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(07-24-2020 06:21 AM)757ODU Wrote:  I am not a Trump supporter, but I do find it funny that the same people who laugh and joke on the conspiracy theorists about Covid-19, are the same people that are creating conspiracy theories about Trump.

It's only a conspiracy theory if you don't believe it, then it's just a theory.

(07-24-2020 08:47 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:41 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:18 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  If y’all want to keep this thread going, leave the personal attacks out of the discussion.

I see my post was removed. I said he was creative for his "theory" of Trump being a puppet for the others. Didnt think that was an attack calling someone "creative", even regarding childhood art...

Things getting a little tighter online too I see.

Snuffing out the smack before it goes too far. And don’t act like that was a compliment.

Okey dokie thereee!

So is governor Coonman going to hear out the CDC or not.

Thats great for your buddies Giles. Are they business owners like yourself or random Joes working for the man.

I've looked into the tuition cost of private school (even though my daughter is 16 months) and I could do it, if we wanted and she was of the age. I think what Trump is working on regarding the money following the student is a great idea though.

Lets take me as an example if my daughter was in grade school. Me and Wife work 40 hrs a week. School ops for virtual learning only. We're in some sort of situation then. Well if private schools are open, then it seems like our only choice is for one parent to stay home (lose income) or pay tuition rates of a private school (also essentially losing income not originally accounted for). Great situation to be in because our governor and his buddies below him.

Especially with all the pediatricians and now CDC stating what they have.

(07-24-2020 09:52 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:47 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:41 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:18 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  If y’all want to keep this thread going, leave the personal attacks out of the discussion.

I see my post was removed. I said he was creative for his "theory" of Trump being a puppet for the others. Didnt think that was an attack calling someone "creative", even regarding childhood art...

Things getting a little tighter online too I see.

Snuffing out the smack before it goes too far. And don’t act like that was a compliment.

Okey dokie thereee!

So is governor Coonman going to hear out the CDC or not.

Thats great for your buddies Giles. Are they business owners like yourself or random Joes working for the man.

I've looked into the tuition cost of private school (even though my daughter is 16 months) and I could do it, if we wanted and she was of the age. I think what Trump is working on regarding the money following the student is a great idea though.

Lets take me as an example if my daughter was in grade school. Me and Wife work 40 hrs a week. School ops for virtual learning only. We're in some sort of situation then. Well if private schools are open, then it seems like our only choice is for one parent to stay home (lose income) or pay tuition rates of a private school (also essentially losing income not originally accounted for). Great situation to be in because our governor and his buddies below him.

Especially with all the pediatricians and now CDC stating what they have.

The fact that you just used the term Coonman says a lot about you.

For everyone who is in the “kids don’t pass on Covid” (someone actually said there hasn’t been one single case of a kid passing it onto a teacher) then please explain how an asymptomatic kid infected 16 people via daycare?

Also for those gun ho on sending their kids to school -since private schools apparently aren’t an option for different reasons- if your child goes to school and contracts Covid and is asymptomatic, how do you ensure that he doesn’t spread it to your family members? Perhaps their grandparents.... Would love to know how you would explain to your kid that their grandparent got extremely sick (or worse died) from Covid when the only people to come in contact with them is you and your family

(07-24-2020 10:10 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 09:52 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:47 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:41 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:18 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  If y’all want to keep this thread going, leave the personal attacks out of the discussion.

I see my post was removed. I said he was creative for his "theory" of Trump being a puppet for the others. Didnt think that was an attack calling someone "creative", even regarding childhood art...

Things getting a little tighter online too I see.

Snuffing out the smack before it goes too far. And don’t act like that was a compliment.

Okey dokie thereee!

So is governor Coonman going to hear out the CDC or not.

Thats great for your buddies Giles. Are they business owners like yourself or random Joes working for the man.

I've looked into the tuition cost of private school (even though my daughter is 16 months) and I could do it, if we wanted and she was of the age. I think what Trump is working on regarding the money following the student is a great idea though.

