(04-27-2021 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 10:56 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 10:48 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 08:22 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(04-26-2021 11:56 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  Cisse missed the majority of the second half for us because he was such a liability. Big Sam and Chandler will help up more down the stretch for sure. Big Sam is going to be very good.

Sam is a not a high rated big man coming in. Expectations for his freshman season should be very tempered. I do not see him playing a large amount of minutes and being super productive as a freshman. I certainly do not see him getting minutes at the end of games unless all of our bigs are fouled out.

I tend to agree. But keep in mind that HS ratings last year are basically out the window, because seniors didn't get good face-face evaluations and the summer period was largely MIA. Not saying he's better than his rating, because I haven't seen him and honestly have no idea. But it is certainly possible.

It's a very good chance Sam is better on offense right now than Moussa was. But he obviously won't be the shot eraser/alterer his first year. So I see him certainly being an option when Malco can't go. Chandler will likely be option #1, but Sam will get minutes.

There is a chance with more practice time and hopefully less covid issues that Sam will be ahead of where Moussa was at the same time. I think he will get some minutes each game. Not a lot but will be able to eat some minutes. I think Deandre and Chandler will also see time at the 5.

They will have to see mins at the 5 if we don't get a competent 5 in the portal. MD mins will be limited by his knees but he's our best option currently. If Sam can shoot FTs at 50%+, he will also get mins I'm guessing. DW & Lawson getting mins at the 5 will surely be nothing more than situational or we are in trouble inside.

We weren't in any trouble inside. That is just you being your usual lazy self, posting something with no clue at all if it is accurate or not.

(04-27-2021 11:53 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:41 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:23 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 10:56 AM)Irse Wrote:  There is a chance with more practice time and hopefully less covid issues that Sam will be ahead of where Moussa was at the same time. I think he will get some minutes each game. Not a lot but will be able to eat some minutes. I think Deandre and Chandler will also see time at the 5.

They will have to see mins at the 5 if we don't get a competent 5 in the portal. MD mins will be limited by his knees but he's our best option currently. If Sam can shoot FTs at 50%+, he will also get mins I'm guessing. DW & Lawson getting mins at the 5 will surely be nothing more than situational or we are in trouble inside.

DW must have played quite a few minutes at the 5 in the last two games since the MD/MC combo played a total of 17 and 23 minutes. I don't think DJ played much at the 5 when they were out.

DW and DJ alternated guarding the other 5. And we were not "in trouble inside". Quite the contrary. We exposed teams and stretched leads.

The BSU guy exposed us towards the end of that game. To the point Penny was forced to put Cisse back in the game.

Competent Bigs will be able to score over Williams\DJ. Question is can they win their matchup on the other end.

First, there aren't many competent bigs in the AAC - especially on both ends of the floor.
Second, are you sure that BSU made their run with Moussa on the bench? I recall him missing a FT with about 2 minutes left that ultimately led to BSU's only lead late in the game. But I could be wrong, and you have the lineup data.

(04-27-2021 12:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:41 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:23 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 10:56 AM)Irse Wrote:  There is a chance with more practice time and hopefully less covid issues that Sam will be ahead of where Moussa was at the same time. I think he will get some minutes each game. Not a lot but will be able to eat some minutes. I think Deandre and Chandler will also see time at the 5.

They will have to see mins at the 5 if we don't get a competent 5 in the portal. MD mins will be limited by his knees but he's our best option currently. If Sam can shoot FTs at 50%+, he will also get mins I'm guessing. DW & Lawson getting mins at the 5 will surely be nothing more than situational or we are in trouble inside.

DW must have played quite a few minutes at the 5 in the last two games since the MD/MC combo played a total of 17 and 23 minutes. I don't think DJ played much at the 5 when they were out.

DW and DJ alternated guarding the other 5. And we were not "in trouble inside". Quite the contrary. We exposed teams and stretched leads.

Why have 5 on the roster at all then? We don't need a 5 or a PG, we just expose teams without them. And everyone lived happily thereafter with BB redefined by the personnel of 2-3 opponents. Focus there & not on the personnel of the final four teams, we might repeat as NIT champs with that approach.

