RE: Ahmaud Arbery, 25, Killed while Burglarizing in Georgia
(05-13-2020 11:23 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: I'm not a fan of open carry. It seems to be used for intimidation. I prefer concealed carry. When hundreds of thousands or millions of people in your state concealed carry, it keeps people polite.
I need to get my CCW, but not for what you think.
I get nervous around the people who always carry a gun and have no problem pulling it out when they smell a fart that isn't theirs. That's why I'd want to carry concealed to protect myself from the idiots who shouldn't be trusted with a water gun.
RE: Ahmaud Arbery, 25, Killed while Burglarizing in Georgia
(05-13-2020 11:23 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: I'm not a fan of open carry. It seems to be used for intimidation. I prefer concealed carry. When hundreds of thousands or millions of people in your state concealed carry, it keeps people polite.
Yep, when the bad guy sees you are carrying you'll be the first person he shoots at.
RE: Ahmaud Arbery, 25, Killed while Burglarizing in Georgia
(05-13-2020 11:25 AM)gdunn Wrote:
(05-13-2020 11:23 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: I'm not a fan of open carry. It seems to be used for intimidation. I prefer concealed carry. When hundreds of thousands or millions of people in your state concealed carry, it keeps people polite.
I need to get my CCW, but not for what you think.
I get nervous around the people who always carry a gun and have no problem pulling it out when they smell a fart that isn't theirs. That's why I'd want to carry concealed to protect myself from the idiots who shouldn't be trusted with a water gun.
Um...who are you hanging around with that does that? I've never seen that happen...once. And I was one of those that would open carry on occasion...and most of my friends did as well.
RE: Ahmaud Arbery, 25, Killed while Burglarizing in Georgia
(05-13-2020 11:30 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:
(05-13-2020 11:25 AM)gdunn Wrote:
(05-13-2020 11:23 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: I'm not a fan of open carry. It seems to be used for intimidation. I prefer concealed carry. When hundreds of thousands or millions of people in your state concealed carry, it keeps people polite.
I need to get my CCW, but not for what you think.
I get nervous around the people who always carry a gun and have no problem pulling it out when they smell a fart that isn't theirs. That's why I'd want to carry concealed to protect myself from the idiots who shouldn't be trusted with a water gun.
Um...who are you hanging around with that does that? I've never seen that happen...once. And I was one of those that would open carry on occasion...and most of my friends did as well.
Nobody I know personally. You know the type..
I gawt me a gawn and nobawdy gonna mess with me and muh family.. I'll put it between ner' eyes.
Quote:Open carry is legal in Georgia only with a Georgia Weapons Carry License (WCL) or a concealed carry permit from a state Georgia honors. Some areas are off-limits, including schools and courthouses.
RE: Ahmaud Arbery, 25, Killed while Burglarizing in Georgia
(05-13-2020 10:52 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:
(05-10-2020 07:57 PM)WKUYG Wrote:
(05-10-2020 07:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:
(05-10-2020 07:19 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:
(05-10-2020 09:56 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Funny how jogger has now been debunked and we are now at hey we all trespass on other people's property. Everyone knows he was looking for stuff to steal. Do you think he was looking for construction ideas for his new house he was building? LOL. It is going to be not guilty let the riots commence!
You can't kill someone because you think they stole something.
You can get killed trying to take a gun from someone.
It baffles me to how anyone that watched that video cant understand this man is not dead because those two idiots thought he was breaking into homes.
It might have been the thing that put them on a collision path. But this man would still be alive today and free to jog throughout that neighborhood, to look into other homes. If he didnt make the decision to attack a man, then to try and grab his gun from him while striking him.
If these people wanted to shoot and kill him for looking into homes or casing them out. They would have did it earlier. From what I read and seen they asked the man to stop and talk to them. He had the right to say no and I guess he did just that.
