(05-31-2020 07:52 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:19 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 06:02 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:00 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 09:53 AM)mccarverslawyer Wrote:  Yes, he didn't want to deal with tough defense in practice - so he goes to Texas Tech because of course Texas Tech and their HC are not known for enforcing a hard, no gambling physical defense and style of play. This message board has gotten to the point it's not even worth a Sunday morning visit.

I thought my comment was a well thought out opinion. I'm sorry it offended you on a Sunday morning.

I don't follow the big 12 or Texas Tech so I have no idea what type of defense they have. Nor do I care. I just added my opinion and obviously upset you. And on Sunday morning no less. Maybe one day we can all be just as fluent of all college basketball programs as you proport to be?

As for me I'll just stick with being an ignorant Tigers fan regardless of day.


Edit: Oh, I see you live in Connecticut? That know-it-all mentality that is so common up there must have worn off on you? Or maybe you had that smarty-pants attitude intact when you relocated there?

You had no idea Texas Tech was any good?


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18-13 and 9-9 in conference. That's good?

Tubby thinks it is. What did he say ? We were predicted to finish what 5/6/7th ?in the conference --and thats where we finished --he asked some media so whats the problem.

Tubby was an aim low to hit your target kind of guy.

(06-02-2020 05:11 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:52 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:19 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 06:02 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:00 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  I thought my comment was a well thought out opinion. I'm sorry it offended you on a Sunday morning.

I don't follow the big 12 or Texas Tech so I have no idea what type of defense they have. Nor do I care. I just added my opinion and obviously upset you. And on Sunday morning no less. Maybe one day we can all be just as fluent of all college basketball programs as you proport to be?

As for me I'll just stick with being an ignorant Tigers fan regardless of day.


Edit: Oh, I see you live in Connecticut? That know-it-all mentality that is so common up there must have worn off on you? Or maybe you had that smarty-pants attitude intact when you relocated there?

You had no idea Texas Tech was any good?


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18-13 and 9-9 in conference. That's good?

Tubby thinks it is. What did he say ? We were predicted to finish what 5/6/7th ?in the conference --and thats where we finished --he asked some media so whats the problem.

Tubby was an aim low to hit your target kind of guy.

Tubby has probably cashed his last big check after the mess he pulled here.

Bad investment, and so disattached that I doubt he will even make a good TV guy. Would likely make Woloshin look like Einstein when it comes to game prep.

What a disaster that was

(06-02-2020 05:11 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:52 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:19 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 06:02 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:00 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  I thought my comment was a well thought out opinion. I'm sorry it offended you on a Sunday morning.

I don't follow the big 12 or Texas Tech so I have no idea what type of defense they have. Nor do I care. I just added my opinion and obviously upset you. And on Sunday morning no less. Maybe one day we can all be just as fluent of all college basketball programs as you proport to be?

As for me I'll just stick with being an ignorant Tigers fan regardless of day.


Edit: Oh, I see you live in Connecticut? That know-it-all mentality that is so common up there must have worn off on you? Or maybe you had that smarty-pants attitude intact when you relocated there?

You had no idea Texas Tech was any good?


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18-13 and 9-9 in conference. That's good?

Tubby thinks it is. What did he say ? We were predicted to finish what 5/6/7th ?in the conference --and thats where we finished --he asked some media so whats the problem.

Tubby was an aim low to hit your target kind of guy.

And, now we've got an aim high, finish 6th place in the AAC guy.

So, more bravado and same results.

Yay?

(06-02-2020 11:39 AM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 05:11 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:52 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:19 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 06:02 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  You had no idea Texas Tech was any good?


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18-13 and 9-9 in conference. That's good?

Tubby thinks it is. What did he say ? We were predicted to finish what 5/6/7th ?in the conference --and thats where we finished --he asked some media so whats the problem.

Tubby was an aim low to hit your target kind of guy.

And, now we've got an aim high, finish 6th place in the AAC guy.

So, more bravado and same results.

Yay?

I think our future is in much better hands now. At least fans and donations are back and there is excitement about the program. Wouldn’t have happened with tubby.

