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(11-19-2020 07:04 PM)banker Wrote:  Funniest part - Trump most likely won the legit popular vote by near record setting margins when you figure all his minority gains.

03-lmfao

funniest part is that you actually believe it.
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Just to recap the Dem's slippery slope (and itsa gettin' sliperyer by the minute!)

(11-19-2020 05:27 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(11-19-2020 03:10 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(11-19-2020 01:18 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  So the reason they stopped the counting overnight was because the Smartmatic software couldn't account for how far ahead Trump was (800,000 votes).

Dirty F'ers.


Be sweet, sweet poetic justice if it’s their own fake suppression polls that eventually sink this second coup attempt (or is this #3?, can’t keep up).

Biden +17 in Wiscy. Bahahahahahaha

Did ANYONE really believe that?!? Only a fool would.


Dunk, let's review the Dem narrative the past few weeks, shall we? (I need a good laugher!)

1. Biden ahead by +16 to +18 in polls- will win in landslide;
2. Dems "projected" (remember that word!) to pick up as many as 30 extra seats in House; win Senate majority by many seats;
3. Hilliary sez: Never concede-no matter what!
4. Election night; Biden ahead, but election close due to angry Republicans lying to "honest pollstersDNC shills"
5. Need to stop counting for the night: vote counters tired, need sleep, water main breaks, "glitches" in computers, etc...waaaah! Observers can go home, doors will be "locked", but "Necessary Counting Work" continues through the night....hymmmm...
7. Valid Trump ballots "misplaced", "lost," etc...
8. Hundreds of thousands of Biden-prez-only "ballots" suddenly "found"--zero matching Trump-only ballots seen or reported;
9. Same M.O. across several states--Dems allege "mistakes", "glitches", "unimportant errors" as per usual; but somehow, almost all "errors" go Biden's way--Dems must have got religion: "It's a Miracle!"
10. Some poll watchers and other workers see extra ballots carted in by trashcanful--later willing to go on record and file affidavits that would put them in jail if they are lying--still file actions describing election wrongdoing and witnessed Fraud; Filings and afidavits are matter of public record--but somehow MSM fails to report them: mebbe they haz troubles with they journalisms?
11. Post election night: Biden coronated King by Dems; actual results be damned! Corrollary: Dems "Win" presidency but somehow not a single Republican lost their House Seat: Another Miracle! And Dems lose bigtime in House, where voters voted for every Republican, but somehow, voted against Trump for President! Another Miracle! Sweet Jesus, and Mother Mary!
12. Later: Dems say Zero election fraud- "it doesn't happen."
13. Dems say Zero dead people voting: "It doesn't happen."
13.5. President Trump increases his share of Black folks' vote by 50% over 2016; increases his share of Latino vote by 50% over 2016; gets 60% of Catholic Vote for first time since President Ford! Yet STILL somehow is declared by media to have lost the election! Another Miracle! Praise be to Sts. Peter AND Paul!
14 . Recounts and closer looks find...wait for it: Dead People Voting! All for Dems, no less! (How come dead people don't like Republicans? Another Miracle!)
15. Further investigation finds...FRAUD! Multiple instances! People willing to risk Jail time to report what they have seen so the world will know the Truth!
16. Biden wins a historic 99.9% of vote in one DeKalb County, GA district!(Major population county and eastern suburb of Atlanta.) Only seen twice in History of Planet Earth all elections: a) Kim Jong Il in North Korea b) Raul Castro in Cuba and now c) Biden in his Basement! Another Miracle!Ppraise be to allah! Like flipping a coin 86,000 times in a row and always coming up the same: happens every day--according to MSM! Rachael Maddcow demonstrates live on MSBS#!tbc by flipping coin 86,000 times, and getting 50-50. Then explains there is a "glitch" in the coin and the earth's gravity due to...global warming and CLIMATE CHANGE! AAAAAAGH!
17. Dems admit there was "Some Fraud" but that it is not big enough to change things; election results continue to tighten daily in key undecided States- States the MSM swears Bidpen won, and YOU CAN TRUST THEM because THEY'RE NEVER WRONG!
18. Dems pivot again and say even if there is enough fraud to flip States to President Trump, there's not enough TIME to prove it in Court because YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW! (they're sooo concerned about being honest and law-abiding, you know!)


