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RE: Athlon predicts Tiger football to finish 7th
(06-04-2021 01:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-03-2021 03:19 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 08:44 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 08:22 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(05-31-2021 11:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  White was exponentially great with a great offensive line, and exponentially not great with a not great offensive line. The new quarterback will almost for sure not be as accurate, but all 3 are much better runners and will also be able to buy more time in the pocket.

I suppose we’ll see. We won 8 games last year with no running game… riding the back of a senior QB who could check us into the right offense and complete passes even when defenses dropped 8 & managed to pressure the QB. Our oline was dreadful… so it’s asking a lot of the new group and a new QB to maintain. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m just trying to be realistic & 6-6 seems fair.

We won with a bad offensive line, a quarterback with zero mobility, lost 3,800 of receiving yardage, and lost a lot of great players. We went 8-3 during what turned out to be a rebuilding year.

Nicholls
Arkansas State 4-7
MSU 4-7
UTSA
Temple 1-6
Tulsa 7-3
Navy 3-7
UCF 6-4
SMU 7-3 H
ECU 3-6
Houston 3-5
Tulane 6-6

Why would we be an underdog to anyone except possibly UCF and Tulsa? What have the other teams done to warrant thinking that half of them will beat us?
I'll answer for the A-State game.

When anywhere close to healthy last year, they were a good team as evidenced by games with Memphis, K-State, and Louisiana, about the only games they were not devastated by COVID-you do remember that COVID thing don't you? It kicked their butt, especially in the trenches after their game with you.

They return the majority of that team, helped their underachieving HC fined another home, and hired a better one.

They were going to be a better team this year without any additions, and more than a handful for the Tigers at their place anyway, but old Butch did not stand pat and added 50+ newbies this week, and included were the following:

Thurman Geathers -DE (Louisville)
Te'Vailance Hunt-WR (TCU)
James Blackman-QB (FSU)
AJ Acock- QB (LSU)
Allen Walters- QB (Miss St)
Akeem Hayes- WR (Kentucky)
Jack Combs- WR (Iowa)
Johnnie Lang- RB (Iowa State)
Nick Lewis- OL (Kentucky)
John Mincey- DL (Tenn)
Kivon Bennett- DL (Tenn)
Tim Hardiman- DL (Navy)
Charles Willekes- DL (Mich St)
Quay Mays- DL (West Virginia)
Scooby Carter- CB (Alabama)
Khyheem Waleed-WR (Boise)

The COVID virus ended their 9 years of winning records and bowl games, but it was going to start again this year without these additions. If you get out of Jonesboro with a win it will shock me.

Weren't y'all supposed to dominate us up front last year going against one of the best DLine we faced all year.

And that best offense in the G5 was going to give us trouble.

As a reminder...Neither of those things happened.

We ran more yards against ASU than any other D1 team we played last year.

The game wasn't really close.
And that with no spring ball and like 8 practices before the game. Good on Ark. St. as they managed a spring and fall 2020! Hope they are much improved this year. Good on 'em! But, color me unimpressed with SI's talent projections based on the way he raved last year (against what was a bad Memphis line).
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RE: Athlon predicts Tiger football to finish 7th
(06-04-2021 01:51 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 01:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-03-2021 03:19 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 08:44 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 08:22 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I suppose we’ll see. We won 8 games last year with no running game… riding the back of a senior QB who could check us into the right offense and complete passes even when defenses dropped 8 & managed to pressure the QB. Our oline was dreadful… so it’s asking a lot of the new group and a new QB to maintain. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m just trying to be realistic & 6-6 seems fair.

We won with a bad offensive line, a quarterback with zero mobility, lost 3,800 of receiving yardage, and lost a lot of great players. We went 8-3 during what turned out to be a rebuilding year.

Nicholls
Arkansas State 4-7
MSU 4-7
UTSA
Temple 1-6
Tulsa 7-3
Navy 3-7
UCF 6-4
SMU 7-3 H
ECU 3-6
Houston 3-5
Tulane 6-6

Why would we be an underdog to anyone except possibly UCF and Tulsa? What have the other teams done to warrant thinking that half of them will beat us?
I'll answer for the A-State game.

When anywhere close to healthy last year, they were a good team as evidenced by games with Memphis, K-State, and Louisiana, about the only games they were not devastated by COVID-you do remember that COVID thing don't you? It kicked their butt, especially in the trenches after their game with you.

They return the majority of that team, helped their underachieving HC fined another home, and hired a better one.

They were going to be a better team this year without any additions, and more than a handful for the Tigers at their place anyway, but old Butch did not stand pat and added 50+ newbies this week, and included were the following:

Thurman Geathers -DE (Louisville)
Te'Vailance Hunt-WR (TCU)
James Blackman-QB (FSU)
AJ Acock- QB (LSU)
Allen Walters- QB (Miss St)
Akeem Hayes- WR (Kentucky)
Jack Combs- WR (Iowa)
Johnnie Lang- RB (Iowa State)
Nick Lewis- OL (Kentucky)
John Mincey- DL (Tenn)
Kivon Bennett- DL (Tenn)
Tim Hardiman- DL (Navy)
Charles Willekes- DL (Mich St)
Quay Mays- DL (West Virginia)
Scooby Carter- CB (Alabama)
Khyheem Waleed-WR (Boise)

The COVID virus ended their 9 years of winning records and bowl games, but it was going to start again this year without these additions. If you get out of Jonesboro with a win it will shock me.