(06-02-2020 05:11 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:52 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:19 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 06:02 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:00 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  I thought my comment was a well thought out opinion. I'm sorry it offended you on a Sunday morning.

I don't follow the big 12 or Texas Tech so I have no idea what type of defense they have. Nor do I care. I just added my opinion and obviously upset you. And on Sunday morning no less. Maybe one day we can all be just as fluent of all college basketball programs as you proport to be?

As for me I'll just stick with being an ignorant Tigers fan regardless of day.


Edit: Oh, I see you live in Connecticut? That know-it-all mentality that is so common up there must have worn off on you? Or maybe you had that smarty-pants attitude intact when you relocated there?

You had no idea Texas Tech was any good?


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18-13 and 9-9 in conference. That's good?

Tubby thinks it is. What did he say ? We were predicted to finish what 5/6/7th ?in the conference --and thats where we finished --he asked some media so whats the problem.

Tubby was an aim low to hit your target kind of guy.

YEP

(06-02-2020 12:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 05:11 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:52 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:19 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 06:02 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  You had no idea Texas Tech was any good?


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18-13 and 9-9 in conference. That's good?

Tubby thinks it is. What did he say ? We were predicted to finish what 5/6/7th ?in the conference --and thats where we finished --he asked some media so whats the problem.

Tubby was an aim low to hit your target kind of guy.

YEP

Does it really matter where you aim if the arrow ends up in the same place.

(06-02-2020 02:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 12:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 05:11 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:52 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:19 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  18-13 and 9-9 in conference. That's good?

Tubby thinks it is. What did he say ? We were predicted to finish what 5/6/7th ?in the conference --and thats where we finished --he asked some media so whats the problem.

Tubby was an aim low to hit your target kind of guy.

YEP

Does it really matter where you aim if the arrow ends up in the same place.

The financial folks at Memphis say, "why yes it does".
At least they did before COVID.

(06-02-2020 02:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 12:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 05:11 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:52 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:19 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  18-13 and 9-9 in conference. That's good?

Tubby thinks it is. What did he say ? We were predicted to finish what 5/6/7th ?in the conference --and thats where we finished --he asked some media so whats the problem.

Tubby was an aim low to hit your target kind of guy.

YEP

Does it really matter where you aim if the arrow ends up in the same place.

Hey--it does matter where you aim IMO-----but I would rather have Penny over 800 million Tubbys---atleast Penny actually works--puts in effort. ----but I get it---and I have stated before---if Penny don't get Cisse---its a bad sign IMO... the putting of all eggs in one basket in the recruitment of Green/Brown/....its like Penny learned nothing in Hamptons recruitment. I could be wrong ---I was once--but I think we lost great/good local/area players that would have been TIGERS by chasing players that had no intentions of going to college---regardless of the statments made to the contrary . I think by Penny basically chasing the pie in the sky so to speak --that he may have pizzed off some area players and coaches----thus leaving us having to scramble, hoping for transfers.......and you are correct--6th place is still 6th place---and if it continues the excitement for Penny will diminish . Heck---even the broadcast announcers blasted our play and Pennys style ---by calling our play as out of controll AAU undisciplined play ground ball. PENNY NEEDS TO GET CISSE----to stop the leak in that wall around the area.

(06-02-2020 02:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 12:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 05:11 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:52 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:19 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  18-13 and 9-9 in conference. That's good?

Tubby thinks it is. What did he say ? We were predicted to finish what 5/6/7th ?in the conference --and thats where we finished --he asked some media so whats the problem.

Tubby was an aim low to hit your target kind of guy.

YEP

Does it really matter where you aim if the arrow ends up in the same place.

Absolutely

Both finish the same. The one who aims low fees satisfied and no need to be better, goal was achieved. The one who aims high will feel dissatisfied and like the goal was not meet resulting in harder work and realization that better results are desired and needed.

(06-02-2020 07:04 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 12:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 05:11 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 07:52 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Tubby thinks it is. What did he say ? We were predicted to finish what 5/6/7th ?in the conference --and thats where we finished --he asked some media so whats the problem.

