MEN'S BASKETBALL FINAL ATTENDANCE

1. Louisiana - 3,730
2. South Alabama - 2,640
3. Troy - 2,509
4. Texas State - 2,285
5. UL-Monroe - 1,993
6. Georgia State - 1,947
7. UT-Arlington - 1,754
8. App State - 1,685
9. Little Rock - 1,560
10. Arkansas State - 1,506
11. Georgia Southern - 1,497
12. Coastal Carolina - 1,229

(04-23-2020 04:20 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  MEN'S BASKETBALL FINAL ATTENDANCE

1. Louisiana - 3,730
2. South Alabama - 2,640
3. Troy - 2,509
4. Texas State - 2,285
5. UL-Monroe - 1,993
6. Georgia State - 1,947
7. UT-Arlington - 1,754
8. App State - 1,685
9. Little Rock - 1,560
10. Arkansas State - 1,506
11. Georgia Southern - 1,497
12. Coastal Carolina - 1,229

Not huge numbers for App, but that has to be a huge year-over-year improvement from 2018-19.

I can remember when stAte had crowds of 5000 on a bad night. So sad to see what it's become.

(04-24-2020 07:20 AM)sdcritter Wrote:  I can remember when stAte had crowds of 5000 on a bad night. So sad to see what it's become.

I’m with you there. We had some nice attended games this season, definitely best over the last 10+ years for us. Auburn at home, and we finished the season strong. Student attendance at games just isn’t what it used to be, for any of the major sports.

(04-24-2020 09:29 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 07:20 AM)sdcritter Wrote:  I can remember when stAte had crowds of 5000 on a bad night. So sad to see what it's become.

I’m with you there. We had some nice attended games this season, definitely best over the last 10+ years for us. Auburn at home, and we finished the season strong. Student attendance at games just isn’t what it used to be, for any of the major sports.

For USA, or for all SBC schools?

(04-24-2020 09:49 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 09:29 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 07:20 AM)sdcritter Wrote:  I can remember when stAte had crowds of 5000 on a bad night. So sad to see what it's become.

I’m with you there. We had some nice attended games this season, definitely best over the last 10+ years for us. Auburn at home, and we finished the season strong. Student attendance at games just isn’t what it used to be, for any of the major sports.

For USA, or for all SBC schools?

Well I know for us we've had our two biggest crowds in school history in the past two years. Not that they're all that impressive in the grand scheme of things but still great for us. Historically our basketball attendance hasnt been very good so it's good to know that our fanbase has some real potential even if they're fickle.

(04-24-2020 09:49 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 09:29 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 07:20 AM)sdcritter Wrote:  I can remember when stAte had crowds of 5000 on a bad night. So sad to see what it's become.

I’m with you there. We had some nice attended games this season, definitely best over the last 10+ years for us. Auburn at home, and we finished the season strong. Student attendance at games just isn’t what it used to be, for any of the major sports.

For USA, or for all SBC schools?

All schools, everywhere. Not just South, not just SBC, every school. Troy has a great size arena for the SBC, your attendance was a little less than us, but would look much better in a 5,000 seat arena instead of a 10,000 seat one.

(04-24-2020 10:32 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 09:49 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 09:29 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 07:20 AM)sdcritter Wrote:  I can remember when stAte had crowds of 5000 on a bad night. So sad to see what it's become.

I’m with you there. We had some nice attended games this season, definitely best over the last 10+ years for us. Auburn at home, and we finished the season strong. Student attendance at games just isn’t what it used to be, for any of the major sports.

For USA, or for all SBC schools?

All schools, everywhere. Not just South, not just SBC, every school. Troy has a great size arena for the SBC, your attendance was a little less than us, but would look much better in a 5,000 seat arena instead of a 10,000 seat one.

For Troy, we've had the best consistent student turn-out I've ever seen in football and even women's basketball. Men's basketball saw more students compared to years prior. Baseball is the same as usual.

(04-24-2020 10:39 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 10:32 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 09:49 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 09:29 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 07:20 AM)sdcritter Wrote:  I can remember when stAte had crowds of 5000 on a bad night. So sad to see what it's become.

I’m with you there. We had some nice attended games this season, definitely best over the last 10+ years for us. Auburn at home, and we finished the season strong. Student attendance at games just isn’t what it used to be, for any of the major sports.

For USA, or for all SBC schools?

