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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-07-2021 09:16 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 08:46 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  
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(07-07-2021 07:14 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Until this all settles out some "G5 schools" with big boosters should see this as a window of opportunity to jump in now - get some recruits that were previously unavailable and start playing some upper tier football and basketball. I can see a school like Houston (or rather Houston's boosters) taking advantage.
Edit - unless Texas law prohibits it. Understand Texas passed a name image likeness law that went into effect July 1. Don't know what that says but I know Tennessee's does not go into effect until January 1 2022. That is, there's nothing to prohibit this in Tennessee at this time.

If SMU boosters still care about football and basketball there's certainly a lot of money there.



I think all those guys are dead. What was the main guys name? Sherwood Blount ?

SMU has a 2 billion dollar endowment. Surely SMU has some rich boosters who care about football. I mean they are located in Texas:-)

Another thread where we talk about SMU and football boosters? What's the obsession?

They signed a 5 star recruit and they are the conference poster child for renegade, lawless boosters, who are now all of a sudden...legal.
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-07-2021 09:15 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 08:18 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:49 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:24 AM)Stammers Wrote:  And we are off to the races. Given that schools will pay football and basketball players, the initial bar has been set at $612,000. Miami also isn't saying specifically that they won't pay star players and recruits more than the $6,000. This also doesn't include players doing individual deals. This also doesn't include deep pocketed boosters coming out of the woodwork and throwing boatloads of money at players.

Miami will draw from its $30 million payout from its tv contract and the $18 million or so in donations they receive every year. We make $8 million per year on our tv contract and do around $9 million per year in donations. Anyone who thinks this whole NIL thing is good for us is 01-wingedeagle

The way that I understand NIL, the University itself isn't allowed to pay the players that money. It has to come from an outside source. That's why the MMA company paid the players, not the University of Miami. That $30 + $18 million still goes to the school, unless boosters redirect their $18 million.

You’re 100% correct. The NIL money is not coming from the schools. People keep getting this confused. Also, the new NIL law allows schools like Memphis to have sponsorship of players…aka players that are paid. We all know the big P5 schools were already doing this and not being punished. See Duke and Zion Williamson. While G5 schools get scalded for any little infraction. See Memphis and James Wiseman. Now, the NCAA is no longer allowed to enforce its double standard, as Schools like Memphis and their sponsors can do exactly what the P5 schools have been allowed to do all along.

You are confused. Joe Blow booster has $10,000 year to spend on some form of Memphis athletics. Previously, he would donate $10,000 to the school. Now he will donate $5,000 to the school and will sponsor/pay athletes $5,000. The net benefit to the school is now $5,000 and not $10,000.

Quote:Schools like Memphis and their sponsors can do exactly what the P5 schools have been allowed to do all along.

40 schools have in excess of $100 million in revenues; and have boosters with tens of millions more money, who have only been held back by NCAA regulations from going crazy. Now they can spend as much money as they want.

We are at $55 million and squeezing every single dollar out of our fanbase to reach that amount. It's simple math and common sense, so don't worry about it.

They were already paying them whatever they wanted.
Schools need to dial it back with the facilities arms race and coach salaries.
It's possible we could get hit harder, but I'm hoping ALL schools' budgets get dialed back.
It is the right thing to do. Coaches making $5M - Mark Emmert making $5M - while players are getting below min wage is wrong. I'm not the socialist of the board. I will always defend entrepreneurs making big bucks due to the risks they take. But coaches aren't taking no stinking risks.
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Local barbecue restaurants have signed deals with the offensive line of Notre Dame and the offensive line of Arkansas
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(07-07-2021 08:49 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Lol...

Anyone who didn't see this coming was paying attention.

Instead of buying players with no benefit...Now I get to buy players as a tax writeoff in my business. Win-Win for boosters. Lowers my taxable income much more than a donation to the school...Heck I think it would be a $ for $ tax benefit.

For the whales who will take advantage of this...They are essentially only donating 63 cents on the dollar.

