Sounds like Wes Miller is a done deal now.

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Yep Wes Miller it is. Now go get some recruits. Sounds like Saunders and Eason would be great in his style of play, particularly from a defensive perspective.

Please someone start a new thread when it is *** OFFICIAL ***

(04-14-2021 07:16 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Please someone start a new thread when it is *** OFFICIAL ***

Is this official enough?

(04-14-2021 07:16 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Please someone start a new thread when it is *** OFFICIAL ***

You made it ***official***

(04-11-2021 09:13 PM)mlb Wrote:  This entire situation has been bungled by the AD. I fully agree with you on that. But players, their parents, and others associated with the program have spoke out against him. His strength and conditioning coach quit and then threw him under the bus. There are clearly issues in the program that need to be righted.

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Hey, our strength and conditioning coach was hired back.

(04-11-2021 04:30 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-11-2021 10:24 AM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Why are you so personally offended by this? The extent to which you are defending Brannen is pretty wild.

the extent UC fans are willing to damage an innocent mans name for basketball is what is wild...

go the brannen hiring thread, I was one of the people against the hire...i posted about how their is little track record of coaches like that having success at this level immediately .. at a school like UC needs immediate success or the fans would turn on them..
i noted the 1st year would be decent becuase it had to many returning players from a good team, but the 2nd year would be the real test...i also doubted his "94 feet system" in a higher level league, which i was attacked by UC fans for saying ( i can bump the thread if you want)

i dont care if you fire him... but brannen is still a person outside of basketball.. and what UC is doing will have far reaching effects beyond the court in "how" theyve decided to fire him.. as you know i watch a lot of coach interviews, the thing that keeps popping in my head through this whole thing is the special UC did for him and his twin high school aged daughters and his family.. he is a person outside of basketball

https://twitter.com/MrKeithJenkins/statu...71309?s=20

Brannen was fired for cause: improper benefits, player intimidation, player health endangerment, etc. He was also warned and reprimanded in writing.

(04-12-2021 09:40 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(04-12-2021 09:15 AM)panite Wrote:  Is this guy getting paid in full or have they come come up with a compromise yet.

We'll know by the end of the summer they aren't getting out of his contract or they would have been sounding it like the Horn of Gabrielle whatever they had. The whole thing is Cincinnati built this up because they clearly thought they would be able to railroad him. If they had the goods on him it would have happened right then. All this twisting and turning and the best they have been able to float to the media is his freshman class left. That's not for cause.

https://twitter.com/MrKeithJenkins/statu...71309?s=20

Every "outsider" opinion on this whole thing has been trash.

(05-03-2021 04:50 PM)Helicopter Wrote:  

(04-12-2021 09:40 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(04-12-2021 09:15 AM)panite Wrote:  Is this guy getting paid in full or have they come come up with a compromise yet.

We'll know by the end of the summer they aren't getting out of his contract or they would have been sounding it like the Horn of Gabrielle whatever they had. The whole thing is Cincinnati built this up because they clearly thought they would be able to railroad him. If they had the goods on him it would have happened right then. All this twisting and turning and the best they have been able to float to the media is his freshman class left. That's not for cause.

https://twitter.com/MrKeithJenkins/statu...71309?s=20

Every "outsider" opinion on this whole thing has been trash.

Everyone loves giving their opinions before the facts come out nowadays. There are entire industries built on that, including sports and news media. Some may call me wishy-washy, but I try my best to remain neutral until I know enough to feel comfortable putting my opinion out. I don't think Brannen is quite Bobby Knight, but it looks to me like we made the right decision.

