Yeah, this is gonna get thrown back

Didn’t we do this a while ago? Maybe I’m mistaken, but I thought this was already law.

As an aside, folks are gonna talk about whether this is constitutional, but it also raises some pretty serious medical ethics issues.

I had no idea that Birmingham was loaded with libs.

(08-19-2020 06:38 PM)450bench Wrote:  I had no idea that Birmingham was loaded with libs.

it's a shitehole. Most people have fled. Corruption at every level. If memory is right Jeffco even bankrupted their sewer system. Noone goes there on purpose. The Galleria has even been destroyed. It's on a fast track to being Detroit. Avoid if atcall possible. It's a shame it's in alabama. It needs a wall.

(08-19-2020 05:47 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Yeah, this is gonna get thrown back

Prog filth hope so.

Wow, this subject is pretty eerie. It's true that pedophiles need to be punished but heck, loping off their wacker? That's pretty radical. But, I can see the point of it especially if the victim is related to you. And I realize that the ACLU is against it but where is their outrage with killing babies that have already been born? This is worst I think because they are not allowing a human being to grow to be one. An innocent human being vs a convicted pedophile are not the same. The former hasn't a stain of sin in their being other than the one Adam and Eve gave him but that's not even a one way to hell kind of sin. The other is, that individual has destroyed not only the victims life but also that victims father and mother. Can you imagine the angst toward that individual? Some here have even testified that they'd take matters into their own hands.

So yes, I would okay castration as a punishment because that individual has a mental problem that cannot be controlled and I could bet that if he was loose he'd commit that crime again.

So...in conclusion...whack it off!

Has the ACLU filed their suit yet?

(08-19-2020 08:54 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Has the ACLU filed their suit yet?

C'mon boys, you've got to admit it puts a whole new spin on "Talleywhacker" doesn't it!

I chemically castrate people at work all the time. It’s a pretty standard treatment for men with advanced prostate cancer.

Do you guys even understand what chemical castration is? It has nothing to do with your *****. Or cutting off anything. It simply lowers your testerone levels where it's difficult to get an erection, and is reversible when you stop the treatment.

https://www.thecut.com/2015/12/what-its-...rated.html

(08-19-2020 09:06 PM)dfarr Wrote:  I chemically castrate people at work all the time. It’s a pretty standard treatment for men with advanced prostate cancer.

Exactly. Lupron. Perfectly fine. People getting stirred up fer nuttin'.

(08-19-2020 09:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Do you guys even understand what chemical castration is? It has nothing to do with your *****. Or cutting off anything. It simply lowers your testerone levels where it's difficult to get an erection, and is reversible when you stop the treatment.

https://www.thecut.com/2015/12/what-its-...rated.html

Of course we do. It's the only legal way of performing the castration which is by definition a nut cutting. A chemical one just destroys the production of hormones responsible for the drive and still doesn't remove the testicles. But since the rest of them were having sport with it anything is fair game. But truly if it was the removal of the male member we would be having those awaiting sex change flocking to Alabama to molest children to get a free one.

Truth is TripleA there was a time that pedophiles just disappeared never to be heard from again and it didn't take a court order for it to happen either.

The truly sad thing is that chemical castration is probably not an effective means through which to stop a behavior that is a perversion of the mind.

A true pedophile (not a 17 year old banging a 15 year old) I don’t think ever is “cured” of the desire for sexual relations with kids. Some can refrain & others can’t.

Since we don’t know who can and cannot leave kids alone, I’m okay with chemical castration-probably prefer permanent castration or life in prison with no parole. I just can’t square with adults having sex with kids and messing them up for life....

Call it harsh.......I’m sure some 7 year old getting screwed by some man is harsh for that kid.

(08-19-2020 09:50 PM)Crebman Wrote:  A true pedophile (not a 17 year old banging a 15 year old) I don’t think ever is “cured” of the desire for sexual relations with kids. Some can refrain & others can’t.

Since we don’t know who can and cannot leave kids alone, I’m okay with chemical castration-probably prefer permanent castration or life in prison with no parole. I just can’t square with adults having sex with kids and messing them up for life....

Call it harsh.......I’m sure some 7 year old getting screwed by some man is harsh for that kid.

Life in prison is appropriate IMO. Nothing good comes from failure to protect the innocent and children are innocent and should grow up that way.

Young people won't remember but there was a time when rape was punishable by death as well. When violence happens to anyone they are never the same and the perpetrator steals their sense of security and confidence for the rest of their lives. There is no restitution for that! Personally I despise a society that coddles violent offenders, for that society places less value on the innocent and law abiding who are asked to suffer the leniency than on those who assault them. Such a society reveres neither justice nor righteousness.

Keeping them alive or up for parole is just another way for lawyers to skim a living off of everyone else's pain.

(08-19-2020 10:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 09:50 PM)Crebman Wrote:  A true pedophile (not a 17 year old banging a 15 year old) I don’t think ever is “cured” of the desire for sexual relations with kids. Some can refrain & others can’t.

Since we don’t know who can and cannot leave kids alone, I’m okay with chemical castration-probably prefer permanent castration or life in prison with no parole. I just can’t square with adults having sex with kids and messing them up for life....

Call it harsh.......I’m sure some 7 year old getting screwed by some man is harsh for that kid.

Life in prison is appropriate IMO. Nothing good comes from failure to protect the innocent and children are innocent and should grow up that way.

Young people won't remember but there was a time when rape was punishable by death as well. When violence happens to anyone they are never the same and the perpetrator steals their sense of security and confidence for the rest of their lives. There is no restitution for that! Personally I despise a society that coddles violent offenders, for that society places less value on the innocent and law abiding who are asked to suffer the leniency on those who assault them. Such a society reveres neither justice nor righteousness.

