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(09-16-2020 07:35 AM)DWING Wrote:  I believe that it came down to CYA and who can blame them for that. IF the season were played AND anything bad happened to a player or coach THEN the ODU decision makers would be publicly responsible. That its a tough decision to be in and I honestly believe that they made the safe call with all the facts at the time (Gov. N shutting down HR, etc.) Just think IF something would have happened how much outgrage would be brought against them....."HR was justly shut down by the Gov. IF you would haved simply followed the guidance XXX would not have happened"

Lots of IFs; however, that was what they were dealing with. Lots of IFs and not many hard truths.

I wish we were playing, but I totally understand why they shut it down this year.

That is cowardice, and I do believe that our admins often show cowardice on numerous fronts. The fact is that the majority of FBS, the rest of our conference, all of the FBS schools in our state, all of the FBS schools in The South (our region), decided that they were able to create a safe atmosphere for football to be played, and our admin joined only three other schools, most from areas that had a much rougher time with COVID than us, and decided to break with their peers to shut it down. One of two things is true. Our finances are a complete disaster and we aren't able to keep up with extremely poor athletic departments like Southern Miss, or our admins made the wrong decision. Either situation is an extremely poor reflection on our leadership.

(09-16-2020 09:35 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 07:35 AM)DWING Wrote:  I believe that it came down to CYA and who can blame them for that. IF the season were played AND anything bad happened to a player or coach THEN the ODU decision makers would be publicly responsible. That its a tough decision to be in and I honestly believe that they made the safe call with all the facts at the time (Gov. N shutting down HR, etc.) Just think IF something would have happened how much outgrage would be brought against them....."HR was justly shut down by the Gov. IF you would haved simply followed the guidance XXX would not have happened"

Lots of IFs; however, that was what they were dealing with. Lots of IFs and not many hard truths.

I wish we were playing, but I totally understand why they shut it down this year.

That is cowardice, and I do believe that our admins often show cowardice on numerous fronts. The fact is that the majority of FBS, the rest of our conference, all of the FBS schools in our state, all of the FBS schools in The South (our region), decided that they were able to create a safe atmosphere for football to be played, and our admin joined only three other schools, most from areas that had a much rougher time with COVID than us, and decided to break with their peers to shut it down. One of two things is true. Our finances are a complete disaster and we aren't able to keep up with extremely poor athletic departments like Southern Miss, or our admins made the wrong decision. Either situation is an extremely poor reflection on our leadership.

Our admin made the wrong decision because others made a different decision? So far no other FBS team in our state HAS played a single game of football this season. I'm sure they will eventually but making a decision and following through on that decision are two different things.

(09-16-2020 09:39 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 09:35 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 07:35 AM)DWING Wrote:  I believe that it came down to CYA and who can blame them for that. IF the season were played AND anything bad happened to a player or coach THEN the ODU decision makers would be publicly responsible. That its a tough decision to be in and I honestly believe that they made the safe call with all the facts at the time (Gov. N shutting down HR, etc.) Just think IF something would have happened how much outgrage would be brought against them....."HR was justly shut down by the Gov. IF you would haved simply followed the guidance XXX would not have happened"

Lots of IFs; however, that was what they were dealing with. Lots of IFs and not many hard truths.

I wish we were playing, but I totally understand why they shut it down this year.

That is cowardice, and I do believe that our admins often show cowardice on numerous fronts. The fact is that the majority of FBS, the rest of our conference, all of the FBS schools in our state, all of the FBS schools in The South (our region), decided that they were able to create a safe atmosphere for football to be played, and our admin joined only three other schools, most from areas that had a much rougher time with COVID than us, and decided to break with their peers to shut it down. One of two things is true. Our finances are a complete disaster and we aren't able to keep up with extremely poor athletic departments like Southern Miss, or our admins made the wrong decision. Either situation is an extremely poor reflection on our leadership.

Our admin made the wrong decision because others made a different decision? So far no other FBS team in our state HAS played a single game of football this season. I'm sure they will eventually but making a decision and following through on that decision are two different things.

I suppose you could believe that our admin is smarter than all the others, but history leads me to believe that is not the case.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ber-return

Big 10 sees the error of their ways.

The reasons we aren't playing football are outlined in an article in the Washington Post that were posted here at least once. I know no one wants to believe what the actual people in charge are saying about the reasons for the shutdown (for some reason), but they were clearly outlined. There is no reason to speculate. Then again, the school was transparent after being contacted by the WaPo and still fans accused them of seeking out the Post to "defend" their decision.