Weren't y'all supposed to dominate us up front last year going against one of the best DLine we faced all year.

And that best offense in the G5 was going to give us trouble.

As a reminder...Neither of those things happened.

We ran more yards against ASU than any other D1 team we played last year.

The game wasn't really close.
And that with no spring ball and like 8 practices before the game. Good on Ark. St. as they managed a spring and fall 2020! Hope they are much improved this year. Good on 'em! But, color me unimpressed with SI's talent projections based on the way he raved last year (against what was a bad Memphis line).

dont sleep on nicholls

https://geauxcolonels.com/sports/footbal...-cage/4675
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RE: Athlon predicts Tiger football to finish 7th
(06-04-2021 02:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 01:51 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 01:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-03-2021 03:19 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 08:44 AM)Stammers Wrote:  We won with a bad offensive line, a quarterback with zero mobility, lost 3,800 of receiving yardage, and lost a lot of great players. We went 8-3 during what turned out to be a rebuilding year.

Nicholls
Arkansas State 4-7
MSU 4-7
UTSA
Temple 1-6
Tulsa 7-3
Navy 3-7
UCF 6-4
SMU 7-3 H
ECU 3-6
Houston 3-5
Tulane 6-6

Why would we be an underdog to anyone except possibly UCF and Tulsa? What have the other teams done to warrant thinking that half of them will beat us?
I'll answer for the A-State game.

When anywhere close to healthy last year, they were a good team as evidenced by games with Memphis, K-State, and Louisiana, about the only games they were not devastated by COVID-you do remember that COVID thing don't you? It kicked their butt, especially in the trenches after their game with you.

They return the majority of that team, helped their underachieving HC fined another home, and hired a better one.

They were going to be a better team this year without any additions, and more than a handful for the Tigers at their place anyway, but old Butch did not stand pat and added 50+ newbies this week, and included were the following:

Thurman Geathers -DE (Louisville)
Te'Vailance Hunt-WR (TCU)
James Blackman-QB (FSU)
AJ Acock- QB (LSU)
Allen Walters- QB (Miss St)
Akeem Hayes- WR (Kentucky)
Jack Combs- WR (Iowa)
Johnnie Lang- RB (Iowa State)
Nick Lewis- OL (Kentucky)
John Mincey- DL (Tenn)
Kivon Bennett- DL (Tenn)
Tim Hardiman- DL (Navy)
Charles Willekes- DL (Mich St)
Quay Mays- DL (West Virginia)
Scooby Carter- CB (Alabama)
Khyheem Waleed-WR (Boise)

The COVID virus ended their 9 years of winning records and bowl games, but it was going to start again this year without these additions. If you get out of Jonesboro with a win it will shock me.

Weren't y'all supposed to dominate us up front last year going against one of the best DLine we faced all year.

And that best offense in the G5 was going to give us trouble.

As a reminder...Neither of those things happened.

We ran more yards against ASU than any other D1 team we played last year.

The game wasn't really close.
And that with no spring ball and like 8 practices before the game. Good on Ark. St. as they managed a spring and fall 2020! Hope they are much improved this year. Good on 'em! But, color me unimpressed with SI's talent projections based on the way he raved last year (against what was a bad Memphis line).

dont sleep on nicholls

https://geauxcolonels.com/sports/footbal...-cage/4675
Good thing LSU isn't on the schedule.
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RE: Athlon predicts Tiger football to finish 7th
(06-04-2021 02:52 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 02:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 01:51 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 01:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-03-2021 03:19 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I'll answer for the A-State game.

When anywhere close to healthy last year, they were a good team as evidenced by games with Memphis, K-State, and Louisiana, about the only games they were not devastated by COVID-you do remember that COVID thing don't you? It kicked their butt, especially in the trenches after their game with you.

They return the majority of that team, helped their underachieving HC fined another home, and hired a better one.

They were going to be a better team this year without any additions, and more than a handful for the Tigers at their place anyway, but old Butch did not stand pat and added 50+ newbies this week, and included were the following:

Thurman Geathers -DE (Louisville)
Te'Vailance Hunt-WR (TCU)
James Blackman-QB (FSU)
AJ Acock- QB (LSU)
Allen Walters- QB (Miss St)
Akeem Hayes- WR (Kentucky)
Jack Combs- WR (Iowa)
Johnnie Lang- RB (Iowa State)
Nick Lewis- OL (Kentucky)
John Mincey- DL (Tenn)
Kivon Bennett- DL (Tenn)
Tim Hardiman- DL (Navy)
Charles Willekes- DL (Mich St)
Quay Mays- DL (West Virginia)
Scooby Carter- CB (Alabama)
Khyheem Waleed-WR (Boise)

The COVID virus ended their 9 years of winning records and bowl games, but it was going to start again this year without these additions. If you get out of Jonesboro with a win it will shock me.