60 cents, if Biden gets his way
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(07-07-2021 08:18 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
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(07-07-2021 07:24 AM)Stammers Wrote:  And we are off to the races. Given that schools will pay football and basketball players, the initial bar has been set at $612,000. Miami also isn't saying specifically that they won't pay star players and recruits more than the $6,000. This also doesn't include players doing individual deals. This also doesn't include deep pocketed boosters coming out of the woodwork and throwing boatloads of money at players.

Miami will draw from its $30 million payout from its tv contract and the $18 million or so in donations they receive every year. We make $8 million per year on our tv contract and do around $9 million per year in donations. Anyone who thinks this whole NIL thing is good for us is 01-wingedeagle

The way that I understand NIL, the University itself isn't allowed to pay the players that money. It has to come from an outside source. That's why the MMA company paid the players, not the University of Miami. That $30 + $18 million still goes to the school, unless boosters redirect their $18 million.

You’re 100% correct. The NIL money is not coming from the schools. People keep getting this confused. Also, the new NIL law allows schools like Memphis to have sponsorship of players…aka players that are paid. We all know the big P5 schools were already doing this and not being punished. See Duke and Zion Williamson. While G5 schools get scalded for any little infraction. See Memphis and James Wiseman. Now, the NCAA is no longer allowed to enforce its double standard, as Schools like Memphis and their sponsors can do exactly what the P5 schools have been allowed to do all along.

To be clear, now Zion's $400k would likely be legal - but James' mom's $11k would likely still be illegal in the NCAA's bizarro world where Penny was a booster paying benefits.
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-07-2021 09:15 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 08:18 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:49 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:24 AM)Stammers Wrote:  And we are off to the races. Given that schools will pay football and basketball players, the initial bar has been set at $612,000. Miami also isn't saying specifically that they won't pay star players and recruits more than the $6,000. This also doesn't include players doing individual deals. This also doesn't include deep pocketed boosters coming out of the woodwork and throwing boatloads of money at players.

Miami will draw from its $30 million payout from its tv contract and the $18 million or so in donations they receive every year. We make $8 million per year on our tv contract and do around $9 million per year in donations. Anyone who thinks this whole NIL thing is good for us is 01-wingedeagle

The way that I understand NIL, the University itself isn't allowed to pay the players that money. It has to come from an outside source. That's why the MMA company paid the players, not the University of Miami. That $30 + $18 million still goes to the school, unless boosters redirect their $18 million.

You’re 100% correct. The NIL money is not coming from the schools. People keep getting this confused. Also, the new NIL law allows schools like Memphis to have sponsorship of players…aka players that are paid. We all know the big P5 schools were already doing this and not being punished. See Duke and Zion Williamson. While G5 schools get scalded for any little infraction. See Memphis and James Wiseman. Now, the NCAA is no longer allowed to enforce its double standard, as Schools like Memphis and their sponsors can do exactly what the P5 schools have been allowed to do all along.

You are confused. Joe Blow booster has $10,000 year to spend on some form of Memphis athletics. Previously, he would donate $10,000 to the school. Now he will donate $5,000 to the school and will sponsor/pay athletes $5,000. The net benefit to the school is now $5,000 and not $10,000.

Quote:Schools like Memphis and their sponsors can do exactly what the P5 schools have been allowed to do all along.

40 schools have in excess of $100 million in revenues; and have boosters with tens of millions more money, who have only been held back by NCAA regulations from going crazy. Now they can spend as much money as they want.

We are at $55 million and squeezing every single dollar out of our fanbase to reach that amount. It's simple math and common sense, so don't worry about it.

But you said:
Stammer Wrote:Miami also isn't saying specifically that they won't pay star players and recruits more than the $6,000.
The University of Miami isn't paying its players. That money comes from outside. The companies/boosters may be withholding money that would have been a donation to the school, but that's not the same thing as the school directly paying them. If I decide to get gas at Exxon instead of BP, that doesn't mean that BP is paying Exxon for my gas.