Upcoming Scenes from next episodes (not necessarily in order) STAY TUNED! :

19. When States start flipping, Dems and MSM will claim they are "STOLEN" from them, even though they were NEVER belonging to Dems (or to the MSM) in first place.
20. Dems will start referring to the LAW that election "results" MUST Stand! EVEN if they are Blatantly Fraudulent--they are concerned about the LAW after all!
21. Dems may also lose one or both GA Senate runoffs before the runoff due to Legal Votes being Found that were not counted at all (already factually happening in multiple jurisdictions) or were '"inadvertently counted for the other candidate" (the Dems) oops!
22. Dems may lose more House seats as verified voters ballots are counted and unverified, illegal votes are legally thrown out according to the Law! (some judges actually grow spines in process- Film at 11!) Already happening in States like Michigan! PA! Soon in WI!
23. President Trump gives a repeat of his famous speech from 2016: "Sorry. Took a while. Complicated business!"
24. Trump 2020 Keeps America Great by Making America gGeat Again AGAIN! US Constitution and citizens of America WIN! Dems lose and plot revenge by rioting, after no such actions by Reps when they were supposedly "down."
25. Most of America wakes up and exits Dem party. New era of American prosperity begins!
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(11-19-2020 02:21 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(11-19-2020 02:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-19-2020 02:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Karl Rove is saying the charges that Rudy and Powell made are extremely serious, but that the legal team has been late, lacking proof, and losing so far in court.

To be fair, I doubt Karl has any clue what they have. Given the death threats, you wont have a witness left if you expose the witness's to the public where the crazies can get involved.

Rove is unfortunately biased as his "guys" lost the primary in 2016 to trump. not sure his butt-hurt has healed enough to trust him. More like Swampity Swamp sez it's over, even though it is far from decided.

That's odd. I have watched Rove multiple times a week on Fox for 4 years, and he has been 100% supportive of Trump the whole time, afaik.

Today, he was reacting to Rudy's presser, nothing more or less. That's all he can react to.

And McCarthy said practically the same thing today, too. Do you guys not trust McCarthy, either? Come on...
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(11-20-2020 01:27 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-19-2020 02:21 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(11-19-2020 02:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-19-2020 02:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Karl Rove is saying the charges that Rudy and Powell made are extremely serious, but that the legal team has been late, lacking proof, and losing so far in court.

To be fair, I doubt Karl has any clue what they have. Given the death threats, you wont have a witness left if you expose the witness's to the public where the crazies can get involved.

Rove is unfortunately biased as his "guys" lost the primary in 2016 to trump. not sure his butt-hurt has healed enough to trust him. More like Swampity Swamp sez it's over, even though it is far from decided.

That's odd. I have watched Rove multiple times a week on Fox for 4 years, and he has been 100% supportive of Trump the whole time, afaik.

Today, he was reacting to Rudy's presser, nothing more or less. That's all he can react to.

And McCarthy said practically the same thing today, too. Do you guys not trust McCarthy, either? Come on...

If you watched the press conference then you know that Rudy, Sidney, etc. have a lot of evidence. I seriously doubt that either Rove or McCarthy know the full extent of the evidence since they are like us - on the outside looking in. It's not a question of trust or belief. Everyone has an opinion.
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(11-20-2020 01:42 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(11-20-2020 01:27 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-19-2020 02:21 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  
(11-19-2020 02:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-19-2020 02:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Karl Rove is saying the charges that Rudy and Powell made are extremely serious, but that the legal team has been late, lacking proof, and losing so far in court.

To be fair, I doubt Karl has any clue what they have. Given the death threats, you wont have a witness left if you expose the witness's to the public where the crazies can get involved.

Rove is unfortunately biased as his "guys" lost the primary in 2016 to trump. not sure his butt-hurt has healed enough to trust him. More like Swampity Swamp sez it's over, even though it is far from decided.

That's odd. I have watched Rove multiple times a week on Fox for 4 years, and he has been 100% supportive of Trump the whole time, afaik.

Today, he was reacting to Rudy's presser, nothing more or less. That's all he can react to.

And McCarthy said practically the same thing today, too. Do you guys not trust McCarthy, either? Come on...

