(05-02-2021 06:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:28 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Arizona GOP Leader Kelli Ward is sounding the alarm. Deep State players from Democrat Not-for-Profits (NFPs) were snuck onto the Maricopa County Audit these past couple of days. They are as corrupt as their ‘non-biased’ NFPs are and have no business being on the audit floor.

We reported on Thursday that three far-left NFPs requested that the DOJ intervene on the audit in Arizona and stop it:

Of course, these entities are connected to George Soros and will do anything they can to prevent the 2020 election steal from being uncovered:

AZ GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward issued a “Call to Action” asking for supporters to come together and protect the audit from Democrats who are trying to undermine or stop the process. Ward said there were serious developments causing her to believe that “we are at a tipping point” and believes the audit to be in jeopardy.

She said a group of “experts”, (The Brennan Center and The Protect Democracy Group) wrote a letter asking the DOJ to send Federal monitors to “observe” the Arizona audit. She describes them as “aggressive, dirty, back-room players” who work with BLM and Marxist groups intent on destroying our nation.

Ward said that through a court-pushed agreement between the parties, “Arizona Secretary of State (SoS), Democrat Hack Katie Hobbs” gained access to the audit floor for three representatives. But now we have learned those “observers” monitoring the audit are not even from the SoS’s office. One is an “election consultant” with Protect Democracy, and the other is an attorney with The Brennan Center. Not coincidental, it happens to be the same Washington groups who urged the Feds to “monitor” the audit.

The move undermines Arizona sovereignty to oversee and administer their own elections and sets a dangerous precedent by injecting the Fed-connected groups.

During the last hearing, the court ordered the parties to work together and come to an agreement about providing the SoS access to monitor the audit, which they did. Now it looks as though the SoS took advantage of an agreement that was seemingly made in good faith, by pulling a “bait and switch”. Last week The Gateway Pundit posted the following statement regarding the audits:

As far as we are concerned at The Gateway Pundit election integrity is THE ONLY priority and the MAJOR ISSUE for America’s future.

It is vital that the AZ audit be completed as planned because the ability to conduct the audits necessary to prove this election was stolen may very well hinge on its success. It is clear by the extraordinary measures taken to stop this audit that they know that which is sure to be found.

The reason it is called “America’s Audit” is because this may be the one and only peaceful path to uncover and restore the will of the people and save our great nation.

The AZ Senate must do everything in its power to fight the subversion of that which is right by the S.O.S. and the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors. Here are some things the GOP should consider:

The GOP should consider seeking a T.R.O. to prevent the S.O.S. from injecting any person or entity who may be acting as an officer, agent or representative of the Federal Government onto the premises of the the Coliseum where the audit is being performed.

The GOP could sue these groups for claiming to be non-biased so they don’t have to pay taxes, while clearly showing their bias for the far-left.
SoS Hobbs could be sued for inviting NFP’s onto the audit floor which was not included in the agreement with the GOP.

The actions of the S.O.S. violate the spirit of the agreement and if allowed without protest could be considered acquiescing or agreeing to Federal intervention.

AZ GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward issued a “Call to Action” asking for supporters to come together and protect the audit from Democrats who are trying to undermine or stop the process. Ward said there were serious developments causing her to believe that “we are at a tipping point” and believes the audit to be in jeopardy.

She said a group of “experts”, (The Brennan Center and The Protect Democracy Group) wrote a letter asking the DOJ to send Federal monitors to “observe” the Arizona audit. She describes them as “aggressive, dirty, back-room players” who work with BLM and Marxist groups intent on destroying our nation.

Ward said that through a court-pushed agreement between the parties, “Arizona Secretary of State (SoS), Democrat Hack Katie Hobbs” gained access to the audit floor for three representatives. But now we have learned those “observers” monitoring the audit are not even from the SoS’s office. One is an “election consultant” with Protect Democracy, and the other is an attorney with The Brennan Center. Not coincidental, it happens to be the same Washington groups who urged the Feds to “monitor” the audit.