Lets take me as an example if my daughter was in grade school. Me and Wife work 40 hrs a week. School ops for virtual learning only. We're in some sort of situation then. Well if private schools are open, then it seems like our only choice is for one parent to stay home (lose income) or pay tuition rates of a private school (also essentially losing income not originally accounted for). Great situation to be in because our governor and his buddies below him.

Especially with all the pediatricians and now CDC stating what they have.

The fact that you just used the term Coonman says a lot about you.

For everyone who is in the “kids don’t pass on Covid” (someone actually said there hasn’t been one single case of a kid passing it onto a teacher) then please explain how an asymptomatic kid infected 16 people via daycare?

Also for those gun ho on sending their kids to school -since private schools apparently aren’t an option for different reasons- if your child goes to school and contracts Covid and is asymptomatic, how do you ensure that he doesn’t spread it to your family members? Perhaps their grandparents.... Would love to know how you would explain to your kid that their grandparent got extremely sick (or worse died) from Covid when the only people to come in contact with them is you and your family

"Coonman" was literally Northam's nickname in college.

As far as the 2nd part, I could no more assure that I won't kill my family in a car wreck while going on vacation. Everyone that gets out of bed risks their lives to some degree every single day. Covid is just another risk that hopefully goes away, but likely one we will just have to live with.

(07-24-2020 10:10 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 09:52 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:47 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:41 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:18 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  If y’all want to keep this thread going, leave the personal attacks out of the discussion.

I see my post was removed. I said he was creative for his "theory" of Trump being a puppet for the others. Didnt think that was an attack calling someone "creative", even regarding childhood art...

Things getting a little tighter online too I see.

Snuffing out the smack before it goes too far. And don’t act like that was a compliment.

Okey dokie thereee!

So is governor Coonman going to hear out the CDC or not.

Thats great for your buddies Giles. Are they business owners like yourself or random Joes working for the man.

I've looked into the tuition cost of private school (even though my daughter is 16 months) and I could do it, if we wanted and she was of the age. I think what Trump is working on regarding the money following the student is a great idea though.

Lets take me as an example if my daughter was in grade school. Me and Wife work 40 hrs a week. School ops for virtual learning only. We're in some sort of situation then. Well if private schools are open, then it seems like our only choice is for one parent to stay home (lose income) or pay tuition rates of a private school (also essentially losing income not originally accounted for). Great situation to be in because our governor and his buddies below him.

Especially with all the pediatricians and now CDC stating what they have.

The fact that you just used the term Coonman says a lot about you.

For everyone who is in the “kids don’t pass on Covid” (someone actually said there hasn’t been one single case of a kid passing it onto a teacher) then please explain how an asymptomatic kid infected 16 people via daycare?

Also for those gun ho on sending their kids to school -since private schools apparently aren’t an option for different reasons- if your child goes to school and contracts Covid and is asymptomatic, how do you ensure that he doesn’t spread it to your family members? Perhaps their grandparents.... Would love to know how you would explain to your kid that their grandparent got extremely sick (or worse died) from Covid when the only people to come in contact with them is you and your family

Yeah it probably tells you I dont agree with him, his policies or his early life choices, being that was his self proclaimed nickname from his VMI yearbook. What else does me calling him by his own self made nickname say about ME.

As far as your reference from NY, I checked into that.

"Feathers (daycare owner) said Onondaga County Health Department staff confirmed that they believe the cluster of cases is as a result of the asymptomatic child being brought by the mother who should have quarantined."

Hey now, you failed to mention the mother's test came back positive too. Is that information not important? Being that 2 people were positive, its a 50/50 chance it was the kid or the mom. Based on numerous other articles proposing that asymptomatic carriers are much less likely to pass it on, I would say its "more likely" the mother who was also infected, (for those unaware) was the one who infected the others and not the asymptomatic child.

THAT IS MY OPINION. Get bent out of shape all you want about it. Just dont go spreading information likes its truth. Lots to be determined within that situation so at this time, there is no explanation for your question.

(07-24-2020 09:52 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:47 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:41 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:18 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  If y’all want to keep this thread going, leave the personal attacks out of the discussion.