All schools, everywhere. Not just South, not just SBC, every school. Troy has a great size arena for the SBC, your attendance was a little less than us, but would look much better in a 5,000 seat arena instead of a 10,000 seat one.

For Troy, we've had the best consistent student turn-out I've ever seen in football and even women's basketball. Men's basketball saw more students compared to years prior. Baseball is the same as usual.

That makes you guys the exception that proves the rule.

(04-24-2020 10:39 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 10:32 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 09:49 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 09:29 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 07:20 AM)sdcritter Wrote:  I can remember when stAte had crowds of 5000 on a bad night. So sad to see what it's become.

I’m with you there. We had some nice attended games this season, definitely best over the last 10+ years for us. Auburn at home, and we finished the season strong. Student attendance at games just isn’t what it used to be, for any of the major sports.

For USA, or for all SBC schools?

All schools, everywhere. Not just South, not just SBC, every school. Troy has a great size arena for the SBC, your attendance was a little less than us, but would look much better in a 5,000 seat arena instead of a 10,000 seat one.

For Troy, we've had the best consistent student turn-out I've ever seen in football and even women's basketball. Men's basketball saw more students compared to years prior. Baseball is the same as usual.

That's good for Troy that the students have something to entertain themselves. Not a whole lot else is going on in Troy is there?

Our basketball arena is too big for most games,similar like how Ladd was too big for us unless the SEC was coming.
It was packed out for Auburn, not so much for the other games. Maybe attendance can get better for next season after having a good year last year assuming we get back to normal.

(04-24-2020 11:19 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 10:39 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 10:32 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 09:49 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 09:29 AM)Usajags Wrote:  I’m with you there. We had some nice attended games this season, definitely best over the last 10+ years for us. Auburn at home, and we finished the season strong. Student attendance at games just isn’t what it used to be, for any of the major sports.

For USA, or for all SBC schools?

All schools, everywhere. Not just South, not just SBC, every school. Troy has a great size arena for the SBC, your attendance was a little less than us, but would look much better in a 5,000 seat arena instead of a 10,000 seat one.

For Troy, we've had the best consistent student turn-out I've ever seen in football and even women's basketball. Men's basketball saw more students compared to years prior. Baseball is the same as usual.

That's good for Troy that the students have something to entertain themselves. Not a whole lot else is going on in Troy is there?

Could be the reason that the smaller college-town schools typically have the best attendance... I.E. - App State, Troy, Arkansas State, La Tech, Marshall, Southern Miss, Wyoming, etc.

(04-24-2020 12:23 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 11:19 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 10:39 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 10:32 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 09:49 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  For USA, or for all SBC schools?

All schools, everywhere. Not just South, not just SBC, every school. Troy has a great size arena for the SBC, your attendance was a little less than us, but would look much better in a 5,000 seat arena instead of a 10,000 seat one.

For Troy, we've had the best consistent student turn-out I've ever seen in football and even women's basketball. Men's basketball saw more students compared to years prior. Baseball is the same as usual.

That's good for Troy that the students have something to entertain themselves. Not a whole lot else is going on in Troy is there?

Could be the reason that the smaller college-town schools typically have the best attendance... I.E. - App State, Troy, Arkansas State, La Tech, Marshall, Southern Miss, Wyoming, etc.

True. It's a good thing. Hopefully South's attendance at football games increase in new stadium.

(04-24-2020 12:48 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 12:23 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 11:19 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 10:39 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 10:32 AM)Usajags Wrote:  All schools, everywhere. Not just South, not just SBC, every school. Troy has a great size arena for the SBC, your attendance was a little less than us, but would look much better in a 5,000 seat arena instead of a 10,000 seat one.

For Troy, we've had the best consistent student turn-out I've ever seen in football and even women's basketball. Men's basketball saw more students compared to years prior. Baseball is the same as usual.

That's good for Troy that the students have something to entertain themselves. Not a whole lot else is going on in Troy is there?

Could be the reason that the smaller college-town schools typically have the best attendance... I.E. - App State, Troy, Arkansas State, La Tech, Marshall, Southern Miss, Wyoming, etc.

True. It's a good thing. Hopefully South's attendance at football games increase in new stadium.

I certainly believe it will.

(04-24-2020 12:23 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 11:19 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 10:39 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 10:32 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 09:49 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  For USA, or for all SBC schools?

All schools, everywhere. Not just South, not just SBC, every school. Troy has a great size arena for the SBC, your attendance was a little less than us, but would look much better in a 5,000 seat arena instead of a 10,000 seat one.

