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(09-17-2020 07:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  IUPUC is eying at adding sports and joining NAIA.
I am from Columbus and I always thought this possible. Where did you read this?
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(09-18-2020 12:05 PM)otis campbell Wrote:  
(09-17-2020 07:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  IUPUC is eying at adding sports and joining NAIA.
I am from Columbus and I always thought this possible. Where did you read this?

I mentioned it on my site, based on this:

https://www.iupuc.edu/about/administrati...inutes.pdf

DavidST is a member there too.
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The NAIA introduced a summer membership application period this year, and it attracted 3 applicants. No surprises, they were 3 we already knew about:

https://www.victorysportsnetwork.com/Cli...utions.htm

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(09-18-2020 12:15 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(09-18-2020 12:05 PM)otis campbell Wrote:  
(09-17-2020 07:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  IUPUC is eying at adding sports and joining NAIA.
I am from Columbus and I always thought this possible. Where did you read this?

I mentioned it on my site, based on this:

https://www.iupuc.edu/about/administrati...inutes.pdf

DavidST is a member there too.

Someone asked where my site was but he has his private messaging disabled, so I put it into my signature. I actually thought it was there already.
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Quote:On October 1, the NAIA expects five additional institutions to complete applications for admission.

Who might those be? IUPUC? Ohio Valley, perhaps? Who else?
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(09-18-2020 05:06 PM)Inkblot Wrote:  
Quote:On October 1, the NAIA expects five additional institutions to complete applications for admission.

Who might those be? IUPUC? Ohio Valley, perhaps? Who else?

There's been no official announcements, feel free to speculate. I keep wondering what's going to happen to Chaney.
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(09-18-2020 12:15 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(09-18-2020 12:05 PM)otis campbell Wrote:  
(09-17-2020 07:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  IUPUC is eying at adding sports and joining NAIA.
I am from Columbus and I always thought this possible. Where did you read this?

I mentioned it on my site, based on this:

https://www.iupuc.edu/about/administrati...inutes.pdf

DavidST is a member there too.

Damn, DavidSt is fricken everywhere on the internet.
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(09-18-2020 07:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(09-18-2020 12:15 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(09-18-2020 12:05 PM)otis campbell Wrote:  
(09-17-2020 07:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  IUPUC is eying at adding sports and joining NAIA.
I am from Columbus and I always thought this possible. Where did you read this?

I mentioned it on my site, based on this:

https://www.iupuc.edu/about/administrati...inutes.pdf

DavidST is a member there too.

Damn, DavidSt is fricken everywhere on the internet.

At least four sites that I know of.
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(09-18-2020 07:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(09-18-2020 12:15 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(09-18-2020 12:05 PM)otis campbell Wrote:  
(09-17-2020 07:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  IUPUC is eying at adding sports and joining NAIA.
I am from Columbus and I always thought this possible. Where did you read this?

I mentioned it on my site, based on this:

https://www.iupuc.edu/about/administrati...inutes.pdf

DavidST is a member there too.

Damn, DavidSt is fricken everywhere on the internet.

DavidSt is the internet...he is the matrix mr smith of expansion bbs...
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(09-18-2020 08:14 AM)Todor Wrote:  I would say a lot of EWU's motivation has to do with a desire to share an affiliation with Edward Waters. Why stay in D1 when you can save a buck and affiliate with an NAIA school that makes about 1 NAIA playoff per decade in all sports combined and still can't stay out of NAIA probation (which is nearly IMPOSSIBLE). I mean, if they can't even remain in compliance in the NAIA, they are truly bottom of the barrel.

EWU will say they considered D2 and ruled against it, but they aren't actually considering it.


CWU is a potential D1 flight risk to join the WAC. They already been scheduling Big Sky schools in football. The GNAC schools except for Simon Fraser that have football could join D1. There are more football schools in the northwest at D1 than at the lower levels. Like I ponted out, EWU downgrading would cost them more money to travel for football than they would be staying in D1.
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Will Louisiana College be going to the GCAC? RRAC is possible too, but GCAC is their old stomping grounds I think.
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(09-18-2020 05:42 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(09-18-2020 05:06 PM)Inkblot Wrote:  
Quote:On October 1, the NAIA expects five additional institutions to complete applications for admission.

Who might those be? IUPUC? Ohio Valley, perhaps? Who else?

There's been no official announcements, feel free to speculate. I keep wondering what's going to happen to Chaney.

I think you’ll see Bluefield State and Salem.
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(09-19-2020 02:46 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(09-18-2020 08:14 AM)Todor Wrote:  I would say a lot of EWU's motivation has to do with a desire to share an affiliation with Edward Waters. Why stay in D1 when you can save a buck and affiliate with an NAIA school that makes about 1 NAIA playoff per decade in all sports combined and still can't stay out of NAIA probation (which is nearly IMPOSSIBLE). I mean, if they can't even remain in compliance in the NAIA, they are truly bottom of the barrel.

EWU will say they considered D2 and ruled against it, but they aren't actually considering it.