I would bet there is not a law in the state of Ga that says you can not follow someone you believe just committed a crime. I bet by law they could have drove right beside the man or behind him all the way across town even if they didnt think he did anything. Streets are public and carrying the guns was lawful. I havent read or seen one thing that shows or says they threaten this man...
asking someone to talk is not a threat. He clearly wasnt detained or he wouldnt have been jogging. This thing got out of hand when he decided to attack a man who had a gun. When this gets to a jury if they do their sworn duty. They will say self defense
I want to ask TigerBlue4Ever two thing. What would you have done as someone that carries a gun if a person bull rushes you. Hitting you with their fist and had their hands around the barrel of your gun trying to take it away from you? Would you believe your life was in danger if the attacker took the gun from you?
Thinking someone broke into a home and might have stolen something was 10 to 15 minutes before the shot that killed this man. If anyone got that from the video. They watched a different one than I did.
This isnt about responsible gun owner ship. It's not about making any other gun owner look bad. This has nothing to do with any other person than the attacker and the shooter. If any person who owns and carries a gun looks at the video and says they wouldnt be in fear of their life if this person took control of that gun.
Then those people are carrying their guns to make themselves feel better. Not for self protection.
First of all I wouldn't have ever followed the guy, I would have called the cops. Secondly I wouldn't be standing there with a drawn weapon. I would have no legal right or obligation to draw my weapon on someone I merely suspected of burglarizing another's property. The law in TN is very clear regarding that. The ONLY time I have a right or obligation to pull my weapon on someone is if they are in the process of actively committing a crime and using a weapon to do so and even then drawing my own weapon would be a last resort to defend myself or others around me or if someone breaks into my home while I'm there. This isn't the wild west.
When you say draw, I take that to mean pulling it on someone. Is that not your meaning? There is zero evidence from that video to say the man drew his gun. In the video the man was standing beside his truck holding a shotgun, pointed down at the ground. At no time did the video show him with the gun pointed, threaten, at the jogger until the jogger grabs a hold of the gun.
Quote:Georgia allows any person to openly carry a handgun if the person has a “weapons carry” license. Georgia also allows any person to openly carry a long gun. In fact, if a long gun is carried while it is loaded, it must be carried openly.
I agree it was stupid and dangerous for the man to get out of the truck with a gun. But it wasnt against the law in Ga. or there would be gun charges against him.
This is what I asked based on what you saw or was shown in the video
Quote:What would you have done as someone that carries a gun if a person bull rushes you. Hitting you with their fist and had their hands around the barrel of your gun trying to take it away from you? Would you believe your life was in danger if the attacker took the gun from you?
Would you have pulled the trigger? No need to answer the question because from reading your post I believe you would have, if someone was trying to take your gun from you in a fight. I also know you wouldnt have put yourself in the position of the dumb*** in the video.
(This post was last modified: 05-13-2020 12:07 PM by WKUYG.)
RE: Ahmaud Arbery, 25, Killed while Burglarizing in Georgia
(05-13-2020 11:23 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: I'm not a fan of open carry. It seems to be used for intimidation. I prefer concealed carry. When hundreds of thousands or millions of people in your state concealed carry, it keeps people polite.
anyone ask these guys to show open carry permits for these weapons?
I doubt that is a thing in the state in question.
Weird. I don’t see any soy boys out there telling these guys guns should be illegal. The same idiots all over my social media feeds constantly berating 2A supporters (of which I am one and support these BP’s ability to carry legally), are all supporting these gentlemen’s right to carry.
Ahmaud Arbery, 25, Killed while Burglarizing in Georgia
(05-13-2020 03:21 PM)fsquid Wrote:
(05-13-2020 11:23 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: I'm not a fan of open carry. It seems to be used for intimidation. I prefer concealed carry. When hundreds of thousands or millions of people in your state concealed carry, it keeps people polite.
I agree there
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I am a fan of open carry.
If I’m open carrying, someone intent on attempting a crime is obviously going to pick a softer target.
If I’m carrying concealed, I still run a much higher risk of being victim to crime, in which case I would be forced to defend myself or others.