For Troy, we've had the best consistent student turn-out I've ever seen in football and even women's basketball. Men's basketball saw more students compared to years prior. Baseball is the same as usual.

That's good for Troy that the students have something to entertain themselves. Not a whole lot else is going on in Troy is there?

Could be the reason that the smaller college-town schools typically have the best attendance... I.E. - App State, Troy, Arkansas State, La Tech, Marshall, Southern Miss, Wyoming, etc.

It looks like La Tech had a home attendance this year of 2639.

(04-24-2020 12:09 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  Our basketball arena is too big for most games,similar like how Ladd was too big for us unless the SEC was coming.
It was packed out for Auburn, not so much for the other games. Maybe attendance can get better for next season after having a good year last year assuming we get back to normal.

I am all about basketball arenas' being proportional to attendance. Say what you want about our home court, but it has a great feel for basketball games. Once we get into a venue that looks the part of a college basketball arena (and less like a converted gym), we'll really be in business.

(04-24-2020 07:20 AM)sdcritter Wrote:  I can remember when stAte had crowds of 5000 on a bad night. So sad to see what it's become.

I remember when you guys would get 7000-8000 for a Saturday conference game. As a Little Rock fan, I was pretty jealous. Still, in those days, we would get around 3-4K for a Saturday conference game. I would be pissed about that number, but would be absolutely thrilled now.

Except for the fact that we won the league, this year, our attendance is not as awful, as I thought, compared to the rest of league. Only 8 teams averaged over 2K, and USA got there mostly due to a 10K+ crowd against Auburn. I believe Little Rock has the smallest student body, and certainly, the smallest number of oncampus students- so that hurts attendance numbers. We probably are near the top in season tickets sold, although that has clearly gone down as are fanbase is getting older and older. Unless the coronavirus "disappears" as Trump claimed, I'm afraid of what are attendance numbers will be, this year, with the bulk of our reliable fans over 65.

I'm afraid times have changed and, based on the above mentioned numbers, it certainly is not just in Arkansas. Seems like millennials are much more likely to stay home and play video games, watch movies, or watch multiple games on their big screens then attend mid-major sports events. I took my 2 kids, to just about every game, from the time they were born until their late high school years when they began having their "own" social lives (although they often still came to the games). Just don't see young families at our games anymore. Not sure if that is the same at other places or not.

When stAte got their arena there was nothing to compare in that part of the state. It was intended as a multi-function facility and it really is used as such with indoor track, basketball, volleyball, etc. plus concerts, convention type gatherings, craft shows, etc. So it is on the large size but it needs to be for that functionality. But it sure looks bad on TV when no one shows up to watch our crappy basketball program lose again.

(04-24-2020 12:09 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  Our basketball arena is too big for most games,similar like how Ladd was too big for us unless the SEC was coming.
It was packed out for Auburn, not so much for the other games. Maybe attendance can get better for next season after having a good year last year assuming we get back to normal.

Interesting comment about arena size. I remember when we (LR) joined the old Trans America Conference (TAAC) a requirement for new members was an 8,000 seat arena. That would be a joke for a low major conference now. I remember, clear as day, when we broke ground on our new arena, about the 17 years ago, and some of our fans were concerned about it "only" holding 5600. I thought they were being ridiculous and I was right. It was probably close to perfect in size, but actually has more seats then we have needed in 98% of our games. We can count our sell-outs, in 15 years, on one hand and even those games the arena wasn't full (not much you can do about season ticketholders who don't show up and we have always had plenty of those). Even most P5 (ex. Auburn) schools are building smaller arenas to replace their older, bigger arenas. Times have simply changed. Not sure if there is a decreased interest in sports. But, just about every game can be seen on TV or streamed at this point, so I just think most younger adults have simply gotten used to watching multiple games on their big screen rather than attending games. They don't have to drag kids along, pay for baby sitters, figure out what to do about dinner, or make a decision about which game they'd rather see.

(04-24-2020 02:37 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  

(04-24-2020 12:09 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  Our basketball arena is too big for most games,similar like how Ladd was too big for us unless the SEC was coming.
It was packed out for Auburn, not so much for the other games. Maybe attendance can get better for next season after having a good year last year assuming we get back to normal.

I am all about basketball arenas' being proportional to attendance. Say what you want about our home court, but it has a great feel for basketball games. Once we get into a venue that looks the part of a college basketball arena (and less like a converted gym), we'll really be in business.

When was that new arena going to start being built?