In the current times when college athletics have turned to profit centers instead of the original intention of college athletics, its pretty easy to see why some teams are still playing. ODU made a tough decision. I applaud it and 100% agree with it.

People have the right to have an opposing viewpoint but I hope that their reasoning for being against the shutdown is not "other teams are playing" or "Im missing out on my entertainment." Im hoping that schools are able to contain the virus. Im not sure how much contract tracing is being down or how much of it is being reported. Ed O said that almost his entire team contracted COVID; do we know that it was not spread outside of the confines of the football team?

(09-16-2020 10:00 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  The reasons we aren't playing football are outlined in an article in the Washington Post that were posted here at least once. I know no one wants to believe what the actual people in charge are saying about the reasons for the shutdown (for some reason), but they were clearly outlined. There is no reason to speculate.

In the current times when college athletics have turned to profit centers instead of the original intention of college athletics, its pretty easy to see why some teams are still playing. ODU made a tough decision. I applaud it and 100% agree with it.

People have the right to have an opposing viewpoint but I hope that their reasoning for being against the shutdown is not "other teams are playing" or "Im missing out on my entertainment." Im hoping that schools are able to contain the virus. Im not sure how much contract tracing is being down or how much of it is being reported. Ed O said that almost his entire team contracted COVID; do we know that it was not spread outside of the confines of the football team?

This is, at least in my view, a very reasonable and well-stated position. Athletics are ancillary to the overall operations of the university. As you've noted, this had to be a very tough decision by school administrators. I for one don't know how we, as posters on a sports forum, have any basis of offering up conclusive assessments on whether that decision was right or wrong.

So how come the same benefit of the doubt is not extended to the population as a whole? I know how best to run my business, at least as well as ODU knows how to run the university and probably better. Yet Gov. Moonwalk, without so much as a "by your leave" to the legislature, thinks he can dictate how the rest of us live our lives?

So how come, Gilesfan, the university is to be applauded for its own tough decision whereas the rest of us are told to lockdown and shut up?

(09-16-2020 10:12 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:00 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  The reasons we aren't playing football are outlined in an article in the Washington Post that were posted here at least once. I know no one wants to believe what the actual people in charge are saying about the reasons for the shutdown (for some reason), but they were clearly outlined. There is no reason to speculate.

In the current times when college athletics have turned to profit centers instead of the original intention of college athletics, its pretty easy to see why some teams are still playing. ODU made a tough decision. I applaud it and 100% agree with it.

People have the right to have an opposing viewpoint but I hope that their reasoning for being against the shutdown is not "other teams are playing" or "Im missing out on my entertainment." Im hoping that schools are able to contain the virus. Im not sure how much contract tracing is being down or how much of it is being reported. Ed O said that almost his entire team contracted COVID; do we know that it was not spread outside of the confines of the football team?

This is, at least in my view, a very reasonable and well-stated position. Athletics are ancillary to the overall operations of the university. As you've noted, this had to be a very tough decision by school administrators. I for one don't know how we, as posters on a sports forum, have any basis of offering up conclusive assessments on whether that decision was right or wrong.

So how come the same benefit of the doubt is not extended to the population as a whole? I know how best to run my business, at least as well as ODU knows how to run the university and probably better. Yet Gov. Moonwalk, without so much as a "by your leave" to the legislature, thinks he can dictate how the rest of us live our lives?

So how come, Gilesfan, the university is to be applauded for its own tough decision whereas the rest of us are told to lockdown and shut up?

Where's your sympathy for the tough decisions made at the state level? The Governor has to make the decision not only for your business but the population as a whole, including those most vulnerable to the virus.

(09-16-2020 10:12 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:00 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  The reasons we aren't playing football are outlined in an article in the Washington Post that were posted here at least once. I know no one wants to believe what the actual people in charge are saying about the reasons for the shutdown (for some reason), but they were clearly outlined. There is no reason to speculate.

In the current times when college athletics have turned to profit centers instead of the original intention of college athletics, its pretty easy to see why some teams are still playing. ODU made a tough decision. I applaud it and 100% agree with it.

People have the right to have an opposing viewpoint but I hope that their reasoning for being against the shutdown is not "other teams are playing" or "Im missing out on my entertainment." Im hoping that schools are able to contain the virus. Im not sure how much contract tracing is being down or how much of it is being reported. Ed O said that almost his entire team contracted COVID; do we know that it was not spread outside of the confines of the football team?