We have two pure 5's on the roster. That is enough. We also have 6'9" Deandre who is 24, and Chandler at 6'8" with 2 years experience. And we have good experience that shows small ball can be effective for us.

You have nothing but complaints that we don't have a high-level NBA prospect at every position.

(04-27-2021 12:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:53 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:41 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:23 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  They will have to see mins at the 5 if we don't get a competent 5 in the portal. MD mins will be limited by his knees but he's our best option currently. If Sam can shoot FTs at 50%+, he will also get mins I'm guessing. DW & Lawson getting mins at the 5 will surely be nothing more than situational or we are in trouble inside.

DW must have played quite a few minutes at the 5 in the last two games since the MD/MC combo played a total of 17 and 23 minutes. I don't think DJ played much at the 5 when they were out.

DW and DJ alternated guarding the other 5. And we were not "in trouble inside". Quite the contrary. We exposed teams and stretched leads.

The BSU guy exposed us towards the end of that game. To the point Penny was forced to put Cisse back in the game.

Competent Bigs will be able to score over Williams\DJ. Question is can they win their matchup on the other end.

First, there aren't many competent bigs in the AAC - especially on both ends of the floor.
Second, are you sure that BSU made their run with Moussa on the bench? I recall him missing a FT with about 2 minutes left that ultimately led to BSU's only lead late in the game. But I could be wrong, and you have the lineup data.

BSU big scored 6 points with Moussa out.

Moussa and Malcom both were out of the game from the under 13 minutes until Penny was forced to Moussa back in because BSU kept going to their big and winning the matchup. It was painfully clear he was killing us...Not sure how you don't remember that.

Moussa was subbed in at around 2 minutes after the lead was cut from 9 to 2 in a span of 3 minutes.

(04-27-2021 12:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:53 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:41 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:23 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  They will have to see mins at the 5 if we don't get a competent 5 in the portal. MD mins will be limited by his knees but he's our best option currently. If Sam can shoot FTs at 50%+, he will also get mins I'm guessing. DW & Lawson getting mins at the 5 will surely be nothing more than situational or we are in trouble inside.

DW must have played quite a few minutes at the 5 in the last two games since the MD/MC combo played a total of 17 and 23 minutes. I don't think DJ played much at the 5 when they were out.

DW and DJ alternated guarding the other 5. And we were not "in trouble inside". Quite the contrary. We exposed teams and stretched leads.

The BSU guy exposed us towards the end of that game. To the point Penny was forced to put Cisse back in the game.

Competent Bigs will be able to score over Williams\DJ. Question is can they win their matchup on the other end.

First, there aren't many competent bigs in the AAC - especially on both ends of the floor.
Second, are you sure that BSU made their run with Moussa on the bench? I recall him missing a FT with about 2 minutes left that ultimately led to BSU's only lead late in the game. But I could be wrong, and you have the lineup data.

So our aspirations are to just compete in the AAC? With the nucleus we have coming back we are a competent 5 & a high level PG away from final four potential. That's what we ought to be striving for not just whether the AAC has competent 5s. Baylor had 3 competent 5s & needed them all to get to & win the title... . and a great PG, just like all of the final four teams

(04-27-2021 12:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:41 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:23 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 10:56 AM)Irse Wrote:  There is a chance with more practice time and hopefully less covid issues that Sam will be ahead of where Moussa was at the same time. I think he will get some minutes each game. Not a lot but will be able to eat some minutes. I think Deandre and Chandler will also see time at the 5.

They will have to see mins at the 5 if we don't get a competent 5 in the portal. MD mins will be limited by his knees but he's our best option currently. If Sam can shoot FTs at 50%+, he will also get mins I'm guessing. DW & Lawson getting mins at the 5 will surely be nothing more than situational or we are in trouble inside.

DW must have played quite a few minutes at the 5 in the last two games since the MD/MC combo played a total of 17 and 23 minutes. I don't think DJ played much at the 5 when they were out.