If you watched the press conference then you know that Rudy, Sidney, etc. have a lot of evidence. I seriously doubt that either Rove or McCarthy know the full extent of the evidence since they are like us - on the outside looking in. It's not a question of trust or belief. Everyone has an opinion.

That isn't the point either one made. Their arguments are fact based, not opinions.

They both said the issue is they're running out of time, it's a different complicated process in each state, and they have to have specific evidence that throws out enough votes to turn several states around.

Affadavits that simply state they saw fraud take place aren't good enough if you can't tie a large number of specific votes to each allegation, b/c courts aren't about to throw out a whole batch of both good and bad votes.

All that is true, regardless of what evidence they have.

And even Rudy said today that once the ballots are opened and counted, you can't tell the legit votes from the illegitimate ones.

Here's an example. Let's say somebody swore an affadavit saying they saw people toting in boxloads of votes from a truck, and that it seemed like most were for Biden. How many votes? Which ones? If you can't answer and prove those two things, you're pissing up a rope.

And the rope is getting short.
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Once the ballots are in, it's too late to do much of anything. The problem is the lack of controls over the process on the front end.

It's like having audit controls to tell you that someone has been embezzling millions. Once the money is gone, there is little can be done.
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(11-19-2020 06:15 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(11-19-2020 03:05 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(11-19-2020 01:56 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Some courts even specify different ways to STAPLE documents when filing...I'm not kidding. Any of you ever ACTUALLY READ the RULES of even ONE COURT (which is different form the various statutes, by the way, which also need to be followed to prevail), let alone 100 different courts at different levels? I doubt many of you have, unless you are lawyers, and then it is likely you let your staff figure it out. Now for those who ARE lawyers, how many times have you filed documents with multiple errors (scrivener's or otherwise) then had to amend when pointed out or caught, and how many of those errors pass through to cases as adjudicated.
I can vouch for this!! Particularly Texas.... I've had legal secretaries on the phone in tears because they had to start ALL over, because someone stapled one of their documents wrong, and since it now had hole punches from where the staples were removed.... the document was worthless.

Texas is one of the worst.

You think Texas is one of the worst? At least all of their courts are able to efile now. Michigan is worse than Texas by far. Not all of the courts do efiling, and if they do, they use different third party vendors.
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I think Trump is toast in this election. What I believe they are doing is setting the stage to prevent this type of fraud in future elections. And at a minimum I am thankful for that.

Everyone should want fair and secure elections.
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(11-20-2020 09:05 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  I think Trump is toast in this election. What I believe they are doing is setting the stage to prevent this type of fraud in future elections. And at a minimum I am thankful for that.

Everyone should want fair and secure elections.

What type of fraud?

YOU. HAVEN'T. SHOWN. ANY!
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(11-20-2020 09:05 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  I think Trump is toast in this election. What I believe they are doing is setting the stage to prevent this type of fraud in future elections. And at a minimum I am thankful for that.

Everyone should want fair and secure elections.

I agree. They are going through this exercise for the future of the elections.

We can only hope that this strengthens our election process in the future.
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(11-20-2020 09:10 AM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  
(11-20-2020 09:05 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  I think Trump is toast in this election. What I believe they are doing is setting the stage to prevent this type of fraud in future elections. And at a minimum I am thankful for that.

Everyone should want fair and secure elections.

I agree. They are going through this exercise for the future of the elections.

We can only hope that this strengthens our election process in the future.

You do realize these exercises aren't finding any fraud, right?
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Womp...womp!

Quote:GROWING CONCERN ABOUT TRUMP LEGAL FIGHT: Thursday's news conference by Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis marked a turning point of sorts in the way some Republicans view the president's challenge to election results around the country. Among those Republicans -- Trump supporters all -- there is concern that the attorneys' sensational theories of election fraud are hurting the president's cause rather than helping it.

Most worrisome was Powell's presentation. The lawyer -- who had earned the admiration of many for her bold and determined representation of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn -- told reporters that Joe Biden's wins in some key states was the result of "the massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba, and likely China in the interference with our elections here in the United States." The Dominion voting system and Smartmatic software used in the interference, Powell continued, was "created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez" to corrupt elections there. "President Trump won by a landslide," Powell concluded. "We are going to prove it."

