(09-23-2020 07:45 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  Covid is over?? LOL.
People got Covid yesterday and they will get it today, and tomorrow...
This fall is going as bad as it is now and even worse now that more people are going to be gathering indoors.
Is it pessimism? No, it's realism.

chicken littles.

while covid is not over and has been a terrible tragedy the current status is "over"blown and agenda driven

-deaths are way down
-cases are down, despite what you hear or they report. the data and reporting is not good
- the vast majority of cases are occurring the with the young and they are having very little health impact
- i have buddies with kids in college. they talk as if every college kid has had it and the worst of it are cold like symptoms, most have no symptoms. some have lost taste, but it comes back in a week. 80% of the lsu football team had covid with no issues
- the cure is becoming worse than the disease

this is going to be around for a while. as been said a million times, protect the vulnerable while the rest move on....

I am glad to hear jmu is re-opening. you get through the initial surge and then you reach a steady state

Sports Business Journal @sbjsbd

The #NCAA's Division I BOD has approved a plan to move all fall sports championships to spring of 2021, with tournament brackets only expected to be "filled at 75% of the normal capacity," per @analisbailey of @USATODAY.

Pretty much expected, but being made official I guess. MSOC, WSOC, VolleyDukes, etc.

(09-23-2020 08:23 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  

(09-23-2020 08:18 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Who is locked down? No one is locked down.

if your kid isnt going to school in person, you are locked down

Interesting perspective. I view a lockdown as not being allowed to go where you want to.

I think lockdown is a bit much to describe the childcare/work dilemma.

Newsweek: "Five States Where Coronavirus Deaths (per capita) Are Rising Fastest"...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/five-s...li=BBorjTa

They are Missouri, Virginia, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Hawaii.

A few interesting graphs towards the bottom for broader picture views.

Nothing new necessarily, though I didn't know Virginia was now making the top 5 per capita rising in deaths.

(09-23-2020 02:03 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Newsweek: "Five States Where Coronavirus Deaths (per capita) Are Rising Fastest"...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/five-s...li=BBorjTa

They are Missouri, Virginia, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Hawaii.

A few interesting graphs towards the bottom for broader picture views.

Nothing new necessarily, though I didn't know Virginia was now making the top 5 per capita rising in deaths.

Ironically ND and SD went up dramatically about a month ago. Go figure....

Palm Beach County where I coach opened up to in person learning this past Monday. Students/parents have a choice whether to go back in person or continue to learn at home. Fall sports teams started practicing this past Monday on campus. Palm Beach County, Broward County and Miami Dade County have opted out of the FHSAA for fall sports so no State Championship eligibility for public schools in these counties. They will play contests within each county and may have some type of South Florida playoffs and championship. They will be starting games in mid to late October. We have been training our fall cross country athletes and my spring track athletes under an AAU club team at various local parks. I train my track & field athletes separately from the larger cross country group and use 8-10 foot gapping at practices. They have to bring their own workout mats and water. We have been doing this for a couple of months and it has worked out well so far. I think it has given the kids a sense of normalcy.

Kudos to you sprinter. We tried to implement a similar setup for marching band outdoors this August. Stand still playing outdoors only. LOTS of space between kids. A myriad of precautions to include mask-wearing. Local government will let kids sit at desks within 2 feet of each other 5 days a week, but our plan was “too risky”. I totally agree that those wanting to should have access to those type of activities.

(09-23-2020 02:03 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Newsweek: "Five States Where Coronavirus Deaths (per capita) Are Rising Fastest"...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/five-s...li=BBorjTa

They are Missouri, Virginia, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Hawaii.

A few interesting graphs towards the bottom for broader picture views.

Nothing new necessarily, though I didn't know Virginia was now making the top 5 per capita rising in deaths.

data pulled from World-o-meter?? this analysis is worthless. the date of reporting death has no correlation to actual date of death. many times occuring 30-40 days previously. an increase in deaths last and this week as reported by worldometer says little about what is actually happening.

(09-23-2020 02:03 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Newsweek: "Five States Where Coronavirus Deaths (per capita) Are Rising Fastest"...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/five-s...li=BBorjTa

They are Missouri, Virginia, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Hawaii.

A few interesting graphs towards the bottom for broader picture views.

Nothing new necessarily, though I didn't know Virginia was now making the top 5 per capita rising in deaths.

Oh, you missed the memo, my dude. Wouldn't worry about any of this.

(09-23-2020 02:49 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Kudos to you sprinter. We tried to implement a similar setup for marching band outdoors this August. Stand still playing outdoors only. LOTS of space between kids. A myriad of precautions to include mask-wearing. Local government will let kids sit at desks within 2 feet of each other 5 days a week, but our plan was “too risky”. I totally agree that those wanting to should have access to those type of activities.

Supposedly risk of contracting outdoors is much less and I make sure the gapping is more than recommended and that they are not running "one after the other" in a line to cut down on breathing another athlete's exhales. It's a shame they wouldn't let your plan go through. Sounds pretty safe to me.

(09-23-2020 02:50 PM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  

(09-23-2020 02:03 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Newsweek: "Five States Where Coronavirus Deaths (per capita) Are Rising Fastest"...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/five-s...li=BBorjTa

They are Missouri, Virginia, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Hawaii.

A few interesting graphs towards the bottom for broader picture views.

Nothing new necessarily, though I didn't know Virginia was now making the top 5 per capita rising in deaths.

data pulled from World-o-meter?? this analysis is worthless. the date of reporting death has no correlation to actual date of death. many times occuring 30-40 days previously. an increase in deaths last and this week as reported by worldometer says little about what is actually happening.

