(01-14-2021 11:26 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 10:24 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 11:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 06:21 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 04:05 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Lol...Honestly, I can’t think of a less important factor than it’s appeal as a travel destination.

The AAC is a made for tv league. It’s about brand, media value, and competitive value. There are 2 million people in Vegas and around 3 million in the whole state. Fresno only has about half a million people, but it’s in the middle of the San Joaquin Valley, which has about 4 million people and no pro sports. A second California school helps build interest in a state with 37 million people and gives you 6 extra potential late night starts per year—which has value to ESPN.

I get that UNLV could improve, but we are talking about trying to dominate the G5 slot. UNLV doesn’t do crap for that. Yeah, they are getting a new stadium—but they are also getting an 800 pound NFL gorilla that will suck most of the air out of the sports landscape in Vegas. UNLV barely gets support with no competition—what happens to their season ticket base when the NFL becomes an option for season tickets? That massive NFL stadium might not be the panacea you think it will be. UNLV has the real potential to end up facing what Tulane dealt with playing before small crowds in the Superdome. A small crowd in a massive stadium isn’t the best college football atmosphere.

Your opinion is well intentioned but short on facts. While there isn’t any pro sports in the SJV it doesn’t matter. Pro is king here. No one really cares all that much for college that isn’t eight Oregon or USC.

Fresno is a big city but an awful city with poor travel options. There isn’t **** there, it’s akin to being California’s Lubbock.

I get that—but pro is King most EVERYWHERE. UNLV will be no different, likely more so with their own NFL team. As for Fresno being a poor destination—who cares? It’s a TV league. Treveling fans make up a minuscule part of crowds. We each rely on our own fans to fill stadiums and UNLV has none.

Fresno generally tends to field very competitive football teams winning the MW championship in 2012, 2013, and 2018. Frenso draws far more fans than UNLV—which is a decent proxy for relative interest in the two programs. Fresno sucked in 2019 (4-8) and still averaged over 31K a game in attendance. UNLV couldnt even break 20K in average attendance in 2019.

Bottom line is UNLV is the MW version UConn football....but without the fading P5 brand name. UNLV’s only value lies in basketball and we wouldn’t be getting that. UNLV does nothing to make the AAC more dominate with respect to the G5 slot—in fact, their crap football program would be an anchor dragging down our league performance relative to other leagues. From a performance standpoint, Literally any other team in the MW would make a better addition than UNLV.

That’s what I’m saying if it’s a tv league Fresno isn’t going to draw. I’d think getting in and out of Fresno would be something fans would be at least interested in. I also brought up pro sports as being king bc California and the West as a whole isn’t like the South. College football is an afterthought. Not popular.

It's an afterthought to you because you live in a swamp. I remember when my brother moved to San Diego from Chi. He said we're a day behind the rest of the country when it comes to news.

You get them in the Central and East time zones and every thing will change. You telling me nobody cares about Boise where I live. I can tell you nobody gives a flip about UCF out here.

Funny how people who've lived in a bubble their whole lives can't see past their front yards.

How many times do we have to tell you that Orlando is not a swamp. It’s the highest point on the peninsula.

(01-14-2021 11:39 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 11:26 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 10:24 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 11:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 06:21 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Your opinion is well intentioned but short on facts. While there isn’t any pro sports in the SJV it doesn’t matter. Pro is king here. No one really cares all that much for college that isn’t eight Oregon or USC.

Fresno is a big city but an awful city with poor travel options. There isn’t **** there, it’s akin to being California’s Lubbock.

I get that—but pro is King most EVERYWHERE. UNLV will be no different, likely more so with their own NFL team. As for Fresno being a poor destination—who cares? It’s a TV league. Treveling fans make up a minuscule part of crowds. We each rely on our own fans to fill stadiums and UNLV has none.

Fresno generally tends to field very competitive football teams winning the MW championship in 2012, 2013, and 2018. Frenso draws far more fans than UNLV—which is a decent proxy for relative interest in the two programs. Fresno sucked in 2019 (4-8) and still averaged over 31K a game in attendance. UNLV couldnt even break 20K in average attendance in 2019.