The move undermines Arizona sovereignty to oversee and administer their own elections and sets a dangerous precedent by injecting the Fed-connected groups.

During the last hearing, the court ordered the parties to work together and come to an agreement about providing the SoS access to monitor the audit, which they did. Now it looks as though the SoS took advantage of an agreement that was seemingly made in good faith, by pulling a “bait and switch”. Last week The Gateway Pundit posted the following statement regarding the audits:

As far as we are concerned at The Gateway Pundit election integrity is THE ONLY priority and the MAJOR ISSUE for America’s future.

It is vital that the AZ audit be completed as planned because the ability to conduct the audits necessary to prove this election was stolen may very well hinge on its success. It is clear by the extraordinary measures taken to stop this audit that they know that which is sure to be found.

The reason it is called “America’s Audit” is because this may be the one and only peaceful path to uncover and restore the will of the people and save our great nation.

The AZ Senate must do everything in its power to fight the subversion of that which is right by the S.O.S. and the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors. Here are some things the GOP should consider:

The GOP should consider seeking a T.R.O. to prevent the S.O.S. from injecting any person or entity who may be acting as an officer, agent or representative of the Federal Government onto the premises of the the Coliseum where the audit is being performed.
The GOP could sue these groups for claiming to be non-biased so they don’t have to pay taxes, while clearly showing their bias for the far-left.
SoS Hobbs could be sued for inviting NFP’s onto the audit floor which was not included in the agreement with the GOP.

The actions of the S.O.S. violate the spirit of the agreement and if allowed without protest could be considered acquiescing or agreeing to Federal intervention.

Link

It is freaking hilarious that someone who hired partisan hacks with no election experience who have pushed the stolen election theory has the lack of self awareness to say anyone has “no place on the audit floor” because of their bias.

I think she may be projecting a bit. Hell, she has a GOP candidate who ran for state senator on the floor auditing ballots where he was a candidate in one of the down ballot races. If you need to have unbiased auditors maybe GOP politicians aren’t the best choice.

If only they'd let observers watch as required by law.

oh, wait...

Where exactly do you think partisan observers weren’t allowed in the nov election?

(05-02-2021 06:37 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  People like Elvii live in clown world.

Clown world ended when the Cheeto headed to retirement land down south.

Hopefully people with sense can save the Republican Party from him and his sycophants and return to being an actual political party.

(05-02-2021 07:41 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 06:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:28 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Arizona GOP Leader Kelli Ward is sounding the alarm. Deep State players from Democrat Not-for-Profits (NFPs) were snuck onto the Maricopa County Audit these past couple of days. They are as corrupt as their ‘non-biased’ NFPs are and have no business being on the audit floor.

We reported on Thursday that three far-left NFPs requested that the DOJ intervene on the audit in Arizona and stop it:

Of course, these entities are connected to George Soros and will do anything they can to prevent the 2020 election steal from being uncovered:

AZ GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward issued a “Call to Action” asking for supporters to come together and protect the audit from Democrats who are trying to undermine or stop the process. Ward said there were serious developments causing her to believe that “we are at a tipping point” and believes the audit to be in jeopardy.

She said a group of “experts”, (The Brennan Center and The Protect Democracy Group) wrote a letter asking the DOJ to send Federal monitors to “observe” the Arizona audit. She describes them as “aggressive, dirty, back-room players” who work with BLM and Marxist groups intent on destroying our nation.

Ward said that through a court-pushed agreement between the parties, “Arizona Secretary of State (SoS), Democrat Hack Katie Hobbs” gained access to the audit floor for three representatives. But now we have learned those “observers” monitoring the audit are not even from the SoS’s office. One is an “election consultant” with Protect Democracy, and the other is an attorney with The Brennan Center. Not coincidental, it happens to be the same Washington groups who urged the Feds to “monitor” the audit.

