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RE: If the Big 12 were to lose 4 teams, which teams would the conference reload with?
(06-02-2020 01:28 AM)jedclampett Wrote: Those are pretty good arguments, but I think that Boise FB has had the top viewership numbers among non-P5 teams over the past 5 years.
If Boise St. can't get into the Big 12, it's probably mostly because they're not as strong in BB/olympic sports as they are in FB, and because the Big 12 won't want any FB-only schools.
I hadn't considered the anti-LGBTQ issue. Wonder if BYU would be willing to change the objectionable policies if that would be enough to get them into a P5 conference. My guess is that more than half of BYU fans would encourage such a change. As with Catholic and Evangelical Christians, Mormon attitudes about gender & sexuality have been evolving rapidly, esp. among generations Y and Z.
Personally, I'm inclined to think that Memphis might be the top choice of the Big 12, because they are within driving distance and that the Big 12 would add at least one MWC team, probably Colorado State.
I'm from the midwest myself, originally, and just as east coast people have a preference to play east coast schools, midwesterners tend to prefer watching games vs. midwestern opponents.
If I had attended Baylor or Kansas - - and if those were among the remaining Big 12 schools, I'd probably rather see the conference add Colorado State, Houston, and Memphis (relatively close by, not too different culturally) than to add an east coast school, and Memphis would only get in because West Virginia needs a regional rival. I might even prefer to see Tulane or Rice added because of their geographic proximity, than to add an east coast school, but would probably be persuaded to add Cincy as a 4th school if that would be necessary in order to preserve the status of the Big 12 as a power conference, and to help keep West Virginia in the conference.
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But replacing only the 4 displaced teams would probably be a bad idea.
They would be better off, and would have a better chance of preserving preserve their power conference status if they were to expand to 12 or 14 teams.
So I think it's more likely they would re-expand to 12, so that the name "Big 12" would make sense again.
In that case, UCF and USF might be the 11th and 12th schools, as I see it. I could also seeing the 11th and 12th schools as being UCF and SDSU, because it would give ESPN a conference that spans the 4 time zones.
East: WVU, Iowa State,^ Memphis, Cincy, UCF, & USF
West: Kansas,^ K State,^ Baylor, Houston, TCU (or Texas Tech), & Colorado State
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East: WVU, Iowa State,^ Memphis, Cincy, Houston,* & UCF
West: Kansas,^ K State,^ Baylor,* TCU (or Texas Tech), UCSD, & Colorado State
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*Baylor and Houston would have a cross-division game every year.
^Iowa State would play a cross-division game with Kansas or K State every year.
UCF gets better ratings than Boise the last 5 years. Also you don’t seem to understand, Boise WILL NOT be added due to remote location and academics. San Diego State is maybe the 8th best candidate for expansion, UCF and usf both bring a better state for football, big markets that we actually have a foothold in, and better football success. UCF has a better fanbase, and a much bigger brand. Memphis has the same problem as Boise, academics. Their location is much better than Boise but academics will still hold them back when compared to Houston, Cincy, UCF, usf, Colorado State, BYU, etc.
(This post was last modified: 06-02-2020 10:11 AM by BraveKnight.)
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