Bottom line is UNLV is the MW version UConn football....but without the fading P5 brand name. UNLV’s only value lies in basketball and we wouldn’t be getting that. UNLV does nothing to make the AAC more dominate with respect to the G5 slot—in fact, their crap football program would be an anchor dragging down our league performance relative to other leagues. From a performance standpoint, Literally any other team in the MW would make a better addition than UNLV.

That’s what I’m saying if it’s a tv league Fresno isn’t going to draw. I’d think getting in and out of Fresno would be something fans would be at least interested in. I also brought up pro sports as being king bc California and the West as a whole isn’t like the South. College football is an afterthought. Not popular.

It's an afterthought to you because you live in a swamp. I remember when my brother moved to San Diego from Chi. He said we're a day behind the rest of the country when it comes to news.

You get them in the Central and East time zones and every thing will change. You telling me nobody cares about Boise where I live. I can tell you nobody gives a flip about UCF out here.

Funny how people who've lived in a bubble their whole lives can't see past their front yards.

How many times do we have to tell you that Orlando is not a swamp. It’s the highest point on the peninsula.

I say that because I know it pisses you off. I loved my stays in Orlando.

(01-14-2021 10:27 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 10:18 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 07:39 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 07:13 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 06:18 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Pretty confident that schools, at least those outside the autonomous groups, will be moving their Olympic sports to a regional model in a couple years. Football and men's hoops will still be in conferences.

This is against NCAA rules.

They will change the rule. This is one of the recommendations made by the Knight Commission a few months ago and I think there are a lot of schools on board with this idea. Nobody wants to send their field hockey team 1,200 miles away when there are plenty of schools to play against relatively nearby.

I hope so because it’s a silly rule.

No its not.

It's a rule that keeps title IX feasible and no it won't be changed. For similar reasons the new rule that will likely pass about divisionless championship for football will have a minimum number of conference games and a minimum time frame to play every conference team. Not doing so opens the door for shenanigans. If you can't afford to send your field hockey team 1200 miles, maybe you shouldn't be in a conference with a team 1200 miles away. This rule also prevents the forever shuffle that will follow as people try and construct the best conference right now, this minute like this board and the realignment board enjoy doing.

I wish people would quit acting like college athletics are pro sports, there are all kinds of differences with the most obvious being the legal restraints, in particular title IX. You can't just pour all your money into football or men's basketball, you have to provide equal support to your women's programs.

Yes, it’s silly. Having different opponents for revenue and non-revenue sports does not cause title 9 problems. One could argue that the teams that would not be traveling as far have it better concerning study time.

(01-14-2021 12:11 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
I’m fairly sure ESPN has already let it be known they would ante up 14 million a year for the two extra teams—-likely because they have substantial interest in adding 18 potential late night starts (including the MW’s most valuable property) at the budget price of 14 million, around 25% of what it would have cost to buy the whole league. Plus it makes their wholly owned property more attractive by giving it a unique identity in college football as the sports only nationwide football conference.

That's very interesting.

I gather that this is fundamentally an inference based on Dodd's podcast suggesting that the 5-1-2 formula will be adopted, with the AAC having a nearly automatic bid, thus causing two teams (e.g., Boise & SDSU to move their FB programs to the AAC).

I'm guessing that, if ESPN is prepared to spend $14 million, they might be willing to take any two of these: Boise, SDSU, BYU (& maybe, Air Force).

.

If ESPN has put the word out to the schools it's interested in, the schools might spend some time reflecting on the possibilities, since it wouldn't necessarily be in their best interests to rule out the idea immediately. If so, it could be possible that we won't hear definitive anything on this front for months.

First off adding 2 schools leaves you in the same unbalanced place you are right now. If you add you do 1 or 3, not 2. Second there is no sign that Espn has said they will add anything to AAC deal.

(01-14-2021 11:39 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 11:26 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 10:24 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 11:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 06:21 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Your opinion is well intentioned but short on facts. While there isn’t any pro sports in the SJV it doesn’t matter. Pro is king here. No one really cares all that much for college that isn’t eight Oregon or USC.

Fresno is a big city but an awful city with poor travel options. There isn’t **** there, it’s akin to being California’s Lubbock.

