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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-08-2021 10:14 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:07 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Lol, he said allowing more money to flow into our programs is bad for us.

No. He's saying allowing more money to flow into the top programs will be bad for us. He's right about that part.

More money flowing into the NCAA means more money flowing into us. We finally get to play the same game that the top programs have been playing all these years.
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-08-2021 09:27 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 09:09 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 09:15 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 08:18 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 07:49 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  The way that I understand NIL, the University itself isn't allowed to pay the players that money. It has to come from an outside source. That's why the MMA company paid the players, not the University of Miami. That $30 + $18 million still goes to the school, unless boosters redirect their $18 million.

You’re 100% correct. The NIL money is not coming from the schools. People keep getting this confused. Also, the new NIL law allows schools like Memphis to have sponsorship of players…aka players that are paid. We all know the big P5 schools were already doing this and not being punished. See Duke and Zion Williamson. While G5 schools get scalded for any little infraction. See Memphis and James Wiseman. Now, the NCAA is no longer allowed to enforce its double standard, as Schools like Memphis and their sponsors can do exactly what the P5 schools have been allowed to do all along.

You are confused. Joe Blow booster has $10,000 year to spend on some form of Memphis athletics. Previously, he would donate $10,000 to the school. Now he will donate $5,000 to the school and will sponsor/pay athletes $5,000. The net benefit to the school is now $5,000 and not $10,000.

Quote:Schools like Memphis and their sponsors can do exactly what the P5 schools have been allowed to do all along.

40 schools have in excess of $100 million in revenues; and have boosters with tens of millions more money, who have only been held back by NCAA regulations from going crazy. Now they can spend as much money as they want.

We are at $55 million and squeezing every single dollar out of our fanbase to reach that amount. It's simple math and common sense, so don't worry about it.

I get 100% the point that you are making. I don’t think you are understanding the fact that this is the only opportunity Memphis has ever had to offer recruits something extra and not get punished for it. As it was, before the NIL, we were being left in the dust financially. No matter how much money our school raised it mattered not. The Dukes and Kentucky’s of the world would continue to get by with cheating and paying players while Memphis continued to get hammered anytime they had success that made the big dogs unhappy.

No $hit Sherlock captain obvious. Of course the P5 will still have more money. But at least we have a chance to play the money game now.

You think you say things and make points that are so genius. Most of the time I read what you have to say and think “captain obvious.” You disagree just to disagree. You build straw men arguments and tear them down with insults. You insult fellow Tiger fans, and great Tiger fans at that. You turn every thread you post in to a cesspool of insults and you are the most toxic person I have seen post on this board. Ever.

I mostly ignore you. And will continue to. Yet you still reply to my every post with your obsession.

Be careful, you may he banned again, Stammy. & I have a feeling the next time you get banned it’ll be for good. At least for this one of many profiles that you have. Loser.

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You always cry like a little baby, but there is no comparison to how we address people. Just part of the complete lack of self awareness your Tubby loving self has.

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Quote:the Wiseman thread is typical of your ignorance and idiocy, which I pointed out, instead of talking content, because I don't know.

You really need to reign in your anger Mensa's.
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
Sorry to hurt your idiot feelings so often. But, sometimes an idiot needs to be reminded that he's an idiot. Idiot.
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(07-08-2021 10:25 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Sorry to hurt your idiot feelings so often. But, sometimes an idiot needs to be reminded that he's an idiot. Idiot.

I get into it with a half dozen or so slow posters like yourself, but I also make a lot of posts backed up by data, logic and have civil interaction with most posters. Aside from Tubby loving, Penny hating, and following me around crying like a baby, what exactly do YOU contribute? Your complete disregard for the AUP is astonishing. A fly has a better chance at hurting my feelings. I'm laughing at you Mensa's, in case you (obviously) hadn't noticed.
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(07-08-2021 10:26 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:25 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Sorry to hurt your idiot feelings so often. But, sometimes an idiot needs to be reminded that he's an idiot. Idiot.

I get into it with a half dozen or so slow posters like yourself, but I also make a lot of posts backed up by data, logic and have civil interaction with most posters. Aside from Tubby loving, Penny hating, and following me around crying like a baby, what exactly do YOU contribute? Your complete disregard for the AUP is astonishing. A fly has a better chance at hurting my feelings. I'm laughing at you Mensa's, in case you (obviously) hadn't noticed.

You get into it with a half dozen posters?

LMFAO!!!!!
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(07-08-2021 10:35 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:26 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:25 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Sorry to hurt your idiot feelings so often. But, sometimes an idiot needs to be reminded that he's an idiot. Idiot.