The move undermines Arizona sovereignty to oversee and administer their own elections and sets a dangerous precedent by injecting the Fed-connected groups.

During the last hearing, the court ordered the parties to work together and come to an agreement about providing the SoS access to monitor the audit, which they did. Now it looks as though the SoS took advantage of an agreement that was seemingly made in good faith, by pulling a “bait and switch”. Last week The Gateway Pundit posted the following statement regarding the audits:

As far as we are concerned at The Gateway Pundit election integrity is THE ONLY priority and the MAJOR ISSUE for America’s future.

It is vital that the AZ audit be completed as planned because the ability to conduct the audits necessary to prove this election was stolen may very well hinge on its success. It is clear by the extraordinary measures taken to stop this audit that they know that which is sure to be found.

The reason it is called “America’s Audit” is because this may be the one and only peaceful path to uncover and restore the will of the people and save our great nation.

The AZ Senate must do everything in its power to fight the subversion of that which is right by the S.O.S. and the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors. Here are some things the GOP should consider:

The GOP should consider seeking a T.R.O. to prevent the S.O.S. from injecting any person or entity who may be acting as an officer, agent or representative of the Federal Government onto the premises of the the Coliseum where the audit is being performed.

The GOP could sue these groups for claiming to be non-biased so they don’t have to pay taxes, while clearly showing their bias for the far-left.
SoS Hobbs could be sued for inviting NFP’s onto the audit floor which was not included in the agreement with the GOP.

The actions of the S.O.S. violate the spirit of the agreement and if allowed without protest could be considered acquiescing or agreeing to Federal intervention.

AZ GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward issued a “Call to Action” asking for supporters to come together and protect the audit from Democrats who are trying to undermine or stop the process. Ward said there were serious developments causing her to believe that “we are at a tipping point” and believes the audit to be in jeopardy.

She said a group of “experts”, (The Brennan Center and The Protect Democracy Group) wrote a letter asking the DOJ to send Federal monitors to “observe” the Arizona audit. She describes them as “aggressive, dirty, back-room players” who work with BLM and Marxist groups intent on destroying our nation.

Ward said that through a court-pushed agreement between the parties, “Arizona Secretary of State (SoS), Democrat Hack Katie Hobbs” gained access to the audit floor for three representatives. But now we have learned those “observers” monitoring the audit are not even from the SoS’s office. One is an “election consultant” with Protect Democracy, and the other is an attorney with The Brennan Center. Not coincidental, it happens to be the same Washington groups who urged the Feds to “monitor” the audit.

The move undermines Arizona sovereignty to oversee and administer their own elections and sets a dangerous precedent by injecting the Fed-connected groups.

During the last hearing, the court ordered the parties to work together and come to an agreement about providing the SoS access to monitor the audit, which they did. Now it looks as though the SoS took advantage of an agreement that was seemingly made in good faith, by pulling a “bait and switch”. Last week The Gateway Pundit posted the following statement regarding the audits:

As far as we are concerned at The Gateway Pundit election integrity is THE ONLY priority and the MAJOR ISSUE for America’s future.

It is vital that the AZ audit be completed as planned because the ability to conduct the audits necessary to prove this election was stolen may very well hinge on its success. It is clear by the extraordinary measures taken to stop this audit that they know that which is sure to be found.

The reason it is called “America’s Audit” is because this may be the one and only peaceful path to uncover and restore the will of the people and save our great nation.

The AZ Senate must do everything in its power to fight the subversion of that which is right by the S.O.S. and the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors. Here are some things the GOP should consider:

The GOP should consider seeking a T.R.O. to prevent the S.O.S. from injecting any person or entity who may be acting as an officer, agent or representative of the Federal Government onto the premises of the the Coliseum where the audit is being performed.
The GOP could sue these groups for claiming to be non-biased so they don’t have to pay taxes, while clearly showing their bias for the far-left.
SoS Hobbs could be sued for inviting NFP’s onto the audit floor which was not included in the agreement with the GOP.