Weren't y'all supposed to dominate us up front last year going against one of the best DLine we faced all year.

And that best offense in the G5 was going to give us trouble.

As a reminder...Neither of those things happened.

We ran more yards against ASU than any other D1 team we played last year.

The game wasn't really close.
And that with no spring ball and like 8 practices before the game. Good on Ark. St. as they managed a spring and fall 2020! Hope they are much improved this year. Good on 'em! But, color me unimpressed with SI's talent projections based on the way he raved last year (against what was a bad Memphis line).

dont sleep on nicholls

https://geauxcolonels.com/sports/footbal...-cage/4675
Good thing LSU isn't on the schedule.

You wonder why these kids pick certain schools over the obvious. This guy was born to be a Razorback.
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RE: Athlon predicts Tiger football to finish 7th
(06-03-2021 11:00 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-03-2021 04:30 PM)Alanda Wrote:  
(06-03-2021 12:52 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-03-2021 03:25 AM)Alanda Wrote:  
(06-02-2021 06:50 PM)MvETigers Wrote:  2. Offense - While we had the same OC, anybody that knows the program knows that Norvell called 99% of the plays and it was 100% his offense. Once again, even with Brady White, we installed a new offense in EIGHT practices. That new offense was centered around Gainwell and Coxie, who played in a combined total of TWO games. While we returned starters on the OL, it was a new blocking scheme with new assignments all installed... well, you get the point.

Reminds me of this thread and what some of us were saying there. I didn't like what I was seeing from the Penn St. game on, but I'm willing to be more forgiving with this added perspective.

We scored more points and gained more yards on Penn State than anyone else had; including Ohio State and all of the Big Ten. An interception at the goal line prevented us from scoring 46 points. Our defense getting lit up prevented us from scoring even more.

Orona-Lopez got destroyed after replacing Dill and Magnifico out also hurt us big time. Right now, IMO, it is all about not having the same players. Gibson, Coxie, Gainwell, Jones, and no practice time for the kids.

Last but not least, a little perspective is in order...

NCAA TOTAL OFFENSE
2020 - 22
2019 - 10
2018 - 4
2017 - 4
2016 - 28
2015 - 19
2014 - 49
2013 - 118

Look at that 2014 team. Hayes was our leading rusher with 949 yards, and we had one run from scrimmage longer than 40 yards all season. Our leading receiver was Malone with 555 yards, and we had one reception over 50 yards the entire season. That was a good offense that was #49 in the country. Last year we were #22 in total offense.

You can't compare last year and this year with the 3 years before it, the same way you can't compare any basketball team with 2008. You have to appreciate that the 3 years for the offense in football and 2008 in basketball, were so special, that it might not be reasonable to expect that type of excellence more than once in a blue moon.

You hope you can come close to duplicating it, and you hope that the defense can pick up the slack. It should be much easier for the defense to make big improvements (which it did the last half of last year) than it is to expect to have a top 5 offense every year.

So maybe we were lucky to win a high percentage of close games last year. So in a normal year, maybe we lose one of those games, but we beat SMU, beat UTSA and UT Martin, and Purdue is a toss up. We end up 11-3 or 10-4, or maybe we have average luck and go 9-5.

That is no reason to think that teams worse than us will beat us and we will go 6-6 this year.

Oh yeah I think the majority knows what we did to PSU yardage-wise compared to other teams they played. And yeah once PSU finally realized what they could do with their run game made things worse. But I still feel we got away from what got us there in the first place like I mentioned in that thread.

Also when it comes to the yardage ranks I still feel the same way as I did here when we talked about it. Looking back and comparing 2014 and 2020 you referenced, they were pretty much the same rank in efficiency. This shows they had to do a lot of work to achieve those numbers you listed last season.

My view is still play-calling was the bigger issue than talent. And with MvE pointing out the lack of time to install the changes they wanted, I'm willing to give the OC an opportunity to show how well his system works next season.

In a nutshell, The 78 yard TD run by Gibson against SMU, would have been a 4 yard run by any of our backs last year, and half of Gibson, Henderson and Gainwell's big plays would have been 5-10 yard gains. If we had players of that caliber, our offense would have been really good, despite the poor line play.

If we had last year's running backs and receivers in 2019, we would have lost 3-5 games.

But that doesn't change my view. Based on what we've seen so far they would have had a harder time making those big plays due to what was being called. And because of what was pointed out, the play-calling was likely due to a new offense that was still "vanilla". Talent can only do so much to overcome that or especially bad playcalling. But the coaches still have to maximize strengths and minimize weaknesses. If you know your players can't do the same things as the ones in the past (which I don't believe it's some big drop-off just yet) then don't try to use them in the same way. Make the necessary adjustments for their strengths. Same with the poor line play. They likely don't have all of the proper assignments installed for blocking if the offense was changing last season. I've always felt the linemen themselves weren't bad and that hasn't changed. So yeah my view is the same, but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for next season.
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RE: Athlon predicts Tiger football to finish 7th
(06-03-2021 03:19 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 08:44 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 08:22 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(05-31-2021 11:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-31-2021 08:04 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Brady made up for a subpar run game and really bad defense. Hard to see how we’re within a game or 2 of last year.