I see my post was removed. I said he was creative for his "theory" of Trump being a puppet for the others. Didnt think that was an attack calling someone "creative", even regarding childhood art...

Things getting a little tighter online too I see.

Snuffing out the smack before it goes too far. And don’t act like that was a compliment.

Especially with all the pediatricians and now CDC stating what they have.

I am so disappointed in my country and more so my city right now.

There is just no data, no expertise, no science that supports the approach that is being taken with schools.

It is impossible for me to believe it is anything but political. And when I say that, I do not infer that individuals like Giles are making decisions based on politics, but rather that the nation is being misled by people/organizations who have a political interest in keeping people as miserable as possible.

(07-24-2020 10:10 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 09:52 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:47 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:41 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:18 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  If y’all want to keep this thread going, leave the personal attacks out of the discussion.

I see my post was removed. I said he was creative for his "theory" of Trump being a puppet for the others. Didnt think that was an attack calling someone "creative", even regarding childhood art...

Things getting a little tighter online too I see.

Snuffing out the smack before it goes too far. And don’t act like that was a compliment.

Okey dokie thereee!

So is governor Coonman going to hear out the CDC or not.

Thats great for your buddies Giles. Are they business owners like yourself or random Joes working for the man.

I've looked into the tuition cost of private school (even though my daughter is 16 months) and I could do it, if we wanted and she was of the age. I think what Trump is working on regarding the money following the student is a great idea though.

Lets take me as an example if my daughter was in grade school. Me and Wife work 40 hrs a week. School ops for virtual learning only. We're in some sort of situation then. Well if private schools are open, then it seems like our only choice is for one parent to stay home (lose income) or pay tuition rates of a private school (also essentially losing income not originally accounted for). Great situation to be in because our governor and his buddies below him.

Especially with all the pediatricians and now CDC stating what they have.

The fact that you just used the term Coonman says a lot about you.

For everyone who is in the “kids don’t pass on Covid” (someone actually said there hasn’t been one single case of a kid passing it onto a teacher) then please explain how an asymptomatic kid infected 16 people via daycare?

Also for those gun ho on sending their kids to school -since private schools apparently aren’t an option for different reasons- if your child goes to school and contracts Covid and is asymptomatic, how do you ensure that he doesn’t spread it to your family members? Perhaps their grandparents.... Would love to know how you would explain to your kid that their grandparent got extremely sick (or worse died) from Covid when the only people to come in contact with them is you and your family

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/no-kn...-3zk5g2x6z

A leading epidemiologist in the UK, who is on the nations SAGE board which is their national committee to address COVID indicated that there are zero confirmed cases of students infecting teachers in the entire world.

If you would like to dispute that with facts, please do. If you would like to dispute it by pointing to something completely anecdotal and unrelated, I guess you can do that too. #trusttheexperts #followthedata #followthescience

The last two posts have addressed the school situation, so I wanted to talk about masks for a second. I am quoting this from a friend, who I thought put it quite well.

Quote:It’s hard to imagine bigger hypocrisy than people who use their prestige and power to support or enact policies that get you or me fined, arrested, or jailed for noncompliance and then blatantly violate those same rules themselves with smiles on their faces. No social distancing. No masks.

“It’s a big club. And you ain’t in it.” - George Carlin

I want to be clear that I’m not giving my personal opinion on any policy here. However, I can’t count the number of times I’ve seen people declare the only reason some people are against masks or social distancing is because they’re dumb and don’t understand science.

Maybe they just recognize rank hypocrisy when they see it, and the leaders who make or influence policy have rightfully lost any claim to the public’s trust. The vast majority of people, even if brilliant in other areas and fields, aren’t steeped in science. They’re not likely to pour through dozens of studies themselves. Can you blame them for looking at Cuomo and Fauci advocate all day long for mandatory masking, for social distancing, then drop all pretense of following their own orders when they think no one’s watching? Not just no mask, but close contact with no mask.