The actions of the S.O.S. violate the spirit of the agreement and if allowed without protest could be considered acquiescing or agreeing to Federal intervention.

Link

It is freaking hilarious that someone who hired partisan hacks with no election experience who have pushed the stolen election theory has the lack of self awareness to say anyone has “no place on the audit floor” because of their bias.

I think she may be projecting a bit. Hell, she has a GOP candidate who ran for state senator on the floor auditing ballots where he was a candidate in one of the down ballot races. If you need to have unbiased auditors maybe GOP politicians aren’t the best choice.

If only they'd let observers watch as required by law.

oh, wait...

Where exactly do you think partisan observers weren’t allowed in the nov election?

Let's start with State Farm Arena.

They didn’t show it on Clown News Network so it’s news to him.

(05-02-2021 07:41 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 06:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:28 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Arizona GOP Leader Kelli Ward is sounding the alarm. Deep State players from Democrat Not-for-Profits (NFPs) were snuck onto the Maricopa County Audit these past couple of days. They are as corrupt as their ‘non-biased’ NFPs are and have no business being on the audit floor.

We reported on Thursday that three far-left NFPs requested that the DOJ intervene on the audit in Arizona and stop it:

Of course, these entities are connected to George Soros and will do anything they can to prevent the 2020 election steal from being uncovered:

AZ GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward issued a “Call to Action” asking for supporters to come together and protect the audit from Democrats who are trying to undermine or stop the process. Ward said there were serious developments causing her to believe that “we are at a tipping point” and believes the audit to be in jeopardy.

She said a group of “experts”, (The Brennan Center and The Protect Democracy Group) wrote a letter asking the DOJ to send Federal monitors to “observe” the Arizona audit. She describes them as “aggressive, dirty, back-room players” who work with BLM and Marxist groups intent on destroying our nation.

Ward said that through a court-pushed agreement between the parties, “Arizona Secretary of State (SoS), Democrat Hack Katie Hobbs” gained access to the audit floor for three representatives. But now we have learned those “observers” monitoring the audit are not even from the SoS’s office. One is an “election consultant” with Protect Democracy, and the other is an attorney with The Brennan Center. Not coincidental, it happens to be the same Washington groups who urged the Feds to “monitor” the audit.

The move undermines Arizona sovereignty to oversee and administer their own elections and sets a dangerous precedent by injecting the Fed-connected groups.

During the last hearing, the court ordered the parties to work together and come to an agreement about providing the SoS access to monitor the audit, which they did. Now it looks as though the SoS took advantage of an agreement that was seemingly made in good faith, by pulling a “bait and switch”. Last week The Gateway Pundit posted the following statement regarding the audits:

As far as we are concerned at The Gateway Pundit election integrity is THE ONLY priority and the MAJOR ISSUE for America’s future.

It is vital that the AZ audit be completed as planned because the ability to conduct the audits necessary to prove this election was stolen may very well hinge on its success. It is clear by the extraordinary measures taken to stop this audit that they know that which is sure to be found.

The reason it is called “America’s Audit” is because this may be the one and only peaceful path to uncover and restore the will of the people and save our great nation.

The AZ Senate must do everything in its power to fight the subversion of that which is right by the S.O.S. and the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors. Here are some things the GOP should consider:

The GOP should consider seeking a T.R.O. to prevent the S.O.S. from injecting any person or entity who may be acting as an officer, agent or representative of the Federal Government onto the premises of the the Coliseum where the audit is being performed.

The GOP could sue these groups for claiming to be non-biased so they don’t have to pay taxes, while clearly showing their bias for the far-left.
SoS Hobbs could be sued for inviting NFP’s onto the audit floor which was not included in the agreement with the GOP.

The actions of the S.O.S. violate the spirit of the agreement and if allowed without protest could be considered acquiescing or agreeing to Federal intervention.