This is, at least in my view, a very reasonable and well-stated position. Athletics are ancillary to the overall operations of the university. As you've noted, this had to be a very tough decision by school administrators. I for one don't know how we, as posters on a sports forum, have any basis of offering up conclusive assessments on whether that decision was right or wrong.

So how come the same benefit of the doubt is not extended to the population as a whole? I know how best to run my business, at least as well as ODU knows how to run the university and probably better. Yet Gov. Moonwalk, without so much as a "by your leave" to the legislature, thinks he can dictate how the rest of us live our lives?

So how come, Gilesfan, the university is to be applauded for its own tough decision whereas the rest of us are told to lockdown and shut up?

I do not see the corrleation you are trying to make. The decision of ODU has zero impact on me (outside of not being able to watch games). It doesn't affect me. It is the decision of a public institution.

The Gov. decision to lockdown or not has a huge impact on me. Whether others take the virus seriously or if they listen to Trump has an impact on me.

At this point, what businesses are locked down and told to shut up?

(09-16-2020 10:18 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:12 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:00 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  The reasons we aren't playing football are outlined in an article in the Washington Post that were posted here at least once. I know no one wants to believe what the actual people in charge are saying about the reasons for the shutdown (for some reason), but they were clearly outlined. There is no reason to speculate.

In the current times when college athletics have turned to profit centers instead of the original intention of college athletics, its pretty easy to see why some teams are still playing. ODU made a tough decision. I applaud it and 100% agree with it.

People have the right to have an opposing viewpoint but I hope that their reasoning for being against the shutdown is not "other teams are playing" or "Im missing out on my entertainment." Im hoping that schools are able to contain the virus. Im not sure how much contract tracing is being down or how much of it is being reported. Ed O said that almost his entire team contracted COVID; do we know that it was not spread outside of the confines of the football team?

This is, at least in my view, a very reasonable and well-stated position. Athletics are ancillary to the overall operations of the university. As you've noted, this had to be a very tough decision by school administrators. I for one don't know how we, as posters on a sports forum, have any basis of offering up conclusive assessments on whether that decision was right or wrong.

So how come the same benefit of the doubt is not extended to the population as a whole? I know how best to run my business, at least as well as ODU knows how to run the university and probably better. Yet Gov. Moonwalk, without so much as a "by your leave" to the legislature, thinks he can dictate how the rest of us live our lives?

So how come, Gilesfan, the university is to be applauded for its own tough decision whereas the rest of us are told to lockdown and shut up?

I do not see the corrleation you are trying to make. The decision of ODU has zero impact on me (outside of not being able to watch games). It doesn't affect me. It is the decision of a public institution.

The Gov. decision to lockdown or not has a huge impact on me. Whether others take the virus seriously or if they listen to Trump has an impact on me.

At this point, what businesses are locked down and told to shut up?

The public schools are are remote-only, whereas most of the private schools have figured out how to go live - - thank you teachers' union.

Most all public outlets are on half-speed, while their personnel work remotely - - good luck getting permits processed for long-suspended projects.

Evictions are again subject to a general moratorium - - but eff the landlords, this is all about being "caring" people.

Nope, you're right, nothing going on here to be concerned about aside from this oh-so scary virus.

(09-16-2020 10:18 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:12 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:00 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  The reasons we aren't playing football are outlined in an article in the Washington Post that were posted here at least once. I know no one wants to believe what the actual people in charge are saying about the reasons for the shutdown (for some reason), but they were clearly outlined. There is no reason to speculate.

In the current times when college athletics have turned to profit centers instead of the original intention of college athletics, its pretty easy to see why some teams are still playing. ODU made a tough decision. I applaud it and 100% agree with it.

People have the right to have an opposing viewpoint but I hope that their reasoning for being against the shutdown is not "other teams are playing" or "Im missing out on my entertainment." Im hoping that schools are able to contain the virus. Im not sure how much contract tracing is being down or how much of it is being reported. Ed O said that almost his entire team contracted COVID; do we know that it was not spread outside of the confines of the football team?

This is, at least in my view, a very reasonable and well-stated position. Athletics are ancillary to the overall operations of the university. As you've noted, this had to be a very tough decision by school administrators. I for one don't know how we, as posters on a sports forum, have any basis of offering up conclusive assessments on whether that decision was right or wrong.