Of course when standing by himself on the pitcher’s mound earlier that night, outdoors and 60 feet away from any other human, Fauci donned his mask before butchering the first pitch. How else do you possibly expect normal humans to react to him wearing it in an obvious show of theater 60 feet away from anyone, but then going to sit right next to two friends, sans mask? They could’ve easily spread 2-3 seats apart, and no one would’ve had a problem.

The problem isn’t a lack of scientific understanding among the public. That has always been the case. The problem is the people who tell us we can be locked in a cage for not listening to their rules, blatantly disobeying those same rules when they think no one’s looking.

Since we're doing the anecdotal thing, I'll offer one: my brother in law lives up in the East Beach section of Norfolk. One of his neighbors made an appointment for a WuFlu test at a local pharmacy (don't know if it was CVS, Rite Aid or another). The neighbor ended up cancelling, just because something else came up. But then, a few days later, received in the mail from the pharmacy a positive-test notification.

Is it true? I have no idea. But it is this level of unawareness on which our elected (or unelected) leaders are deciding whether to put us all on lockdown. It is atrocious.

(07-24-2020 05:04 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 10:47 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 08:23 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 08:13 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 06:36 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  I guess all the "trust the CDC" folks are trying to figure out how to pivot again.

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Or they actually listen to what the CDC says and make the best decision for them? Is that a difficult concept?

I wish I had that same option, but folks like you and our governor will not allow it.

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Thats odd because I bet if you wanted to find a school to send your child to in Hampton Roads, you could. I know that cause many of my buddies are doing so.

P.S. Im not sure how I (and folks like me) have control over whats allowed.

This is so disingenuous. “I’m not sure how I have control.” Here’s how: so long as you and others keep bending your knee to the Governor and waxing poetic about how great of a job he’s done with this, he’ll continue to believe it. He’ll keep on going with his power hungry actions, because you know, that’s really what hte people want anyway.

Frankly, I’m not worried about my kids. My wife is a licensed teacher. We have the resources to educate them just fine at home (or send them to private school, if we want). But, what about the families that don’t have the options I have (or your buddies have)? What are they supposed to do?

How would the Governor know that I believe he's done a good job? Should I send him some emails or something?

I agree that a large majority of kids (not all) will be fine. But, people keep glossing over teaching, custodians, school employees, etc. Are we not concerned with them? That is more important to me than the kids, who i think mostly will be fine.

If my kids had to miss 6 months of school, I think they would be fine. I don't think knowing what a carnivore will hurt them too much in the long run. Although what will likley happen is they will have 1-2 hours of school work on the computer. They will learn as much as they do in the classroom.

(07-24-2020 05:35 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 08:19 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  Let’s forget the Trump analysis and stick to COVID.

C’mon, Coach, don’t be naive. President Trump is the ONLY unifying theme in this whole discussion, at least for those defending the shutdown.

I honestly don’t believe that Giles, et al. hate local families and schoolchildren to such an extent that they would unnecessarily inflict upon them another lost school year - - except for the even worse option of taking a position that aligns with the views of our idiot president.

I cannot believe that the lockdown cheerleaders honestly are so coldhearted about preserving jobs for working folks - - but for the overriding need to keep the economy in the tank until November 3.

I personally think that President Trump is an unfunny clown, and would prefer to just ignore his absurd, self-centered antics. But if you (like VB Monarch) are convinced that he is a dangerous villain, leading our nation to a catastrophic future, then the short-term pain inflicted upon the American population is a small price to pay for removing him from office.

I don’t agree, but I do understand it.

They haven't lost any school years.

(07-24-2020 09:52 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:47 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:41 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:18 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  If y’all want to keep this thread going, leave the personal attacks out of the discussion.

I see my post was removed. I said he was creative for his "theory" of Trump being a puppet for the others. Didnt think that was an attack calling someone "creative", even regarding childhood art...

Things getting a little tighter online too I see.

Snuffing out the smack before it goes too far. And don’t act like that was a compliment.

Okey dokie thereee!

So is governor Coonman going to hear out the CDC or not.

Thats great for your buddies Giles. Are they business owners like yourself or random Joes working for the man.