White was exponentially great with a great offensive line, and exponentially not great with a not great offensive line. The new quarterback will almost for sure not be as accurate, but all 3 are much better runners and will also be able to buy more time in the pocket.

I suppose we’ll see. We won 8 games last year with no running game… riding the back of a senior QB who could check us into the right offense and complete passes even when defenses dropped 8 & managed to pressure the QB. Our oline was dreadful… so it’s asking a lot of the new group and a new QB to maintain. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m just trying to be realistic & 6-6 seems fair.

We won with a bad offensive line, a quarterback with zero mobility, lost 3,800 of receiving yardage, and lost a lot of great players. We went 8-3 during what turned out to be a rebuilding year.

Nicholls
Arkansas State 4-7
MSU 4-7
UTSA
Temple 1-6
Tulsa 7-3
Navy 3-7
UCF 6-4
SMU 7-3 H
ECU 3-6
Houston 3-5
Tulane 6-6

Why would we be an underdog to anyone except possibly UCF and Tulsa? What have the other teams done to warrant thinking that half of them will beat us?
I'll answer for the A-State game.

When anywhere close to healthy last year, they were a good team as evidenced by games with Memphis, K-State, and Louisiana, about the only games they were not devastated by COVID-you do remember that COVID thing don't you? It kicked their butt, especially in the trenches after their game with you.

They return the majority of that team, helped their underachieving HC fined another home, and hired a better one.

They were going to be a better team this year without any additions, and more than a handful for the Tigers at their place anyway, but old Butch did not stand pat and added 50+ newbies this week, and included were the following:

Thurman Geathers -DE (Louisville)
Te'Vailance Hunt-WR (TCU)
James Blackman-QB (FSU)
AJ Acock- QB (LSU)
Allen Walters- QB (Miss St)
Akeem Hayes- WR (Kentucky)
Jack Combs- WR (Iowa)
Johnnie Lang- RB (Iowa State)
Nick Lewis- OL (Kentucky)
John Mincey- DL (Tenn)
Kivon Bennett- DL (Tenn)
Tim Hardiman- DL (Navy)
Charles Willekes- DL (Mich St)
Quay Mays- DL (West Virginia)
Scooby Carter- CB (Alabama)
Khyheem Waleed-WR (Boise)

The COVID virus ended their 9 years of winning records and bowl games, but it was going to start again this year without these additions. If you get out of Jonesboro with a win it will shock me.

Memphis rebuilt their Offensive line junior. This will probably be the best offensive line in the AAC.
The defense will also be much improved. Memphis installed the defense basically thru the season, improving as they went along.
Our RBs will be willing to sign autographs for you as they blow kisses running through your defense.
That was our weakest team since year 2 of Justin Fuente's tenure.
You remember that year, don't you? Memphis went 3-9...and still beat stAte's azz 31-7.
Expect more of the same. 03-shhhh
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RE: Athlon predicts Tiger football to finish 7th
(06-04-2021 09:11 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-03-2021 03:19 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 08:44 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 08:22 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(05-31-2021 11:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  White was exponentially great with a great offensive line, and exponentially not great with a not great offensive line. The new quarterback will almost for sure not be as accurate, but all 3 are much better runners and will also be able to buy more time in the pocket.

I suppose we’ll see. We won 8 games last year with no running game… riding the back of a senior QB who could check us into the right offense and complete passes even when defenses dropped 8 & managed to pressure the QB. Our oline was dreadful… so it’s asking a lot of the new group and a new QB to maintain. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m just trying to be realistic & 6-6 seems fair.

We won with a bad offensive line, a quarterback with zero mobility, lost 3,800 of receiving yardage, and lost a lot of great players. We went 8-3 during what turned out to be a rebuilding year.

Nicholls
Arkansas State 4-7
MSU 4-7
UTSA
Temple 1-6
Tulsa 7-3
Navy 3-7
UCF 6-4
SMU 7-3 H
ECU 3-6
Houston 3-5
Tulane 6-6

Why would we be an underdog to anyone except possibly UCF and Tulsa? What have the other teams done to warrant thinking that half of them will beat us?
I'll answer for the A-State game.

When anywhere close to healthy last year, they were a good team as evidenced by games with Memphis, K-State, and Louisiana, about the only games they were not devastated by COVID-you do remember that COVID thing don't you? It kicked their butt, especially in the trenches after their game with you.

They return the majority of that team, helped their underachieving HC fined another home, and hired a better one.

They were going to be a better team this year without any additions, and more than a handful for the Tigers at their place anyway, but old Butch did not stand pat and added 50+ newbies this week, and included were the following:

Thurman Geathers -DE (Louisville)
Te'Vailance Hunt-WR (TCU)
James Blackman-QB (FSU)
AJ Acock- QB (LSU)
Allen Walters- QB (Miss St)
Akeem Hayes- WR (Kentucky)
Jack Combs- WR (Iowa)
Johnnie Lang- RB (Iowa State)
Nick Lewis- OL (Kentucky)
John Mincey- DL (Tenn)
Kivon Bennett- DL (Tenn)
Tim Hardiman- DL (Navy)
Charles Willekes- DL (Mich St)
Quay Mays- DL (West Virginia)
Scooby Carter- CB (Alabama)
Khyheem Waleed-WR (Boise)

The COVID virus ended their 9 years of winning records and bowl games, but it was going to start again this year without these additions. If you get out of Jonesboro with a win it will shock me.

