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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-10-2021 03:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  As for NIL, I have always believed the players should be allowed to earn money on the side. Will it be a mess with the NCAA and schools involved in any manner? Of course. Hopefully, the feds will eventually write one law, but don't count on that, either. They can't agree on what time to break for lunch.

Will NIL really change the college game? I don't think so. Stars have gotten paid under the table for decades. Now it's just more out in the open, and legal.

Agree 100%
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-09-2021 12:42 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 12:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 12:06 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 11:39 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:48 AM)Stammers Wrote:  Let's say our players are being paid $5,000 and a P5 school's players get paid $20,000. Before this, it had to be under the table, discreet and it wasn't legal. You could maybe do it every now and then but you couldn't do it across the board. Now it is legal. We can't make exceptions. We have to settle on an amount and pay everyone the same.

There is no way we can afford to pay the $20,000 and there is no way you can blame the player for leaving.

I don't understand what you are saying in the bold comment. (Granted, I have not read every back-and-forth post in this thread.)

NIL allows each player to structure their own deals. Everyone certainly will not get paid the same. What am I missing?
I think you are right. You aren't missing anything. The Miami deal is just a deal for all players, but that doesn't stop a QB from advertising cars on TV.

He is 100% right. All I'm saying is that the bar has been set at $6,000 for everyone; and that is one booster at one school. Remember the good old days when boosters would get in trouble for buying a meal or paying for a hotel room for players? Now they can legally throw giant parties for them. They can probably pay for vacations for them, lend or lease them sports cars, if not give them to them outright.

Cars. Man oh man. Car dealers can hand out leases like popcorn.

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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-09-2021 12:10 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-09-2021 11:39 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:48 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 08:54 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 01:23 AM)CRM114 Wrote:  You keep bringing up these 40 schools like there’s about to be some big change in the balance of power. Those schools get the players they really want already in football. Now they can just funnel more money to the 5 stars and do it above board. The big boys, through their boosters’ business or shell companies, will go crazy trying to outbid one another for the blue chippers. They aren’t going to throw the same kind of bucks at the hundreds of 3 star guys that would be warming their benches, nor could they sign them all. Those are the players we’ll be able to pick up, just like today.

As for basketball, you’re talking about a smaller number of players so a school of Memphis’s resources can come up with the deals to pull in a few big names, especially if our boosters care more about basketball than your average “Power 40” school, which they do. How do you think we’ve been able to outfight those schools for top recruits up to now?

While you are right...They can only sign so many.

This combined with the transfer rules makes it easier for them to retain players and attract new players from other schools who cannot pay as much.

So you get a unheralded 3* develop him through a redshirt year and he is successful as a freshman...Are we going to be willing to match the $s.

Let's say our players are being paid $5,000 and a P5 school's players get paid $20,000. Before this, it had to be under the table, discreet and it wasn't legal. You could maybe do it every now and then but you couldn't do it across the board. Now it is legal. We can't make exceptions. We have to settle on an amount and pay everyone the same.

There is no way we can afford to pay the $20,000 and there is no way you can blame the player for leaving.

I don't understand what you are saying in the bold comment. (Granted, I have not read every back-and-forth post in this thread.)

NIL allows each player to structure their own deals. Everyone certainly will not get paid the same. What am I missing?

I don't think it works if Wiseman makes $1 million, Precious makes $10,000 and the rest make $3,000 each. I don't think it works if the basketball team makes $10,000 each and the football team makes $3,000 each.

Players for sure will make more than others, but I think there has to be a base that everyone makes if there is going to be team unity. I don't think you can have half the basketball team driving Escallades and most of the football team isn't making anything. I think perception takes a major hit if our basketball team is making $10,000 each, and most of our football team is only making $2,000.

Ok, this is more clear.
But I think that horse left the barn 40 years ago.
QBs been driving Caddies for a while now.
I'm sure it leads to some internal strife that Assistant Coaches have been dealing with for their entire careers - but rarely any big issues.
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
So, a Texas A&M fan site is paying two football players $10,000 each for exclusive interviews.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...interviews

Quote:News organizations typically do not pay for interviews with players. Generally, access is arranged by each school's sports information department and players are often made available for a certain time period each week.