DW and DJ alternated guarding the other 5. And we were not "in trouble inside". Quite the contrary. We exposed teams and stretched leads.

Why have 5 on the roster at all then? We don't need a 5 or a PG, we just expose teams without them. And everyone lived happily thereafter with BB redefined by the personnel of 2-3 opponents. Focus there & not on the personnel of the final four teams, we might repeat as NIT champs with that approach.

UCLA's top 5 scorers, and 7 of their top 9 were guards. They only had two bigs of note, averaging 10 and 5.4, and 6.1 and 5.5. Their 3rd big played 13 minutes total in their last 3 tournament games. They had one player with 5.4 assists; their next highest total was 2 assists per game.

UCLA went to the Final Four.

Houston didn't have a single player on their roster taller than 6'8". None of their traditional bigs averaged over 6.2 points or 4.1 rebounds per game. Their top assist man had 4.3 per game and then the next highest was at 2.2 per game. What they did have was a bunch of players that played great defense at the 2-4, and a couple of players that could light it up on offense.

Houston went to the Final Four.

Another lazy post, with not even a minute spent on research or any attempt to back up any of what you are saying with anything factual. You got one of your trademark strange ideas in your head and made up a fairy tale.

Anyone can completely destroy every post you make with less than 1 minute of research, like I did just now.

(04-27-2021 12:32 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:41 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:23 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  They will have to see mins at the 5 if we don't get a competent 5 in the portal. MD mins will be limited by his knees but he's our best option currently. If Sam can shoot FTs at 50%+, he will also get mins I'm guessing. DW & Lawson getting mins at the 5 will surely be nothing more than situational or we are in trouble inside.

DW must have played quite a few minutes at the 5 in the last two games since the MD/MC combo played a total of 17 and 23 minutes. I don't think DJ played much at the 5 when they were out.

DW and DJ alternated guarding the other 5. And we were not "in trouble inside". Quite the contrary. We exposed teams and stretched leads.

Why have 5 on the roster at all then? We don't need a 5 or a PG, we just expose teams without them. And everyone lived happily thereafter with BB redefined by the personnel of 2-3 opponents. Focus there & not on the personnel of the final four teams, we might repeat as NIT champs with that approach.

UCLA's top 5 scorers, and 7 of their top 9 were guards. They only had two bigs of note, averaging 10 and 5.4, and 6.1 and 5.5. Their 3rd big played 13 minutes total in their last 3 tournament games. They had one player with 5.4 assists; their next highest total was 2 assists per game.

UCLA went to the Final Four.

Houston didn't have a single player on their roster taller than 6'8". None of their traditional bigs averaged over 6.2 points or 4.1 rebounds per game. Their top assist man had 4.3 per game and then the next highest was at 2.2 per game. What they did have was a bunch of players that played great defense at the 2-4, and a couple of players that could light it up on offense.

Houston went to the Final Four.

Another lazy post, with not even a minute spent on research or any attempt to back up any of what you are saying with anything factual. You got one of your trademark strange ideas in your head and made up a fairy tale.

Anyone can completely destroy every post you make with less than 1 minute of research, like I did just now.

UH, UCLA, Gonzaga & UH all had high level PGs as I said - each also had a competent 5 regardless of their height (remember 6'8" claimed Dorsey who was really 6'5"?). Baylor who I said had 3 competent 5s won it all. And BTW, guys don't have to have big stats to be competent, just not be used on defense & able to control the boards. And you think you'd at least watch the games & understand it. We couldn't keep DW on the floor in crucial games, now you want him to play the 5 too, SMH. Yeah, you go do your research & act as if the games were never played because it's apparent you don't understand the game.

Our best lineup last year didn't have a traditional PG or 5. This was the lineup:

Boogie
LQ
Landers
DJ
DeAndre

This coming year it will probably be something like this(this may or may not be the starters)
ALo
LQ
Landers
Earl
DW

People keep saying "high level" PG etc. Its about TURNOVERS. It doesn't matter if it's Jalen Suggs or Derrick Rose. If you're going to turn the ball over 3-4 times a game, we aren't going to win.

