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(03-07-2020 10:22 PM)MickMack Wrote:  Diarra has been key lately. Where's hepblade when you need him?

I got tired of telling you all that Diarra is better than Vogt. I think it's clear enough at this point that I don't need to.

And wait until teams have video on Diarra and make adjustments, which they will soon.

Pfft. There are no adjustments for Diarra. The guy is unguardable.

You joke, but it will be much harder to adjust for Diarra, at least as long as we aren't running plays for him. He isn't a guy who we run plays for and expect him to score, he scores when he is open and gets the ball as part of the offense. The adjustments teams could make is cover him closer and don't help off of him, but doing that spreads the floor and allows more openings for our main guys to score. Guys who can play the 5 and shoot it well from three are generally match-up problems. If he can continue to improve at finishing around the rim - I'm guessing he will as that seems to be a skill Brannen is good at developing - he will be even more of a match-up problem.
 
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(03-07-2020 11:06 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  3 more wins this year and Tre will hold the record for most wins played in as a Bearcat. Lo had 111. I believe tonight was 108 for Tre.

Was that Tre’s 1st game winner? Hell of a way to go out in front of the home crowd. Won’t be able to replace him next year.

Who’s going to rebound next year?

Probably a combo of Dou and a grad transfer

We'll see how far along eason is as well. Sometimes you find someone like Gary who can do it day 1.

I hope he can, but I think a grad transfer here would go a long way to help our season next year. I hope Eason can be like Clark, but I am not going to hold my breath. That is a lot to ask of a Freshman.
 
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Your starting 5 next year might be Vogt, Diarra, Eason, Williams, and MAW. With Harvey the 6th man. Man, we need some help up front. How’s Davenport’s knee?
 
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(03-08-2020 08:49 AM)Banter Wrote:  
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(03-07-2020 11:06 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  3 more wins this year and Tre will hold the record for most wins played in as a Bearcat. Lo had 111. I believe tonight was 108 for Tre.

Was that Tre’s 1st game winner? Hell of a way to go out in front of the home crowd. Won’t be able to replace him next year.

Who’s going to rebound next year?

Probably a combo of Dou and a grad transfer

We'll see how far along eason is as well. Sometimes you find someone like Gary who can do it day 1.

I hope he can, but I think a grad transfer here would go a long way to help our season next year. I hope Eason can be like Clark, but I am not going to hold my breath. That is a lot to ask of a Freshman.

I think Eason's game is more similar to a more refined offensive version of Scott. Diarra is obviously not on opposing team's radar right now(his spurt is about 5 games, lol), and although he's shooting a ridiculous % from three you can't confirm anything about a guy with about 10 attempts. To early to tell, but given he's got two years left and Brannen has shown a knack for improving big guy's play i think it's safe to assume he's going to get a lot of minutes the next couple of seasons. The key to this team's rebounding doesn't sit in the front court and the existing players and hopefully additions thereof. The key is they need to become a much better as far as backcourt players go. Really good teams have 4 to 5 guys who go after the ball when it's up. Particularly on the offensive end, we've got a lot of veteran guys who's played a lot of slow down half court bball which is not in line with backcourt kids rebounding. It also would be a big plus if we get some help knocking down more perimeter shots. Unfortunately, we have to go after a heck of a lot of shots to begin with. Nothing stunts an opposing team's rebounding appetite more than a team who doesn't miss a lot.
 
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Given my love of AAC officiating, i'm horse today after some of the calls last night. I was going to watch the replay today, but my 5 favorites, correct me if i am shorting these guys:

1.Vogt's first foul for "hooking" when he was passing the ball with two hands out of a physical defender who could have also been called for a contact foul. Replay didn't show a hook in the arena. Vogt gets a nomination for more bad calls against a guy in a season.

2. The goal tending call on Scott who was struggling to get going in the first half. Ball clearly was on way up in front of me. It wasn't even out of the kid's hands that long. I thought that was a big call as they rewarded a kid with 2 when Scott may have taken some energy earlier in the game to get going on the other end.

3. Temple guard traveled right in front of the official in 3rd qtr. during a mini run, no call again for all 3 of those bozo's.

4. Diarra got pushed down on defense right in front of cueball ref. who made the first call on Vogt, Looked at the play like it was an MMA fight and just play on.

5. Tre Scott called for a hook on a defensive rebound where he had position and kid comes into him and locks arm. This swim against a guy with good position has cost Vogt several calls this year. Ref was also right in front of it.