Stammer Wrote:Miami will draw from its $30 million payout from its tv contract...
That $30 million TV contract goes to Miami, not the players. And we've already established that Miami is not directly paying the players.
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(07-07-2021 09:31 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 08:18 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:49 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:24 AM)Stammers Wrote:  And we are off to the races. Given that schools will pay football and basketball players, the initial bar has been set at $612,000. Miami also isn't saying specifically that they won't pay star players and recruits more than the $6,000. This also doesn't include players doing individual deals. This also doesn't include deep pocketed boosters coming out of the woodwork and throwing boatloads of money at players.

Miami will draw from its $30 million payout from its tv contract and the $18 million or so in donations they receive every year. We make $8 million per year on our tv contract and do around $9 million per year in donations. Anyone who thinks this whole NIL thing is good for us is 01-wingedeagle

The way that I understand NIL, the University itself isn't allowed to pay the players that money. It has to come from an outside source. That's why the MMA company paid the players, not the University of Miami. That $30 + $18 million still goes to the school, unless boosters redirect their $18 million.

You’re 100% correct. The NIL money is not coming from the schools. People keep getting this confused. Also, the new NIL law allows schools like Memphis to have sponsorship of players…aka players that are paid. We all know the big P5 schools were already doing this and not being punished. See Duke and Zion Williamson. While G5 schools get scalded for any little infraction. See Memphis and James Wiseman. Now, the NCAA is no longer allowed to enforce its double standard, as Schools like Memphis and their sponsors can do exactly what the P5 schools have been allowed to do all along.

To be clear, now Zion's $400k would likely be legal - but James' mom's $11k would likely still be illegal in the NCAA's bizarro world where Penny was a booster paying benefits.

Well... if UNC gives Zion $400k, it's against the rules.

If a UNC booster gives Zion $400k, it's against the rules.

If a UNC booster sets up a shell company that gives Zion $400k, then it's suddenly perfectly allowable.
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-07-2021 09:31 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 08:18 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:49 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:24 AM)Stammers Wrote:  And we are off to the races. Given that schools will pay football and basketball players, the initial bar has been set at $612,000. Miami also isn't saying specifically that they won't pay star players and recruits more than the $6,000. This also doesn't include players doing individual deals. This also doesn't include deep pocketed boosters coming out of the woodwork and throwing boatloads of money at players.

Miami will draw from its $30 million payout from its tv contract and the $18 million or so in donations they receive every year. We make $8 million per year on our tv contract and do around $9 million per year in donations. Anyone who thinks this whole NIL thing is good for us is 01-wingedeagle

The way that I understand NIL, the University itself isn't allowed to pay the players that money. It has to come from an outside source. That's why the MMA company paid the players, not the University of Miami. That $30 + $18 million still goes to the school, unless boosters redirect their $18 million.

You’re 100% correct. The NIL money is not coming from the schools. People keep getting this confused. Also, the new NIL law allows schools like Memphis to have sponsorship of players…aka players that are paid. We all know the big P5 schools were already doing this and not being punished. See Duke and Zion Williamson. While G5 schools get scalded for any little infraction. See Memphis and James Wiseman. Now, the NCAA is no longer allowed to enforce its double standard, as Schools like Memphis and their sponsors can do exactly what the P5 schools have been allowed to do all along.

To be clear, now Zion's $400k would likely be legal - but James' mom's $11k would likely still be illegal in the NCAA's bizarro world where Penny was a booster paying benefits.

As it stands boosters are only prohibited from signing players if it is against state law. Tennessee has no law in effect right now so it's not prohibited ... Unless the sschool decides it is. Lol
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And let's get the terminology right. Boosters would not be "giving" the money to players they would be signing players under NIL agreements. But bottomline it's the same money same effect.
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(07-07-2021 07:50 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:48 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:40 AM)cmt Wrote:  Didn't take a month. NCAA is as stupid as stupid can be.

Can’t blame the NCAA solely. The courts have and will be active.