ALo is a solid PG. His problem has been turning the ball over. If he can cut them down, I think we're fine with him. He's a leader and plays great defense despite his height.

Behind ALo, DeAndre was the next best in initiating the offense and distributing the ball. He also was a high TO guy.
Get those two to at least cut their TOs in half we'll be tough to beat with the way we defend.

(04-27-2021 01:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:32 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:41 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:23 AM)Irse Wrote:  DW must have played quite a few minutes at the 5 in the last two games since the MD/MC combo played a total of 17 and 23 minutes. I don't think DJ played much at the 5 when they were out.

DW and DJ alternated guarding the other 5. And we were not "in trouble inside". Quite the contrary. We exposed teams and stretched leads.

Why have 5 on the roster at all then? We don't need a 5 or a PG, we just expose teams without them. And everyone lived happily thereafter with BB redefined by the personnel of 2-3 opponents. Focus there & not on the personnel of the final four teams, we might repeat as NIT champs with that approach.

UCLA's top 5 scorers, and 7 of their top 9 were guards. They only had two bigs of note, averaging 10 and 5.4, and 6.1 and 5.5. Their 3rd big played 13 minutes total in their last 3 tournament games. They had one player with 5.4 assists; their next highest total was 2 assists per game.

UCLA went to the Final Four.

Houston didn't have a single player on their roster taller than 6'8". None of their traditional bigs averaged over 6.2 points or 4.1 rebounds per game. Their top assist man had 4.3 per game and then the next highest was at 2.2 per game. What they did have was a bunch of players that played great defense at the 2-4, and a couple of players that could light it up on offense.

Houston went to the Final Four.

Another lazy post, with not even a minute spent on research or any attempt to back up any of what you are saying with anything factual. You got one of your trademark strange ideas in your head and made up a fairy tale.

Anyone can completely destroy every post you make with less than 1 minute of research, like I did just now.

UH, UCLA, Gonzaga & UH all had high level PGs as I said - each also had a competent 5 regardless of their height (remember 6'8" claimed Dorsey who was really 6'5"?). Baylor who I said had 3 competent 5s won it all. And BTW, guys don't have to have big stats to be competent, just not be used on defense & able to control the boards. And you think you'd at least watch the games & understand it. We couldn't keep DW on the floor in crucial games, now you want him to play the 5 too, SMH. Yeah, you go do your research & act as if the games were never played because it's apparent you don't understand the game.

2 out of the 4 teams in the Final Four, Ricardo. 2 out of the 4, including one in our conference. Plus as an added bonus, you can't you can't read or understand the point. So sad.

(04-27-2021 01:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:32 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:41 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:23 AM)Irse Wrote:  DW must have played quite a few minutes at the 5 in the last two games since the MD/MC combo played a total of 17 and 23 minutes. I don't think DJ played much at the 5 when they were out.

DW and DJ alternated guarding the other 5. And we were not "in trouble inside". Quite the contrary. We exposed teams and stretched leads.

Why have 5 on the roster at all then? We don't need a 5 or a PG, we just expose teams without them. And everyone lived happily thereafter with BB redefined by the personnel of 2-3 opponents. Focus there & not on the personnel of the final four teams, we might repeat as NIT champs with that approach.

UCLA's top 5 scorers, and 7 of their top 9 were guards. They only had two bigs of note, averaging 10 and 5.4, and 6.1 and 5.5. Their 3rd big played 13 minutes total in their last 3 tournament games. They had one player with 5.4 assists; their next highest total was 2 assists per game.

UCLA went to the Final Four.

Houston didn't have a single player on their roster taller than 6'8". None of their traditional bigs averaged over 6.2 points or 4.1 rebounds per game. Their top assist man had 4.3 per game and then the next highest was at 2.2 per game. What they did have was a bunch of players that played great defense at the 2-4, and a couple of players that could light it up on offense.

Houston went to the Final Four.

Another lazy post, with not even a minute spent on research or any attempt to back up any of what you are saying with anything factual. You got one of your trademark strange ideas in your head and made up a fairy tale.

