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Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - bluelight - 09-04-2020 09:23 AM

Covid-19 has hit this country in great numbers. Presently the state of Virginia is treading stable. After seeing two weak C-USA football teams play on CBS, I wonder if we pulled too soon. With the rest of C-USA playing (states hit hard by covid19) would we have been better playing with small crowds, but drawing big revenue from national T.V.? Note: In this morning's paper the AD of North Carolina, has reduce salaries of all coaches and staff. I think the ODAF will take a hit this year and time only will tell. Mean while where is our multi deficit coming from?


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - ODUDrunkard13 - 09-04-2020 09:41 AM

(09-04-2020 09:23 AM)bluelight Wrote:  Covid-19 has hit this country in great numbers. Presently the state of Virginia is treading stable. After seeing two weak C-USA football teams play on CBS, I wonder if we pulled too soon. With the rest of C-USA playing (states hit hard by covid19) would we have been better playing with small crowds, but drawing big revenue from national T.V.? Note: In this morning's paper the AD of North Carolina, has reduce salaries of all coaches and staff. I think the ODAF will take a hit this year and time only will tell. Mean while where is our multi deficit coming from?

What National TV revenue? CUSA isn’t getting a new TV contract just because the big ten and pac aren’t playing. Now, the value of the potential exposure were missing out on is worth considering.


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - mturn017 - 09-04-2020 10:19 AM

(09-04-2020 09:41 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(09-04-2020 09:23 AM)bluelight Wrote:  Covid-19 has hit this country in great numbers. Presently the state of Virginia is treading stable. After seeing two weak C-USA football teams play on CBS, I wonder if we pulled too soon. With the rest of C-USA playing (states hit hard by covid19) would we have been better playing with small crowds, but drawing big revenue from national T.V.? Note: In this morning's paper the AD of North Carolina, has reduce salaries of all coaches and staff. I think the ODAF will take a hit this year and time only will tell. Mean while where is our multi deficit coming from?

What National TV revenue? CUSA isn’t getting a new TV contract just because the big ten and pac aren’t playing. Now, the value of the potential exposure were missing out on is worth considering.

Yeah, I have no doubt economically it was a better option. Minium wrote that ODU's crowd would have been limited to 50, so parents wouldn't even have been able to come. From an image point of view it remains to be seen I guess.


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - monarx - 09-04-2020 10:39 AM

Too early to tell. We will know in a month if it was smart or stupid.


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - Gilesfan - 09-04-2020 10:39 AM

And less than half of the team can meet and practice at the same time. Imagine trying to plan that.

And more importantly, kids were leery of traveling and playing.


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - jaybird44 - 09-04-2020 10:50 AM

IF THE REST OF CONFERENCE IS PLAYING,SO SHOULD ODU


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - ODUCoach - 09-04-2020 11:04 AM

(09-04-2020 10:39 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  And less than half of the team can meet and practice at the same time. Imagine trying to plan that.

Because of some arbitrary rule of the Governor's.

Serious question, does anyone know if VT, UVA, and Liberty are abiding by that rule?


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - AimHigher - 09-04-2020 11:45 AM

(09-04-2020 11:04 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(09-04-2020 10:39 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  And less than half of the team can meet and practice at the same time. Imagine trying to plan that.

Because of some arbitrary rule of the Governor's.

Serious question, does anyone know if VT, UVA, and Liberty are abiding by that rule?

Heck, I went to a youth soccer match last week and there were about 500+ people huddled together all day. 05-mafia but I can't have football 03-banghead


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - Grommet - 09-04-2020 11:51 AM

I had my money on bluelight with another all caps post but jaybird went and snuck that curveball in.

To answer the question: yes. Just because Baghdad Bob doesn't publicly announce all the covid-related things going on, things are going on, just like any other school you've read about in the news.


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - Grommet - 09-04-2020 11:52 AM

(09-04-2020 11:04 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(09-04-2020 10:39 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  And less than half of the team can meet and practice at the same time. Imagine trying to plan that.

Because of some arbitrary rule of the Governor's.

Serious question, does anyone know if VT, UVA, and Liberty are abiding by that rule?

IIUC specific to Hampton Roads, so none of those schools would be affected.


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - ODUCoach - 09-04-2020 12:02 PM

(09-04-2020 11:52 AM)Grommet Wrote:  
(09-04-2020 11:04 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(09-04-2020 10:39 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  And less than half of the team can meet and practice at the same time. Imagine trying to plan that.