Yep. It’s high time we go back to protecting the victim and throwing the book at the perpetrators. For me, pedophilia ranks just below murder as their actions can ruin a kids life for good..........

Lock them up for good.

(08-19-2020 09:15 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 09:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Do you guys even understand what chemical castration is? It has nothing to do with your *****. Or cutting off anything. It simply lowers your testerone levels where it's difficult to get an erection, and is reversible when you stop the treatment.

https://www.thecut.com/2015/12/what-its-...rated.html

Of course we do. It's the only legal way of performing the castration which is by definition a nut cutting. A chemical one just destroys the production of hormones responsible for the drive and still doesn't remove the testicles. But since the rest of them were having sport with it anything is fair game. But truly if it was the removal of the male member we would be having those awaiting sex change flocking to Alabama to molest children to get a free one.

Truth is TripleA there was a time that pedophiles just disappeared never to be heard from again and it didn't take a court order for it to happen either.

The truly sad thing is that chemical castration is probably not an effective means through which to stop a behavior that is a perversion of the mind.

IMO, it has zero to do with stopping the behavior from a perversion standpoint. You're right, that mindset will never change.

All it does is lower his sex drive, and make it impossible to have an erection, and thus impossible to actually sexually assault anybody while he is on the drug.

IMO, once you are convicted of sexual assault, you should have to take the drug forever, because as you say, you are never really "cured."

Oh, and some peeps here (not you) did NOT understand that "castration" in this case was simply a drug that lowered your testosterone levels.

(08-20-2020 12:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 09:15 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 09:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Do you guys even understand what chemical castration is? It has nothing to do with your *****. Or cutting off anything. It simply lowers your testerone levels where it's difficult to get an erection, and is reversible when you stop the treatment.

https://www.thecut.com/2015/12/what-its-...rated.html

Of course we do. It's the only legal way of performing the castration which is by definition a nut cutting. A chemical one just destroys the production of hormones responsible for the drive and still doesn't remove the testicles. But since the rest of them were having sport with it anything is fair game. But truly if it was the removal of the male member we would be having those awaiting sex change flocking to Alabama to molest children to get a free one.

Truth is TripleA there was a time that pedophiles just disappeared never to be heard from again and it didn't take a court order for it to happen either.

The truly sad thing is that chemical castration is probably not an effective means through which to stop a behavior that is a perversion of the mind.

IMO, it has zero to do with stopping the behavior from a perversion standpoint. You're right, that mindset will never change.

All it does is lower his sex drive, and make it impossible to have an erection, and thus impossible to actually sexually assault anybody while he is on the drug.

IMO, once you are convicted of sexual assault, you should have to take the drug forever, because as you say, you are never really "cured."

Oh, and some peeps here (not you) did NOT understand that "castration" in this case was simply a drug that lowered your testosterone levels.

I had some fun with the Alabama stereotype that many of our local whackos carry.

I gave the benefit of the doubt to those who conflated the castration aspect with John Bobbitt's life altering situation.

That said, I don't think they should take the drug their entire life at all. I believe the sick bastardos never need to see the light of day as a free man again. There is a school of thought that such offenders if deprived of the sexual aspect will seek to satisfy the urge with murder. I don't want to know if that line of thought is correct or not. These mentally ill sociopaths never need to be in an open and free society again.

Only fools believe that rehabilitation is the answer to every crime. Crimes related to economic situations probably do deserve more leniency. Crimes related to power or obsession don't.

(08-20-2020 12:25 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 12:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 09:15 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 09:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Do you guys even understand what chemical castration is? It has nothing to do with your *****. Or cutting off anything. It simply lowers your testerone levels where it's difficult to get an erection, and is reversible when you stop the treatment.

https://www.thecut.com/2015/12/what-its-...rated.html

Of course we do. It's the only legal way of performing the castration which is by definition a nut cutting. A chemical one just destroys the production of hormones responsible for the drive and still doesn't remove the testicles. But since the rest of them were having sport with it anything is fair game. But truly if it was the removal of the male member we would be having those awaiting sex change flocking to Alabama to molest children to get a free one.

Truth is TripleA there was a time that pedophiles just disappeared never to be heard from again and it didn't take a court order for it to happen either.

The truly sad thing is that chemical castration is probably not an effective means through which to stop a behavior that is a perversion of the mind.

IMO, it has zero to do with stopping the behavior from a perversion standpoint. You're right, that mindset will never change.

All it does is lower his sex drive, and make it impossible to have an erection, and thus impossible to actually sexually assault anybody while he is on the drug.

IMO, once you are convicted of sexual assault, you should have to take the drug forever, because as you say, you are never really "cured."

Oh, and some peeps here (not you) did NOT understand that "castration" in this case was simply a drug that lowered your testosterone levels.

I had some fun with the Alabama stereotype that many of our local whackos carry.

I gave the benefit of the doubt to those who conflated the castration aspect with John Bobbitt's life altering situation.

That said, I don't think they should take the drug their entire life at all. I believe the sick bastardos never need to see the light of day as a free man again. There is a school of thought that such offenders if deprived of the sexual aspect will seek to satisfy the urge with murder. I don't want to know if that line of thought is correct or not. These mentally ill sociopaths never need to be in an open and free society again.

Only fools believe that rehabilitation is the answer to every crime. Crimes related to economic situations probably do deserve more leniency. Crimes related to power or obsession don't.

outside of torture, the worst punishment is life in solitary...

death,chem castration, etc is gift in relative terms...

I favor castration with a dull spoon

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(08-19-2020 05:21 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:00 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  I'm almost certain that there are federal cases from decades ago declaring this type of thing unconstitutional.

I'm the fueld... that makes sense...

having said that, if it was my child, the courts would never be an option......

#medieval

I'd ride with yah