Justice Kavanaugh awaits

Not true. If the NCAA had been minding their store instead of their bank account, it would never have reached any courts.
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(07-07-2021 09:38 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  And let's get the terminology right. Boosters would not be "giving" the money to players they would be signing players under NIL agreements. But bottomline it's the same money same effect.

Yup. It is simply a free for all...
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(07-07-2021 10:33 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 09:38 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  And let's get the terminology right. Boosters would not be "giving" the money to players they would be signing players under NIL agreements. But bottomline it's the same money same effect.

Yup. It is simply a free for all...

Booster wants to pay James Wiseman moving expenses. So he prints a case of unicorn t-shirts and pays James Wiseman $14,000 to come to Memphis and wear them. If the unicorn t-shirt business takes off that's gravy.
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(07-07-2021 10:38 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 10:33 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 09:38 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  And let's get the terminology right. Boosters would not be "giving" the money to players they would be signing players under NIL agreements. But bottomline it's the same money same effect.

Yup. It is simply a free for all...

Booster wants to pay James Wiseman moving expenses. So he prints a case of unicorn t-shirts and pays James Wiseman $14,000 to come to Memphis and wear them. If the unicorn t-shirt business takes off that's gravy.

It does not even have to be that much effort. The booster can just setup a shell company with "no relationship" to the University (meaning that specific ENTITY has never donated funds to the UofM) and pay Wiseman through it.
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(07-07-2021 09:35 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 09:31 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 08:18 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:49 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:24 AM)Stammers Wrote:  And we are off to the races. Given that schools will pay football and basketball players, the initial bar has been set at $612,000. Miami also isn't saying specifically that they won't pay star players and recruits more than the $6,000. This also doesn't include players doing individual deals. This also doesn't include deep pocketed boosters coming out of the woodwork and throwing boatloads of money at players.

Miami will draw from its $30 million payout from its tv contract and the $18 million or so in donations they receive every year. We make $8 million per year on our tv contract and do around $9 million per year in donations. Anyone who thinks this whole NIL thing is good for us is 01-wingedeagle

The way that I understand NIL, the University itself isn't allowed to pay the players that money. It has to come from an outside source. That's why the MMA company paid the players, not the University of Miami. That $30 + $18 million still goes to the school, unless boosters redirect their $18 million.

You’re 100% correct. The NIL money is not coming from the schools. People keep getting this confused. Also, the new NIL law allows schools like Memphis to have sponsorship of players…aka players that are paid. We all know the big P5 schools were already doing this and not being punished. See Duke and Zion Williamson. While G5 schools get scalded for any little infraction. See Memphis and James Wiseman. Now, the NCAA is no longer allowed to enforce its double standard, as Schools like Memphis and their sponsors can do exactly what the P5 schools have been allowed to do all along.

To be clear, now Zion's $400k would likely be legal - but James' mom's $11k would likely still be illegal in the NCAA's bizarro world where Penny was a booster paying benefits.

As it stands boosters are only prohibited from signing players if it is against state law. Tennessee has no law in effect right now so it's not prohibited ... Unless the sschool decides it is. Lol

Not exactly. The NCAA policy approved last week says:

"While opening name, image and likeness opportunities to student-athletes, the policy in all three divisions preserves the commitment to avoid pay-for-play and improper inducements tied to choosing to attend a particular school. Those rules remain in effect."

The NCAA policy directs schools to follow state law and conference guidance. One conference coalition including reps from all the P5, are debating the guidance. A group within the coalition (including the SEC, ACC, and PAC) have proposed this:

"(A) don't allow school employees or boosters to pay athletes, and (B) don't allow payments in exchange for athletic performance or recruiting inducement."
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(07-07-2021 09:34 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 09:31 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 08:18 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:49 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:24 AM)Stammers Wrote:  And we are off to the races. Given that schools will pay football and basketball players, the initial bar has been set at $612,000. Miami also isn't saying specifically that they won't pay star players and recruits more than the $6,000. This also doesn't include players doing individual deals. This also doesn't include deep pocketed boosters coming out of the woodwork and throwing boatloads of money at players.