This is information from John's Hopkins

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/...-guide-box


In the past week in the U.S....
New daily reported cases rose 12%
New daily reported deaths rose 31.6%
Covid-related hospitalizations fell 2.6% Read more
Among reported tests, the positivity rate was 5.4%.

The number of tests reported rose 21.8% from the previous week.

Yeah, I feel most sorry for the students. Honestly, this is my first fall without marching band since 1997, so it’s nice to have a break. But just like HS sports, the kids only get 4 seasons; it really sucks for them.

(09-23-2020 03:01 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Yeah, I feel most sorry for the students. Honestly, this is my first fall without marching band since 1997, so it’s nice to have a break. But just like HS sports, the kids only get 4 seasons; it really sucks for them.

So many things to wonder...

I wonder if a year off from Band, Athletics, etc. will lead to a lower participation rate for the next few years even if there is a post covid?

(09-23-2020 03:01 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Yeah, I feel most sorry for the students. Honestly, this is my first fall without marching band since 1997, so it’s nice to have a break. But just like HS sports, the kids only get 4 seasons; it really sucks for them.

Ya, I had a junior girl who is a hurdler/sprinter who was ready for a big breakout season last spring but we got shut down mid-season before our "peaking period" so she never hit the times she needed to get recognized to run in college. She was just about ready to transition from 4 stepping to 3 stepping the 100m hurdles (taking 3 steps between each hurdle) which would knock her time down by 1-1.5 seconds, when the season ended. She was also just running the open 400 meters the first few meets to improve her speed over the 300m hurdles and never got to run the 300 hurdles (was going to run them in the next meet). She is the school record holder and state qualifier in the 300's but she needed to knock about 2 more seconds off. Being a senior now I am still trying to push her to some schools (including JMU) sighting her potential but it is going to be a tough sell based on what she might have done or will do next spring. I have other senior athletes in a similar predicament.

(09-23-2020 03:03 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(09-23-2020 03:01 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Yeah, I feel most sorry for the students. Honestly, this is my first fall without marching band since 1997, so it’s nice to have a break. But just like HS sports, the kids only get 4 seasons; it really sucks for them.

So many things to wonder...

I wonder if a year off from Band, Athletics, etc. will lead to a lower participation rate for the next few years even if there is a post covid?

That's one reason I am trying to keep the athletes engaged. There are so many things for kids to do these days so they could just go on to something else. We only meet 2 or 3 days a week and they workout on their own 1 or 2 days so they stay engaged but don't feel like it's the normal 5 days a week (6 counting weekend meets) that we have during the season.

(09-23-2020 03:01 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Yeah, I feel most sorry for the students. Honestly, this is my first fall without marching band since 1997, so it’s nice to have a break. But just like HS sports, the kids only get 4 seasons; it really sucks for them.

Not specific to band or any particular sport but I think the absence of HS extra-curricular activities will lead to a spike/increase in dropout rates as these extra-curriculars are what keep some kids engaged and active on the academic side.

(09-23-2020 03:22 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(09-23-2020 03:01 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Yeah, I feel most sorry for the students. Honestly, this is my first fall without marching band since 1997, so it’s nice to have a break. But just like HS sports, the kids only get 4 seasons; it really sucks for them.

Not specific to band or any particular sport but I think the absence of HS extra-curricular activities will lead to a spike/increase in dropout rates as these extra-curriculars are what keep some kids engaged and active on the academic side.

Great point. The school that I coach at is highly ranked academically but there are some at risk students that are bussed in and a high % of them do sports. Not sure how they are handling that now but am thinking that those busses may have started Monday for the in person classes and for fall sports which both started Monday.

(09-23-2020 03:00 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(09-23-2020 02:50 PM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  

(09-23-2020 02:03 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Newsweek: "Five States Where Coronavirus Deaths (per capita) Are Rising Fastest"...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/five-s...li=BBorjTa

They are Missouri, Virginia, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Hawaii.

A few interesting graphs towards the bottom for broader picture views.

Nothing new necessarily, though I didn't know Virginia was now making the top 5 per capita rising in deaths.

data pulled from World-o-meter?? this analysis is worthless. the date of reporting death has no correlation to actual date of death. many times occuring 30-40 days previously. an increase in deaths last and this week as reported by worldometer says little about what is actually happening.

This is information from John's Hopkins

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/...-guide-box


In the past week in the U.S....
New daily reported cases rose 12%
New daily reported deaths rose 31.6%
Covid-related hospitalizations fell 2.6% Read more
Among reported tests, the positivity rate was 5.4%.

The number of tests reported rose 21.8% from the previous week.

too much to address in the numbers, however;

1. world-o-meter and JHU are the same numbers

2. this past week, followed the week of labor day. testing was down labor day week due to the holiday so the cases were natuarally down. as your own numbers show, testing increased 21% this past week, so cases jumped. when this past week is compared to the week prior to labor day, cases are actually slightly down from the first week in september.

3. the deaths cited in the daily death numbers are on average 45 days old. so any surge in deaths is not reflective of what is happening now.

Bottom line. the numbers reported do not accurately reflect the current state of the pandemic and require deeper analysis.

(09-24-2020 07:43 AM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  3. the deaths cited in the daily death numbers are on average 45 days old. so any surge in deaths is not reflective of what is happening now.

I'm not telling you that you're wrong, but I sure would like some additional info on this as it seems awfully strange to me.

Joe dies on 9/24. If death numbers are on average 45 days old, why would that be marked as a COVID death for 11/8 if the death date is obviously not a moving target?

Please show your sources that this is how the timing of deaths is being recorded.