So how come the same benefit of the doubt is not extended to the population as a whole? I know how best to run my business, at least as well as ODU knows how to run the university and probably better. Yet Gov. Moonwalk, without so much as a "by your leave" to the legislature, thinks he can dictate how the rest of us live our lives?

So how come, Gilesfan, the university is to be applauded for its own tough decision whereas the rest of us are told to lockdown and shut up?

Where's your sympathy for the tough decisions made at the state level? The Governor has to make the decision not only for your business but the population as a whole, including those most vulnerable to the virus.

Who gave the governor that kind of authority? The entire Virginia population is not his own dictatorial enclave - - whereas ODU is. Do you really not see the difference?

(09-16-2020 10:00 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  The reasons we aren't playing football are outlined in an article in the Washington Post that were posted here at least once. I know no one wants to believe what the actual people in charge are saying about the reasons for the shutdown (for some reason), but they were clearly outlined. There is no reason to speculate. Then again, the school was transparent after being contacted by the WaPo and still fans accused them of seeking out the Post to "defend" their decision.

In the current times when college athletics have turned to profit centers instead of the original intention of college athletics, its pretty easy to see why some teams are still playing. ODU made a tough decision. I applaud it and 100% agree with it.

People have the right to have an opposing viewpoint but I hope that their reasoning for being against the shutdown is not "other teams are playing" or "Im missing out on my entertainment." Im hoping that schools are able to contain the virus. Im not sure how much contract tracing is being down or how much of it is being reported. Ed O said that almost his entire team contracted COVID; do we know that it was not spread outside of the confines of the football team?

I think the issue is it seems at this point (and is still subject to change) that ODU over-reacted, made a unilateral decision too early and blew a major opportunity to play some big name teams, and play on a much bigger stage than typically available to CUSA. It just seems so odd that ODU is literally the only eastern FBS school south of NYC to bail out. The entire AAC, CUSA and SunBelt are all playing. And we made such a unilateral decision that we abandoned our conference mates. If ODU is in that much greater danger than UVA, VT, LU, UMD, UNCC, Marshall, Temple, WKU, FAU, FIU etc we have other major issues facing the school than just the virus. I just don't buy that ODU/Hampton Roads is in that much worse shape than Washington, DC, Nashville, Charlotte, Miami, Myrtle Beach etc. And those teams made it work and are reaping the benefits of it.

(09-16-2020 10:27 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:18 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:12 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:00 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  The reasons we aren't playing football are outlined in an article in the Washington Post that were posted here at least once. I know no one wants to believe what the actual people in charge are saying about the reasons for the shutdown (for some reason), but they were clearly outlined. There is no reason to speculate.

In the current times when college athletics have turned to profit centers instead of the original intention of college athletics, its pretty easy to see why some teams are still playing. ODU made a tough decision. I applaud it and 100% agree with it.

People have the right to have an opposing viewpoint but I hope that their reasoning for being against the shutdown is not "other teams are playing" or "Im missing out on my entertainment." Im hoping that schools are able to contain the virus. Im not sure how much contract tracing is being down or how much of it is being reported. Ed O said that almost his entire team contracted COVID; do we know that it was not spread outside of the confines of the football team?

This is, at least in my view, a very reasonable and well-stated position. Athletics are ancillary to the overall operations of the university. As you've noted, this had to be a very tough decision by school administrators. I for one don't know how we, as posters on a sports forum, have any basis of offering up conclusive assessments on whether that decision was right or wrong.

So how come the same benefit of the doubt is not extended to the population as a whole? I know how best to run my business, at least as well as ODU knows how to run the university and probably better. Yet Gov. Moonwalk, without so much as a "by your leave" to the legislature, thinks he can dictate how the rest of us live our lives?

So how come, Gilesfan, the university is to be applauded for its own tough decision whereas the rest of us are told to lockdown and shut up?

Where's your sympathy for the tough decisions made at the state level? The Governor has to make the decision not only for your business but the population as a whole, including those most vulnerable to the virus.

Who gave the governor that kind of authority? The entire Virginia population is not his own dictatorial enclave - - whereas ODU is. Do you really not see the difference?

So you'd be fine with the same restrictions if the legislature approved them? Still tough decisions.

(09-16-2020 10:30 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  So you'd be fine with the same restrictions if the legislature approved them? Still tough decisions.

Fine is not the right word. Dissatisfied-but-accepting of the decision is more accurate.

I do not generally agree, from a policy standpoint, with much of what my G.A. representative Jay Jones believes. But he still gets my vote, because he is a good person, responsive to his constituency, and seems to understand the limits to his own role. I am rooting for him to become governor some day.