I get into it with a half dozen or so slow posters like yourself, but I also make a lot of posts backed up by data, logic and have civil interaction with most posters. Aside from Tubby loving, Penny hating, and following me around crying like a baby, what exactly do YOU contribute? Your complete disregard for the AUP is astonishing. A fly has a better chance at hurting my feelings. I'm laughing at you Mensa's, in case you (obviously) hadn't noticed.

You get into it with a half dozen posters?

LMFAO!!!!!

Newsflash. Nobody gives a crap about anyone that I disagree with, especially with Tubby loving, Penny hating crybabies like you.

Again, let's look at the content of more than 90% of your posts.

- An obsessive hatred of Penny
- An obsessive love of Tubby
- Following me around like a crybaby with most posts a blatant violation of the AUP

What do YOU contribute here? Nothing.
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-08-2021 10:44 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:35 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:26 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:25 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Sorry to hurt your idiot feelings so often. But, sometimes an idiot needs to be reminded that he's an idiot. Idiot.

I get into it with a half dozen or so slow posters like yourself, but I also make a lot of posts backed up by data, logic and have civil interaction with most posters. Aside from Tubby loving, Penny hating, and following me around crying like a baby, what exactly do YOU contribute? Your complete disregard for the AUP is astonishing. A fly has a better chance at hurting my feelings. I'm laughing at you Mensa's, in case you (obviously) hadn't noticed.

You get into it with a half dozen posters?

LMFAO!!!!!

Newsflash. Nobody gives a crap about anyone that I disagree with, especially with Tubby loving, Penny hating crybabies like you.

Again, let's look at the content of more than 90% of your posts.

- An obsessive hatred of Penny
- An obsessive love of Tubby
- Following me around like a crybaby with most posts a blatant violation of the AUP

What do YOU contribute here? Nothing.

At least I'm not a self-absorbed jacka$$.
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
(07-08-2021 08:54 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 01:23 AM)CRM114 Wrote:  
(07-07-2021 04:55 PM)Stammers Wrote:  That will work perfectly fine. If the products are good, great; if not, nobody will care. 40 schools generate over $100 million of revenue; which is roughly twice the revenue that we generate. Miami is paying $6,000. For $5 million per year, the heavy hitters can arrange to have every scholarship football and basketball player paid $50,000 per year.

You keep bringing up these 40 schools like there’s about to be some big change in the balance of power. Those schools get the players they really want already in football. Now they can just funnel more money to the 5 stars and do it above board. The big boys, through their boosters’ business or shell companies, will go crazy trying to outbid one another for the blue chippers. They aren’t going to throw the same kind of bucks at the hundreds of 3 star guys that would be warming their benches, nor could they sign them all. Those are the players we’ll be able to pick up, just like today.

As for basketball, you’re talking about a smaller number of players so a school of Memphis’s resources can come up with the deals to pull in a few big names, especially if our boosters care more about basketball than your average “Power 40” school, which they do. How do you think we’ve been able to outfight those schools for top recruits up to now?

While you are right...They can only sign so many.

This combined with the transfer rules makes it easier for them to retain players and attract new players from other schools who cannot pay as much.

So you get a unheralded 3* develop him through a redshirt year and he is successful as a freshman...Are we going to be willing to match the $s.

Let's say our players are being paid $5,000 and a P5 school's players get paid $20,000. Before this, it had to be under the table, discreet and it wasn't legal. You could maybe do it every now and then but you couldn't do it across the board. Now it is legal. We can't make exceptions. We have to settle on an amount and pay everyone the same.

There is no way we can afford to pay the $20,000 and there is no way you can blame the player for leaving.
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(07-08-2021 10:48 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:44 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:35 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:26 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:25 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Sorry to hurt your idiot feelings so often. But, sometimes an idiot needs to be reminded that he's an idiot. Idiot.

I get into it with a half dozen or so slow posters like yourself, but I also make a lot of posts backed up by data, logic and have civil interaction with most posters. Aside from Tubby loving, Penny hating, and following me around crying like a baby, what exactly do YOU contribute? Your complete disregard for the AUP is astonishing. A fly has a better chance at hurting my feelings. I'm laughing at you Mensa's, in case you (obviously) hadn't noticed.

You get into it with a half dozen posters?

LMFAO!!!!!

Newsflash. Nobody gives a crap about anyone that I disagree with, especially with Tubby loving, Penny hating crybabies like you.

Again, let's look at the content of more than 90% of your posts.

- An obsessive hatred of Penny
- An obsessive love of Tubby
- Following me around like a crybaby with most posts a blatant violation of the AUP

What do YOU contribute here? Nothing.

At least I'm not a self-absorbed jacka$$.