But Powell did not prove it. She did not even allege with any specificity what she believes actually happened in the election. Powell said the Venezuelan software has the "ability to flip votes" and "can set and run an algorithm that probably ran all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from President Trump and flip them to President [sic] Biden, which we might never have uncovered had the votes for President Trump not been so overwhelming in so many of these states that it broke the algorithm that had been plugged into the system, and that's what caused them to have to shut down in the states they shut down in."

But Powell offered nothing to prove what she said happened. Her case appeared to be that it could have happened. Nor has Powell or the rest of the Trump team filed a lawsuit alleging that it actually occurred. In an interview Thursday night with Fox Business Network's Lou Dobbs, Powell said the Trump team is "still in the process of collecting evidence. It's coming in in massive amounts...I would think we would have fraud complaints ready sometime by late next week at the latest."

A few hours later, Fox News' Tucker Carlson said that he had invited Powell to be on his program. "We would have given her the whole hour," Carlson said. "But she never sent us any evidence, despite a lot of requests, polite requests. Not a page.
Byron York's Daily Memo: Growing concern about Trump legal fight
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(11-20-2020 09:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Womp...womp!

Quote:GROWING CONCERN ABOUT TRUMP LEGAL FIGHT: Thursday's news conference by Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis marked a turning point of sorts in the way some Republicans view the president's challenge to election results around the country. Among those Republicans -- Trump supporters all -- there is concern that the attorneys' sensational theories of election fraud are hurting the president's cause rather than helping it.

Most worrisome was Powell's presentation. The lawyer -- who had earned the admiration of many for her bold and determined representation of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn -- told reporters that Joe Biden's wins in some key states was the result of "the massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba, and likely China in the interference with our elections here in the United States." The Dominion voting system and Smartmatic software used in the interference, Powell continued, was "created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez" to corrupt elections there. "President Trump won by a landslide," Powell concluded. "We are going to prove it."

But Powell did not prove it. She did not even allege with any specificity what she believes actually happened in the election. Powell said the Venezuelan software has the "ability to flip votes" and "can set and run an algorithm that probably ran all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from President Trump and flip them to President [sic] Biden, which we might never have uncovered had the votes for President Trump not been so overwhelming in so many of these states that it broke the algorithm that had been plugged into the system, and that's what caused them to have to shut down in the states they shut down in."

But Powell offered nothing to prove what she said happened. Her case appeared to be that it could have happened. Nor has Powell or the rest of the Trump team filed a lawsuit alleging that it actually occurred. In an interview Thursday night with Fox Business Network's Lou Dobbs, Powell said the Trump team is "still in the process of collecting evidence. It's coming in in massive amounts...I would think we would have fraud complaints ready sometime by late next week at the latest."

A few hours later, Fox News' Tucker Carlson said that he had invited Powell to be on his program. "We would have given her the whole hour," Carlson said. "But she never sent us any evidence, despite a lot of requests, polite requests. Not a page.
Byron York's Daily Memo: Growing concern about Trump legal fight

I think skepticism is warranted.

There is no reason to pass judgement until they either don't file in court or the evidence is presented publicly.

Attacking them now might prove very counter-productive. It might even bolster a weak case to the point of popular acceptance.
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Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis unloads on media during fiery news conference: 'Your opinion doesn't matter'

Quote:“What you have heard, in the fake newspapers tomorrow will be one of two things. Either there was not sufficient evidence that we presented, or we spoke too long,” Ellis said. “What you’ve heard now is basically an opening statement. This is what you can expect to see when we get to court to actually have a full trial on the merit, to actually show this evidence in court and prove our case. This is not a ‘Law & Order’ episode where everything is neatly wrapped up in 60 minutes.”

Patience is a virtue...
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(11-20-2020 09:20 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(11-20-2020 09:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Womp...womp!

Quote:GROWING CONCERN ABOUT TRUMP LEGAL FIGHT: Thursday's news conference by Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis marked a turning point of sorts in the way some Republicans view the president's challenge to election results around the country. Among those Republicans -- Trump supporters all -- there is concern that the attorneys' sensational theories of election fraud are hurting the president's cause rather than helping it.

Most worrisome was Powell's presentation. The lawyer -- who had earned the admiration of many for her bold and determined representation of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn -- told reporters that Joe Biden's wins in some key states was the result of "the massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba, and likely China in the interference with our elections here in the United States." The Dominion voting system and Smartmatic software used in the interference, Powell continued, was "created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez" to corrupt elections there. "President Trump won by a landslide," Powell concluded. "We are going to prove it."