I thought somewhat the same of Ralph Northam when he ran for office, and that is why he got my vote. Boy did that turn out to be a mistake.

(09-16-2020 10:28 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:00 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  The reasons we aren't playing football are outlined in an article in the Washington Post that were posted here at least once. I know no one wants to believe what the actual people in charge are saying about the reasons for the shutdown (for some reason), but they were clearly outlined. There is no reason to speculate. Then again, the school was transparent after being contacted by the WaPo and still fans accused them of seeking out the Post to "defend" their decision.

In the current times when college athletics have turned to profit centers instead of the original intention of college athletics, its pretty easy to see why some teams are still playing. ODU made a tough decision. I applaud it and 100% agree with it.

People have the right to have an opposing viewpoint but I hope that their reasoning for being against the shutdown is not "other teams are playing" or "Im missing out on my entertainment." Im hoping that schools are able to contain the virus. Im not sure how much contract tracing is being down or how much of it is being reported. Ed O said that almost his entire team contracted COVID; do we know that it was not spread outside of the confines of the football team?

I think the issue is it seems at this point (and is still subject to change) that ODU over-reacted, made a unilateral decision too early and blew a major opportunity to play some big name teams, and play on a much bigger stage than typically available to CUSA. It just seems so odd that ODU is literally the only eastern FBS school south of NYC to bail out. The entire AAC, CUSA and SunBelt are all playing. And we made such a unilateral decision that we abandoned our conference mates. If ODU is in that much greater danger than UVA, VT, LU, UMD, UNCC, Marshall, Temple, WKU, FAU, FIU etc we have other major issues facing the school than just the virus. I just don't buy that ODU/Hampton Roads is in that much worse shape than Washington, DC, Nashville, Charlotte, Miami, Myrtle Beach etc. And those teams made it work and are reaping the benefits of it.

This is where I am, too. While I don't necessarily believe all that was put in the Post column, I do respect the fact that Broderick and Selig had to make a tough decision and stand by it. I respect it, I just disagree with it. I think the opportunity cost is too great on this one. But, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

(09-16-2020 10:28 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:00 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  The reasons we aren't playing football are outlined in an article in the Washington Post that were posted here at least once. I know no one wants to believe what the actual people in charge are saying about the reasons for the shutdown (for some reason), but they were clearly outlined. There is no reason to speculate. Then again, the school was transparent after being contacted by the WaPo and still fans accused them of seeking out the Post to "defend" their decision.

In the current times when college athletics have turned to profit centers instead of the original intention of college athletics, its pretty easy to see why some teams are still playing. ODU made a tough decision. I applaud it and 100% agree with it.

People have the right to have an opposing viewpoint but I hope that their reasoning for being against the shutdown is not "other teams are playing" or "Im missing out on my entertainment." Im hoping that schools are able to contain the virus. Im not sure how much contract tracing is being down or how much of it is being reported. Ed O said that almost his entire team contracted COVID; do we know that it was not spread outside of the confines of the football team?

I think the issue is it seems at this point (and is still subject to change) that ODU over-reacted, made a unilateral decision too early and blew a major opportunity to play some big name teams, and play on a much bigger stage than typically available to CUSA. It just seems so odd that ODU is literally the only eastern FBS school south of NYC to bail out. The entire AAC, CUSA and SunBelt are all playing. And we made such a unilateral decision that we abandoned our conference mates. If ODU is in that much greater danger than UVA, VT, LU, UMD, UNCC, Marshall, Temple, WKU, FAU, FIU etc we have other major issues facing the school than just the virus. I just don't buy that ODU/Hampton Roads is in that much worse shape than Washington, DC, Nashville, Charlotte, Miami, Myrtle Beach etc. And those teams made it work and are reaping the benefits of it.

Your opinion is that they over-reacted.

What opportunity did we have to play big name teams?

We were at a point where we could only practice with less than half of the team at a time. What were the restrictions in Hampton Roads vs. Charlotte, DC, Blacksburg, Lynchburg, etc. vs our restrictions? What restrictions did our conference mates have compared to us?

The benefits that some seem to be implying seem very overstated. This is a half ass season with very little non conference matchups, very little teams at full strength, who knows how many people are watching, etc. In terms of the college football season to me, I am trying to leave my bias out of it bc personally, i haven't cared to watch a game and I'm not sure I will. Its just not the same; no fans, many players opting out, no sense of legitimate competition, teams being woefully underprepared because they haven't been able to practice (according to people discussing Navy, for example).