I've looked into the tuition cost of private school (even though my daughter is 16 months) and I could do it, if we wanted and she was of the age. I think what Trump is working on regarding the money following the student is a great idea though.

Lets take me as an example if my daughter was in grade school. Me and Wife work 40 hrs a week. School ops for virtual learning only. We're in some sort of situation then. Well if private schools are open, then it seems like our only choice is for one parent to stay home (lose income) or pay tuition rates of a private school (also essentially losing income not originally accounted for). Great situation to be in because our governor and his buddies below him.

Especially with all the pediatricians and now CDC stating what they have.

Working class people that are sending their kids to private school so they can keep up their full time jobs. They chose this over having one of the parents quit and stay home with the kids. Though, this is eased (somewhat) by a lot of parents still working from home (obviously not all). You do what you gotta do.

(07-24-2020 11:33 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  They haven't lost any school years.

I know you're being argumentative here. There is no chance you believe they didn't lose half the school year this year. Every student, parent, teacher, and administrator I know agrees that the school year effectively ended March 13th.

And, while it's nice to say, "You do what you gotta do," what should I tell the mom of the kid who is currently in the pool with my son? She's a single mom. Has to physically go to work, regardless of what the schools do (her job can figure it out, WalMart can figure it out, but apparently, teachers can't), and there is NO WAY she can afford to quit her job or send her son to private school. And, let me be clear, she isn't looking for a free babysitter. She is looking for the school district to educate her son. If he has to attend virtually, there is no way that is going to happen effectively.

(07-24-2020 11:37 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 09:52 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:47 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:41 AM)Mo Blue Den You Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 08:18 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  If y’all want to keep this thread going, leave the personal attacks out of the discussion.

I see my post was removed. I said he was creative for his "theory" of Trump being a puppet for the others. Didnt think that was an attack calling someone "creative", even regarding childhood art...

Things getting a little tighter online too I see.

Snuffing out the smack before it goes too far. And don’t act like that was a compliment.

Okey dokie thereee!

So is governor Coonman going to hear out the CDC or not.

Thats great for your buddies Giles. Are they business owners like yourself or random Joes working for the man.

I've looked into the tuition cost of private school (even though my daughter is 16 months) and I could do it, if we wanted and she was of the age. I think what Trump is working on regarding the money following the student is a great idea though.

Lets take me as an example if my daughter was in grade school. Me and Wife work 40 hrs a week. School ops for virtual learning only. We're in some sort of situation then. Well if private schools are open, then it seems like our only choice is for one parent to stay home (lose income) or pay tuition rates of a private school (also essentially losing income not originally accounted for). Great situation to be in because our governor and his buddies below him.

Especially with all the pediatricians and now CDC stating what they have.

Working class people that are sending their kids to private school so they can keep up their full time jobs. They chose this over having one of the parents quit and stay home with the kids. Though, this is eased (somewhat) by a lot of parents still working from home (obviously not all). You do what you gotta do.

I agree and I absolutely will. I’m very blessed and fortunate. I would be able to send my child to a private school if that was the only option aside from losing half a households income.

My opinion is the choice to not open schools is really starting to seem more and more political with what the director of the CDC released yesterday.

Powhatan County votes Tuesday night for their return. It will be interesting to see which way we move especially with the entire county not having access to internet. Rural county.

Back to the mask thing, I just read the DC masking policy. Check this out in the exceptions:

Quote:The enforcement provisions of this Order shall not be applied to persons in the judicial or legislative branches of the District government while those persons are on duty; and shall not apply to any employees of the federal government while they are on duty.

'cuz science, you know.

(07-24-2020 11:32 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 05:04 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 10:47 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 08:23 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 08:13 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Or they actually listen to what the CDC says and make the best decision for them? Is that a difficult concept?

I wish I had that same option, but folks like you and our governor will not allow it.

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Thats odd because I bet if you wanted to find a school to send your child to in Hampton Roads, you could. I know that cause many of my buddies are doing so.

P.S. Im not sure how I (and folks like me) have control over whats allowed.