For fun, I checked clown show's list of wide receiver transfers...

Hunt - TCU, 2 years, 5 catches for 18 yards
Hayes - Kentucky, 2 years, 5 catches for 59 yards
Combs - Iowa, 2 years, 0 catches for 0 yards
Waleed - Boise, 2 years, 0 catches for 0 yards

4 transfers, 8 years on a D1 roster, 10 catches for 77 yards.

Their running back transfer should light it up...

Johnnie Lang - Iowa State, 4 years. 2020 3 rushes...2 (TWO) yards

Oh, and Butch Davis. Off to the Access Bowl we go 03-lmfao

Butch Davis is the head coach of Florida International University.
I believe you meant Butch Jones, of "5-star heart" fame.
In other words...the Josh Pastner of college football.
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ASU will be a good game. I think we win in Jonesboro, but I predict they will be a tougher out than Mississippi State.
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(06-06-2021 07:20 AM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  ASU will be a good game. I think we win in Jonesboro, but I predict they will be a tougher out than Mississippi State.

psssh

You saying Arky State would beat MissStake?
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(06-06-2021 12:43 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(06-06-2021 07:20 AM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  ASU will be a good game. I think we win in Jonesboro, but I predict they will be a tougher out than Mississippi State.

psssh

You saying Arky State would beat MissStake?

Probably in Jonesboro. ASU always plays us close and has us at their place. They are an up and coming team. We have MSU at home, I’m not sold on their talent, and wouldn’t be surprised if they overlook us. I predict we go up on MSU early and win by 3 touchdowns
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RE: Athlon predicts Tiger football to finish 7th
(06-04-2021 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 10:49 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(05-31-2021 06:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  [quote='GoDownSwinging' pid='17446113' dateline='1622500099']
Yeah I do believe we will go 6-6 right now. There are a lot of unknowns for this team. We went 4-1 last year games determined by 3 points or fewer. That is a stat that is not sustainable. With graduate transfer taking a hit at our depth, there's just too many unknowns.
The Arkansas State game will be the game that solves a lot of questions. It'll be our first test on the road against a team in Butch Jones that is trying to revamp himself and will coach with a chip on his shoulder.
I do believe Gunnell will do good, but the playmakers around him will be lacking to a certain degree.

Arkansas State loses 2 of their top 3 receivers receivers, their top running back and a lot of other key seniors from a team that went 4-7. We are 26-2 at home the last 4 years, with a 1 point loss to #10 UCF and a 1 point loss to Iowa State, only because Henderson sat out.

Sure, we are all of a sudden going to go 6-6. Some of our fans sure do like to keep it "real." 03-lmfao
Arkansas State lost Jonathan Adams who took the baton from Bayless. Rucker will pick it up now. The best two RBs return and the QB plus a lot of competition. The offense will be improved with a healthy Marcel Murray and Pare as a sophomore.

Biggest change will be on the defensive side where a ton of transfers who contributed or excelled at P5 schools will bring a whole new look to a return to a four man front. Scooby Carter, Kivon Bennett and a bunch of pass rushers will definitely improve what was the worst defense in 15 years.

Biggest improvement will be the departure of Blake Anderson.

Quote:Biggest change will be on the defensive side where a ton of transfers who contributed or excelled at P5 schools will bring a whole new look to a return to a four man front.
03-lmfao01-wingedeagle

Geathers: Loserville - In 2019, appeared in 13 games on defense and on special teams ... played mainly on the punt return team. Opted out of 2020 03-lmfao

Mincey: Tennessee In 2020, Played in all 10 games as a reserve linebacker/defensive lineman, totaling eight tackles and half a tackles for loss ... Made a season-high two tackles at Vanderbilt (12/12) ... Made one tackle and half a TFL vs. #6 Florida (12/5). 03-lmfao

Bennett: Tennessee - Leads team and is tied for second in the SEC with 7.5 TFLs ... Tied for team lead and fourth in SEC with 4.5 sacks. Seems like a great player.

Hardiman: Navy - 2020 recruit, no stars 03-lmfao

Willekes: Michigan State - Walk on, played in 1 game in 2019. 03-lmfao

Mays: West Virginia - Back in late December, West Virginia defensive lineman, Quay Mays elected to enter his name into the transfer portal after spending just one year in the Mountaineer program. Upon arrival, Mays was expected to add some immediate depth to the West Virginia defensive line behind Darius Stills. However, Mays saw very little game action and recorded just four tackles on the season. 03-lmfao

This is one of my least favourite things about early summer. Usually opposing fans have the courtesy of waiting until 3-4 days before a game to tell you last year was a fluke (again), how they will be much improved (again), how they will be great (again) and how you will be "lucky" to beat them (again).

Arkansuck State will be here every day for the next 3 months. Based on the sheer volume and stupidity of their posts, they are the only fanbase that should be banned on]
Cannot imagine how pitiful your life must be with that personality.