AZ GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward issued a “Call to Action” asking for supporters to come together and protect the audit from Democrats who are trying to undermine or stop the process. Ward said there were serious developments causing her to believe that “we are at a tipping point” and believes the audit to be in jeopardy.

She said a group of “experts”, (The Brennan Center and The Protect Democracy Group) wrote a letter asking the DOJ to send Federal monitors to “observe” the Arizona audit. She describes them as “aggressive, dirty, back-room players” who work with BLM and Marxist groups intent on destroying our nation.

Ward said that through a court-pushed agreement between the parties, “Arizona Secretary of State (SoS), Democrat Hack Katie Hobbs” gained access to the audit floor for three representatives. But now we have learned those “observers” monitoring the audit are not even from the SoS’s office. One is an “election consultant” with Protect Democracy, and the other is an attorney with The Brennan Center. Not coincidental, it happens to be the same Washington groups who urged the Feds to “monitor” the audit.

The move undermines Arizona sovereignty to oversee and administer their own elections and sets a dangerous precedent by injecting the Fed-connected groups.

During the last hearing, the court ordered the parties to work together and come to an agreement about providing the SoS access to monitor the audit, which they did. Now it looks as though the SoS took advantage of an agreement that was seemingly made in good faith, by pulling a “bait and switch”. Last week The Gateway Pundit posted the following statement regarding the audits:

As far as we are concerned at The Gateway Pundit election integrity is THE ONLY priority and the MAJOR ISSUE for America’s future.

It is vital that the AZ audit be completed as planned because the ability to conduct the audits necessary to prove this election was stolen may very well hinge on its success. It is clear by the extraordinary measures taken to stop this audit that they know that which is sure to be found.

The reason it is called “America’s Audit” is because this may be the one and only peaceful path to uncover and restore the will of the people and save our great nation.

The AZ Senate must do everything in its power to fight the subversion of that which is right by the S.O.S. and the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors. Here are some things the GOP should consider:

The GOP should consider seeking a T.R.O. to prevent the S.O.S. from injecting any person or entity who may be acting as an officer, agent or representative of the Federal Government onto the premises of the the Coliseum where the audit is being performed.
The GOP could sue these groups for claiming to be non-biased so they don’t have to pay taxes, while clearly showing their bias for the far-left.
SoS Hobbs could be sued for inviting NFP’s onto the audit floor which was not included in the agreement with the GOP.

The actions of the S.O.S. violate the spirit of the agreement and if allowed without protest could be considered acquiescing or agreeing to Federal intervention.

Link

It is freaking hilarious that someone who hired partisan hacks with no election experience who have pushed the stolen election theory has the lack of self awareness to say anyone has “no place on the audit floor” because of their bias.

I think she may be projecting a bit. Hell, she has a GOP candidate who ran for state senator on the floor auditing ballots where he was a candidate in one of the down ballot races. If you need to have unbiased auditors maybe GOP politicians aren’t the best choice.

If only they'd let observers watch as required by law.

oh, wait...

Where exactly do you think partisan observers weren’t allowed in the nov election?

Michigan still counting votes, angry poll watchers barred in Detroit, Trump sues

I know what the fake news fact checkers say, but we saw it happen during live coverage.

Philly, Detroit, Atlanta... you know exactly what happened.

I don’t think he knows chit. He’s a hack moron and they generally don’t know chit.

(05-02-2021 08:49 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 07:41 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 06:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:28 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Link

It is freaking hilarious that someone who hired partisan hacks with no election experience who have pushed the stolen election theory has the lack of self awareness to say anyone has “no place on the audit floor” because of their bias.

I think she may be projecting a bit. Hell, she has a GOP candidate who ran for state senator on the floor auditing ballots where he was a candidate in one of the down ballot races. If you need to have unbiased auditors maybe GOP politicians aren’t the best choice.

If only they'd let observers watch as required by law.

oh, wait...

Where exactly do you think partisan observers weren’t allowed in the nov election?

