Inmates running another asylum.

(08-02-2020 03:04 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(08-02-2020 02:25 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Respect to the players. They won't win but at least they know they're being exploited. If you're against the players getting paid then you should be against these coaches receiving huge contracts and also these schools receiving the huge tv payouts. It's not possible without them.

I am against the huge $ getting paid. Makes it hard fir the average Joe to take bus families to games.

Newflash.. what is charged has nothinh to do with salaries. Even if they paid coaches $1, athletic departments woukd charge the highest prices they could get away with

(08-02-2020 02:25 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Respect to the players. They won't win but at least they know they're being exploited. If you're against the players getting paid then you should be against these coaches receiving huge contracts and also these schools receiving the huge tv payouts. It's not possible without them.

Its absolutely possible without them. Their are plenty that will step up and play for nothing. Those that don't want to can frick right on off. If they wanna get paid then get a job. Colleges need to get out of the fake pro sports business.

(08-02-2020 07:14 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-02-2020 02:25 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Respect to the players. They won't win but at least they know they're being exploited. If you're against the players getting paid then you should be against these coaches receiving huge contracts and also these schools receiving the huge tv payouts. It's not possible without them.

Its absolutely possible without them. Their are plenty that will step up and play for nothing. Those that don't want to can frick right on off. If they wanna get paid then get a job. Colleges need to get out of the fake pro sports business.

Amen brother!

Do they realize if they don't play they will lose their scholarship? These clowns can't make demands.

Toss the crybaby’s

Crybabies

you guys are

(08-02-2020 09:37 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Crybabies

you guys are

Don’t be like that.

(08-02-2020 02:14 PM)450bench Wrote:  Biggest eye roll of the day...

Why?

(08-02-2020 02:21 PM)450bench Wrote:  Nothing fake about that particular bit of news. Players in the Pac12 make specific demands. If they aren’t met they will sit out the year. Not fake news at all.

The headline presents it as a great majority of players...

While the headline is true it is misleading unless you read the article.

(08-02-2020 07:25 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  Do they realize if they don't play they will lose their scholarship? These clowns can't make demands.

And these clowns passed an ACT to get accepted ? Must have been fake scores.

Bye, Felicia.

(08-02-2020 02:25 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Respect to the players. They won't win but at least they know they're being exploited. If you're against the players getting paid then you should be against these coaches receiving huge contracts and also these schools receiving the huge tv payouts. It's not possible without them.

As per the huge TV payouts, you do realize that at mostly every school, the TV payouts are help to balance the budgets so that tennis, golf, swimming, rowing, etc can still perform? They are wanting their cake and eating it too. They want 50% of the league's profits, yet also want schools to take from their money to keep sports (ie, Stanford dropping sports). You can't get it both ways...either you want your money or you want to save sports.

Inside of the demands that I have seen, there are some that are 100% reachable and should be standard; however, there are a lot that are a pie-in-the-sky type of challenge.

Anyway, just my $.02.

(08-03-2020 08:26 AM)TigerFan40 Wrote:  

(08-02-2020 02:25 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Respect to the players. They won't win but at least they know they're being exploited. If you're against the players getting paid then you should be against these coaches receiving huge contracts and also these schools receiving the huge tv payouts. It's not possible without them.

As per the huge TV payouts, you do realize that at mostly every school, the TV payouts are help to balance the budgets so that tennis, golf, swimming, rowing, etc can still perform? They are wanting their cake and eating it too. They want 50% of the league's profits, yet also want schools to take from their money to keep sports (ie, Stanford dropping sports). You can't get it both ways...either you want your money or you want to save sports.

Inside of the demands that I have seen, there are some that are 100% reachable and should be standard; however, there are a lot that are a pie-in-the-sky type of challenge.

Anyway, just my $.02.

I agree... They might as well have asked for ten bazillion dollars as 50% of revenue.

Most of those schools are break even with subsidies from their respective states... So you could only give the "student athletes" 50% of revenues if they pay 50% of expenses. This includes everything from building upkeep to the salary of the person that empties the garbage at their indoor practice fields and utilities cost... depreciation, etc.

I agree college athletes should be reimbursed for the use of their likeness.

But these cats are going to get an economics lesson real quick like.

