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(09-16-2020 10:30 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:27 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:18 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:12 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:00 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  The reasons we aren't playing football are outlined in an article in the Washington Post that were posted here at least once. I know no one wants to believe what the actual people in charge are saying about the reasons for the shutdown (for some reason), but they were clearly outlined. There is no reason to speculate.

In the current times when college athletics have turned to profit centers instead of the original intention of college athletics, its pretty easy to see why some teams are still playing. ODU made a tough decision. I applaud it and 100% agree with it.

People have the right to have an opposing viewpoint but I hope that their reasoning for being against the shutdown is not "other teams are playing" or "Im missing out on my entertainment." Im hoping that schools are able to contain the virus. Im not sure how much contract tracing is being down or how much of it is being reported. Ed O said that almost his entire team contracted COVID; do we know that it was not spread outside of the confines of the football team?

This is, at least in my view, a very reasonable and well-stated position. Athletics are ancillary to the overall operations of the university. As you've noted, this had to be a very tough decision by school administrators. I for one don't know how we, as posters on a sports forum, have any basis of offering up conclusive assessments on whether that decision was right or wrong.

So how come the same benefit of the doubt is not extended to the population as a whole? I know how best to run my business, at least as well as ODU knows how to run the university and probably better. Yet Gov. Moonwalk, without so much as a "by your leave" to the legislature, thinks he can dictate how the rest of us live our lives?

So how come, Gilesfan, the university is to be applauded for its own tough decision whereas the rest of us are told to lockdown and shut up?

Where's your sympathy for the tough decisions made at the state level? The Governor has to make the decision not only for your business but the population as a whole, including those most vulnerable to the virus.

Who gave the governor that kind of authority? The entire Virginia population is not his own dictatorial enclave - - whereas ODU is. Do you really not see the difference?

So you'd be fine with the same restrictions if the legislature approved them? Still tough decisions.

I wouldn't like it, but I wouldn't be throwing a temper tantrum if this thing went through the proper process, the appropriate level of debate, and my representatives, who are accountable to me and my neighbors, had a chance to weigh in on those decisions.

I fully support the decision made by ODU's administration. I think it was braver for them to make the decision they made, knowing that they would face criticism by many of the fans, than to have made the decision to play. Calling them cowardice, in my opinion, is not warranted.

(09-16-2020 12:00 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 11:43 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 11:39 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 11:33 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Im pretty sure the Wake game ship sailed before we cancelled our season.

We were scheduled to play at Wake before we cancelled. UVA game was cancelled.

I know officially the UVA game was announced but internally, I don't believe the Wake game had a shot...unless they could work out rescheduling.

When the ACC released their schedule we were Wake Forrest's one OOC game. VMI was UVA's. We might have been able to pick that game up after the Big South cancelled but neither would have been at home like they were supposed to.

How can you play a football game with less than 50 people able to be gathered?

NC is under the same 50 person gathering restrictions.

(09-16-2020 04:32 PM)99Monarch Wrote:  NC is under the same 50 person gathering restrictions.

Then how did UNCC and App play? There’s more than 50 in one team.

Embarrassing. This is all embarrassing.

Could ODU be doing a 180 now? Could we salvage a fall season. New ODU app dropped that could have the capabilities to have game day tickets scanned from our phones, the marching band is practicing, and ODU football dropped a hype video with the players wearing face coverings. Could it be!?!

(09-16-2020 06:05 PM)AimHigher Wrote:  Could ODU be doing a 180 now? Could we salvage a fall season. New ODU app dropped that could have the capabilities to have game day tickets scanned from our phones, the marching band is practicing, and ODU football dropped a hype video with the players wearing face coverings. Could it be!?!

(09-16-2020 06:05 PM)AimHigher Wrote:  Could ODU be doing a 180 now? Could we salvage a fall season. New ODU app dropped that could have the capabilities to have game day tickets scanned from our phones, the marching band is practicing, and ODU football dropped a hype video with the players wearing face coverings. Could it be!?!

Who would we play? Would CUSA let us back in for the season?

(09-16-2020 08:50 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 06:05 PM)AimHigher Wrote:  Could ODU be doing a 180 now? Could we salvage a fall season. New ODU app dropped that could have the capabilities to have game day tickets scanned from our phones, the marching band is practicing, and ODU football dropped a hype video with the players wearing face coverings. Could it be!?!

Who would we play? Would CUSA let us back in for the season?

Could we take over Rice’s schedule

(09-16-2020 08:51 PM)AimHigher Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 08:50 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 06:05 PM)AimHigher Wrote:  Could ODU be doing a 180 now? Could we salvage a fall season. New ODU app dropped that could have the capabilities to have game day tickets scanned from our phones, the marching band is practicing, and ODU football dropped a hype video with the players wearing face coverings. Could it be!?!

Who would we play? Would CUSA let us back in for the season?

Could we take over Rice’s schedule

We could be added to the Big 10 for this season. Notre Dame did it.