I get that—but pro is King most EVERYWHERE. UNLV will be no different, likely more so with their own NFL team. As for Fresno being a poor destination—who cares? It’s a TV league. Treveling fans make up a minuscule part of crowds. We each rely on our own fans to fill stadiums and UNLV has none.

Fresno generally tends to field very competitive football teams winning the MW championship in 2012, 2013, and 2018. Frenso draws far more fans than UNLV—which is a decent proxy for relative interest in the two programs. Fresno sucked in 2019 (4-8) and still averaged over 31K a game in attendance. UNLV couldnt even break 20K in average attendance in 2019.

Bottom line is UNLV is the MW version UConn football....but without the fading P5 brand name. UNLV’s only value lies in basketball and we wouldn’t be getting that. UNLV does nothing to make the AAC more dominate with respect to the G5 slot—in fact, their crap football program would be an anchor dragging down our league performance relative to other leagues. From a performance standpoint, Literally any other team in the MW would make a better addition than UNLV.

That’s what I’m saying if it’s a tv league Fresno isn’t going to draw. I’d think getting in and out of Fresno would be something fans would be at least interested in. I also brought up pro sports as being king bc California and the West as a whole isn’t like the South. College football is an afterthought. Not popular.

It's an afterthought to you because you live in a swamp. I remember when my brother moved to San Diego from Chi. He said we're a day behind the rest of the country when it comes to news.

You get them in the Central and East time zones and every thing will change. You telling me nobody cares about Boise where I live. I can tell you nobody gives a flip about UCF out here.

Funny how people who've lived in a bubble their whole lives can't see past their front yards.

How many times do we have to tell you that Orlando is not a swamp. It’s the highest point on the peninsula.

That's like being the shortest midget. It's a swamp.

(01-15-2021 07:44 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 12:11 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
I’m fairly sure ESPN has already let it be known they would ante up 14 million a year for the two extra teams—-likely because they have substantial interest in adding 18 potential late night starts (including the MW’s most valuable property) at the budget price of 14 million, around 25% of what it would have cost to buy the whole league. Plus it makes their wholly owned property more attractive by giving it a unique identity in college football as the sports only nationwide football conference.

That's very interesting.

I gather that this is fundamentally an inference based on Dodd's podcast suggesting that the 5-1-2 formula will be adopted, with the AAC having a nearly automatic bid, thus causing two teams (e.g., Boise & SDSU to move their FB programs to the AAC).

I'm guessing that, if ESPN is prepared to spend $14 million, they might be willing to take any two of these: Boise, SDSU, BYU (& maybe, Air Force).

.

If ESPN has put the word out to the schools it's interested in, the schools might spend some time reflecting on the possibilities, since it wouldn't necessarily be in their best interests to rule out the idea immediately. If so, it could be possible that we won't hear definitive anything on this front for months.

Just a reminder, the AAC does not need 2 teams, in reality they don't need anyone at all.

... But if they were considering expansion I would think that it would be either one or three teams.

Edit: Didn't read post by @goodknightfl before sending this post... So yeah not 2!

(01-15-2021 07:30 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 10:27 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 10:18 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 07:39 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 07:13 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  This is against NCAA rules.

They will change the rule. This is one of the recommendations made by the Knight Commission a few months ago and I think there are a lot of schools on board with this idea. Nobody wants to send their field hockey team 1,200 miles away when there are plenty of schools to play against relatively nearby.

I hope so because it’s a silly rule.

No its not.

It's a rule that keeps title IX feasible and no it won't be changed. For similar reasons the new rule that will likely pass about divisionless championship for football will have a minimum number of conference games and a minimum time frame to play every conference team. Not doing so opens the door for shenanigans. If you can't afford to send your field hockey team 1200 miles, maybe you shouldn't be in a conference with a team 1200 miles away. This rule also prevents the forever shuffle that will follow as people try and construct the best conference right now, this minute like this board and the realignment board enjoy doing.

I wish people would quit acting like college athletics are pro sports, there are all kinds of differences with the most obvious being the legal restraints, in particular title IX. You can't just pour all your money into football or men's basketball, you have to provide equal support to your women's programs.