Honorable mention was JC's defensive call for having his hand on the guy after getting creamed on the other end on a made shot with no call. Really odd call that late in the game to put your star kid in a foul out position after not calling it all night.
 
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(03-08-2020 08:55 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  Your starting 5 next year might be Vogt, Diarra, Eason, Williams, and MAW. With Harvey the 6th man. Man, we need some help up front. How’s Davenport’s knee?

We are too thin in the front court to play Vogt, Diarra, and Eason together even if Eason is capable of playing at the 3. I think Harvey will start.
 
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(03-08-2020 08:55 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  Your starting 5 next year might be Vogt, Diarra, Eason, Williams, and MAW. With Harvey the 6th man. Man, we need some help up front. How’s Davenport’s knee?

I predict next year you will see a ton of different starting lineups. My guess is Brannen goes with guys who can make/are making shots. I think his goal is to be a legit 10 deep team with a lot of moving pieces. He doesn't like to continually coach from behind because team's can't hit shots.
 
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(01-11-2020 02:14 PM)SeniorBearcat Wrote:  Great second half and road win! 04-cheers
9-6 1st half season, hope to see 11-4 second half of the season with a good conference tournament. A healthy Jarron and solid D and this team will make the NCAA...long way to go but the potential is there.

After the UCF game I was glad we got to 9-6, the 11-4 second half of the season did seem like a root canal ?

Hopefully we can reset and win a couple conference tournament games to feel good going into Selection Sunday. At least this team fights to the finish...my daughter was upstairs in bed and heard me yell from the basement and said she knew Cincinnati must be playing, so she started cheering the fight song in bed.

Go Bearcats!!!
 
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(03-08-2020 09:13 AM)dsquare Wrote:  Given my love of AAC officiating, i'm horse today after some of the calls last night. I was going to watch the replay today, but my 5 favorites, correct me if i am shorting these guys:

1.Vogt's first foul for "hooking" when he was passing the ball with two hands out of a physical defender who could have also been called for a contact foul. Replay didn't show a hook in the arena. Vogt gets a nomination for more bad calls against a guy in a season.

2. The goal tending call on Scott who was struggling to get going in the first half. Ball clearly was on way up in front of me. It wasn't even out of the kid's hands that long. I thought that was a big call as they rewarded a kid with 2 when Scott may have taken some energy earlier in the game to get going on the other end.

3. Temple guard traveled right in front of the official in 3rd qtr. during a mini run, no call again for all 3 of those bozo's.

4. Diarra got pushed down on defense right in front of cueball ref. who made the first call on Vogt, Looked at the play like it was an MMA fight and just play on.

5. Tre Scott called for a hook on a defensive rebound where he had position and kid comes into him and locks arm. This swim against a guy with good position has cost Vogt several calls this year. Ref was also right in front of it.

Honorable mention was JC's defensive call for having his hand on the guy after getting creamed on the other end on a made shot with no call. Really odd call that late in the game to put your star kid in a foul out position after not calling it all night.

You forgot the charge called on Williams which should have been a 3 pt play. The guy was in the cylinder.

The fix is in, I tell ya!
 
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(03-08-2020 09:21 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  
(03-08-2020 09:13 AM)dsquare Wrote:  Given my love of AAC officiating, i'm horse today after some of the calls last night. I was going to watch the replay today, but my 5 favorites, correct me if i am shorting these guys:

1.Vogt's first foul for "hooking" when he was passing the ball with two hands out of a physical defender who could have also been called for a contact foul. Replay didn't show a hook in the arena. Vogt gets a nomination for more bad calls against a guy in a season.

2. The goal tending call on Scott who was struggling to get going in the first half. Ball clearly was on way up in front of me. It wasn't even out of the kid's hands that long. I thought that was a big call as they rewarded a kid with 2 when Scott may have taken some energy earlier in the game to get going on the other end.

3. Temple guard traveled right in front of the official in 3rd qtr. during a mini run, no call again for all 3 of those bozo's.

4. Diarra got pushed down on defense right in front of cueball ref. who made the first call on Vogt, Looked at the play like it was an MMA fight and just play on.

5. Tre Scott called for a hook on a defensive rebound where he had position and kid comes into him and locks arm. This swim against a guy with good position has cost Vogt several calls this year. Ref was also right in front of it.

Honorable mention was JC's defensive call for having his hand on the guy after getting creamed on the other end on a made shot with no call. Really odd call that late in the game to put your star kid in a foul out position after not calling it all night.

You forgot the charge called on Williams which should have been a 3 pt play. The guy was in the cylinder.

The fix is in, I tell ya!