Let's start with State Farm Arena.

Your hypothesis is that the AZ recount has something to do with an event you think happened in Georgia?

Observers were never barred from State Farm, they left when the letter openers left instead of staying until everyone left.

(05-02-2021 10:42 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 07:41 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 06:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:28 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Link

It is freaking hilarious that someone who hired partisan hacks with no election experience who have pushed the stolen election theory has the lack of self awareness to say anyone has “no place on the audit floor” because of their bias.

I think she may be projecting a bit. Hell, she has a GOP candidate who ran for state senator on the floor auditing ballots where he was a candidate in one of the down ballot races. If you need to have unbiased auditors maybe GOP politicians aren’t the best choice.

If only they'd let observers watch as required by law.

oh, wait...

Where exactly do you think partisan observers weren’t allowed in the nov election?

Michigan still counting votes, angry poll watchers barred in Detroit, Trump sues

I know what the fake news fact checkers say, but we saw it happen during live coverage.

Philly, Detroit, Atlanta... you know exactly what happened.

There were 200+ republican observers already in the room in Detroit.

They can’t let everyone in, they won’t physically fit. Capacity is a pretty simple concept. They set a number for Republicans, Democrats, and independents before they started the process. If they didn’t set capacity controls by party then one of the parties would have an actual gripe.

What exactly do you think the 30 observers excluded for capacity reasons (which included democrats) would have seen that the 200 observers from each party in the room didn’t? Were those 30 some kind of eagle eyed election fraud super hero’s in Trump flag capes that can see things that the 200 republican observers in the room can’t?

(05-02-2021 10:42 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 07:41 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 06:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:28 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Link

It is freaking hilarious that someone who hired partisan hacks with no election experience who have pushed the stolen election theory has the lack of self awareness to say anyone has “no place on the audit floor” because of their bias.

I think she may be projecting a bit. Hell, she has a GOP candidate who ran for state senator on the floor auditing ballots where he was a candidate in one of the down ballot races. If you need to have unbiased auditors maybe GOP politicians aren’t the best choice.

If only they'd let observers watch as required by law.

oh, wait...

Where exactly do you think partisan observers weren’t allowed in the nov election?

Michigan still counting votes, angry poll watchers barred in Detroit, Trump sues

I know what the fake news fact checkers say, but we saw it happen during live coverage.

Philly, Detroit, Atlanta... you know exactly what happened.

Yes, you saw someone boarding up a window, but you apparently don't have the first ******* clue that regardless of what you saw, there were still observers in the room. The location was being proactive in response to an angry mob of idiot cultists, trying to prevent another Brooks Brothers riot like we saw in Florida.

(05-03-2021 07:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 10:42 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 07:41 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 06:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  It is freaking hilarious that someone who hired partisan hacks with no election experience who have pushed the stolen election theory has the lack of self awareness to say anyone has “no place on the audit floor” because of their bias.

I think she may be projecting a bit. Hell, she has a GOP candidate who ran for state senator on the floor auditing ballots where he was a candidate in one of the down ballot races. If you need to have unbiased auditors maybe GOP politicians aren’t the best choice.

If only they'd let observers watch as required by law.

oh, wait...

Where exactly do you think partisan observers weren’t allowed in the nov election?

Michigan still counting votes, angry poll watchers barred in Detroit, Trump sues

I know what the fake news fact checkers say, but we saw it happen during live coverage.

Philly, Detroit, Atlanta... you know exactly what happened.

Yes, you saw someone boarding up a window, but you apparently don't have the first ******* clue that regardless of what you saw, there were still observers in the room. The location was being proactive in response to an angry mob of idiot cultists, trying to prevent another Brooks Brothers riot like we saw in Florida.

Of course they were. Cardboard is the preferred material to cover your shop windows in anticipation of a rioting mob....

How does commietom know there were observers in the room? Does he have pics? Any proof of his statement at all? No, of course not. Like all of his commie brethren, he just makes up any facts he needs, as he needs them. Truth and justice be damned. What a disingenuous liar he is.