Miami will draw from its $30 million payout from its tv contract and the $18 million or so in donations they receive every year. We make $8 million per year on our tv contract and do around $9 million per year in donations. Anyone who thinks this whole NIL thing is good for us is 01-wingedeagle

The way that I understand NIL, the University itself isn't allowed to pay the players that money. It has to come from an outside source. That's why the MMA company paid the players, not the University of Miami. That $30 + $18 million still goes to the school, unless boosters redirect their $18 million.

You’re 100% correct. The NIL money is not coming from the schools. People keep getting this confused. Also, the new NIL law allows schools like Memphis to have sponsorship of players…aka players that are paid. We all know the big P5 schools were already doing this and not being punished. See Duke and Zion Williamson. While G5 schools get scalded for any little infraction. See Memphis and James Wiseman. Now, the NCAA is no longer allowed to enforce its double standard, as Schools like Memphis and their sponsors can do exactly what the P5 schools have been allowed to do all along.

To be clear, now Zion's $400k would likely be legal - but James' mom's $11k would likely still be illegal in the NCAA's bizarro world where Penny was a booster paying benefits.

Well... if UNC gives Zion $400k, it's against the rules.

If a UNC booster gives Zion $400k, it's against the rules.

If a UNC booster sets up a shell company that gives Zion $400k, then it's suddenly perfectly allowable.

UNC ain't giving Zion anything - it was squeaky clean Dook.
But the difference was a marketing company paid Zion $400k (now legal), whereas Penny paid James $11k (illegal *).
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(07-07-2021 10:53 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 09:34 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 09:31 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 08:18 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:49 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  The way that I understand NIL, the University itself isn't allowed to pay the players that money. It has to come from an outside source. That's why the MMA company paid the players, not the University of Miami. That $30 + $18 million still goes to the school, unless boosters redirect their $18 million.

You’re 100% correct. The NIL money is not coming from the schools. People keep getting this confused. Also, the new NIL law allows schools like Memphis to have sponsorship of players…aka players that are paid. We all know the big P5 schools were already doing this and not being punished. See Duke and Zion Williamson. While G5 schools get scalded for any little infraction. See Memphis and James Wiseman. Now, the NCAA is no longer allowed to enforce its double standard, as Schools like Memphis and their sponsors can do exactly what the P5 schools have been allowed to do all along.

To be clear, now Zion's $400k would likely be legal - but James' mom's $11k would likely still be illegal in the NCAA's bizarro world where Penny was a booster paying benefits.

Well... if UNC gives Zion $400k, it's against the rules.

If a UNC booster gives Zion $400k, it's against the rules.

If a UNC booster sets up a shell company that gives Zion $400k, then it's suddenly perfectly allowable.

UNC ain't giving Zion anything - it was squeaky clean Dook.
But the difference was a marketing company paid Zion $400k (now legal), whereas Penny paid James $11k (illegal *).

Oops... hehe. I always put Duke and UNC in the same category in my head.
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(07-07-2021 10:48 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 09:35 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 09:31 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 08:18 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:49 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  The way that I understand NIL, the University itself isn't allowed to pay the players that money. It has to come from an outside source. That's why the MMA company paid the players, not the University of Miami. That $30 + $18 million still goes to the school, unless boosters redirect their $18 million.

You’re 100% correct. The NIL money is not coming from the schools. People keep getting this confused. Also, the new NIL law allows schools like Memphis to have sponsorship of players…aka players that are paid. We all know the big P5 schools were already doing this and not being punished. See Duke and Zion Williamson. While G5 schools get scalded for any little infraction. See Memphis and James Wiseman. Now, the NCAA is no longer allowed to enforce its double standard, as Schools like Memphis and their sponsors can do exactly what the P5 schools have been allowed to do all along.