Bennett and Mindy will have a big impact. Scooby Carter started for Saban as a freshman and was a five star. Geathers, the kid from UNT and Mays will add depth to the DL.

I don’t come around much but it’s the off-season and it’s an f’ing message board to discuss sports. Lighten up.
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RE: Athlon predicts Tiger football to finish 7th
(06-06-2021 09:10 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 10:49 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  
(05-31-2021 06:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  [quote='GoDownSwinging' pid='17446113' dateline='1622500099']
Yeah I do believe we will go 6-6 right now. There are a lot of unknowns for this team. We went 4-1 last year games determined by 3 points or fewer. That is a stat that is not sustainable. With graduate transfer taking a hit at our depth, there's just too many unknowns.
The Arkansas State game will be the game that solves a lot of questions. It'll be our first test on the road against a team in Butch Jones that is trying to revamp himself and will coach with a chip on his shoulder.
I do believe Gunnell will do good, but the playmakers around him will be lacking to a certain degree.

Arkansas State loses 2 of their top 3 receivers receivers, their top running back and a lot of other key seniors from a team that went 4-7. We are 26-2 at home the last 4 years, with a 1 point loss to #10 UCF and a 1 point loss to Iowa State, only because Henderson sat out.

Sure, we are all of a sudden going to go 6-6. Some of our fans sure do like to keep it "real." 03-lmfao
Arkansas State lost Jonathan Adams who took the baton from Bayless. Rucker will pick it up now. The best two RBs return and the QB plus a lot of competition. The offense will be improved with a healthy Marcel Murray and Pare as a sophomore.

Biggest change will be on the defensive side where a ton of transfers who contributed or excelled at P5 schools will bring a whole new look to a return to a four man front. Scooby Carter, Kivon Bennett and a bunch of pass rushers will definitely improve what was the worst defense in 15 years.

Biggest improvement will be the departure of Blake Anderson.

Quote:Biggest change will be on the defensive side where a ton of transfers who contributed or excelled at P5 schools will bring a whole new look to a return to a four man front.
03-lmfao01-wingedeagle

Geathers: Loserville - In 2019, appeared in 13 games on defense and on special teams ... played mainly on the punt return team. Opted out of 2020 03-lmfao

Mincey: Tennessee In 2020, Played in all 10 games as a reserve linebacker/defensive lineman, totaling eight tackles and half a tackles for loss ... Made a season-high two tackles at Vanderbilt (12/12) ... Made one tackle and half a TFL vs. #6 Florida (12/5). 03-lmfao

Bennett: Tennessee - Leads team and is tied for second in the SEC with 7.5 TFLs ... Tied for team lead and fourth in SEC with 4.5 sacks. Seems like a great player.

Hardiman: Navy - 2020 recruit, no stars 03-lmfao

Willekes: Michigan State - Walk on, played in 1 game in 2019. 03-lmfao

Mays: West Virginia - Back in late December, West Virginia defensive lineman, Quay Mays elected to enter his name into the transfer portal after spending just one year in the Mountaineer program. Upon arrival, Mays was expected to add some immediate depth to the West Virginia defensive line behind Darius Stills. However, Mays saw very little game action and recorded just four tackles on the season. 03-lmfao

This is one of my least favourite things about early summer. Usually opposing fans have the courtesy of waiting until 3-4 days before a game to tell you last year was a fluke (again), how they will be much improved (again), how they will be great (again) and how you will be "lucky" to beat them (again).

Arkansuck State will be here every day for the next 3 months. Based on the sheer volume and stupidity of their posts, they are the only fanbase that should be banned on]
Cannot imagine how pitiful your life must be with that personality.

Bennett and Mindy will have a big impact. Scooby Carter started for Saban as a freshman and was a five star. Geathers, the kid from UNT and Mays will add depth to the DL.

I don’t come around much but it’s the off-season and it’s an f’ing message board to discuss sports. Lighten up.

Quote:a ton of transfers who contributed or excelled at P5 schools


Our whole board is laughing at you. We are as lightened up as can be.
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RE: Athlon predicts Tiger football to finish 7th
(06-04-2021 08:58 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 09:11 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-03-2021 03:19 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 08:44 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 08:22 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I suppose we’ll see. We won 8 games last year with no running game… riding the back of a senior QB who could check us into the right offense and complete passes even when defenses dropped 8 & managed to pressure the QB. Our oline was dreadful… so it’s asking a lot of the new group and a new QB to maintain. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m just trying to be realistic & 6-6 seems fair.

We won with a bad offensive line, a quarterback with zero mobility, lost 3,800 of receiving yardage, and lost a lot of great players. We went 8-3 during what turned out to be a rebuilding year.

Nicholls
Arkansas State 4-7
MSU 4-7
UTSA
Temple 1-6
Tulsa 7-3
Navy 3-7
UCF 6-4
SMU 7-3 H
ECU 3-6
Houston 3-5
Tulane 6-6

Why would we be an underdog to anyone except possibly UCF and Tulsa? What have the other teams done to warrant thinking that half of them will beat us?
I'll answer for the A-State game.

