I work in brand marketing and have been in contact with the athletic departments of multiple Big Ten and other P5 programs about COVID's impact on the upcoming season since we're invested in various marketing opportunities with their football teams. General consensus seems to be that they'll play the games with limited capacity (25% or so) with essentially no extra events around the games (e.g. tailgating, the bands), pending state and local regulations as the conferences won't get involved with that political game. Believe me or not because I'm just some dude on the internet after all, and it could turn out to be completely incorrect, but that's how it was.

The powers that be are gonna be pissed! Love and Honor just spoiled the entire college football season.

I'm starting to think if FB is played...no fans is a real possibility.

Politics is a biotch...

With the student athletes continue getting the virus? This includes football players this month, next month, September, October, November, December, January and beyond? Football may not be played until fall of 2021 or until a vaccine could be found.

(07-01-2020 10:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  With the student athletes continue getting the virus? This includes football players this month, next month, September, October, November, December, January and beyond? Football may not be played until fall of 2021 or until a vaccine could be found.

I wonder what the odds of getting the rona through football are vs just getting it from "normal" life?

If football is played, I expect games to be cancelled. A team getting an outbreak will be down for a minimum of three weeks realistically, and that's assuming everyone who gets sick does so at the same time.

(07-01-2020 10:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  With the student athletes continue getting the virus? This includes football players this month, next month, September, October, November, December, January and beyond? Football may not be played until fall of 2021 or until a vaccine could be found.

With a record 50,000 new cases today, the chances of having a 2020-21 college basketball season are starting to appear increasingly unlikely.

(07-01-2020 10:50 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 10:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  With the student athletes continue getting the virus? This includes football players this month, next month, September, October, November, December, January and beyond? Football may not be played until fall of 2021 or until a vaccine could be found.

With a record 50,000 new cases today, the chances of having a 2020-21 college basketball season are starting to appear increasingly unlikely.

I wonder if any team would be willing to try and get it as a team now to get it over with? Like when you wanted your kid to play with kids that had chicken pox, to get it over with while we were young.

(07-01-2020 09:01 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  I work in brand marketing and have been in contact with the athletic departments of multiple Big Ten and other P5 programs about COVID's impact on the upcoming season since we're invested in various marketing opportunities with their football teams. General consensus seems to be that they'll play the games with limited capacity (25% or so) with essentially no extra events around the games (e.g. tailgating, the bands), pending state and local regulations as the conferences won't get involved with that political game. Believe me or not because I'm just some dude on the internet after all, and it could turn out to be completely incorrect, but that's how it was.

While on-site tailgating will be banned, it's just gonna feed the bars and student ghetto partying up to a greater level.

(07-02-2020 06:28 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 10:50 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 10:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  With the student athletes continue getting the virus? This includes football players this month, next month, September, October, November, December, January and beyond? Football may not be played until fall of 2021 or until a vaccine could be found.

With a record 50,000 new cases today, the chances of having a 2020-21 college basketball season are starting to appear increasingly unlikely.

I wonder if any team would be willing to try and get it as a team now to get it over with? Like when you wanted your kid to play with kids that had chicken pox, to get it over with while we were young.

Unlike chicken pox, you can get this multiple times.

I can’t speak to anyone else but South Carolina is planning to play at a reduced capacity with a mask requirement, waivers, and seating spaced out. This is probably a bit optimistic though and I think they’re likely going to have to cut back to few if any fans

(07-02-2020 06:28 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 10:50 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 10:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  With the student athletes continue getting the virus? This includes football players this month, next month, September, October, November, December, January and beyond? Football may not be played until fall of 2021 or until a vaccine could be found.

With a record 50,000 new cases today, the chances of having a 2020-21 college basketball season are starting to appear increasingly unlikely.

I wonder if any team would be willing to try and get it as a team now to get it over with? Like when you wanted your kid to play with kids that had chicken pox, to get it over with while we were young.

I have seen reports that say that any antibodies with Covid are temporary.

