that basically one-half of the country has embraced national weakness and decline. With Clinton, Obama, and now Biden (plus sporadic control of Congress by people like Pelosi), we know it’s not a fluke or a one-off. It’s just what they want. Trump was a temporary roadblock to that agenda, and God bless him for it. But eventually they worked around him. We will simply have to deal with this as best we can.

(08-17-2021 03:00 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 02:25 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The nation spoke and demanded a change in 1980.

We don't have that voice anymore. If we did, Trump would still be president.

This. And I’ll even go a step further and say that if America “had that voice anymore”, Trump would never have felt the need to run for president in the first place, because a Reaganite establishment would be minding the store and would be on the pro-American side of the globalist/nationalist divide.

But as you said, we don’t have that voice anymore.

The simple fact is that basically one-half of the country has embraced national weakness and decline. With Clinton, Obama, and now Biden (plus sporadic control of Congress by people like Pelosi), we know it’s not a fluke or a one-off. It’s just what they want. Trump was a temporary roadblock to that agenda, and God bless him for it. But eventually they worked around him. We will simply have to deal with this as best we can.

We can’t simply deal with politicians being installed instead of elected.

(08-17-2021 03:09 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 03:00 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(08-17-2021 02:25 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The nation spoke and demanded a change in 1980.

We don't have that voice anymore. If we did, Trump would still be president.

This. And I’ll even go a step further and say that if America “had that voice anymore”, Trump would never have felt the need to run for president in the first place, because a Reaganite establishment would be minding the store and would be on the pro-American side of the globalist/nationalist divide.

But as you said, we don’t have that voice anymore.

The simple fact is that basically one-half of the country has embraced national weakness and decline. With Clinton, Obama, and now Biden (plus sporadic control of Congress by people like Pelosi), we know it’s not a fluke or a one-off. It’s just what they want. Trump was a temporary roadblock to that agenda, and God bless him for it. But eventually they worked around him. We will simply have to deal with this as best we can.

We can’t simply deal with politicians being installed instead of elected.

Why not?
Isn’t that what we’re doing right now?

(08-17-2021 02:55 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The reason we dont have gas lines yet is because Trump got us to energy independence. Biden* is doing what Carter basically did, (Shutting down domestic production) but it will take longer to see the effects since a much better oil/gas infrastructure was in place when Biden* took over.

We've seen gas lines recently and will probably see them again. I don't remembe much of Carter as I was just a small kid back then, but I do remember my parents talking about gas lines, etc. For some reason what i remember most are the daughter jokes. Poor kid.

IMO, the ‘73 oil crisis was worse than ‘79 from a personal perspective…

either way, OPEC was a biatch…we allowed them to dictate supply….that should have never happened…

first was tricky dick’s watch - the other was Carter’s … I thought both sucked balls…still do…

Nixon and carter were awful presidents…the former was a domestic dipshite, and the latter sucked at foreign and domestic…

suck = suck

(08-17-2021 03:18 PM)VA49er Wrote:  I don't remembe much of Carter as I was just a small kid back then, but I do remember my parents talking about gas lines, etc. For some reason what i remember most are the daughter jokes. Poor kid.

Amy Carter was 13 when her dad got crushed in the biggest electoral landslide ever suffered by an incumbent president, except for maybe Wm. Howard Taft. And despite Carter’s status as a Democrat, he was still crucified by most of the media. No doubt her parents tried to shield her from some of that, but also no doubt that they couldn’t shield her from all of it. I don’t wish that on any kid, no matter what the politics.

She went to Brown University in Rhode Island and got arrested a few times as a part of various left-wing protests. Then dropped out for not doing any class work. Had a non-traditional, secular wedding. I’ve seen her around Atlanta a few times in the last ~25 years. She hasn’t really taken an active role in politics, far as I know, but every opinion I’ve heard her express in public could have been a quote taken directly from Joy Reid or Rachel Maddow.

(08-17-2021 02:08 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Is this what life was like under the Carter administration?

Similar feel.

But, back in the late 70's, you didn't have 90% of the media covering for Carter, like they do now for Biden. They (mostly) just reported the news as it was.

Politicians will always be corrupt/inept. It's the media's job to keep them in check. Or, it was.

(08-17-2021 03:19 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Every stupid a$$ in that whole video that said they approved of Biden knew nothing of what he was doing.

Nothing.

There's Biden nation for ya.