This is so disingenuous. “I’m not sure how I have control.” Here’s how: so long as you and others keep bending your knee to the Governor and waxing poetic about how great of a job he’s done with this, he’ll continue to believe it. He’ll keep on going with his power hungry actions, because you know, that’s really what hte people want anyway.

Frankly, I’m not worried about my kids. My wife is a licensed teacher. We have the resources to educate them just fine at home (or send them to private school, if we want). But, what about the families that don’t have the options I have (or your buddies have)? What are they supposed to do?

How would the Governor know that I believe he's done a good job? Should I send him some emails or something?

I agree that a large majority of kids (not all) will be fine. But, people keep glossing over teaching, custodians, school employees, etc. Are we not concerned with them? That is more important to me than the kids, who i think mostly will be fine.

If my kids had to miss 6 months of school, I think they would be fine. I don't think knowing what a carnivore will hurt them too much in the long run. Although what will likley happen is they will have 1-2 hours of school work on the computer. They will learn as much as they do in the classroom.

In my eyes they’re more essential than Walmart employees and our state run ABC employees but that’s just me...Teachers play the role of being essential when they speak of raises, but not now?

The other argument of teachers wanting to return But the school boards making the decision. Well I’ll believe the teachers want to return when they start protesting and striking for the sake of our nations youth.

Essential doesn’t have a switch you can just turn off. If there is one I sure as hell haven’t found it.

(07-24-2020 11:32 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 05:04 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 10:47 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 08:23 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 08:13 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Or they actually listen to what the CDC says and make the best decision for them? Is that a difficult concept?

I wish I had that same option, but folks like you and our governor will not allow it.

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Thats odd because I bet if you wanted to find a school to send your child to in Hampton Roads, you could. I know that cause many of my buddies are doing so.

P.S. Im not sure how I (and folks like me) have control over whats allowed.

This is so disingenuous. “I’m not sure how I have control.” Here’s how: so long as you and others keep bending your knee to the Governor and waxing poetic about how great of a job he’s done with this, he’ll continue to believe it. He’ll keep on going with his power hungry actions, because you know, that’s really what hte people want anyway.

Frankly, I’m not worried about my kids. My wife is a licensed teacher. We have the resources to educate them just fine at home (or send them to private school, if we want). But, what about the families that don’t have the options I have (or your buddies have)? What are they supposed to do?

How would the Governor know that I believe he's done a good job? Should I send him some emails or something?

I agree that a large majority of kids (not all) will be fine. But, people keep glossing over teaching, custodians, school employees, etc. Are we not concerned with them? That is more important to me than the kids, who i think mostly will be fine.

If my kids had to miss 6 months of school, I think they would be fine. I don't think knowing what a carnivore will hurt them too much in the long run. Although what will likley happen is they will have 1-2 hours of school work on the computer. They will learn as much as they do in the classroom.

Nobody is glossing anything

1. Zero confirmed cases of teachers catching COVID from a student in the entire
world.

2. Why are teachers different than the millions of us who are going to work
everyday?

(07-24-2020 12:05 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 11:32 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 05:04 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 10:47 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 08:23 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  I wish I had that same option, but folks like you and our governor will not allow it.

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Thats odd because I bet if you wanted to find a school to send your child to in Hampton Roads, you could. I know that cause many of my buddies are doing so.

P.S. Im not sure how I (and folks like me) have control over whats allowed.

This is so disingenuous. “I’m not sure how I have control.” Here’s how: so long as you and others keep bending your knee to the Governor and waxing poetic about how great of a job he’s done with this, he’ll continue to believe it. He’ll keep on going with his power hungry actions, because you know, that’s really what hte people want anyway.

Frankly, I’m not worried about my kids. My wife is a licensed teacher. We have the resources to educate them just fine at home (or send them to private school, if we want). But, what about the families that don’t have the options I have (or your buddies have)? What are they supposed to do?

How would the Governor know that I believe he's done a good job? Should I send him some emails or something?

I agree that a large majority of kids (not all) will be fine. But, people keep glossing over teaching, custodians, school employees, etc. Are we not concerned with them? That is more important to me than the kids, who i think mostly will be fine.