That was more of a judgement call, but do you really think any of the 5 i mentioned were even debateable? JC's call i realize is, but you don't put a kid in disqualification mode that late in the game with that call when you haven't call it all game long.
 
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(03-08-2020 08:55 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  Your starting 5 next year might be Vogt, Diarra, Eason, Williams, and MAW. With Harvey the 6th man. Man, we need some help up front. How’s Davenport’s knee?

I think we can be pretty confident that Diarra, Williams, Harvey and MAW will be starting next year, at least early in the year.

The wild card will does Diarra start at the 4 or 5? If it's at the 4, Vogt is the last starter - but then we need to add depth at the 5. If it's at the 5, then we need somebody to play the 4. We will have lots of options especially if we play a bit small (Eason, Davenport, Gabe, possibly Prince), but a grad transfer wouldn't hurt.
 
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(03-08-2020 09:33 AM)skyblade Wrote:  The wild card will does Diarra start at the 4 or 5? If it's at the 4, Vogt is the last starter - but then we need to add depth at the 5. If it's at the 5, then we need somebody to play the 4. We will have lots of options especially if we play a bit small (Eason, Davenport, Gabe, possibly Prince), but a grad transfer wouldn't hurt.
My guess is Dou and Vogt start together initially unless Eason blows up immediately. When we don't need that true post defender Dou would play the 5 with Eason/Davenport/maybe Price at 4. Basically the complete opposite of what we have now, depth and options.


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(03-08-2020 09:33 AM)skyblade Wrote:  
(03-08-2020 08:55 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  Your starting 5 next year might be Vogt, Diarra, Eason, Williams, and MAW. With Harvey the 6th man. Man, we need some help up front. How’s Davenport’s knee?

I think we can be pretty confident that Diarra, Williams, Harvey and MAW will be starting next year, at least early in the year.

The wild card will does Diarra start at the 4 or 5? If it's at the 4, Vogt is the last starter - but then we need to add depth at the 5. If it's at the 5, then we need somebody to play the 4. We will have lots of options especially if we play a bit small (Eason, Davenport, Gabe, possibly Prince), but a grad transfer wouldn't hurt.

Hoping MAW takes a big step forward next year because while obviously young & talented he has too many performances like yesterday when he doesn’t really offer much. If he’s going to play 20+ minutes he needs to have some points & assists, especially when the offense is struggling (like yesterday) and it seems he can get in the lane whenever he wants.
 
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(03-08-2020 09:56 AM)cincy11 Wrote:  
(03-08-2020 09:33 AM)skyblade Wrote:  
(03-08-2020 08:55 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  Your starting 5 next year might be Vogt, Diarra, Eason, Williams, and MAW. With Harvey the 6th man. Man, we need some help up front. How’s Davenport’s knee?

I think we can be pretty confident that Diarra, Williams, Harvey and MAW will be starting next year, at least early in the year.

The wild card will does Diarra start at the 4 or 5? If it's at the 4, Vogt is the last starter - but then we need to add depth at the 5. If it's at the 5, then we need somebody to play the 4. We will have lots of options especially if we play a bit small (Eason, Davenport, Gabe, possibly Prince), but a grad transfer wouldn't hurt.

Hoping MAW takes a big step forward next year because while obviously young & talented he has too many performances like yesterday when he doesn’t really offer much. If he’s going to play 20+ minutes he needs to have some points & assists, especially when the offense is struggling (like yesterday) and it seems he can get in the lane whenever he wants.

He's got to be more decisive to take his shot outside. He's got open looks he turns down because he's new. To be fair yesterday, Tre and Keith were not on their offensive games at all. Passing to them was at best iffy. Up until the final stretch they didn't look like they really wanted to ball. Senior night, whatever.
 
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(03-08-2020 09:19 AM)dsquare Wrote:  
(03-08-2020 08:55 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  Your starting 5 next year might be Vogt, Diarra, Eason, Williams, and MAW. With Harvey the 6th man. Man, we need some help up front. How’s Davenport’s knee?

I predict next year you will see a ton of different starting lineups. My guess is Brannen goes with guys who can make/are making shots. I think his goal is to be a legit 10 deep team with a lot of moving pieces. He doesn't like to continually coach from behind because team's can't hit shots.

G. Madsen will start....Book it....04-cheers
 
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(03-08-2020 08:55 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  Your starting 5 next year might be Vogt, Diarra, Eason, Williams, and MAW. With Harvey the 6th man. Man, we need some help up front. How’s Davenport’s knee?