(09-16-2020 11:02 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:28 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:00 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  The reasons we aren't playing football are outlined in an article in the Washington Post that were posted here at least once. I know no one wants to believe what the actual people in charge are saying about the reasons for the shutdown (for some reason), but they were clearly outlined. There is no reason to speculate. Then again, the school was transparent after being contacted by the WaPo and still fans accused them of seeking out the Post to "defend" their decision.

In the current times when college athletics have turned to profit centers instead of the original intention of college athletics, its pretty easy to see why some teams are still playing. ODU made a tough decision. I applaud it and 100% agree with it.

People have the right to have an opposing viewpoint but I hope that their reasoning for being against the shutdown is not "other teams are playing" or "Im missing out on my entertainment." Im hoping that schools are able to contain the virus. Im not sure how much contract tracing is being down or how much of it is being reported. Ed O said that almost his entire team contracted COVID; do we know that it was not spread outside of the confines of the football team?

I think the issue is it seems at this point (and is still subject to change) that ODU over-reacted, made a unilateral decision too early and blew a major opportunity to play some big name teams, and play on a much bigger stage than typically available to CUSA. It just seems so odd that ODU is literally the only eastern FBS school south of NYC to bail out. The entire AAC, CUSA and SunBelt are all playing. And we made such a unilateral decision that we abandoned our conference mates. If ODU is in that much greater danger than UVA, VT, LU, UMD, UNCC, Marshall, Temple, WKU, FAU, FIU etc we have other major issues facing the school than just the virus. I just don't buy that ODU/Hampton Roads is in that much worse shape than Washington, DC, Nashville, Charlotte, Miami, Myrtle Beach etc. And those teams made it work and are reaping the benefits of it.

Your opinion is that they over-reacted.

What opportunity did we have to play big name teams?

We were at a point where we could only practice with less than half of the team at a time. What were the restrictions in Hampton Roads vs. Charlotte, DC, Blacksburg, Lynchburg, etc. vs our restrictions? What restrictions did our conference mates have compared to us?

The benefits that some seem to be implying seem very overstated. This is a half ass season with very little non conference matchups, very little teams at full strength, who knows how many people are watching, etc. In terms of the college football season to me, I am trying to leave my bias out of it bc personally, i haven't cared to watch a game and I'm not sure I will. Its just not the same; no fans, many players opting out, no sense of legitimate competition, teams being woefully underprepared because they haven't been able to practice (according to people discussing Navy, for example).

Wake Forest for one. The schedule would have been in flux, so who knows what other opportunities would arise. Our CUSA brethren got some decent matchups at the last minute. I agree its a half assed season, but thats why its such a great opportunity for G5s. I know we likely would have sucked this season, but for a G5 that is good this year, the sky is the limit. Games on major tv networks in prime viewing time. A chance to catch P5s off balance due to weird practice schedules etc, and if you do well, a chance to crack the top 25. More press in major outlets because there are fewer games too. The Sun Belt put on a clinic last week on how to take advantage of this opportunity. Sadly, CUSA couldn't do the same. ODU didnt even take its chance. What bugs me the most is we aren't even going through a full practice season either. Our squad is literally losing an entire season of not only games, but full contact practice too. Its going to take quite a while to shake off the rust, and overcome that advantage we have given the competition.

Im pretty sure the Wake game ship sailed before we cancelled our season.

(09-16-2020 11:33 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Im pretty sure the Wake game ship sailed before we cancelled our season.

We were scheduled to play at Wake before we cancelled. UVA game was cancelled.

(09-16-2020 11:39 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 11:33 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Im pretty sure the Wake game ship sailed before we cancelled our season.

We were scheduled to play at Wake before we cancelled. UVA game was cancelled.

I know officially the UVA game was announced but internally, I don't believe the Wake game had a shot...unless they could work out rescheduling.

(09-16-2020 11:43 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 11:39 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 11:33 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Im pretty sure the Wake game ship sailed before we cancelled our season.

We were scheduled to play at Wake before we cancelled. UVA game was cancelled.

I know officially the UVA game was announced but internally, I don't believe the Wake game had a shot...unless they could work out rescheduling.

When the ACC released their schedule we were Wake Forrest's one OOC game. VMI was UVA's. We might have been able to pick that game up after the Big South cancelled but neither would have been at home like they were supposed to.