Mountain West minus Hawaii and Fresno State looking at having an 8 game season. Travel would be brutal, but we could take Hawaii’s spot. Wouldn’t cost Colorado State any more time or money to play here vs Hawaii.


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That would only be four road games, so doable. I kind of like that idea if it could happen. It will be interesting to see if the MAC reverses course now too. They’re probably in the best shape to do so due to the compact nature of the conference. This is looking more and more like the worst case scenario (in regards to the decision, not health) is happening for us.

ODU's decision was not made because of player safety. I feel that was an excuse. There were many ways to keep them safe. It was made for a couple of reason in my opinion. 1) likely to provide support for the Governor because the region at the time this decision was made had a slightly higher positivity rate that other regions. 2) $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. it was less costly not to play than to play. If they played and could not bring in $ from revenue sources then ODU had to find $ to pay for those expenses associated with playing. They needed to think out of the box and could have easily fund other revenue sources such as broadcasting all the games, etc.

(09-17-2020 07:07 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  It was made for a couple of reason in my opinion. 1) likely to provide support for the Governor because the region at the time this decision was made had a slightly higher positivity rate that other regions.

I do wonder how much that portion played a role. It seems so crazy that somebody at ODU would have worked so hard to get our game with Wake moved to their campus, announced the move publicly, and then just two days later say "nah, just kidding. We're not playing". What changed during the two days between the big announcement of the Wake game, and the next announcement of cancelling the season?

(09-17-2020 07:07 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  ODU's decision was not made because of player safety. I feel that was an excuse. There were many ways to keep them safe. It was made for a couple of reason in my opinion. 1) likely to provide support for the Governor because the region at the time this decision was made had a slightly higher positivity rate that other regions. 2) $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. it was less costly not to play than to play. If they played and could not bring in $ from revenue sources then ODU had to find $ to pay for those expenses associated with playing. They needed to think out of the box and could have easily fund other revenue sources such as broadcasting all the games, etc.

I firmly believe the money was the driving factor. The question is why was money more of an issue for us than broke ass programs like So Miss? Are we that broke, and if so, why? Our budget is strong. If we are in that bad of shape then Wood should be on the chopping block. The ONLY thing that he is supposedly good at is fund raising. If he is not meeting the needs there, then there is no argument in favor of keeping him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeyXd3rBLWU

Looks like the MAC players are pushing to reverse their conference decision too. Though the MAC admin seems to be standing firm at this point. This is the type of effort and passion for the game I wish we'd see from our players though. Where are the "ODU/Let us play" conversations? Surely happening somewhere within the team.

With MWC looking like they will play now too, the only option for spring football would be the MAC. I don't think they want to be the only ones playing in the spring, and they were counting on the Big10 OOC games still happening. I no longer think we will see a spring football season.

(09-17-2020 08:26 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 07:07 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  ODU's decision was not made because of player safety. I feel that was an excuse. There were many ways to keep them safe. It was made for a couple of reason in my opinion. 1) likely to provide support for the Governor because the region at the time this decision was made had a slightly higher positivity rate that other regions. 2) $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. it was less costly not to play than to play. If they played and could not bring in $ from revenue sources then ODU had to find $ to pay for those expenses associated with playing. They needed to think out of the box and could have easily fund other revenue sources such as broadcasting all the games, etc.

I firmly believe the money was the driving factor. The question is why was money more of an issue for us than broke ass programs like So Miss? Are we that broke, and if so, why? Our budget is strong. If we are in that bad of shape then Wood should be on the chopping block. The ONLY thing that he is supposedly good at is fund raising. If he is not meeting the needs there, then there is no argument in favor of keeping him.

It’s possible that broke ass programs decided it was more important to play than to go more broke. Or they didn’t even consider the financials.

(09-17-2020 08:42 AM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 08:26 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 07:07 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  ODU's decision was not made because of player safety. I feel that was an excuse. There were many ways to keep them safe. It was made for a couple of reason in my opinion. 1) likely to provide support for the Governor because the region at the time this decision was made had a slightly higher positivity rate that other regions. 2) $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. it was less costly not to play than to play. If they played and could not bring in $ from revenue sources then ODU had to find $ to pay for those expenses associated with playing. They needed to think out of the box and could have easily fund other revenue sources such as broadcasting all the games, etc.

I firmly believe the money was the driving factor. The question is why was money more of an issue for us than broke ass programs like So Miss? Are we that broke, and if so, why? Our budget is strong. If we are in that bad of shape then Wood should be on the chopping block. The ONLY thing that he is supposedly good at is fund raising. If he is not meeting the needs there, then there is no argument in favor of keeping him.

It’s possible that broke ass programs decided it was more important to play than to go more broke. Or they didn’t even consider the financials.

The argument is that we would lose money, so I would assume those schools would lose money as well, and I don't believe for a second that these schools aren't even considering the financials. These are large institutions with tons of checks in place for these types of things.

A little something to get the ball rolling.