If so, that means no "herd immunity" and the fact exists that you can contract it multiple times.

Does anyone have any studies that conclude that "herd immunity" with Covid is a legitimate thing?

(07-02-2020 06:28 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  I wonder if any team would be willing to try and get it as a team now to get it over with? Like when you wanted your kid to play with kids that had chicken pox, to get it over with while we were young.

I can’t stress enough that this is a bad idea. In the early 1990s, about 150 Americans would die each year from chickenpox. Yesterday alone, 645 Americans died from Covid. Don’t be fooled about it only impacting the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions. It hits people arbitrarily. Also, a lot of people have pre-existing conditions that haven’t been diagnosed just because they haven’t surfaced as problems yet. If you’re a healthy student-athlete, do not test your luck.

(07-02-2020 06:48 AM)CenterSquarEd Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 06:28 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  I wonder if any team would be willing to try and get it as a team now to get it over with? Like when you wanted your kid to play with kids that had chicken pox, to get it over with while we were young.

I can’t stress enough that this is a bad idea. In the early 1990s, about 150 Americans would die each year from chickenpox. Yesterday alone, 645 Americans died from Covid. Don’t be fooled about it only impacting the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions. It hits people arbitrarily. Also, a lot of people have pre-existing conditions that haven’t been diagnosed just because they haven’t surfaced as problems yet. If you’re a healthy student-athlete, do not test your luck.

+1.
This is a virus which attacks the lungs. Plus, the liability of permitting them to become infected is just asking to liquidated.

We are eight weeks from Week 0 and just two weeks from when camps are to begin. With many schools asking incoming students and their parents to self-quarantine for 14 days before moving into a campus residence hall, they basically need to stop workouts now and self-isolate all players and staff for two weeks ASAP. And we know that's not happening.

Dr. Robert Robbins of the University of Arizona was basically the first P5 president of note to publcly state they had their plan and would run their own testing and have their athletes in a safe position back in April. How's that working out? And before Arizona, he was the CEO of the Texas Medical Center in Houston and a cardaic surgeon. He is much less confident now than he was in April.

(07-02-2020 07:16 AM)Renandpat Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 06:48 AM)CenterSquarEd Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 06:28 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  I wonder if any team would be willing to try and get it as a team now to get it over with? Like when you wanted your kid to play with kids that had chicken pox, to get it over with while we were young.

I can’t stress enough that this is a bad idea. In the early 1990s, about 150 Americans would die each year from chickenpox. Yesterday alone, 645 Americans died from Covid. Don’t be fooled about it only impacting the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions. It hits people arbitrarily. Also, a lot of people have pre-existing conditions that haven’t been diagnosed just because they haven’t surfaced as problems yet. If you’re a healthy student-athlete, do not test your luck.

+1.
This is a virus which attacks the lungs. Plus, the liability of permitting them to become infected is just asking to liquidated.

We are eight weeks from Week 0 and just two weeks from when camps are to begin. With many schools asking incoming students and their parents to self-quarantine for 14 days before moving into a campus residence hall, they basically need to stop workouts now and self-isolate all players and staff for two weeks ASAP. And we know that's not happening.

Dr. Robert Robbins of the University of Arizona was basically the first P5 president of note to publcly state they had their plan and would run their own testing and have their athletes in a safe position back in April. How's that working out? And before Arizona, he was the CEO of the Texas Medical Center in Houston and a cardaic surgeon. He is much less confident now than he was in April.

Last time I checked, the flu doesn't cause clotting issues in multiple organs.

(07-02-2020 06:43 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 06:28 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 10:50 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 10:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  With the student athletes continue getting the virus? This includes football players this month, next month, September, October, November, December, January and beyond? Football may not be played until fall of 2021 or until a vaccine could be found.

With a record 50,000 new cases today, the chances of having a 2020-21 college basketball season are starting to appear increasingly unlikely.

I wonder if any team would be willing to try and get it as a team now to get it over with? Like when you wanted your kid to play with kids that had chicken pox, to get it over with while we were young.