Anyone can completely destroy every post you make with less than 1 minute of research, like I did just now.

UH, UCLA, Gonzaga & UH all had high level PGs as I said - each also had a competent 5 regardless of their height (remember 6'8" claimed Dorsey who was really 6'5"?). Baylor who I said had 3 competent 5s won it all. And BTW, guys don't have to have big stats to be competent, just not be used on defense & able to control the boards. And you think you'd at least watch the games & understand it. We couldn't keep DW on the floor in crucial games, now you want him to play the 5 too, SMH. Yeah, you go do your research & act as if the games were never played because it's apparent you don't understand the game.

Who was Houston’s PG? Jarreau? He’s not a true point and I’ll argue that one all night

(04-27-2021 02:20 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 01:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:32 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:41 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  DW and DJ alternated guarding the other 5. And we were not "in trouble inside". Quite the contrary. We exposed teams and stretched leads.

Why have 5 on the roster at all then? We don't need a 5 or a PG, we just expose teams without them. And everyone lived happily thereafter with BB redefined by the personnel of 2-3 opponents. Focus there & not on the personnel of the final four teams, we might repeat as NIT champs with that approach.

UCLA's top 5 scorers, and 7 of their top 9 were guards. They only had two bigs of note, averaging 10 and 5.4, and 6.1 and 5.5. Their 3rd big played 13 minutes total in their last 3 tournament games. They had one player with 5.4 assists; their next highest total was 2 assists per game.

UCLA went to the Final Four.

Houston didn't have a single player on their roster taller than 6'8". None of their traditional bigs averaged over 6.2 points or 4.1 rebounds per game. Their top assist man had 4.3 per game and then the next highest was at 2.2 per game. What they did have was a bunch of players that played great defense at the 2-4, and a couple of players that could light it up on offense.

Houston went to the Final Four.

Another lazy post, with not even a minute spent on research or any attempt to back up any of what you are saying with anything factual. You got one of your trademark strange ideas in your head and made up a fairy tale.

Anyone can completely destroy every post you make with less than 1 minute of research, like I did just now.

UH, UCLA, Gonzaga & UH all had high level PGs as I said - each also had a competent 5 regardless of their height (remember 6'8" claimed Dorsey who was really 6'5"?). Baylor who I said had 3 competent 5s won it all. And BTW, guys don't have to have big stats to be competent, just not be used on defense & able to control the boards. And you think you'd at least watch the games & understand it. We couldn't keep DW on the floor in crucial games, now you want him to play the 5 too, SMH. Yeah, you go do your research & act as if the games were never played because it's apparent you don't understand the game.

Who was Houston’s PG? Jarreau? He’s not a true point and I’ll argue that one all night

He is literally making everything up. Everyone is destroying him (as usual) and he is oblivious.

(04-27-2021 02:20 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 01:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:32 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:41 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  DW and DJ alternated guarding the other 5. And we were not "in trouble inside". Quite the contrary. We exposed teams and stretched leads.

Why have 5 on the roster at all then? We don't need a 5 or a PG, we just expose teams without them. And everyone lived happily thereafter with BB redefined by the personnel of 2-3 opponents. Focus there & not on the personnel of the final four teams, we might repeat as NIT champs with that approach.

UCLA's top 5 scorers, and 7 of their top 9 were guards. They only had two bigs of note, averaging 10 and 5.4, and 6.1 and 5.5. Their 3rd big played 13 minutes total in their last 3 tournament games. They had one player with 5.4 assists; their next highest total was 2 assists per game.

UCLA went to the Final Four.

Houston didn't have a single player on their roster taller than 6'8". None of their traditional bigs averaged over 6.2 points or 4.1 rebounds per game. Their top assist man had 4.3 per game and then the next highest was at 2.2 per game. What they did have was a bunch of players that played great defense at the 2-4, and a couple of players that could light it up on offense.

Houston went to the Final Four.

Another lazy post, with not even a minute spent on research or any attempt to back up any of what you are saying with anything factual. You got one of your trademark strange ideas in your head and made up a fairy tale.