Yes, it’s silly. Having different opponents for revenue and non-revenue sports does not cause title 9 problems. One could argue that the teams that would not be traveling as far have it better concerning study time.

Of course it won't why would spending the extra money to send teams across country and have them stay overnight in hotels not cost extra resources? I mean you can build up the baseball team stadium and give them luxury boxes but your softball team can play in an empty field no biggie.

Title IX requires at least the appearence of equality. So when Oklahoma St spent a ton of money to upgrade facilities, they got in trouble and had to ensure they put an equal amount of effort and time into upgrading the women sports facilities which is why they just got a brand new softball complex. Putting your women's volleyball team on a bus to play schools within an hours drive while flying your men's basketball team to the east coast then west coast for conference games won't fly.

You all like to talk about football or basketball like they are independent pro sports clubs who share a name. They aren't they are gears in an overall athletic program.

The rumor of being more than one school moving might be due to Boise needing help placing non-fb in another league. SDSU is largely who got them into the BW last time. From there get three schools to even the divisions assuming ESPN bankrolls it enough.

I find it so odd that a Waco cubbie wishes to chime in over here. You'd think that they'd be just quietly grateful that they landed with extreme luck in the B12, knowing that they would have continued to be nothing without that silver spoon handed to them.

(01-15-2021 10:19 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 07:30 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 10:27 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 10:18 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 07:39 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  They will change the rule. This is one of the recommendations made by the Knight Commission a few months ago and I think there are a lot of schools on board with this idea. Nobody wants to send their field hockey team 1,200 miles away when there are plenty of schools to play against relatively nearby.

I hope so because it’s a silly rule.

No its not.

It's a rule that keeps title IX feasible and no it won't be changed. For similar reasons the new rule that will likely pass about divisionless championship for football will have a minimum number of conference games and a minimum time frame to play every conference team. Not doing so opens the door for shenanigans. If you can't afford to send your field hockey team 1200 miles, maybe you shouldn't be in a conference with a team 1200 miles away. This rule also prevents the forever shuffle that will follow as people try and construct the best conference right now, this minute like this board and the realignment board enjoy doing.

I wish people would quit acting like college athletics are pro sports, there are all kinds of differences with the most obvious being the legal restraints, in particular title IX. You can't just pour all your money into football or men's basketball, you have to provide equal support to your women's programs.

Yes, it’s silly. Having different opponents for revenue and non-revenue sports does not cause title 9 problems. One could argue that the teams that would not be traveling as far have it better concerning study time.

Of course it won't why would spending the extra money to send teams across country and have them stay overnight in hotels not cost extra resources? I mean you can build up the baseball team stadium and give them luxury boxes but your softball team can play in an empty field no biggie.

Title IX requires at least the appearence of equality. So when Oklahoma St spent a ton of money to upgrade facilities, they got in trouble and had to ensure they put an equal amount of effort and time into upgrading the women sports facilities which is why they just got a brand new softball complex. Putting your women's volleyball team on a bus to play schools within an hours drive while flying your men's basketball team to the east coast then west coast for conference games won't fly.

You all like to talk about football or basketball like they are independent pro sports clubs who share a name. They aren't they are gears in an overall athletic program.

Derp...Do you really think the Boise and SDSU softnall, golf, t &f teams want to travel to Wichita, Memphis, Houston, Cincinnati, and Tulsa when they could be playing conference games in Cali?

(01-15-2021 10:40 AM)CoogPaw Wrote:  I find it so odd that a Waco cubbie wishes to chime in over here. You'd think that they'd be just quietly grateful that they landed with extreme luck in the B12, knowing that they would have continued to be nothing without that silver spoon handed to them.

The random smack at my school aside, is it crazy to think I root for several of the AAC schools as a secondary rooting interest?

(01-15-2021 10:26 AM)1845 Bear Wrote:  The rumor of being more than one school moving might be due to Boise needing help placing non-fb in another league. SDSU is largely who got them into the BW last time. From there get three schools to even the divisions assuming ESPN bankrolls it enough.

Plus Boise knows that it won't be just 2 schools. It's either 1 or 3, they don't want 1.