When anywhere close to healthy last year, they were a good team as evidenced by games with Memphis, K-State, and Louisiana, about the only games they were not devastated by COVID-you do remember that COVID thing don't you? It kicked their butt, especially in the trenches after their game with you.

They return the majority of that team, helped their underachieving HC fined another home, and hired a better one.

They were going to be a better team this year without any additions, and more than a handful for the Tigers at their place anyway, but old Butch did not stand pat and added 50+ newbies this week, and included were the following:

Thurman Geathers -DE (Louisville)
Te'Vailance Hunt-WR (TCU)
James Blackman-QB (FSU)
AJ Acock- QB (LSU)
Allen Walters- QB (Miss St)
Akeem Hayes- WR (Kentucky)
Jack Combs- WR (Iowa)
Johnnie Lang- RB (Iowa State)
Nick Lewis- OL (Kentucky)
John Mincey- DL (Tenn)
Kivon Bennett- DL (Tenn)
Tim Hardiman- DL (Navy)
Charles Willekes- DL (Mich St)
Quay Mays- DL (West Virginia)
Scooby Carter- CB (Alabama)
Khyheem Waleed-WR (Boise)

The COVID virus ended their 9 years of winning records and bowl games, but it was going to start again this year without these additions. If you get out of Jonesboro with a win it will shock me.

For fun, I checked clown show's list of wide receiver transfers...

Hunt - TCU, 2 years, 5 catches for 18 yards
Hayes - Kentucky, 2 years, 5 catches for 59 yards
Combs - Iowa, 2 years, 0 catches for 0 yards
Waleed - Boise, 2 years, 0 catches for 0 yards

4 transfers, 8 years on a D1 roster, 10 catches for 77 yards.

Their running back transfer should light it up...

Johnnie Lang - Iowa State, 4 years. 2020 3 rushes...2 (TWO) yards

Oh, and Butch Davis. Off to the Access Bowl we go 03-lmfao

Butch Davis is the head coach of Florida International University.
I believe you meant Butch Jones, of "5-star heart" fame.
In other words...the Josh Pastner of college football.

Pastner ?---Is that the guy that took us to our last few tournaments ?
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RE: Athlon predicts Tiger football to finish 7th
(06-07-2021 08:40 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 08:58 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 09:11 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-03-2021 03:19 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(06-01-2021 08:44 AM)Stammers Wrote:  We won with a bad offensive line, a quarterback with zero mobility, lost 3,800 of receiving yardage, and lost a lot of great players. We went 8-3 during what turned out to be a rebuilding year.

Nicholls
Arkansas State 4-7
MSU 4-7
UTSA
Temple 1-6
Tulsa 7-3
Navy 3-7
UCF 6-4
SMU 7-3 H
ECU 3-6
Houston 3-5
Tulane 6-6

Why would we be an underdog to anyone except possibly UCF and Tulsa? What have the other teams done to warrant thinking that half of them will beat us?
I'll answer for the A-State game.

When anywhere close to healthy last year, they were a good team as evidenced by games with Memphis, K-State, and Louisiana, about the only games they were not devastated by COVID-you do remember that COVID thing don't you? It kicked their butt, especially in the trenches after their game with you.

They return the majority of that team, helped their underachieving HC fined another home, and hired a better one.

They were going to be a better team this year without any additions, and more than a handful for the Tigers at their place anyway, but old Butch did not stand pat and added 50+ newbies this week, and included were the following:

Thurman Geathers -DE (Louisville)
Te'Vailance Hunt-WR (TCU)
James Blackman-QB (FSU)
AJ Acock- QB (LSU)
Allen Walters- QB (Miss St)
Akeem Hayes- WR (Kentucky)
Jack Combs- WR (Iowa)
Johnnie Lang- RB (Iowa State)
Nick Lewis- OL (Kentucky)
John Mincey- DL (Tenn)
Kivon Bennett- DL (Tenn)
Tim Hardiman- DL (Navy)
Charles Willekes- DL (Mich St)
Quay Mays- DL (West Virginia)
Scooby Carter- CB (Alabama)
Khyheem Waleed-WR (Boise)

The COVID virus ended their 9 years of winning records and bowl games, but it was going to start again this year without these additions. If you get out of Jonesboro with a win it will shock me.

For fun, I checked clown show's list of wide receiver transfers...

Hunt - TCU, 2 years, 5 catches for 18 yards
Hayes - Kentucky, 2 years, 5 catches for 59 yards
Combs - Iowa, 2 years, 0 catches for 0 yards
Waleed - Boise, 2 years, 0 catches for 0 yards

4 transfers, 8 years on a D1 roster, 10 catches for 77 yards.

Their running back transfer should light it up...

Johnnie Lang - Iowa State, 4 years. 2020 3 rushes...2 (TWO) yards

Oh, and Butch Davis. Off to the Access Bowl we go 03-lmfao

Butch Davis is the head coach of Florida International University.
I believe you meant Butch Jones, of "5-star heart" fame.
In other words...the Josh Pastner of college football.

Pastner ?---Is that the guy that took us to our last few tournaments ?