Anyone can completely destroy every post you make with less than 1 minute of research, like I did just now.

UH, UCLA, Gonzaga & UH all had high level PGs as I said - each also had a competent 5 regardless of their height (remember 6'8" claimed Dorsey who was really 6'5"?). Baylor who I said had 3 competent 5s won it all. And BTW, guys don't have to have big stats to be competent, just not be used on defense & able to control the boards. And you think you'd at least watch the games & understand it. We couldn't keep DW on the floor in crucial games, now you want him to play the 5 too, SMH. Yeah, you go do your research & act as if the games were never played because it's apparent you don't understand the game.

Who was Houston’s PG? Jarreau? He’s not a true point and I’ll argue that one all night

He was a creator...The guy who stirred the drink. He was more important to that team than the so called "AAC player of the year"

That is what we were missing before Deandre started to fill that role.

(04-27-2021 02:22 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 02:20 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 01:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:32 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:01 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Why have 5 on the roster at all then? We don't need a 5 or a PG, we just expose teams without them. And everyone lived happily thereafter with BB redefined by the personnel of 2-3 opponents. Focus there & not on the personnel of the final four teams, we might repeat as NIT champs with that approach.

UCLA's top 5 scorers, and 7 of their top 9 were guards. They only had two bigs of note, averaging 10 and 5.4, and 6.1 and 5.5. Their 3rd big played 13 minutes total in their last 3 tournament games. They had one player with 5.4 assists; their next highest total was 2 assists per game.

UCLA went to the Final Four.

Houston didn't have a single player on their roster taller than 6'8". None of their traditional bigs averaged over 6.2 points or 4.1 rebounds per game. Their top assist man had 4.3 per game and then the next highest was at 2.2 per game. What they did have was a bunch of players that played great defense at the 2-4, and a couple of players that could light it up on offense.

Houston went to the Final Four.

Another lazy post, with not even a minute spent on research or any attempt to back up any of what you are saying with anything factual. You got one of your trademark strange ideas in your head and made up a fairy tale.

Anyone can completely destroy every post you make with less than 1 minute of research, like I did just now.

UH, UCLA, Gonzaga & UH all had high level PGs as I said - each also had a competent 5 regardless of their height (remember 6'8" claimed Dorsey who was really 6'5"?). Baylor who I said had 3 competent 5s won it all. And BTW, guys don't have to have big stats to be competent, just not be used on defense & able to control the boards. And you think you'd at least watch the games & understand it. We couldn't keep DW on the floor in crucial games, now you want him to play the 5 too, SMH. Yeah, you go do your research & act as if the games were never played because it's apparent you don't understand the game.

Who was Houston’s PG? Jarreau? He’s not a true point and I’ll argue that one all night

He was a creator...The guy who stirred the drink. He was more important to that team than the so called "AAC player of the year"

That is what we were missing before Deandre started to fill that role.

Lomax was doing it from Wichita to when he got injured.

8 Games
9.0 Points
5.3 Assists
2.4 Turnovers
2.1 Steals
3.5 Rebounds
59.0% Field Goal
54.5% 3 Point

(04-27-2021 12:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:53 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:41 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:23 AM)Irse Wrote:  DW must have played quite a few minutes at the 5 in the last two games since the MD/MC combo played a total of 17 and 23 minutes. I don't think DJ played much at the 5 when they were out.

DW and DJ alternated guarding the other 5. And we were not "in trouble inside". Quite the contrary. We exposed teams and stretched leads.

The BSU guy exposed us towards the end of that game. To the point Penny was forced to put Cisse back in the game.

Competent Bigs will be able to score over Williams\DJ. Question is can they win their matchup on the other end.

First, there aren't many competent bigs in the AAC - especially on both ends of the floor.
Second, are you sure that BSU made their run with Moussa on the bench? I recall him missing a FT with about 2 minutes left that ultimately led to BSU's only lead late in the game. But I could be wrong, and you have the lineup data.

BSU big scored 6 points with Moussa out.

