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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
(04-20-2021 12:19 PM)Irse Wrote: (04-20-2021 09:34 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: (04-19-2021 08:56 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: (04-19-2021 05:51 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (04-19-2021 05:36 PM)founder20 Wrote: According to Jason Munz, Malcolm already told Penny he’ll be back. Obviously things can change, but doesn’t sound like he’s dependent on Moussa.
That's really good news if Cisse happens to come back. I always felt like he wouldn't want to leave. But I understand a crowded bench with Cisse, Malcolm, and Sam - all who can only play the one position.
Sam will most likely not receive significant minutes as a true freshman. I am not "being down" on the kid in anyway, however, it is unlikely he comes in a freshman and plays big minutes.
Agree about Sam.
But breakdown the minutes. They all can only play the 5. So there's only 40 minutes for the 3 of them. And that assumes Penny never goes small ball with Deandre at the 5 (unlikely).
Sam will get some play - say 5 minutes.
If Cisse comes back, you can expect he will get more minutes this year - it will be a condition for him to come back. Say he goes from 19 to 25.
That leaves 10 minutes for Malcolm - max. He's been around 13 minutes for his career.
Will Malcolm be happy having his minutes reduced in his 3rd year?
I hope Cisse comes back but if he's laying conditions on what it takes to get him back, I hope he doesn't come back. Penny needs to run the team the way he thinks he needs to. Not have someone tell him how many minutes he need to play.
If Cisse meets with Penny to discuss coming back, Penny will layout the plan to max his potential and help him get to the NBA. That will most certainly include increasing minutes - along with FTs, catching passes, and defending in space. His minutes would almost certainly go up - whether Cisse sets the condition or Penny offers it.
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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
(04-19-2021 11:48 AM)Irse Wrote: (04-19-2021 11:37 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: Interesting quote from Penny re Moussa.
https://mobile.twitter.com/_JonahJordan/...9049465867
If we have two available right now, does that mean Jayden is a walkon? I count 12 with him.
Jayden was a walk-on last year as well.
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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
(04-20-2021 12:37 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote: (04-20-2021 12:31 PM)macgar32 Wrote: (04-20-2021 12:19 PM)Irse Wrote: (04-20-2021 09:34 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: (04-19-2021 08:56 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: Sam will most likely not receive significant minutes as a true freshman. I am not "being down" on the kid in anyway, however, it is unlikely he comes in a freshman and plays big minutes.
Agree about Sam.
But breakdown the minutes. They all can only play the 5. So there's only 40 minutes for the 3 of them. And that assumes Penny never goes small ball with Deandre at the 5 (unlikely).
Sam will get some play - say 5 minutes.
If Cisse comes back, you can expect he will get more minutes this year - it will be a condition for him to come back. Say he goes from 19 to 25.
That leaves 10 minutes for Malcolm - max. He's been around 13 minutes for his career.
Will Malcolm be happy having his minutes reduced in his 3rd year?
I hope Cisse comes back but if he's laying conditions on what it takes to get him back, I hope he doesn't come back. Penny needs to run the team the way he thinks he needs to. Not have someone tell him how many minutes he need to play.
Heck I accept those conditions if he accepts mine...
Shoot 70ish percent from the line and be able to hit open 12 foot jumpers...He meets my conditions I would guarantee he can play 25 minutes a game.
I would settle for 60% from the line and an occasional drop step and jump hook from 8 feet
Would be ecstatic with that as well.
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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
lol You guys are never happy, much less ecstatic. not that there's anything wrong with that.
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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
(04-20-2021 10:29 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote: (04-19-2021 11:48 AM)Irse Wrote: (04-19-2021 11:37 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: Interesting quote from Penny re Moussa.
https://mobile.twitter.com/_JonahJordan/...9049465867
If we have two available right now, does that mean Jayden is a walkon? I count 12 with him.
Jayden was a walk-on last year as well.
Never heard that, other than here. And there was a scholly available for him. You got a link on that?
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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
(04-20-2021 10:29 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote: (04-19-2021 11:48 AM)Irse Wrote: (04-19-2021 11:37 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: Interesting quote from Penny re Moussa.
https://mobile.twitter.com/_JonahJordan/...9049465867
If we have two available right now, does that mean Jayden is a walkon? I count 12 with him.
Jayden was a walk-on last year as well.
Nope.
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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
(04-21-2021 11:21 AM)snowtiger Wrote: lol You guys are never happy, much less ecstatic. not that there's anything wrong with that.
It’s hard to be ecstatic about a 30% free throw shooter.
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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
I've posted before: Cisse needs to learn to shoot free throws underhanded ala Rick Barry.
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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
(04-21-2021 04:31 PM)bill dazzle Wrote: I've posted before: Cisse needs to learn to shoot free throws underhanded ala Rick Barry.
Chamberlain tried it and said he felt like a sissy. Shaq said “Too cool for that. I’d rather shoot zero percent.” Out of the top ten reasons players don’t use the technique, the coolness factor is is for sure #1. There is no 2-10.
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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
he was great, but he was no MJ
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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
(04-21-2021 06:33 PM)k2tigers Wrote: he was great, but he was no MJ
Mj couldn’t carry Wilt’s jock. Wilt still has 70+ records and he hasn’t played in 40+ years.
Just for starters, Wilt scored 50+ 118 times in his career. Easily the most ever. Mj is second with 31. Wilt averaged 50.4 a game for a season. Along with 26 rebounds.
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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
(04-21-2021 02:06 PM)Stammers Wrote: (04-20-2021 10:29 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote: (04-19-2021 11:48 AM)Irse Wrote: (04-19-2021 11:37 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: Interesting quote from Penny re Moussa.
https://mobile.twitter.com/_JonahJordan/...9049465867
If we have two available right now, does that mean Jayden is a walkon? I count 12 with him.
Jayden was a walk-on last year as well.
Nope.
I was wondering if Jayden would transfer to SC State with Coach Madlock ??? He would be a significant contributor at that level ....
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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
(04-21-2021 07:29 PM)DDrum1961 Wrote: (04-21-2021 02:06 PM)Stammers Wrote: (04-20-2021 10:29 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote: (04-19-2021 11:48 AM)Irse Wrote: (04-19-2021 11:37 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: Interesting quote from Penny re Moussa.
https://mobile.twitter.com/_JonahJordan/...9049465867
If we have two available right now, does that mean Jayden is a walkon? I count 12 with him.
Jayden was a walk-on last year as well.
Nope.
I was wondering if Jayden would transfer to SC State with Coach Madlock ??? He would be a significant contributor at that level ....
No
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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
(04-21-2021 02:06 PM)Stammers Wrote: (04-20-2021 10:29 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote: (04-19-2021 11:48 AM)Irse Wrote: (04-19-2021 11:37 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: Interesting quote from Penny re Moussa.
https://mobile.twitter.com/_JonahJordan/...9049465867
If we have two available right now, does that mean Jayden is a walkon? I count 12 with him.
Jayden was a walk-on last year as well.
Nope.
Yep
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RE: Memphis’ Moussa Cisse Declares For The NBA Draft
(04-21-2021 06:44 PM)450bench Wrote: (04-21-2021 06:33 PM)k2tigers Wrote: he was great, but he was no MJ
Mj couldn’t carry Wilt’s jock. Wilt still has 70+ records and he hasn’t played in 40+ years.
Just for starters, Wilt scored 50+ 118 times in his career. Easily the most ever. Mj is second with 31. Wilt averaged 50.4 a game for a season. Along with 26 rebounds.
Wilt was the most Dominant in his Era...
I don't think many would argue with that...But his era doesn't compare well to today.
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