Because of some arbitrary rule of the Governor's.

Serious question, does anyone know if VT, UVA, and Liberty are abiding by that rule?

IIUC specific to Hampton Roads, so none of those schools would be affected.

Ah, that's probably right. I forgot we got an extra special timeout.


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - ODUCoach - 09-04-2020 12:03 PM

I don't know if any of us know right now if the decision is right or wrong. I think we'll have the benefit of hindsight by the end of next month.


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - Gilesfan - 09-04-2020 12:13 PM

(09-04-2020 12:03 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I don't know if any of us know right now if the decision is right or wrong. I think we'll have the benefit of hindsight by the end of next month.

I doubt we will have any hindsight either way. Every school is different and what might work here or there may not work vis versa. And if our kids did not want to play (alluded to by Broderick), then its more of a no brainer.


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - ODUCoach - 09-04-2020 12:14 PM

(09-04-2020 12:13 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  I doubt we will have any hindsight either way. Every school is different and what might work here or there may not work vis versa. And if our kids did not want to play (alluded to by Broderick), then its more of a no brainer.

That's fair. And I'd guess we had some who might have opted out, but I bet we had plenty who wanted to play. Pretty much like every team.


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - Grommet - 09-04-2020 01:27 PM

Mods, can we fold this into the OT thread?


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - ODUDrunkard13 - 09-04-2020 01:37 PM

(09-04-2020 01:27 PM)Grommet Wrote:  Mods, can we fold this into the OT thread?

Split that part of the discussion to the OT board. One covid thread was more than enough for our main board.


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - Grommet - 09-04-2020 03:48 PM

(09-04-2020 01:37 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(09-04-2020 01:27 PM)Grommet Wrote:  Mods, can we fold this into the OT thread?

Split that part of the discussion to the OT board. One covid thread was more than enough for our main board.

Thank you 04-cheers


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - bluelight - 09-04-2020 05:03 PM

(09-04-2020 09:41 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(09-04-2020 09:23 AM)bluelight Wrote:  Covid-19 has hit this country in great numbers. Presently the state of Virginia is treading stable. After seeing two weak C-USA football teams play on CBS, I wonder if we pulled too soon. With the rest of C-USA playing (states hit hard by covid19) would we have been better playing with small crowds, but drawing big revenue from national T.V.? Note: In this morning's paper the AD of North Carolina, has reduce salaries of all coaches and staff. I think the ODAF will take a hit this year and time only will tell. Mean while where is our multi deficit coming from?

What National TV revenue? CUSA isn’t getting a new TV contract just because the big ten and pac aren’t playing. Now, the value of the potential exposure were missing out on is worth considering.

I was not talking about a CBS contract, but some games on several networks like ESPN+


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - The Flagship - 09-04-2020 05:53 PM

(09-04-2020 12:03 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I don't know if any of us know right now if the decision is right or wrong. I think we'll have the benefit of hindsight by the end of next month.

Just my opinion, but I said from Minute-1 that this decision was about money. Our athletic department net loss will be less by not playing vs. playing. And that does not include the risk of lawsuits in the future from players contracting the virus. Harry's first blurb was about it being about the safety of the players. But let's be honest. How much more of a risk is it compared to being an average college student? I think it's more, but not that much more.

So was the decision right or wrong? The virus spread was/is an unknown. The financial loss was known and nothing could change that. The lawsuit liability was unknown. I think based on these factors, the decision was right.


RE: Was ODU's decision, right or wrong - ODUDrunkard13 - 09-04-2020 06:08 PM

(09-04-2020 05:03 PM)bluelight Wrote:  
(09-04-2020 09:41 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(09-04-2020 09:23 AM)bluelight Wrote:  Covid-19 has hit this country in great numbers. Presently the state of Virginia is treading stable. After seeing two weak C-USA football teams play on CBS, I wonder if we pulled too soon. With the rest of C-USA playing (states hit hard by covid19) would we have been better playing with small crowds, but drawing big revenue from national T.V.? Note: In this morning's paper the AD of North Carolina, has reduce salaries of all coaches and staff. I think the ODAF will take a hit this year and time only will tell. Mean while where is our multi deficit coming from?

What National TV revenue? CUSA isn’t getting a new TV contract just because the big ten and pac aren’t playing. Now, the value of the potential exposure were missing out on is worth considering.

I was not talking about a CBS contract, but some games on several networks like ESPN+

Yeah, those games won’t pay us anything extra. The TV contract is set. A pandemic doesn’t change that.