To be clear, now Zion's $400k would likely be legal - but James' mom's $11k would likely still be illegal in the NCAA's bizarro world where Penny was a booster paying benefits.

As it stands boosters are only prohibited from signing players if it is against state law. Tennessee has no law in effect right now so it's not prohibited ... Unless the sschool decides it is. Lol

Not exactly. The NCAA policy approved last week says:

"While opening name, image and likeness opportunities to student-athletes, the policy in all three divisions preserves the commitment to avoid pay-for-play and improper inducements tied to choosing to attend a particular school. Those rules remain in effect."

The NCAA policy directs schools to follow state law and conference guidance. One conference coalition including reps from all the P5, are debating the guidance. A group within the coalition (including the SEC, ACC, and PAC) have proposed this:

"(A) don't allow school employees or boosters to pay athletes, and (B) don't allow payments in exchange for athletic performance or recruiting inducement."

Okay I can't wait to see how the NCAA interprets what's an improper inducement and what's simply in above the board contract for name image likeness. For example paying James Wiseman, the number one recruit, to wear your line of unicorn t-shirts? Paying Arkansas offensive lineman to represent your barbecue restaurant? There's going to be an avalanche of these cases all living in the gray area. Good luck
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-07-2021 07:40 AM)cmt Wrote:  Didn't take a month. NCAA is as stupid as stupid can be.

You're going to be complaining until it starts benefiting Memphis. SMU already has plucked a 5* from p5 OU. The NIL will benefit all urban schools.
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-07-2021 10:48 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
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(07-07-2021 07:49 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  The way that I understand NIL, the University itself isn't allowed to pay the players that money. It has to come from an outside source. That's why the MMA company paid the players, not the University of Miami. That $30 + $18 million still goes to the school, unless boosters redirect their $18 million.

You’re 100% correct. The NIL money is not coming from the schools. People keep getting this confused. Also, the new NIL law allows schools like Memphis to have sponsorship of players…aka players that are paid. We all know the big P5 schools were already doing this and not being punished. See Duke and Zion Williamson. While G5 schools get scalded for any little infraction. See Memphis and James Wiseman. Now, the NCAA is no longer allowed to enforce its double standard, as Schools like Memphis and their sponsors can do exactly what the P5 schools have been allowed to do all along.

To be clear, now Zion's $400k would likely be legal - but James' mom's $11k would likely still be illegal in the NCAA's bizarro world where Penny was a booster paying benefits.

As it stands boosters are only prohibited from signing players if it is against state law. Tennessee has no law in effect right now so it's not prohibited ... Unless the sschool decides it is. Lol

Not exactly. The NCAA policy approved last week says:

"While opening name, image and likeness opportunities to student-athletes, the policy in all three divisions preserves the commitment to avoid pay-for-play and improper inducements tied to choosing to attend a particular school. Those rules remain in effect."

The NCAA policy directs schools to follow state law and conference guidance. One conference coalition including reps from all the P5, are debating the guidance. A group within the coalition (including the SEC, ACC, and PAC) have proposed this:

"(A) don't allow school employees or boosters to pay athletes, and (B) don't allow payments in exchange for athletic performance or recruiting inducement."

Mmhmmm. And so setup a shell company and it is an entity that has never been a booster to the University and put it out there that it will sponsor or have a marketing relationship with or whatever of $15,000 for any player ranked inside the top 100 basketball players that signs with Memphis.

That is not pay for play... That is an "independent" entity simply offering an NIL for players ranked above a certain level because of course a player ranked 50 has a higher market value than one ranked 200, no?

There are 8 million ways to offer pay for play without explicitly offering pay for play. It is honestly silly for the NCAA to even keep that verbiage in there. Heck, the Miami booster already has openly worked around the rule to legally pay players to sign with the Miami football team. That took like all of 5 minutes for him to do it and do it legally.
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
If I understand this correctly, it is perfectly okay for this company to pay every player $6000, but still a violation if anyone from the school tells a recruit about it.

Isn't that right?
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