CWU is a potential D1 flight risk to join the WAC. They already been scheduling Big Sky schools in football. The GNAC schools except for Simon Fraser that have football could join D1. There are more football schools in the northwest at D1 than at the lower levels. Like I ponted out, EWU downgrading would cost them more money to travel for football than they would be staying in D1.

Money Games and nothing more.
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(09-19-2020 06:46 AM)Todor Wrote:  Will Louisiana College be going to the GCAC? RRAC is possible too, but GCAC is their old stomping grounds I think.

Sometime after Louisiana College left the NAIA there was a major realignment between the GCAC and the SSAC, that resulted in the GCAC becoming an HBCU conference. So the current GCAC isn't the old GCAC. So I think Louisiana College will go to the SSAC.
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(09-19-2020 12:32 AM)joeben69 Wrote:  
(09-18-2020 07:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(09-18-2020 12:15 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(09-18-2020 12:05 PM)otis campbell Wrote:  
(09-17-2020 07:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  IUPUC is eying at adding sports and joining NAIA.
I am from Columbus and I always thought this possible. Where did you read this?

I mentioned it on my site, based on this:

https://www.iupuc.edu/about/administrati...inutes.pdf

DavidST is a member there too.

Damn, DavidSt is fricken everywhere on the internet.

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(09-19-2020 09:55 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(09-19-2020 06:46 AM)Todor Wrote:  Will Louisiana College be going to the GCAC? RRAC is possible too, but GCAC is their old stomping grounds I think.

Sometime after Louisiana College left the NAIA there was a major realignment between the GCAC and the SSAC, that resulted in the GCAC becoming an HBCU conference. So the current GCAC isn't the old GCAC. So I think Louisiana College will go to the SSAC.

Yep. They hope to join the Sooner Athletic Conference for football, and SSAC for everything else.

https://www.wbrz.com/news/louisiana-coll...hool-year/

It's surprising they're not trying to go to the Red River Athletic Conference, where LSU-Alexandria and LSU-Shreveport currently are. But, fellow Baptist schools Blue Mountain (MS), William Carey (MS) and University of Mobile are in the SSAC. In addition, Loyola-New Orleans is also in the SSAC. Apparently, they'd rather go east than back to Texas with the RRAC.

The Sooner Athletic Conference is their closest option for football, however.
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(09-19-2020 09:55 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(09-19-2020 06:46 AM)Todor Wrote:  Will Louisiana College be going to the GCAC? RRAC is possible too, but GCAC is their old stomping grounds I think.

Sometime after Louisiana College left the NAIA there was a major realignment between the GCAC and the SSAC, that resulted in the GCAC becoming an HBCU conference. So the current GCAC isn't the old GCAC. So I think Louisiana College will go to the SSAC.

I forgot LC has football and the GCAC doesn't. But nearly every player not from LA is from Texas. Football is often the biggest consideration. But the SSAC is a lot of travel, and few schools within 3-4 hours.
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(09-19-2020 12:31 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(09-19-2020 09:55 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(09-19-2020 06:46 AM)Todor Wrote:  Will Louisiana College be going to the GCAC? RRAC is possible too, but GCAC is their old stomping grounds I think.

Sometime after Louisiana College left the NAIA there was a major realignment between the GCAC and the SSAC, that resulted in the GCAC becoming an HBCU conference. So the current GCAC isn't the old GCAC. So I think Louisiana College will go to the SSAC.

I forgot LC has football and the GCAC doesn't. But nearly every player not from LA is from Texas. Football is often the biggest consideration. But the SSAC is a lot of travel, and few schools within 3-4 hours.

Football isn't a consideration because their only choice is the Sooner Conference. The SSAC is a better "like school" alignment in every other way. In the NAIA, the primary conference selection factors are geographical footprint and playing similar schools. The RRAC has too many state and HBCU schools to be "similar" to Louisiana College. But I am already hearing talk of a potential OOC rivalry with LSU-Alexandria, who didn't have athletics. Not even sure they were offering Bachelors Degrees at the time.
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(09-19-2020 01:12 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  Football isn't a consideration because their only choice is the Sooner Conference. The SSAC is a better "like school" alignment in every other way. In the NAIA, the primary conference selection factors are geographical footprint and playing similar schools. The RRAC has too many state and HBCU schools to be "similar" to Louisiana College. But I am already hearing talk of a potential OOC rivalry with LSU-Alexandria, who didn't have athletics. Not even sure they were offering Bachelors Degrees at the time.

This. They're leaving a D-III conference made up primarily of private schools for a NAIA conference made up primarily of private schools. They're trading travel to west Texas for travel to Georgia and Florida.
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As far as similar schools, their future conference has multiple state universities and multiple HBCUs in it. If they want long travel, they found the right home though. 850 miles from Pineville to Temple Terrace and 600 or more to each Georgia school. But hey, its their gas. But even Hobbs New Mexico is a lot closer than Temple Terrace!

And, the RRAC is also primarily private schools.
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