I have seen reports that say that any antibodies with Covid are temporary.

If so, that means no "herd immunity" and the fact exists that you can contract it multiple times.

Does anyone have any studies that conclude that "herd immunity" with Covid is a legitimate thing?

Does anybody have studies that conclude that you can get it multiple times?

(07-02-2020 12:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 06:43 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 06:28 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 10:50 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 10:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  With the student athletes continue getting the virus? This includes football players this month, next month, September, October, November, December, January and beyond? Football may not be played until fall of 2021 or until a vaccine could be found.

With a record 50,000 new cases today, the chances of having a 2020-21 college basketball season are starting to appear increasingly unlikely.

I wonder if any team would be willing to try and get it as a team now to get it over with? Like when you wanted your kid to play with kids that had chicken pox, to get it over with while we were young.

I have seen reports that say that any antibodies with Covid are temporary.

If so, that means no "herd immunity" and the fact exists that you can contract it multiple times.

Does anyone have any studies that conclude that "herd immunity" with Covid is a legitimate thing?

Does anybody have studies that conclude that you can get it multiple times?

There is a statement in WSJ today that it can only be gotten once.

(07-02-2020 12:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 06:43 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 06:28 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 10:50 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 10:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  With the student athletes continue getting the virus? This includes football players this month, next month, September, October, November, December, January and beyond? Football may not be played until fall of 2021 or until a vaccine could be found.

With a record 50,000 new cases today, the chances of having a 2020-21 college basketball season are starting to appear increasingly unlikely.

I wonder if any team would be willing to try and get it as a team now to get it over with? Like when you wanted your kid to play with kids that had chicken pox, to get it over with while we were young.

I have seen reports that say that any antibodies with Covid are temporary.

If so, that means no "herd immunity" and the fact exists that you can contract it multiple times.

Does anyone have any studies that conclude that "herd immunity" with Covid is a legitimate thing?

Does anybody have studies that conclude that you can get it multiple times?

Not that I know of but it's still pretty early on to know. It's shown that most people develop antibodies after recovery which should protect you and it's believed that the antibodies should last at least a few months. The question is if it will be long term. Some recent studies have shown that that the antibodies reduce relatively quickly but nothings known for certain. There have been people that have tested positive after recovery but I think the consensus is that it's likely residual virus from initial infection was still in their system. So....who knows?

All the discussions about games and fans during the fall are missing perspective. Currently, we have been unable to control the spread of the virus. Some countries (e.g., New Zealand, South Korea, etc.) are in a good place to bring back some traditional social activities. A few other places (e.g., Germany and varied European nations) are in a good trajectory due to controlling the spread.

In the US if you are ill and need a test, it frequently takes a week to get the virus test result...at which point, it’s nearly pointless to attempt contact tracing and pretend that we’re preventing further spread. What’s occurring in Florida, Texas, Arizona and California today is getting close to what occurred in New York and New Jersey two months ago. The virus is spreading faster than the health care system can manage.

At this point, having any fans at games during the fall is extremely wishful thinking. In many states, there’s a lot of work to be done before games or practices (without any live fans) can start.

(07-02-2020 12:24 PM)IHAVETRIED Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 12:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 06:43 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 06:28 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 10:50 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  With a record 50,000 new cases today, the chances of having a 2020-21 college basketball season are starting to appear increasingly unlikely.

I wonder if any team would be willing to try and get it as a team now to get it over with? Like when you wanted your kid to play with kids that had chicken pox, to get it over with while we were young.

I have seen reports that say that any antibodies with Covid are temporary.

If so, that means no "herd immunity" and the fact exists that you can contract it multiple times.

Does anyone have any studies that conclude that "herd immunity" with Covid is a legitimate thing?

Does anybody have studies that conclude that you can get it multiple times?

There is a statement in WSJ today that it can only be gotten once.

I seen a report that the CDC, has subtly punted on slowing or containing the virus. and that herd immunity or waiting for a vaccine are the only 2 real options left.