Tubby was an aim low to hit your target kind of guy.

YEP

Does it really matter where you aim if the arrow ends up in the same place.

Absolutely

Both finish the same. The one who aims low fees satisfied and no need to be better, goal was achieved. The one who aims high will feel dissatisfied and like the goal was not meet resulting in harder work and realization that better results are desired and needed.

Desire to do better and the ability to do so are two different things.

Not saying Penny doesn't have the ability but he really has something to prove this coming year.

(06-02-2020 09:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 07:04 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 12:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 05:11 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  Tubby was an aim low to hit your target kind of guy.

YEP

Does it really matter where you aim if the arrow ends up in the same place.

Absolutely

Both finish the same. The one who aims low fees satisfied and no need to be better, goal was achieved. The one who aims high will feel dissatisfied and like the goal was not meet resulting in harder work and realization that better results are desired and needed.

Desire to do better and the ability to do so are two different things.

Not saying Penny doesn't have the ability but he really has something to prove this coming year.

The teams effort was the best I’ve seen since maybe the Finch days. Last year was much more enjoyable to watch than any in the last 25 years, save Cal’s last 4.5 (from when Sean Banks left the team).

(06-02-2020 09:43 PM)micman Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 09:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 07:04 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 12:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  YEP

Does it really matter where you aim if the arrow ends up in the same place.

Absolutely

Both finish the same. The one who aims low fees satisfied and no need to be better, goal was achieved. The one who aims high will feel dissatisfied and like the goal was not meet resulting in harder work and realization that better results are desired and needed.

Desire to do better and the ability to do so are two different things.

Not saying Penny doesn't have the ability but he really has something to prove this coming year.

The teams effort was the best I’ve seen since maybe the Finch days. Last year was much more enjoyable to watch than any in the last 25 years, save Cal’s last 4.5 (from when Sean Banks left the team).

Agree

(06-02-2020 09:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 07:04 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 12:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 05:11 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  Tubby was an aim low to hit your target kind of guy.

YEP

Does it really matter where you aim if the arrow ends up in the same place.

Absolutely

Both finish the same. The one who aims low fees satisfied and no need to be better, goal was achieved. The one who aims high will feel dissatisfied and like the goal was not meet resulting in harder work and realization that better results are desired and needed.

Desire to do better and the ability to do so are two different things.

Not saying Penny doesn't have the ability but he really has something to prove this coming year.

Sure but I will take the guy who desires to do better every time over the one that is satisfied with mediocrity.

Hard to believe there's any debate. Penny had a good team assembled last season but also had it disrupted by the JW deal, then injuries to key players - DJ & LQ. So IMO Penny gets an obvious pass for last season & his team seemed to over achiever his 1st year. Even missing Brown & Green, he's recruited much better than Tubby. We'll see the trend over the next couple of years & for sure we're much better off financially.

(06-06-2020 07:19 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Hard to believe there's any debate. Penny had a good team assembled last season but also had it disrupted by the JW deal, then injuries to key players - DJ & LQ. So IMO Penny gets an obvious pass for last season & his team seemed to over achiever his 1st year. Even missing Brown & Green, he's recruited much better than Tubby. We'll see the trend over the next couple of years & for sure we're much better off financially.

Absolutely!

(06-06-2020 07:19 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Hard to believe there's any debate. Penny had a good team assembled last season but also had it disrupted by the JW deal, then injuries to key players - DJ & LQ. So IMO Penny gets an obvious pass for last season & his team seemed to over achiever his 1st year. Even missing Brown & Green, he's recruited much better than Tubby. We'll see the trend over the next couple of years & for sure we're much better off financially.

He gets a pass on the season in terms of results, sure. My biggest question with his coaching game plans and style is does he have to have significantly more talent than most of his opponents to be successful? Based on what I have seen from his coaching at Memphis and East and what I heard about AAU I'm really scared that his style falls in that category. Not many schools can rely on that regularly.

(06-02-2020 09:43 PM)micman Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 09:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 07:04 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 12:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  YEP

Does it really matter where you aim if the arrow ends up in the same place.