The letter of reprimand from November (before the season) is a nice thing for the university to have. The letter makes it sound serious and that Brannen understood it to be serious. If that kind of thing continued and Brannen pressured players to keep quiet itb and a slam dunk case to me. Nevermind some of the other issues raised.

why are people acting the "the facts" will come out... no facts are going to come out.

uc is going to release things in trial to construe its meaning to make it seem worse (This was known by all sides)... most people in the country wont buy it, cincy fans will buy it .. and that will be the end of that and forgotten in 2 months

also the slam dunk thing is silly statement... it seems the hard workout things was from November.. but didn't fire him till april...that actually weakens your case, hard to justify cause for something you already reprimanded and moved on from as cause (it was a stronger case when it was believed that UC had just found out)

and at this point you have to be naive, and i mean NAIVE not to think the people leaking the workout stuff werent the UC athletic department from the start..UC was not staying quiet .. this new article is literally just the athletic article but now confirms that its from within the UC department (even tho brendal already said this, but mark didnt want to believe)

It seems a few folks on here conveniently don't remember that just about the entire roster left for the transfer portal both prior to and when the season ended and several players [allegedly] went privately to the AD to voice their reasons/concerns. Can you name me a program this year that had both the number of players transfer out AND the coach was terminated for alleged violations/indiscretions? You can't. That's because this wasn't something to brush under the "weird COVID year" carpet. We had a coach that could not relate to his players and didn't hold their health, safety and welfare to the highest order. However your opinion lands on that is not important...what is important is in today's coaching climate you better have enough damn sense to know that stands at the top of the flag pole or you will not work in this business. That's the reality of it.

(05-03-2021 07:48 PM)pesik Wrote:  why are people acting the "the facts" will come out... no facts are going to come out.

uc is going to release things in trial to construe its meaning to make it seem worse (This was known by all sides)... most people in the country wont buy it, cincy fans will buy it .. and that will be the end of that and forgotten in 2 months

also the slam dunk thing is silly statement... it seems the hard workout things was from November.. but didn't fire him till april...that actually weakens your case, hard to justify cause for something you already reprimanded and moved on from as cause (it was a stronger case when it was believed that UC had just found out)

and at this point you have to be naive, and i mean NAIVE not to think the people leaking the workout stuff werent the UC athletic department from the start..UC was not staying quiet .. this new article is literally just the athletic article but now confirms that its from within the UC department (even tho brendal already said this, but mark didnt want to believe)

So glad you are embedded so deep within the basketball program at UC to bring these things to light.

(05-03-2021 08:22 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  It seems a few folks on here conveniently don't remember that just about the entire roster left for the transfer portal both prior to and when the season ended and several players [allegedly] went privately to the AD to voice their reasons/concerns. Can you name me a program this year that had both the number of players transfer out AND the coach was terminated for alleged violations/indiscretions? You can't. That's because this wasn't something to brush under the "weird COVID year" carpet. We had a coach that could not relate to his players and didn't hold their health, safety and welfare to the highest order. However your opinion lands on that is not important...what is important is in today's coaching climate you better have enough damn sense to know that stands at the top of the flag pole or you will not work in this business. That's the reality of it.

but according to goodman, brendal & norlander (3 different credible sources)... UC was looking for a reason to fire him for months. brendal noted that they even reached out to a few sitting head coaches including frank martin.. martin has drastically worse player abuse allegation floating around .. and according to goodman all the players refused to say they were abused

this was never about the hard practices.. it was never UC had a player safety issue and decided to fire him for it, it was UC wanted to fire him and looked for something to try and fire him on

and UC wasnt top 20 nationally in players in the portal (im counting the players who came back as portal kids)... they werent even #1 in the conference.. that was USF
compare usf to cincy.. in conditioning practice (practices dedicated to getting players in shape).. he ran them too hard.. that to you in a fireable offense in this climate.. that UC itself leaked to the public and would not have been known otherwise
but usf who lost more players, have publicly known claims of racism, noone is fired

every good team in the nation has brutal conditioning practices...will be interesting to see if miller is forced to not condition his players..ps im okay with UC firing brannen, but lets not make it seem like it was some righteous decision

You can spin it however you want to to fit your narrative. No problem. Have at it. I'm telling you the reality is there were reasons given and listed in the termination letter that included not protecting the welfare of the players. I didn't say abuse. You did. In a COVID year especially if you don't protect the players then that's on the coach. There are statements/meetings that took place [allegedly] between players and the AD to add credibility to the charges and that spurned the investigation further. That investigation remains ongoing. It's also the former coach's right to try to defend against why his actions didn't rise to a violation or compromise player safety. Good luck with that. We have a better coach already in place and we are moving on. The former coach can continue to move on in court. His choice.