You are though, but at least you admit that you don't add anything of value to the board. That's progress in my book. Congrats Mensa's. Also, note that while we are having this discussion, I continue (as usual) to make relevant posts in a civil manner with others. All you do is whine about Penny and me.
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They need to get rid of the one-time exemption for transfers and make players sit out a year again... or people will just transfer to the highest bidder.
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(07-08-2021 10:49 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:48 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:44 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:35 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:26 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I get into it with a half dozen or so slow posters like yourself, but I also make a lot of posts backed up by data, logic and have civil interaction with most posters. Aside from Tubby loving, Penny hating, and following me around crying like a baby, what exactly do YOU contribute? Your complete disregard for the AUP is astonishing. A fly has a better chance at hurting my feelings. I'm laughing at you Mensa's, in case you (obviously) hadn't noticed.

You get into it with a half dozen posters?

LMFAO!!!!!

Newsflash. Nobody gives a crap about anyone that I disagree with, especially with Tubby loving, Penny hating crybabies like you.

Again, let's look at the content of more than 90% of your posts.

- An obsessive hatred of Penny
- An obsessive love of Tubby
- Following me around like a crybaby with most posts a blatant violation of the AUP

What do YOU contribute here? Nothing.

At least I'm not a self-absorbed jacka$$.

You are though, but at least you admit that you don't add anything of value to the board. That's progress in my book. Congrats Mensa's. Also, note that while we are having this discussion, I continue (as usual) to make relevant posts in a civil manner with others. All you do is whine about Penny and me.

And for the icing on the cake, you continue to pat yourself on the back.

Keep replying to me and proving my point. 03-lmfao
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(07-08-2021 10:53 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  They need to get rid of the one-time exemption for transfers and make players sit out a year again... or people will just transfer to the highest bidder.

Great post and probably what will happen. When the players couldn't benefit there really wasn't a good argument to restrict and penalize movement. Now that they can, it makes perfect sense to allow schools to have the opportunity to get a semblance of ROI.
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(07-08-2021 10:55 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:49 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:48 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:44 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:35 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  You get into it with a half dozen posters?

LMFAO!!!!!

Newsflash. Nobody gives a crap about anyone that I disagree with, especially with Tubby loving, Penny hating crybabies like you.

Again, let's look at the content of more than 90% of your posts.

- An obsessive hatred of Penny
- An obsessive love of Tubby
- Following me around like a crybaby with most posts a blatant violation of the AUP

What do YOU contribute here? Nothing.

At least I'm not a self-absorbed jacka$$.

You are though, but at least you admit that you don't add anything of value to the board. That's progress in my book. Congrats Mensa's. Also, note that while we are having this discussion, I continue (as usual) to make relevant posts in a civil manner with others. All you do is whine about Penny and me.

And for the icing on the cake, you continue to pat yourself on the back.

Keep replying to me and proving my point. 03-lmfao

What point is that? You aren't even attempting to get involved in the thread topic, you are here solely because of your infatuation with me. You initiated this.

As long as we are keeping score...

Me:
- 11 posts in this thread before you got involved.
- ALL with the exception to responding to your nonsense, using data, facts and logic in the discussion
- ALL with the exception of responses to you and BIGDTiger, flame free
- Still nonetheless trying to reason with BIGDTiger with facts and logic (which are foreign to him)

Mensa's:
- ZERO posts about the thread or the topic
- 100% of your posts crying like a little baby about me
- Your posts are a direct violation of the AUP. Most of them are when you respond to me

I am the problem? I should be banned? 03-lmfao01-wingedeagle
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(07-08-2021 11:04 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:55 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:49 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:48 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:44 AM)Stammers Wrote:  Newsflash. Nobody gives a crap about anyone that I disagree with, especially with Tubby loving, Penny hating crybabies like you.

Again, let's look at the content of more than 90% of your posts.

- An obsessive hatred of Penny
- An obsessive love of Tubby
- Following me around like a crybaby with most posts a blatant violation of the AUP

What do YOU contribute here? Nothing.

At least I'm not a self-absorbed jacka$$.

You are though, but at least you admit that you don't add anything of value to the board. That's progress in my book. Congrats Mensa's. Also, note that while we are having this discussion, I continue (as usual) to make relevant posts in a civil manner with others. All you do is whine about Penny and me.

And for the icing on the cake, you continue to pat yourself on the back.

Keep replying to me and proving my point. 03-lmfao

What point is that? You aren't even attempting to get involved in the thread topic, you are here solely because of your infatuation with me. You initiated this.

As long as we are keeping score...