Butch Jones

Overall 84–54
Bowls 4–2

Championships
2 MAC (2007, 2009)
2 Big East (2011, 2012)

07-coffee3

But Memphis has superior talent and coaching. Should be a cake walk.

07-coffee3
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RE: Athlon predicts Tiger football to finish 7th
(06-07-2021 09:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(06-07-2021 08:40 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 08:58 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 09:11 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-03-2021 03:19 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I'll answer for the A-State game.

When anywhere close to healthy last year, they were a good team as evidenced by games with Memphis, K-State, and Louisiana, about the only games they were not devastated by COVID-you do remember that COVID thing don't you? It kicked their butt, especially in the trenches after their game with you.

They return the majority of that team, helped their underachieving HC fined another home, and hired a better one.

They were going to be a better team this year without any additions, and more than a handful for the Tigers at their place anyway, but old Butch did not stand pat and added 50+ newbies this week, and included were the following:

Thurman Geathers -DE (Louisville)
Te'Vailance Hunt-WR (TCU)
James Blackman-QB (FSU)
AJ Acock- QB (LSU)
Allen Walters- QB (Miss St)
Akeem Hayes- WR (Kentucky)
Jack Combs- WR (Iowa)
Johnnie Lang- RB (Iowa State)
Nick Lewis- OL (Kentucky)
John Mincey- DL (Tenn)
Kivon Bennett- DL (Tenn)
Tim Hardiman- DL (Navy)
Charles Willekes- DL (Mich St)
Quay Mays- DL (West Virginia)
Scooby Carter- CB (Alabama)
Khyheem Waleed-WR (Boise)

The COVID virus ended their 9 years of winning records and bowl games, but it was going to start again this year without these additions. If you get out of Jonesboro with a win it will shock me.

For fun, I checked clown show's list of wide receiver transfers...

Hunt - TCU, 2 years, 5 catches for 18 yards
Hayes - Kentucky, 2 years, 5 catches for 59 yards
Combs - Iowa, 2 years, 0 catches for 0 yards
Waleed - Boise, 2 years, 0 catches for 0 yards

4 transfers, 8 years on a D1 roster, 10 catches for 77 yards.

Their running back transfer should light it up...

Johnnie Lang - Iowa State, 4 years. 2020 3 rushes...2 (TWO) yards

Oh, and Butch Davis. Off to the Access Bowl we go 03-lmfao

Butch Davis is the head coach of Florida International University.
I believe you meant Butch Jones, of "5-star heart" fame.
In other words...the Josh Pastner of college football.

Pastner ?---Is that the guy that took us to our last few tournaments ?

Butch Jones

Overall 84–54
Bowls 4–2

Championships
2 MAC (2007, 2009)
2 Big East (2011, 2012)

07-coffee3

But Memphis has superior talent and coaching. Should be a cake walk.

07-coffee3

The same $EC troll who thinks Silverfield will run the program into the ground, is bootlicking a coach who ran an $EC program into the ground. Good job, troll.
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RE: Athlon predicts Tiger football to finish 7th
The AAC is tough most years. Cincinnati will be a tough team this year. With Memphis having one of the top incoming recruiting classes, they have a chance to win more than 6 games. Even if they don't, they got a good base to build future teams. I hope they go 12-0 and go on to win the Cotton Bowl this time.
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RE: Athlon predicts Tiger football to finish 7th
(06-08-2021 08:09 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-07-2021 09:34 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(06-07-2021 08:40 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 08:58 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(06-04-2021 09:11 AM)Stammers Wrote:  For fun, I checked clown show's list of wide receiver transfers...

Hunt - TCU, 2 years, 5 catches for 18 yards
Hayes - Kentucky, 2 years, 5 catches for 59 yards
Combs - Iowa, 2 years, 0 catches for 0 yards
Waleed - Boise, 2 years, 0 catches for 0 yards

4 transfers, 8 years on a D1 roster, 10 catches for 77 yards.

Their running back transfer should light it up...

Johnnie Lang - Iowa State, 4 years. 2020 3 rushes...2 (TWO) yards

Oh, and Butch Davis. Off to the Access Bowl we go 03-lmfao

Butch Davis is the head coach of Florida International University.
I believe you meant Butch Jones, of "5-star heart" fame.
In other words...the Josh Pastner of college football.

Pastner ?---Is that the guy that took us to our last few tournaments ?

Butch Jones

Overall 84–54
Bowls 4–2

Championships
2 MAC (2007, 2009)
2 Big East (2011, 2012)

07-coffee3

But Memphis has superior talent and coaching. Should be a cake walk.

07-coffee3

The same $EC troll who thinks Silverfield will run the program into the ground, is bootlicking a coach who ran an $EC program into the ground. Good job, troll.

utk was in the dead before he got there. jones just picked up a natty coaching at Bama. i honestly wonder if some of you even watch football.

03-no
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(06-08-2021 08:20 AM)rc0213 Wrote:  The AAC is tough most years. Cincinnati will be a tough team this year. With Memphis having one of the top incoming recruiting classes, they have a chance to win more than 6 games. Even if they don't, they got a good base to build future teams. I hope they go 12-0 and go on to win the Cotton Bowl this time.

luckily cincy is not on this years powderpuff schedule.

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