(01-15-2021 11:42 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 10:26 AM)1845 Bear Wrote:  The rumor of being more than one school moving might be due to Boise needing help placing non-fb in another league. SDSU is largely who got them into the BW last time. From there get three schools to even the divisions assuming ESPN bankrolls it enough.

Plus Boise knows that it won't be just 2 schools. It's either 1 or 3, they don't want 1.

Then they need to lobby BYU to be part of that group of 3. I think Boise is being careful trying not to get BYU excited about the AAC without them being apart of it bc BYU could just say yes to the #12 spot and the AAC end the conversation.

(01-15-2021 12:16 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 11:42 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 10:26 AM)1845 Bear Wrote:  The rumor of being more than one school moving might be due to Boise needing help placing non-fb in another league. SDSU is largely who got them into the BW last time. From there get three schools to even the divisions assuming ESPN bankrolls it enough.

Plus Boise knows that it won't be just 2 schools. It's either 1 or 3, they don't want 1.

Then they need to lobby BYU to be part of that group of 3. I think Boise is being careful trying not to get BYU excited about the AAC without them being apart of it bc BYU could just say yes to the #12 spot and the AAC end the conversation.

BYU makes far more money as an independent with their own TV deal. The only thing that would make BYU consider a move to the AAC would be revenue closer to what they’re making now and an expanded playoff with an auto bid. Otherwise this scheme is a non-starter.

(01-15-2021 12:34 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:16 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 11:42 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 10:26 AM)1845 Bear Wrote:  The rumor of being more than one school moving might be due to Boise needing help placing non-fb in another league. SDSU is largely who got them into the BW last time. From there get three schools to even the divisions assuming ESPN bankrolls it enough.

Plus Boise knows that it won't be just 2 schools. It's either 1 or 3, they don't want 1.

Then they need to lobby BYU to be part of that group of 3. I think Boise is being careful trying not to get BYU excited about the AAC without them being apart of it bc BYU could just say yes to the #12 spot and the AAC end the conversation.

BYU makes far more money as an independent with their own TV deal. The only thing that would make BYU consider a move to the AAC would be revenue closer to what they’re making now and an expanded playoff with an auto bid. Otherwise this scheme is a non-starter.

our tv deal pays 7mil per,
according to foia in 2017 byu made 4.3mil from its tv deal that year...they just signed an extension and the amount is unknown, but its almost certainly less than than what we ar making...and that deal is short term and has no espn+ and espn has only shelled out huge deals that are long term and incorperate espn+ in some way (sec, big 12, aac etc.)

byu doesnt make far more money with their tv deal as an independant... you can argue they get better ticket sales playing an indy schedule but not from tv money

(01-15-2021 12:45 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:34 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:16 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 11:42 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 10:26 AM)1845 Bear Wrote:  The rumor of being more than one school moving might be due to Boise needing help placing non-fb in another league. SDSU is largely who got them into the BW last time. From there get three schools to even the divisions assuming ESPN bankrolls it enough.

Plus Boise knows that it won't be just 2 schools. It's either 1 or 3, they don't want 1.

Then they need to lobby BYU to be part of that group of 3. I think Boise is being careful trying not to get BYU excited about the AAC without them being apart of it bc BYU could just say yes to the #12 spot and the AAC end the conversation.

BYU makes far more money as an independent with their own TV deal. The only thing that would make BYU consider a move to the AAC would be revenue closer to what they’re making now and an expanded playoff with an auto bid. Otherwise this scheme is a non-starter.

our tv deal pays 7mil per,
according to foia in 2017 byu made 4.3mil from its tv deal that year...they just signed an extension and the amount is unknown, but its almost certainly less than than what we ar making...and that deal is short term and has no espn+ and espn has only shelled out huge deals that are long term and incorperate espn+ in some way (sec, big 12, aac etc.)

byu doesnt make far more money with their tv deal as an independant... you can argue they get better ticket sales playing an indy schedule but not from tv money

IIRC $7m was the average payout per year per school for the course of our tv deal but the deal is backloaded. Does anyone know what the year over year payout is going to be? I think towards the end its something like $15m?