(05-03-2021 08:07 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  How does commietom know there were observers in the room? Does he have pics? Any proof of his statement at all? No, of course not. Like all of his commie brethren, he just makes up any facts he needs, as he needs them. Truth and justice be damned. What a disingenuous liar he is.

You're already on line fool, use it.

Quote:However, the City of Detroit’s corporation counsel, Lawrence Garcia, the official spokesman on this issue, told Reuters by text message: “Both Republicans and Democrats were inside the ballot-counting room.

“Officials just had to stop letting more in because the room was well beyond capacity of both Republican and Democrat,” he wrote. “There was never a policy of blocking only one party’s election challengers from entering the CCB (Central Counting Board). When we realized we had far more than one challenger per counting board per party - for both parties - we temporarily stopped admitting all challengers regardless of party.”

Jocelyn Benson, Secretary of State for Michigan, reiterated this in an interview with CBS News: “From the moment the polls opened yesterday, when our poll workers and election workers were able to begin tabulating ballots up until now, they have been following every rule, meticulously counting every vote, doing so transparently with people from both sides of the aisle, both looking on and working the process”

The Detroit Free Press also reported that 134 challengers were present from each party at the beginning of Nov. 4, alongside 134 nonpartisan poll observers (here) .

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...SKBN27L2DR

(05-03-2021 08:07 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  How does commietom know there were observers in the room? Does he have pics? Any proof of his statement at all? No, of course not. Like all of his commie brethren, he just makes up any facts he needs, as he needs them. Truth and justice be damned. What a disingenuous liar he is.

Prove they weren’t there then. You want to be about the truth, then post sources to back up your claim that there weren’t election challengers and observers inside.

Fortunately, I know what utter tools both of you are even if I can't see your posts. Unfortunately, someone will come along and quote them (and prove me right).

(05-03-2021 06:18 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 08:49 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 07:41 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 06:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  It is freaking hilarious that someone who hired partisan hacks with no election experience who have pushed the stolen election theory has the lack of self awareness to say anyone has “no place on the audit floor” because of their bias.

I think she may be projecting a bit. Hell, she has a GOP candidate who ran for state senator on the floor auditing ballots where he was a candidate in one of the down ballot races. If you need to have unbiased auditors maybe GOP politicians aren’t the best choice.

If only they'd let observers watch as required by law.

oh, wait...

Where exactly do you think partisan observers weren’t allowed in the nov election?

Let's start with State Farm Arena.

Your hypothesis is that the AZ recount has something to do with an event you think happened in Georgia?

Observers were never barred from State Farm, they left when the letter openers left instead of staying until everyone left.

No. The people of Arizona believe something fishy happened in Maricopa County. They think they had enough evidence to warrant an in-depth review of their election.

There are counties and states all over the country who believe something fishy happened in their own backyards and are earnestly watching the AZ investigation to determine if they think they should open their own investigations.

(05-03-2021 06:30 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 10:42 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 07:41 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 06:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 12:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  It is freaking hilarious that someone who hired partisan hacks with no election experience who have pushed the stolen election theory has the lack of self awareness to say anyone has “no place on the audit floor” because of their bias.

I think she may be projecting a bit. Hell, she has a GOP candidate who ran for state senator on the floor auditing ballots where he was a candidate in one of the down ballot races. If you need to have unbiased auditors maybe GOP politicians aren’t the best choice.

If only they'd let observers watch as required by law.

oh, wait...

Where exactly do you think partisan observers weren’t allowed in the nov election?

Michigan still counting votes, angry poll watchers barred in Detroit, Trump sues

I know what the fake news fact checkers say, but we saw it happen during live coverage.

Philly, Detroit, Atlanta... you know exactly what happened.

There were 200+ republican observers already in the room in Detroit.