Moussa and Malcom both were out of the game from the under 13 minutes until Penny was forced to Moussa back in because BSU kept going to their big and winning the matchup. It was painfully clear he was killing us...Not sure how you don't remember that.

Moussa was subbed in at around 2 minutes after the lead was cut from 9 to 2 in a span of 3 minutes.

I also seem to recall the other end of the court, where we got more than we gave. It's a full-court game.

Moussa did come back down the stretch, miss a FT, and our lead was gone with him on the court. What I don't know is the +/- during the 10-ish minute stretch you're talking about.

Generally, at 13 minutes, we were down by 2 pts. At 2 minutes, we were up by 2 pts. It had been a roller coaster, but small ball was a + over time. I think. Do you have those numbers?

(04-27-2021 03:05 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:53 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:41 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  DW and DJ alternated guarding the other 5. And we were not "in trouble inside". Quite the contrary. We exposed teams and stretched leads.

The BSU guy exposed us towards the end of that game. To the point Penny was forced to put Cisse back in the game.

Competent Bigs will be able to score over Williams\DJ. Question is can they win their matchup on the other end.

First, there aren't many competent bigs in the AAC - especially on both ends of the floor.
Second, are you sure that BSU made their run with Moussa on the bench? I recall him missing a FT with about 2 minutes left that ultimately led to BSU's only lead late in the game. But I could be wrong, and you have the lineup data.

BSU big scored 6 points with Moussa out.

Moussa and Malcom both were out of the game from the under 13 minutes until Penny was forced to Moussa back in because BSU kept going to their big and winning the matchup. It was painfully clear he was killing us...Not sure how you don't remember that.

Moussa was subbed in at around 2 minutes after the lead was cut from 9 to 2 in a span of 3 minutes.

I also seem to recall the other end of the court, where we got more than we gave. It's a full-court game.

Moussa did come back down the stretch, miss a FT, and our lead was gone with him on the court. What I don't know is the +/- during the 10-ish minute stretch you're talking about.

Generally, at 13 minutes, we were down by 2 pts. At 2 minutes, we were up by 2 pts. It had been a roller coaster, but small ball was a + over time. I think. Do you have those numbers?

Are you seriously going to argue that at the end of the game their big wasn't working us?

When they realized they had a mismatch and started to go to it he killed us?

Why do you think Penny put Cisse back in...Because small ball was hurting the team and we were being EXPOSED for a lack of size. Wouldn't you call that being in trouble inside if you have to revert to a big lineup. He didn't put Cisse in because he wanted to...He put him in because the small lineup couldn't stop the kid.

Moussa’s presence in the middle and overall numbers can and will easily be replaced. I’d wager Malcolm can easily provide both. Hopefully the big kid Onu can as well. This team has terrific size at every spot.

The thing about Malcolm is his lack of FIRE and EXUBERANCE. Moussa had both. That will be missed.

(04-27-2021 03:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 03:05 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 11:53 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  The BSU guy exposed us towards the end of that game. To the point Penny was forced to put Cisse back in the game.

Competent Bigs will be able to score over Williams\DJ. Question is can they win their matchup on the other end.

First, there aren't many competent bigs in the AAC - especially on both ends of the floor.
Second, are you sure that BSU made their run with Moussa on the bench? I recall him missing a FT with about 2 minutes left that ultimately led to BSU's only lead late in the game. But I could be wrong, and you have the lineup data.

BSU big scored 6 points with Moussa out.

Moussa and Malcom both were out of the game from the under 13 minutes until Penny was forced to Moussa back in because BSU kept going to their big and winning the matchup. It was painfully clear he was killing us...Not sure how you don't remember that.

Moussa was subbed in at around 2 minutes after the lead was cut from 9 to 2 in a span of 3 minutes.

I also seem to recall the other end of the court, where we got more than we gave. It's a full-court game.

Moussa did come back down the stretch, miss a FT, and our lead was gone with him on the court. What I don't know is the +/- during the 10-ish minute stretch you're talking about.

Generally, at 13 minutes, we were down by 2 pts. At 2 minutes, we were up by 2 pts. It had been a roller coaster, but small ball was a + over time. I think. Do you have those numbers?