Me:
- 11 posts in this thread before you got involved.
- ALL with the exception to responding to your nonsense, using data, facts and logic in the discussion
- ALL with the exception of responses to you and BIGDTiger, flame free
- Still nonetheless trying to reason with BIGDTiger with facts and logic (which are foreign to him)

Mensa's:
- ZERO posts about the thread or the topic
- 100% of your posts crying like a little baby about me
- Your posts are a direct violation of the AUP. Most of them are when you respond to me

I am the problem? I should be banned? 03-lmfao01-wingedeagle

You're the only one keeping score. And, keeping my posts. And, crying about the AUP.

Must be a severe case of little man syndrome going on in Montreal.
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(07-08-2021 11:10 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 11:04 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:55 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:49 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:48 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  At least I'm not a self-absorbed jacka$$.

You are though, but at least you admit that you don't add anything of value to the board. That's progress in my book. Congrats Mensa's. Also, note that while we are having this discussion, I continue (as usual) to make relevant posts in a civil manner with others. All you do is whine about Penny and me.

And for the icing on the cake, you continue to pat yourself on the back.

Keep replying to me and proving my point. 03-lmfao

What point is that? You aren't even attempting to get involved in the thread topic, you are here solely because of your infatuation with me. You initiated this.

As long as we are keeping score...

Me:
- 11 posts in this thread before you got involved.
- ALL with the exception to responding to your nonsense, using data, facts and logic in the discussion
- ALL with the exception of responses to you and BIGDTiger, flame free
- Still nonetheless trying to reason with BIGDTiger with facts and logic (which are foreign to him)

Mensa's:
- ZERO posts about the thread or the topic
- 100% of your posts crying like a little baby about me
- Your posts are a direct violation of the AUP. Most of them are when you respond to me

I am the problem? I should be banned? 03-lmfao01-wingedeagle

You're the only one keeping score. And, keeping my posts. And, crying about the AUP.

Must be a severe case of little man syndrome going on in Montreal.

You have made 6 posts in this thread. How many of them are about Miami paying athletes $6,000 and how that possibly relates to us?
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(07-08-2021 11:16 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 11:10 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 11:04 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:55 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(07-08-2021 10:49 AM)Stammers Wrote:  You are though, but at least you admit that you don't add anything of value to the board. That's progress in my book. Congrats Mensa's. Also, note that while we are having this discussion, I continue (as usual) to make relevant posts in a civil manner with others. All you do is whine about Penny and me.

And for the icing on the cake, you continue to pat yourself on the back.

Keep replying to me and proving my point. 03-lmfao

What point is that? You aren't even attempting to get involved in the thread topic, you are here solely because of your infatuation with me. You initiated this.

As long as we are keeping score...

Me:
- 11 posts in this thread before you got involved.
- ALL with the exception to responding to your nonsense, using data, facts and logic in the discussion
- ALL with the exception of responses to you and BIGDTiger, flame free
- Still nonetheless trying to reason with BIGDTiger with facts and logic (which are foreign to him)

Mensa's:
- ZERO posts about the thread or the topic
- 100% of your posts crying like a little baby about me
- Your posts are a direct violation of the AUP. Most of them are when you respond to me

I am the problem? I should be banned? 03-lmfao01-wingedeagle

You're the only one keeping score. And, keeping my posts. And, crying about the AUP.

Must be a severe case of little man syndrome going on in Montreal.

You have made 6 posts in this thread. How many of them are about Miami paying athletes $6,000 and how that possibly relates to us?

Ah, so it is little man sydrome. Makes sense.
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(07-08-2021 10:25 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Sorry to hurt your idiot feelings so often. But, sometimes an idiot needs to be reminded that he's an idiot. Idiot.

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the refs about to get some more $$$ (than they already were) by boosters .... "call the game, my way"
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
It’s been proven you can get to the pros through Memphis. Now they’ll have to prove you can make as much money.

May have been posted elsewhere. Link if you have access.
Couple of takeaways:

—“…who, exactly, is being harmed?

Certainly not SEC universities, which stand to benefit in multiple ways:

For one, this new landscape should help in recruiting. Not only do SEC schools offer an opportunity to compete on the big stage, they provide massive platform.

If I'm an SEC coach, I'm reminding recruits and their parents that this conference offers avenues for publicity and exposure that its peers cannot match.”

—“And it’s not just the SEC’s football and basketball players who enjoy a potentially lucrative platform. Thanks in part to the SEC Network and ESPN, athletes in sports like softball, gymnastics, volleyball and baseball have ample opportunity to get their name out to potential sponsors.

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/s...842948002/

We’re doomed.
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RE: University of Miami NIL deal pays $6000 to all 90 players
You know you won the argument when the other side resorts to name calling.
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