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It appears if they use the "COVID" excuse to opt out of the season, not only can they no longer play (all season), they can't even practice with the team anymore. If you formally opt out, you cannot opt back in.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...eate-issue

Quote:Woods remains on scholarship and part of Washington State's team, but sources told ESPN that any player who formally opts out for health concerns cannot participate in team activities for safety reasons. Sources said two Washington State players have formally opted out of the season. Other Cougars players who support the unity movement but haven't opted out can continue to work out and participate in the enhanced summer access program, sources told ESPN. Washington State held a team meeting Sunday night to address the situation. The enhanced summer access program begins Monday.

And then there's this gem:

Quote:Woods' mother, Jerline Woods, posted Sunday on Twitter that multiple WSU players who supported the unity movement were cut and told to clean out their lockers. Washington State, which confirmed Sunday that no players had been removed from the team, is expected to issue a statement later Monday supporting Rolovich.

(08-03-2020 08:34 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(08-03-2020 08:26 AM)TigerFan40 Wrote:  

(08-02-2020 02:25 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Respect to the players. They won't win but at least they know they're being exploited. If you're against the players getting paid then you should be against these coaches receiving huge contracts and also these schools receiving the huge tv payouts. It's not possible without them.

As per the huge TV payouts, you do realize that at mostly every school, the TV payouts are help to balance the budgets so that tennis, golf, swimming, rowing, etc can still perform? They are wanting their cake and eating it too. They want 50% of the league's profits, yet also want schools to take from their money to keep sports (ie, Stanford dropping sports). You can't get it both ways...either you want your money or you want to save sports.

Inside of the demands that I have seen, there are some that are 100% reachable and should be standard; however, there are a lot that are a pie-in-the-sky type of challenge.

Anyway, just my $.02.

I agree... They might as well have asked for ten bazillion dollars as 50% of revenue.

Most of those schools are break even with subsidies from their respective states... So you could only give the "student athletes" 50% of revenues if they pay 50% of expenses. This includes everything from building upkeep to the salary of the person that empties the garbage at their indoor practice fields and utilities cost... depreciation, etc.

They asked for 50% of the "revenue" or Top Line Revenue without going against any expenses

First responder above used the term "50% of the league's profits" not the same thing as top line revenue.

Just for clarification.

I think I'm going to try this with my employer and see how that goes. I'll boycott doing any work unless they cut the executive salaries and redistribute half of the company's profits to all employees.

Good luck to the Dudes that refuse to participate, they should not be removed from school however, their
Scholly should be removed and they can pay their tuition like so many other students.
After a semester they'll have a idea what the value of a free ride is costing the university.
Ike believes the Ivy has the right idea, no Scholarships, u get a education and play for fun.

(08-03-2020 09:09 AM)griffin Wrote:  

(08-03-2020 08:34 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(08-03-2020 08:26 AM)TigerFan40 Wrote:  

(08-02-2020 02:25 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Respect to the players. They won't win but at least they know they're being exploited. If you're against the players getting paid then you should be against these coaches receiving huge contracts and also these schools receiving the huge tv payouts. It's not possible without them.

As per the huge TV payouts, you do realize that at mostly every school, the TV payouts are help to balance the budgets so that tennis, golf, swimming, rowing, etc can still perform? They are wanting their cake and eating it too. They want 50% of the league's profits, yet also want schools to take from their money to keep sports (ie, Stanford dropping sports). You can't get it both ways...either you want your money or you want to save sports.

Inside of the demands that I have seen, there are some that are 100% reachable and should be standard; however, there are a lot that are a pie-in-the-sky type of challenge.

Anyway, just my $.02.

I agree... They might as well have asked for ten bazillion dollars as 50% of revenue.

Most of those schools are break even with subsidies from their respective states... So you could only give the "student athletes" 50% of revenues if they pay 50% of expenses. This includes everything from building upkeep to the salary of the person that empties the garbage at their indoor practice fields and utilities cost... depreciation, etc.

They asked for 50% of the "revenue" or Top Line Revenue without going against any expenses

First responder above used the term "50% of the league's profits" not the same thing as top line revenue.

Just for clarification.

Either way, they are essentially demanding equity in the enterprise. Are they willing to accept the downside of ownership in a year like this when revenues are going to drop dramatically and pretty much every program is losing money? Are they going to be willing to put in their half of the money needed? Can they afford to?

Oh ya, that is why the people at the top make more, they are taking on practically 100% of the financial risk...