Are you seriously going to argue that at the end of the game their big wasn't working us?

When they realized they had a mismatch and started to go to it he killed us?

Why do you think Penny put Cisse back in...Because small ball was hurting the team and we were being EXPOSED for a lack of size. Wouldn't you call that being in trouble inside if you have to revert to a big lineup. He didn't put Cisse in because he wanted to...He put him in because the small lineup couldn't stop the kid.

No, I'm simply making the point that we made some of our best runs late in the season playing small ball. Are you seriously going to argue that we did not?

You are the one picking a 3-minute span and extrapolating, while ignoring the overall +/- (something you are really big on is certain situations) of the smaller lineup. (I'll help you. We were +4 during that stretch, and that includes the 2 buckets late by their big guy right before Cisse came back in.)

Yes, BSU figured it out and made a run, while Deandre had 4 fouls. That only proves we can't go into the year with no centers and plan on playing small ball all year. Fortunately, we are not.

(04-27-2021 04:23 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 03:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 03:05 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-27-2021 12:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  First, there aren't many competent bigs in the AAC - especially on both ends of the floor.
Second, are you sure that BSU made their run with Moussa on the bench? I recall him missing a FT with about 2 minutes left that ultimately led to BSU's only lead late in the game. But I could be wrong, and you have the lineup data.

BSU big scored 6 points with Moussa out.

Moussa and Malcom both were out of the game from the under 13 minutes until Penny was forced to Moussa back in because BSU kept going to their big and winning the matchup. It was painfully clear he was killing us...Not sure how you don't remember that.

Moussa was subbed in at around 2 minutes after the lead was cut from 9 to 2 in a span of 3 minutes.

I also seem to recall the other end of the court, where we got more than we gave. It's a full-court game.

Moussa did come back down the stretch, miss a FT, and our lead was gone with him on the court. What I don't know is the +/- during the 10-ish minute stretch you're talking about.

Generally, at 13 minutes, we were down by 2 pts. At 2 minutes, we were up by 2 pts. It had been a roller coaster, but small ball was a + over time. I think. Do you have those numbers?

Are you seriously going to argue that at the end of the game their big wasn't working us?

When they realized they had a mismatch and started to go to it he killed us?

Why do you think Penny put Cisse back in...Because small ball was hurting the team and we were being EXPOSED for a lack of size. Wouldn't you call that being in trouble inside if you have to revert to a big lineup. He didn't put Cisse in because he wanted to...He put him in because the small lineup couldn't stop the kid.

No, I'm simply making the point that we made some of our best runs late in the season playing small ball. Are you seriously going to argue that we did not?

You are the one picking a 3-minute span and extrapolating, while ignoring the overall +/- (something you are really big on is certain situations) of the smaller lineup. (I'll help you. We were +4 during that stretch, and that includes the 2 buckets late by their big guy right before Cisse came back in.)

Yes, BSU figured it out and made a run, while Deandre had 4 fouls. That only proves we can't go into the year with no centers and plan on playing small ball all year. Fortunately, we are not.

No I am pointing out a competent big can expose our small ball lineup.

The origin of this thread of conversation...I provided an example of less than competent big giving us issues. So we are saying the same thing...That given a competent big our small lineup can be exposed...I think we agree. The reason that they didn't force our hand earlier is on their coach...Not anything we did.

Here is my original post

Quote:The BSU guy exposed us towards the end of that game. To the point Penny was forced to put Cisse back in the game.

Competent Bigs will be able to score over Williams\DJ. Question is can they win their matchup on the other end.

You'll like Sam plus he is now a 7-foot, 260-pound big man

(04-28-2021 02:18 PM)hartlessnhere Wrote:  You'll like Sam plus he is now a 7-foot, 260-pound big man

I honestly think we lose some defense with Sam...

But surely we gain some offense.

Still think a sophmore Cisse is much better than a freshman Sam.

But Freshman Cisse...Not sure there will be a huge difference in production vs. Freshman Sam. Just will come in different areas.