(06-25-2020 03:36 PM)mrbig Wrote: I didn't think your question or the premise of your question were valid because they were based on a misunderstanding or misrepresentation of what I wrote and meant. So I tweaked them to help you understand what I meant and wrote, rather than what you misinterpreted my comment to mean.
You're admitting here that you were so insistent on making YOUR point, that you completely ignored OUR point. You keep saying we misinterpreted what you said, but that's because you knew we would be offended, but didn't understand why. Rather than seek to understand why, you continue to insist that we have no justification for it, even though ALL of us reached the same conclusion?
The reality is, as i understand it... At Ease DID directly compare at least some of us to bots, and you came to his defense.... and apparently for your own 'joy'.... and nothing in your defense of his position implied anything but that he was absolutely right to feel the way he did.
Quote:If my argument was indistinguishable from that of a dembot and you said that my argument was indistinguishable from a dembot's, why would I be insulted for you stating the truth? I'd agree with you. If you accused me of being a dembot, I would provide you with my explanation for reaching those conclusions and any research I had done in coming to those conclusions (which I have done on this site numerous times). If you still insisted on calling me a dembot ... I'd probably just move on. I'm insulted if you call me a liar, not if you call me a dembot or Bidenbot or anything similar. It doesn't get my boxer-briefs in a wad.
No. What seems to get our boxers in a wad is any flippant paraphrasing of 'your' words, while you enjoy free reign with ours.
Your premise above requires that you agree that you were indistinguishable from a 'bot'. That is precisely the premise we reject, and are insulted by, and you knew we would be insulted by the inference.
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You knew we would be offended by your comparison and you said it anyway.
You keep writing this. Sure I was poking the bear a little, but I didn't expect any of you to actually give two *****. It was like I was poking you with a piece of cotton fluff, and I definitely was not calling anyone a Trumpbot just by noting that some of the arguments made and conclusions reached on this forum by non-Trumpbots are the same as those made/reached by a trumpbot. [/quote]
I keep saying it because you keep dismissing it and claiming an innocent 'misunderstanding' that is somehow, our collective fault and not yours. As I said earlier, when I insult someone, I own it. You said you did too... but you're clearly not.... because you don't agree we should be offended.
Our offense does not require your acquiescence.
Quote: (06-25-2020 02:52 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: At this point, I really don't care anymore that you don't understand why we're offended.
That makes 2 of us...
Something you've made abundantly clear from the start.... and STILL you don't care to understand. You should think about that.
That's the issue for me. I think most of us assumed that when you said "I don't understand' that you would want help/information to understand... but you don't. In fact, it apparently 'brings you joy' to insult us, but doesn't 'bring you joy' to understand us.
You gave a perfect example in your response above... IF my argument was indistinguishable from a dembot. Well, our arguments are not only EASILY distinguishable from dembots, but they are CLEARLY distinguishable from each other.... so we don't agree. In fact, the mere fact that we are intelligent people who reach our own conclusions using our own sources differentiates our arguments from theirs.
I don't watch Fox... haven't watched it (other than occasionally local 26) since 2010. Visited an older friend who had OAN on in the background... was mildly offended by it, as I am of most network news... I SURE as hell don't have a MAGA hat (have never actually seen one in person) nor do I frequent right wing sites. 90% of what I say comes from seeing the regularly scheduled rant of the day from the left, and using my own knowledge and google searches, most often choosing sites like CNN or similar to ensure no confirmation bias, to come up with a determination on its relevance and accuracy. Any similarity between my position, what I said, why I said it, the argument that I used and any of the sources you mentioned is PURELY coincidental.... and yet you can't tell the difference.
And let's be honest... because you've danced around this as well. You clearly don't hold those groups or their arguments or conclusions in high regard. You choose the adjective... but none of them are flattering... and you find us or our arguments and conclusions frequently indistinguishable from them, yet you don't understand why that's insulting.
I'm sorry, Big... I don't believe that you don't understand why it's insulting... other than in the same sort of 'if I believe it's true, then it's not insulting' that you used in your example. YOU think it's true, so WE shouldn't be offended, even if we disagree that it is true. It's the fact that you think it's true that is offensive... not the 'poking the bear' joke about it.