Absolutely

Both finish the same. The one who aims low fees satisfied and no need to be better, goal was achieved. The one who aims high will feel dissatisfied and like the goal was not meet resulting in harder work and realization that better results are desired and needed.

Desire to do better and the ability to do so are two different things.

Not saying Penny doesn't have the ability but he really has something to prove this coming year.

The teams effort was the best I’ve seen since maybe the Finch days. Last year was much more enjoyable to watch than any in the last 25 years, save Cal’s last 4.5 (from when Sean Banks left the team).

Were we watching the same team? It was some terrible basketball. No scoring and those turnovers... Really hard to watch.

(06-07-2020 07:25 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 09:43 PM)micman Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 09:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 07:04 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Does it really matter where you aim if the arrow ends up in the same place.

Absolutely

Both finish the same. The one who aims low fees satisfied and no need to be better, goal was achieved. The one who aims high will feel dissatisfied and like the goal was not meet resulting in harder work and realization that better results are desired and needed.

Desire to do better and the ability to do so are two different things.

Not saying Penny doesn't have the ability but he really has something to prove this coming year.

The teams effort was the best I’ve seen since maybe the Finch days. Last year was much more enjoyable to watch than any in the last 25 years, save Cal’s last 4.5 (from when Sean Banks left the team).

Were we watching the same team? It was some terrible basketball. No scoring and those turnovers... Really hard to watch.

Agree...it was alarming how often the stupid turnovers occurred and it didn't seem that much was ever really done to correct it. Penny was a better coach his first year but it helps when you have a guard like J. Martin to run the show.

(06-07-2020 07:25 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 09:43 PM)micman Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 09:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 07:04 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 02:38 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Does it really matter where you aim if the arrow ends up in the same place.

Absolutely

Both finish the same. The one who aims low fees satisfied and no need to be better, goal was achieved. The one who aims high will feel dissatisfied and like the goal was not meet resulting in harder work and realization that better results are desired and needed.

Desire to do better and the ability to do so are two different things.

Not saying Penny doesn't have the ability but he really has something to prove this coming year.

The teams effort was the best I’ve seen since maybe the Finch days. Last year was much more enjoyable to watch than any in the last 25 years, save Cal’s last 4.5 (from when Sean Banks left the team).

Were we watching the same team? It was some terrible basketball. No scoring and those turnovers... Really hard to watch.

I enjoy watching effort, especially good defense, team chemistry, unselfishness (all the things that the Pastner teams lacked). I have faith that execution will come with experience. I think most of the turnovers were unselfish, so I'm less concerned about them than I would if the team made them out of a bunch of one-on-one plays.

(06-07-2020 11:17 PM)micman Wrote:  

(06-07-2020 07:25 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 09:43 PM)micman Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 09:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 07:04 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  Absolutely

Both finish the same. The one who aims low fees satisfied and no need to be better, goal was achieved. The one who aims high will feel dissatisfied and like the goal was not meet resulting in harder work and realization that better results are desired and needed.

Desire to do better and the ability to do so are two different things.

Not saying Penny doesn't have the ability but he really has something to prove this coming year.

The teams effort was the best I’ve seen since maybe the Finch days. Last year was much more enjoyable to watch than any in the last 25 years, save Cal’s last 4.5 (from when Sean Banks left the team).

Were we watching the same team? It was some terrible basketball. No scoring and those turnovers... Really hard to watch.

I enjoy watching effort, especially good defense, team chemistry, unselfishness (all the things that the Pastner teams lacked). I have faith that execution will come with experience. I think most of the turnovers were unselfish, so I'm less concerned about them than I would if the team made them out of a bunch of one-on-one plays.

Easily agree, micman. Penny gets everything out of his guys in terms of effort. Now, can he get all out of their talent? We'll see. But he knows the game and he's very very relatable to players. I've shocked by his in game decision making and game planning. He motivates well. He energizes the team and fan base. I'm not sure what more we could want. A former Dukie on staff so the NCAA would get off our nuts?