But Powell did not prove it. She did not even allege with any specificity what she believes actually happened in the election. Powell said the Venezuelan software has the "ability to flip votes" and "can set and run an algorithm that probably ran all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from President Trump and flip them to President [sic] Biden, which we might never have uncovered had the votes for President Trump not been so overwhelming in so many of these states that it broke the algorithm that had been plugged into the system, and that's what caused them to have to shut down in the states they shut down in."

But Powell offered nothing to prove what she said happened. Her case appeared to be that it could have happened. Nor has Powell or the rest of the Trump team filed a lawsuit alleging that it actually occurred. In an interview Thursday night with Fox Business Network's Lou Dobbs, Powell said the Trump team is "still in the process of collecting evidence. It's coming in in massive amounts...I would think we would have fraud complaints ready sometime by late next week at the latest."

A few hours later, Fox News' Tucker Carlson said that he had invited Powell to be on his program. "We would have given her the whole hour," Carlson said. "But she never sent us any evidence, despite a lot of requests, polite requests. Not a page.
Byron York's Daily Memo: Growing concern about Trump legal fight

I think skepticism is warranted.

There is no reason to pass judgement until they either don't file in court or the evidence is presented publicly.

Attacking them now might prove very counter-productive. It might even bolster a weak case to the point of popular acceptance.

I'll put this politely, You're being used. Used to sow doubt in a free and fair election with the sole purpose of delegitimizing the incoming administration.

It's the same thing you guys claimed with Russia Russia Russia.

Wake up and smell the coffee. 07-coffee3

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(11-20-2020 09:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-20-2020 09:20 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(11-20-2020 09:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Womp...womp!

Quote:GROWING CONCERN ABOUT TRUMP LEGAL FIGHT: Thursday's news conference by Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis marked a turning point of sorts in the way some Republicans view the president's challenge to election results around the country. Among those Republicans -- Trump supporters all -- there is concern that the attorneys' sensational theories of election fraud are hurting the president's cause rather than helping it.

Most worrisome was Powell's presentation. The lawyer -- who had earned the admiration of many for her bold and determined representation of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn -- told reporters that Joe Biden's wins in some key states was the result of "the massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba, and likely China in the interference with our elections here in the United States." The Dominion voting system and Smartmatic software used in the interference, Powell continued, was "created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez" to corrupt elections there. "President Trump won by a landslide," Powell concluded. "We are going to prove it."

But Powell did not prove it. She did not even allege with any specificity what she believes actually happened in the election. Powell said the Venezuelan software has the "ability to flip votes" and "can set and run an algorithm that probably ran all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from President Trump and flip them to President [sic] Biden, which we might never have uncovered had the votes for President Trump not been so overwhelming in so many of these states that it broke the algorithm that had been plugged into the system, and that's what caused them to have to shut down in the states they shut down in."

But Powell offered nothing to prove what she said happened. Her case appeared to be that it could have happened. Nor has Powell or the rest of the Trump team filed a lawsuit alleging that it actually occurred. In an interview Thursday night with Fox Business Network's Lou Dobbs, Powell said the Trump team is "still in the process of collecting evidence. It's coming in in massive amounts...I would think we would have fraud complaints ready sometime by late next week at the latest."

A few hours later, Fox News' Tucker Carlson said that he had invited Powell to be on his program. "We would have given her the whole hour," Carlson said. "But she never sent us any evidence, despite a lot of requests, polite requests. Not a page.
Byron York's Daily Memo: Growing concern about Trump legal fight

I think skepticism is warranted.

There is no reason to pass judgement until they either don't file in court or the evidence is presented publicly.

Attacking them now might prove very counter-productive. It might even bolster a weak case to the point of popular acceptance.

I'll put this politely, You're being used. Used to sow doubt in a free and fair election with the sole purpose of delegitimizing the incoming administration.

It's the same thing you guys claimed with Russia Russia Russia.

Wake up and smell the coffee. 07-coffee3

They. Have. Squat!

They have the statistics. Some of them are quite damning. I have no idea what else they have.