Remind me what was said on here about the "market rate"?
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Maybe the TIGERS can get back on the old FED-EX --so called work program
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-19-2021 12:27 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  So, a Texas A&M fan site is paying two football players $10,000 each for exclusive interviews.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...interviews

Quote:News organizations typically do not pay for interviews with players. Generally, access is arranged by each school's sports information department and players are often made available for a certain time period each week.

Remind me what was said on here about the "market rate"?

That sure as hell ain't it. 03-lmfao

I didn't say they would follow it. I said that was the guideline, lol.

But I also said there likely wasn't anybody to enforce it, and they would manage to screw it up.
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University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-19-2021 08:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(07-19-2021 12:27 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  So, a Texas A&M fan site is paying two football players $10,000 each for exclusive interviews.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...interviews

Quote:News organizations typically do not pay for interviews with players. Generally, access is arranged by each school's sports information department and players are often made available for a certain time period each week.

Remind me what was said on here about the "market rate"?

That sure as hell ain't it. 03-lmfao

I didn't say they would follow it. I said that was the guideline, lol.

But I also said there likely wasn't anybody to enforce it, and they would manage to screw it up.


They’re the first to do it, so they set the “market rate”. Unless some other company decides some other school’s players are worth more, which invalidates the “market rate” argument.
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Players are going to be cashing in 100 different ways. Market value and enforcement are moot points. When players weren't allowed accepting a meal from a booster they were driving fancy cars. The difference between $10,000 and $40,000 will be impossible to detect and impossible to enforce.
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-19-2021 08:11 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(07-19-2021 08:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(07-19-2021 12:27 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  So, a Texas A&M fan site is paying two football players $10,000 each for exclusive interviews.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...interviews

Quote:News organizations typically do not pay for interviews with players. Generally, access is arranged by each school's sports information department and players are often made available for a certain time period each week.

Remind me what was said on here about the "market rate"?

That sure as hell ain't it. 03-lmfao

I didn't say they would follow it. I said that was the guideline, lol.

But I also said there likely wasn't anybody to enforce it, and they would manage to screw it up.


They’re the first to do it, so they set the “market rate”. Unless some other company decides some other school’s players are worth more, which invalidates the “market rate” argument.

The market rate is.....whatever the market will bear. The NCAA's days are numbered.
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-19-2021 11:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(07-19-2021 08:11 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(07-19-2021 08:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(07-19-2021 12:27 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  So, a Texas A&M fan site is paying two football players $10,000 each for exclusive interviews.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...interviews

Quote:News organizations typically do not pay for interviews with players. Generally, access is arranged by each school's sports information department and players are often made available for a certain time period each week.

Remind me what was said on here about the "market rate"?

That sure as hell ain't it. 03-lmfao

I didn't say they would follow it. I said that was the guideline, lol.

But I also said there likely wasn't anybody to enforce it, and they would manage to screw it up.


They’re the first to do it, so they set the “market rate”. Unless some other company decides some other school’s players are worth more, which invalidates the “market rate” argument.

The market rate is.....whatever the market will bear. The NCAA's days are numbered.

...It's Death by a thousand cuts. Sad to say it deserves every one of them.
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(07-20-2021 12:48 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(07-19-2021 11:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(07-19-2021 08:11 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(07-19-2021 08:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(07-19-2021 12:27 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  So, a Texas A&M fan site is paying two football players $10,000 each for exclusive interviews.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...interviews


Remind me what was said on here about the "market rate"?

That sure as hell ain't it. 03-lmfao

I didn't say they would follow it. I said that was the guideline, lol.

But I also said there likely wasn't anybody to enforce it, and they would manage to screw it up.


They’re the first to do it, so they set the “market rate”. Unless some other company decides some other school’s players are worth more, which invalidates the “market rate” argument.

The market rate is.....whatever the market will bear. The NCAA's days are numbered.

...It's Death by a thousand cuts. Sad to say it deserves every one of them.


Po kids just need to get paid 03-lmfao

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Nick Saban is talking at the Texas HS Coaches Association convention today. He was asked about NIL. Apparently, Bryce Young is doing quite well. “Our QB has already approached ungodly numbers, and he hasn’t even played yet. If I told you what it is … it’s almost 7-figures."
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