an interesting aside: our womens soccer coach (a man btw) had something similar happen ot him (but wasn't being sabotaged by the school)
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/ho...992419.php

2 years ago the local ABC tried to run a Hit piece on our womens soccer coach, that he mercilessly running them to death.. like literal death..
2 womens players were their sources.. the girls noted that a different girl on the team had even gotten rhabdo (a disease you get from over working out/running too much.. where one of the potential symptoms is death)

to hit all the hot topic points they even added a story that they had to steal food once from the football players cafeteria, because the school only properly fed the male athletes and the females were left underfed, and when the coach found out he ran the entire team till everyone almost collapsed....
that abc ran that story for 3 weeks straight... literally no one cared.. uh had a 2 day investigation to appease them and just moved on like nothing happened

(05-03-2021 09:06 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  You can spin it however you want to to fit your narrative.

every coach had brutal conditioning.. it is not a spin.. i posted a picture from UH like 4 pages back of multiple UH players collapsed from running getting medical care from our November "conditioning" practices

(05-03-2021 08:47 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-03-2021 08:22 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  It seems a few folks on here conveniently don't remember that just about the entire roster left for the transfer portal both prior to and when the season ended and several players [allegedly] went privately to the AD to voice their reasons/concerns. Can you name me a program this year that had both the number of players transfer out AND the coach was terminated for alleged violations/indiscretions? You can't. That's because this wasn't something to brush under the "weird COVID year" carpet. We had a coach that could not relate to his players and didn't hold their health, safety and welfare to the highest order. However your opinion lands on that is not important...what is important is in today's coaching climate you better have enough damn sense to know that stands at the top of the flag pole or you will not work in this business. That's the reality of it.

but according to goodman, brendal & norlander (3 different credible sources)... UC was looking for a reason to fire him for months. brendal noted that they even reached out to a few sitting head coaches including frank martin.. martin has drastically worse player abuse allegation floating around .. and according to goodman all the players refused to say they were abused

this was never about the hard practices.. it was never UC had a player safety issue and decided to fire him for it, it was UC wanted to fire him and looked for something to try and fire him on

and UC wasnt top 20 nationally in players in the portal (im counting the players who came back as portal kids)... they werent even #1 in the conference.. that was USF
compare usf to cincy.. in conditioning practice (practices dedicated to getting players in shape).. he ran them too hard.. that to you in a fireable offense in this climate.. that UC itself leaked to the public and would not have been known otherwise
but usf who lost more players, have publicly known claims of racism, noone is fired

every good team in the nation has brutal conditioning practices...will be interesting to see if miller is forced to not condition his players..ps im okay with UC firing brannen, but lets not make it seem like it was some righteous decision

Where did Chad Brendel mention that uc contacted Frank Martin?

Please share.


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(05-03-2021 09:16 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  Where did Chad Brendel mention that uc contacted Frank Martin?

Please share.


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it was on the skinny podcast... he said for months he has been hearing uc has been reaching out to prominent HCs to feel their interest in the job, one was martin.. they noted how crazy it would have been to even interview him (had he not signed the extension days prior to brannens firing), you claim to be firing a coach for abuse, then interview a coach with worse abuse allegation and it reveals the true nature off this..

robertfoshizzle posted the link a few pages back, i dont feel like googling, we talked about it here, a few uc fans here noted he is friends with brannen that why he was saying that

(05-03-2021 09:14 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-03-2021 09:06 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  You can spin it however you want to to fit your narrative.

every coach had brutal conditioning.. it is not a spin.. i posted a picture from UH like 4 pages back of multiple UH players collapsed from running getting medical care from our November "conditioning" practices

Did Houston have protocols in place for how practices were to be run? Did Houston have policies and procedures for player safety? Cincinnati did in both these instances. If Houston did, were they repeatedly violated by the coach? "Brutal conditioning" means nothing. Violations or failure to follow these protocols and procedures means everything.