I'll put it this way. The kind of stats they have would have any corporate accountant escorted from the premises.
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They said some precincts had up to 300% of their registered voters vote. Whatever evidence they have, it will be shown soon enough. I just don't think it will be in time. But again it sets the stage for the next election.
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(11-20-2020 09:36 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  They said some precincts had up to 300% of their registered voters vote. Whatever evidence they have, it will be shown soon enough. I just don't think it will be in time. But again it sets the stage for the next election.

What state and what county had this?

They tried saying this about WI right after the election and it was complete BS and the source was a propaganda network built to influence the election by looking like a local paper.

Michigan has turnout by precinct and county on their site, so if MI should be easy to verify. WI let’s you download it as an excel.
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(11-20-2020 09:28 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(11-20-2020 09:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-20-2020 09:20 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(11-20-2020 09:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Womp...womp!

Quote:GROWING CONCERN ABOUT TRUMP LEGAL FIGHT: Thursday's news conference by Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis marked a turning point of sorts in the way some Republicans view the president's challenge to election results around the country. Among those Republicans -- Trump supporters all -- there is concern that the attorneys' sensational theories of election fraud are hurting the president's cause rather than helping it.

Most worrisome was Powell's presentation. The lawyer -- who had earned the admiration of many for her bold and determined representation of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn -- told reporters that Joe Biden's wins in some key states was the result of "the massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba, and likely China in the interference with our elections here in the United States." The Dominion voting system and Smartmatic software used in the interference, Powell continued, was "created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez" to corrupt elections there. "President Trump won by a landslide," Powell concluded. "We are going to prove it."

But Powell did not prove it. She did not even allege with any specificity what she believes actually happened in the election. Powell said the Venezuelan software has the "ability to flip votes" and "can set and run an algorithm that probably ran all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from President Trump and flip them to President [sic] Biden, which we might never have uncovered had the votes for President Trump not been so overwhelming in so many of these states that it broke the algorithm that had been plugged into the system, and that's what caused them to have to shut down in the states they shut down in."

But Powell offered nothing to prove what she said happened. Her case appeared to be that it could have happened. Nor has Powell or the rest of the Trump team filed a lawsuit alleging that it actually occurred. In an interview Thursday night with Fox Business Network's Lou Dobbs, Powell said the Trump team is "still in the process of collecting evidence. It's coming in in massive amounts...I would think we would have fraud complaints ready sometime by late next week at the latest."

A few hours later, Fox News' Tucker Carlson said that he had invited Powell to be on his program. "We would have given her the whole hour," Carlson said. "But she never sent us any evidence, despite a lot of requests, polite requests. Not a page.
Byron York's Daily Memo: Growing concern about Trump legal fight

I think skepticism is warranted.

There is no reason to pass judgement until they either don't file in court or the evidence is presented publicly.

Attacking them now might prove very counter-productive. It might even bolster a weak case to the point of popular acceptance.

I'll put this politely, You're being used. Used to sow doubt in a free and fair election with the sole purpose of delegitimizing the incoming administration.

It's the same thing you guys claimed with Russia Russia Russia.

Wake up and smell the coffee. 07-coffee3

They. Have. Squat!

They have the statistics. Some of them are quite damning. I have no idea what else they have.

I'll put it this way. The kind of stats they have would have any corporate accountant escorted from the premises.

They have this...

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Trace showing when the software intervened after the algorithm had run long enough and the AI learned what correction factor to apply. That is when the curve goes linear in vote swapping for Biden.

It worked in Georgia.

Same software was in place in MI and WI but the software couldn't solve the massive lead Trump had. Hence physical ballot vote dumps needed.

The ballots delivered to the TCF Center in Detroit had only circles darkened for Biden. No other votes down ballot.

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(11-20-2020 09:05 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  I think Trump is toast in this election. What I believe they are doing is setting the stage to prevent this type of fraud in future elections. And at a minimum I am thankful for that.

Everyone should want fair and secure elections.

I wouldn't disagree with this assessment. In fact, I hope names are named as well. This crap has been going on for far too long and it needs to stop.

One would think a New York City mayor like Giuliani would know how the machine works and is able to expose it. Just Blago has exposed how it works in Chicago, it's all very similar tactics. Time to blow it all up and shine the light on the cockroaches.

EXPOSE. THEM. ALL.
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