I would much prefer the option of deterrence if possible. That being said, I do have a CCP. I live in Arizona. So with my CCP I have the option of choosing open or concealed carry. Many people that know me, know that I carry 100% of the time. However, if I’m at a location where it may cause others alarm or fear (which is dumb), I’ll conceal.
RE: Ahmaud Arbery, 25, Killed while Burglarizing in Georgia
(05-13-2020 03:37 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:
(05-13-2020 03:21 PM)fsquid Wrote:
(05-13-2020 11:23 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: I'm not a fan of open carry. It seems to be used for intimidation. I prefer concealed carry. When hundreds of thousands or millions of people in your state concealed carry, it keeps people polite.
I agree there
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I am a fan of open carry.
If I’m open carrying, someone intent on attempting a crime is obviously going to pick a softer target.
If I’m carrying concealed, I still run a much higher risk of being victim to crime, in which case I would be forced to defend myself or others.
I would much prefer the option of deterrence if possible. That being said, I do have a CCP. I live in Arizona. So with my CCP I have the option of choosing open or concealed carry. Many people that know me, know that I carry 100% of the time. However, if I’m at a location where it may cause others alarm or fear (which is dumb), I’ll conceal.
Ahmaud Arbery, 25, Killed while Burglarizing in Georgia
(05-13-2020 03:46 PM)solohawks Wrote:
(05-13-2020 03:37 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:
(05-13-2020 03:21 PM)fsquid Wrote:
(05-13-2020 11:23 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: I'm not a fan of open carry. It seems to be used for intimidation. I prefer concealed carry. When hundreds of thousands or millions of people in your state concealed carry, it keeps people polite.
I agree there
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I am a fan of open carry.
If I’m open carrying, someone intent on attempting a crime is obviously going to pick a softer target.
If I’m carrying concealed, I still run a much higher risk of being victim to crime, in which case I would be forced to defend myself or others.
I would much prefer the option of deterrence if possible. That being said, I do have a CCP. I live in Arizona. So with my CCP I have the option of choosing open or concealed carry. Many people that know me, know that I carry 100% of the time. However, if I’m at a location where it may cause others alarm or fear (which is dumb), I’ll conceal.
RE: Ahmaud Arbery, 25, Killed while Burglarizing in Georgia
(05-19-2020 08:10 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Couple of more Arbery videos with police, 1 he gets arrested and another he jogs away from the police and leaves his car. https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CPuqH_1589844414
Do you still think who Arbery was has anything to do with this situation? The inverse of the MSM always making these guys out to look like saints are people like you that think digging up any negative thing about him somehow negates anything bad that happens to them.
RE: Ahmaud Arbery, 25, Killed while Burglarizing in Georgia
(05-19-2020 08:48 AM)bobdizole Wrote:
(05-19-2020 08:10 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Couple of more Arbery videos with police, 1 he gets arrested and another he jogs away from the police and leaves his car. https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CPuqH_1589844414
Do you still think who Arbery was has anything to do with this situation? The inverse of the MSM always making these guys out to look like saints are people like you that think digging up any negative thing about him somehow negates anything bad that happens to them.
Yes very much. He was out casing that hood and houses looking for stuff to steal. That is who he was.
RE: Ahmaud Arbery, 25, Killed while Burglarizing in Georgia
(05-19-2020 09:41 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:
(05-19-2020 08:48 AM)bobdizole Wrote:
(05-19-2020 08:10 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Couple of more Arbery videos with police, 1 he gets arrested and another he jogs away from the police and leaves his car. https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CPuqH_1589844414
Do you still think who Arbery was has anything to do with this situation? The inverse of the MSM always making these guys out to look like saints are people like you that think digging up any negative thing about him somehow negates anything bad that happens to them.
Yes very much. He was out casing that hood and houses looking for stuff to steal. That is who he was.
ok, what does that have to do with the vigilantism that is in question?
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Ahmaud Arbery, 25, Killed while Burglarizing in Georgia
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