They can’t let everyone in, they won’t physically fit. Capacity is a pretty simple concept. They set a number for Republicans, Democrats, and independents before they started the process. If they didn’t set capacity controls by party then one of the parties would have an actual gripe.

What exactly do you think the 30 observers excluded for capacity reasons (which included democrats) would have seen that the 200 observers from each party in the room didn’t? Were those 30 some kind of eagle eyed election fraud super hero’s in Trump flag capes that can see things that the 200 republican observers in the room can’t?

(05-03-2021 08:23 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Fortunately, I know what utter tools both of you are even if I can't see your posts. Unfortunately, someone will come along and quote them (and prove me right).

You: Tom has no proof of what he said, even though it is a quote in the AP from an election official.

Also you : Has no proof whatsoever of your position and can’t post any.

(05-03-2021 08:29 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-03-2021 06:30 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 10:42 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 07:41 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 06:32 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  If only they'd let observers watch as required by law.

oh, wait...

Where exactly do you think partisan observers weren’t allowed in the nov election?

Michigan still counting votes, angry poll watchers barred in Detroit, Trump sues

I know what the fake news fact checkers say, but we saw it happen during live coverage.

Philly, Detroit, Atlanta... you know exactly what happened.

There were 200+ republican observers already in the room in Detroit.

They can’t let everyone in, they won’t physically fit. Capacity is a pretty simple concept. They set a number for Republicans, Democrats, and independents before they started the process. If they didn’t set capacity controls by party then one of the parties would have an actual gripe.

What exactly do you think the 30 observers excluded for capacity reasons (which included democrats) would have seen that the 200 observers from each party in the room didn’t? Were those 30 some kind of eagle eyed election fraud super hero’s in Trump flag capes that can see things that the 200 republican observers in the room can’t?

The truth has stumped you?

(05-03-2021 08:33 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-03-2021 08:29 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-03-2021 06:30 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 10:42 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-02-2021 07:41 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  Where exactly do you think partisan observers weren’t allowed in the nov election?

Michigan still counting votes, angry poll watchers barred in Detroit, Trump sues

I know what the fake news fact checkers say, but we saw it happen during live coverage.

Philly, Detroit, Atlanta... you know exactly what happened.

There were 200+ republican observers already in the room in Detroit.

They can’t let everyone in, they won’t physically fit. Capacity is a pretty simple concept. They set a number for Republicans, Democrats, and independents before they started the process. If they didn’t set capacity controls by party then one of the parties would have an actual gripe.

What exactly do you think the 30 observers excluded for capacity reasons (which included democrats) would have seen that the 200 observers from each party in the room didn’t? Were those 30 some kind of eagle eyed election fraud super hero’s in Trump flag capes that can see things that the 200 republican observers in the room can’t?

The truth has stumped you?

Boy, you nailed it.

One of the Democrats' weapons attacking the Arizona audit is Mark Lindeman and his org Verified Voting. They have continuously claimed there was no election fraud.

But just how reliable is Lindeman and VV?

Note that the article below was published 11 months PRIOR to the Nov 20 election.

Two experts quit election accountability group over claims it has been endorsing untrustworthy machines
Fast Company
BY MARK SULLIVAN
12-13-19

Quote:Amid heightened concerns about the integrity of the voting process in the run-up to the 2020 presidential election, two election security experts recently quit Verified Voting, a respected election accountability group, in protest. They claim that it has been downplaying security risks in popular voting machines.

Richard DeMillo, a Georgia Tech professor who sat on Verified Voter’s advisory board, just left the group, soon after the departure of UC Berkeley statistics professor Philip Stark, a board member who sent a fiery letter of resignation on November 21st. Stark and DeMillo believe that Verified Voting has been giving election officials false confidence in their voting machines and providing cover for the companies that make and sell the machines.

Their resignation letters are linked below:

• Philip Stark letter
• Richard DeMillo letter in body of article

They both resigned because they believe VV was committed more so to promoting insecure voting machines rather than election integrity.