I predict next year you will see a ton of different starting lineups. My guess is Brannen goes with guys who can make/are making shots. I think his goal is to be a legit 10 deep team with a lot of moving pieces. He doesn't like to continually coach from behind because team's can't hit shots.

G. Madsen will start....Book it....04-cheers

Go to the recruiting link and watch video. Mason is lighting it up right now.
 
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(03-08-2020 09:26 AM)dsquare Wrote:  
(03-08-2020 09:21 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  
(03-08-2020 09:13 AM)dsquare Wrote:  Given my love of AAC officiating, i'm horse today after some of the calls last night. I was going to watch the replay today, but my 5 favorites, correct me if i am shorting these guys:

1.Vogt's first foul for "hooking" when he was passing the ball with two hands out of a physical defender who could have also been called for a contact foul. Replay didn't show a hook in the arena. Vogt gets a nomination for more bad calls against a guy in a season.

2. The goal tending call on Scott who was struggling to get going in the first half. Ball clearly was on way up in front of me. It wasn't even out of the kid's hands that long. I thought that was a big call as they rewarded a kid with 2 when Scott may have taken some energy earlier in the game to get going on the other end.

3. Temple guard traveled right in front of the official in 3rd qtr. during a mini run, no call again for all 3 of those bozo's.

4. Diarra got pushed down on defense right in front of cueball ref. who made the first call on Vogt, Looked at the play like it was an MMA fight and just play on.

5. Tre Scott called for a hook on a defensive rebound where he had position and kid comes into him and locks arm. This swim against a guy with good position has cost Vogt several calls this year. Ref was also right in front of it.

Honorable mention was JC's defensive call for having his hand on the guy after getting creamed on the other end on a made shot with no call. Really odd call that late in the game to put your star kid in a foul out position after not calling it all night.

You forgot the charge called on Williams which should have been a 3 pt play. The guy was in the cylinder.

The fix is in, I tell ya!

That was more of a judgement call, but do you really think any of the 5 i mentioned were even debateable? JC's call i realize is, but you don't put a kid in disqualification mode that late in the game with that call when you haven't call it all game long.

Literally all of yours were judgement calls. The only one that wasn't was the charge mentioned by the other poster because the guys whole left leg was in the cylinder. The rule is literally that has to be a block and not a charge.

That said, I think all of the ones you mentioned were really bad calls. Especially the goal tending.
 
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(03-08-2020 10:18 AM)Sweetness Wrote:  
(03-08-2020 09:26 AM)dsquare Wrote:  
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(03-08-2020 09:13 AM)dsquare Wrote:  Given my love of AAC officiating, i'm horse today after some of the calls last night. I was going to watch the replay today, but my 5 favorites, correct me if i am shorting these guys:

1.Vogt's first foul for "hooking" when he was passing the ball with two hands out of a physical defender who could have also been called for a contact foul. Replay didn't show a hook in the arena. Vogt gets a nomination for more bad calls against a guy in a season.

2. The goal tending call on Scott who was struggling to get going in the first half. Ball clearly was on way up in front of me. It wasn't even out of the kid's hands that long. I thought that was a big call as they rewarded a kid with 2 when Scott may have taken some energy earlier in the game to get going on the other end.

3. Temple guard traveled right in front of the official in 3rd qtr. during a mini run, no call again for all 3 of those bozo's.

4. Diarra got pushed down on defense right in front of cueball ref. who made the first call on Vogt, Looked at the play like it was an MMA fight and just play on.

5. Tre Scott called for a hook on a defensive rebound where he had position and kid comes into him and locks arm. This swim against a guy with good position has cost Vogt several calls this year. Ref was also right in front of it.

Honorable mention was JC's defensive call for having his hand on the guy after getting creamed on the other end on a made shot with no call. Really odd call that late in the game to put your star kid in a foul out position after not calling it all night.

You forgot the charge called on Williams which should have been a 3 pt play. The guy was in the cylinder.

The fix is in, I tell ya!

That was more of a judgement call, but do you really think any of the 5 i mentioned were even debateable? JC's call i realize is, but you don't put a kid in disqualification mode that late in the game with that call when you haven't call it all game long.

Literally all of yours were judgement calls. The only one that wasn't was the charge mentioned by the other poster because the guys whole left leg was in the cylinder. The rule is literally that has to be a block and not a charge.

That said, I think all of the ones you mentioned were really bad calls. Especially the goal tending.

You're right, i phrased it wrong. To much typing. I just can't believe some of the calls i'm seeing anymore. It's really, really bad.
 
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Dan Hoard is the Marty B of Uc's sports. LOL
 
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