(01-15-2021 12:45 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:34 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:16 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 11:42 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 10:26 AM)1845 Bear Wrote:  The rumor of being more than one school moving might be due to Boise needing help placing non-fb in another league. SDSU is largely who got them into the BW last time. From there get three schools to even the divisions assuming ESPN bankrolls it enough.

Plus Boise knows that it won't be just 2 schools. It's either 1 or 3, they don't want 1.

Then they need to lobby BYU to be part of that group of 3. I think Boise is being careful trying not to get BYU excited about the AAC without them being apart of it bc BYU could just say yes to the #12 spot and the AAC end the conversation.

BYU makes far more money as an independent with their own TV deal. The only thing that would make BYU consider a move to the AAC would be revenue closer to what they’re making now and an expanded playoff with an auto bid. Otherwise this scheme is a non-starter.

our tv deal pays 7mil per,
according to foia in 2017 byu made 4.3mil from its tv deal that year...they just signed an extension and the amount is unknown, but its almost certainly less than than what we ar making...and that deal is short term and has no espn+ and espn has only shelled out huge deals that are long term and incorperate espn+ in some way (sec, big 12, aac etc.)

byu doesnt make far more money with their tv deal as an independant... you can argue they get better ticket sales playing an indy schedule but not from tv money

Where are you getting that number? BYU isn’t beholden to FOIA as they’re a private institution. Here’s a link to their latest deal with no financials disclosed:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanquis...dependence

(01-15-2021 12:53 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:45 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:34 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:16 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 11:42 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Plus Boise knows that it won't be just 2 schools. It's either 1 or 3, they don't want 1.

Then they need to lobby BYU to be part of that group of 3. I think Boise is being careful trying not to get BYU excited about the AAC without them being apart of it bc BYU could just say yes to the #12 spot and the AAC end the conversation.

BYU makes far more money as an independent with their own TV deal. The only thing that would make BYU consider a move to the AAC would be revenue closer to what they’re making now and an expanded playoff with an auto bid. Otherwise this scheme is a non-starter.

our tv deal pays 7mil per,
according to foia in 2017 byu made 4.3mil from its tv deal that year...they just signed an extension and the amount is unknown, but its almost certainly less than than what we ar making...and that deal is short term and has no espn+ and espn has only shelled out huge deals that are long term and incorperate espn+ in some way (sec, big 12, aac etc.)

byu doesnt make far more money with their tv deal as an independant... you can argue they get better ticket sales playing an indy schedule but not from tv money

Where are you getting that number? BYU isn’t beholden to FOIA as they’re a private institution. Here’s a link to their latest deal with no financials disclosed:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanquis...dependence

the foia wasnt to byu but to the department of education, where byu reports its revenue
https://lawlessrepublic.com/2017/09/21/b...act-money/

(01-15-2021 01:00 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:53 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:45 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:34 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:16 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  Then they need to lobby BYU to be part of that group of 3. I think Boise is being careful trying not to get BYU excited about the AAC without them being apart of it bc BYU could just say yes to the #12 spot and the AAC end the conversation.

BYU makes far more money as an independent with their own TV deal. The only thing that would make BYU consider a move to the AAC would be revenue closer to what they’re making now and an expanded playoff with an auto bid. Otherwise this scheme is a non-starter.

our tv deal pays 7mil per,
according to foia in 2017 byu made 4.3mil from its tv deal that year...they just signed an extension and the amount is unknown, but its almost certainly less than than what we ar making...and that deal is short term and has no espn+ and espn has only shelled out huge deals that are long term and incorperate espn+ in some way (sec, big 12, aac etc.)

byu doesnt make far more money with their tv deal as an independant... you can argue they get better ticket sales playing an indy schedule but not from tv money

Where are you getting that number? BYU isn’t beholden to FOIA as they’re a private institution. Here’s a link to their latest deal with no financials disclosed:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanquis...dependence

the foia wasnt to byu but to the department of education, where boise reports its revenue
https://lawlessrepublic.com/2017/09/21/b...act-money/

Their deal is variable based on how many games are ABC/ESPN, slightly less pay for ESPN2, and less for ESPNU if I remember correctly.

I imagine those payouts are higher under the new deal as most deals have escalating payouts.