If my kids had to miss 6 months of school, I think they would be fine. I don't think knowing what a carnivore will hurt them too much in the long run. Although what will likley happen is they will have 1-2 hours of school work on the computer. They will learn as much as they do in the classroom.

Nobody is glossing anything

1. Zero confirmed cases of teachers catching COVID from a student in the entire
world.

2. Why are teachers different than the millions of us who are going to work
everyday?

I don’t know how much school the rest of the world has had since the pandemic started, but in this country there has been none. So zero confirmed cases in the US would be expected. As for the rest of the world it would depend on how much school has been in session during the pandemic.

Why are teachers different from the millions of us who are going to work? For the same reason that they are different from the millions of us who are teleworking. Every job is different and poses different risks. If you could do you job remotely, why wouldn’t you? Honestly, I would like to see my kids in school. Not because I need to be home because I’m teleworking. I have a senior graduating this year and I want the best experience for him. I’m hoping that at some point this year they will be back in physical school. But I understand the heightened risk and I have a hard time overcoming the risk to myself with diabetes. Schools have always been thought of as germ incubators before the pandemic, but we accepted that risk because the consequences were lower. Should we accept that risk now that the consequences are greater? I just hope that by November we see that in-person school did not result in increased spread of COVID and we can get all students back in school.

(07-24-2020 12:41 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 12:05 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 11:32 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(07-24-2020 05:04 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 10:47 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Thats odd because I bet if you wanted to find a school to send your child to in Hampton Roads, you could. I know that cause many of my buddies are doing so.

P.S. Im not sure how I (and folks like me) have control over whats allowed.

This is so disingenuous. “I’m not sure how I have control.” Here’s how: so long as you and others keep bending your knee to the Governor and waxing poetic about how great of a job he’s done with this, he’ll continue to believe it. He’ll keep on going with his power hungry actions, because you know, that’s really what hte people want anyway.

Frankly, I’m not worried about my kids. My wife is a licensed teacher. We have the resources to educate them just fine at home (or send them to private school, if we want). But, what about the families that don’t have the options I have (or your buddies have)? What are they supposed to do?

How would the Governor know that I believe he's done a good job? Should I send him some emails or something?

I agree that a large majority of kids (not all) will be fine. But, people keep glossing over teaching, custodians, school employees, etc. Are we not concerned with them? That is more important to me than the kids, who i think mostly will be fine.

If my kids had to miss 6 months of school, I think they would be fine. I don't think knowing what a carnivore will hurt them too much in the long run. Although what will likley happen is they will have 1-2 hours of school work on the computer. They will learn as much as they do in the classroom.

Nobody is glossing anything

1. Zero confirmed cases of teachers catching COVID from a student in the entire
world.

2. Why are teachers different than the millions of us who are going to work
everyday?

I don’t know how much school the rest of the world has had since the pandemic started, but in this country there has been none. So zero confirmed cases in the US would be expected. As for the rest of the world it would depend on how much school has been in session during the pandemic.

Why are teachers different from the millions of us who are going to work? For the same reason that they are different from the millions of us who are teleworking. Every job is different and poses different risks. If you could do you job remotely, why wouldn’t you? Honestly, I would like to see my kids in school. Not because I need to be home because I’m teleworking. I have a senior graduating this year and I want the best experience for him. I’m hoping that at some point this year they will be back in physical school. But I understand the heightened risk and I have a hard time overcoming the risk to myself with diabetes. Schools have always been thought of as germ incubators before the pandemic, but we accepted that risk because the consequences were lower. Should we accept that risk now that the consequences are greater? I just hope that by November we see that in-person school did not result in increased spread of COVID and we can get all students back in school.

November sounds about right. I imagine we will find out that kids can safely go back to school sometime shortly after November 3.

A bunch of countries reopened the schools (or in some cases, never closed them). Very, very few outbreaks. We don't shut the schools down during flu season, so why now?

https://freopp.org/reopening-americas-sc...b35e3e32c4