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(02-23-2020 01:28 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 01:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 12:12 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 11:04 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 10:20 PM)Fatalisk Wrote:  What is your vision for a team message board at a time like this? There isn’t anything cheerful to talk about right now, so would you rather there be no postings? I’m genuinely curious what you think an appropriate tone is right now.

Let me respectfully take a shot an answering your question. I read the board daily for two main reasons: I am a proud ODU alum and living six hours away I count on the board to provide Monarch information that is otherwise difficult to find. More power to anyone who decides to post, but the forum is starting to feel like I am reading yesterday's newspaper over and over again. Fire the AD. Fire the football coach. Fire the basketball coach. Burn down Webb Center because it's old. We are having a crappy basketball season, I get it and I certainly am not 'cheerful' about it. I understand I can ignore the forum if I don't like I am reading. But damn, we sound like an entitled fan base when we are calling for someone's head after every loss (and often after victories as well). It feels like some of us simply overreact for the sake of overreacting. And, to me, overreacting is not synonymous to fan loyalty.

Look, it’s another “raise your hand if you’re miserable” thread! The comments that make me laugh the most are “I won’t stand for this, how can u accept this?” It’s soo soft. Jeez, I’m not sure if it’s sad or funny. A little bit of both I guess. Did the coach yell at the players again in this game? This is unbelievable!

No, what’s truly unbelievable is that anyone finds this trash product watchable or acceptable.

How soft are you that you just accept any crap anyone gives you because you are afraid to criticize anything? If you wanted a nice juicy steak for dinner and go to a gourmet restaurant and order one and then the waiter brings you out Taco Bell do you just accept it and eat it? The true soft posters are the ones who refuse to see how far this program has truly fallen.

I’m glad I’m not the only one that used the word “entitled”. What happens if we stink for 2 years??? That should be entertaining. Here, I’ll finish up this thread for everyone....

The program has fallen soo far!! We haven’t been to the NCAA tournament in a year! I’m a better fan cause I yell and scream! Their players are bigger than ours!!! Where are all the centers!?!?!? Our recruiting stinks!! I will not stand for this!!! Hahaha. Stop yelling at the players!!!

I'll preview the response you are going to get: You are soft. The program's 25+ win seasons recently do not count because we are in a crappy conference but you don't understand that, etc., etc.,

I don’t see any reason to believe next years team will be much different than this years. Do we have a blow out recruiting class coming in? That’s the biggest reason in my view that we need a change. We may as well begin rebuilding now. At least we might have hope for a resurgence down the road. That’s not going to happen with JJ as head coach.

(02-23-2020 07:19 AM)ODUDon Wrote:  I don’t see any reason to believe next years team will be much different than this years. Do we have a blow out recruiting class coming in? That’s the biggest reason in my view that we need a change. We may as well begin rebuilding now. At least we might have hope for a resurgence down the road. That’s not going to happen with JJ as head coach.

No need to worry, Filip Petrusev is just waiting to come here through muh transfer portal.



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(02-23-2020 07:35 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 07:19 AM)ODUDon Wrote:  I don’t see any reason to believe next years team will be much different than this years. Do we have a blow out recruiting class coming in? That’s the biggest reason in my view that we need a change. We may as well begin rebuilding now. At least we might have hope for a resurgence down the road. That’s not going to happen with JJ as head coach.

No need to worry, Filip Petrusev is just waiting to come here through muh transfer portal.



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I just feel bad for Wade, Curry and Reece who are playing their butts off but have little support! Agree, next year can even be worse than this year.

(02-23-2020 10:49 AM)BigBlueBobby Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 07:35 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 07:19 AM)ODUDon Wrote:  I don’t see any reason to believe next years team will be much different than this years. Do we have a blow out recruiting class coming in? That’s the biggest reason in my view that we need a change. We may as well begin rebuilding now. At least we might have hope for a resurgence down the road. That’s not going to happen with JJ as head coach.

No need to worry, Filip Petrusev is just waiting to come here through muh transfer portal.



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I just feel bad for Wade, Curry and Reece who are playing their butts off but have little support! Agree, next year can even be worse than this year.

True that. Role players out of position being asked to carry the load and they get eaten alive by any team that doesn't play muh positionless basketball.

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I said we have an 18 win season. Boy I was totally wrong. Honestly...Wood needs to give the option to JJ to step out gracefully. Time for a change.

Definitely not what we needed after this past football season.

(02-23-2020 01:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 12:12 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 11:04 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 10:20 PM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 09:52 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  Personally I am glad we have another thread on the topic. The other 14 weren't really getting the message across.

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What is your vision for a team message board at a time like this? There isn’t anything cheerful to talk about right now, so would you rather there be no postings? I’m genuinely curious what you think an appropriate tone is right now.

Let me respectfully take a shot an answering your question. I read the board daily for two main reasons: I am a proud ODU alum and living six hours away I count on the board to provide Monarch information that is otherwise difficult to find. More power to anyone who decides to post, but the forum is starting to feel like I am reading yesterday's newspaper over and over again. Fire the AD. Fire the football coach. Fire the basketball coach. Burn down Webb Center because it's old. We are having a crappy basketball season, I get it and I certainly am not 'cheerful' about it. I understand I can ignore the forum if I don't like I am reading. But damn, we sound like an entitled fan base when we are calling for someone's head after every loss (and often after victories as well). It feels like some of us simply overreact for the sake of overreacting. And, to me, overreacting is not synonymous to fan loyalty.

Look, it’s another “raise your hand if you’re miserable” thread! The comments that make me laugh the most are “I won’t stand for this, how can u accept this?” It’s soo soft. Jeez, I’m not sure if it’s sad or funny. A little bit of both I guess. Did the coach yell at the players again in this game? This is unbelievable!

No, what’s truly unbelievable is that anyone finds this trash product watchable or acceptable.

How soft are you that you just accept any crap anyone gives you because you are afraid to criticize anything? If you wanted a nice juicy steak for dinner and go to a gourmet restaurant and order one and then the waiter brings you out Taco Bell do you just accept it and eat it? The true soft posters are the ones who refuse to see how far this program has truly fallen.

NOBODY FINDS THIS ACCEPTABLE.

This is the problem I have with the frontline of the Fire JJ squadron. It's not that he's beyond reproach or shouldn't be questioned. It's this combination of patting yourselves on the back for being the first to call for his firing (or never being happy with him in the first place) while building up this strawman argument that everyone who isn't in lockstep with your view is blindly in love with him and cannot accept any criticism about him. It is entirely possible — and, I would submit, very reasonable — to be happy with things he's done well, not be happy with things he hasn't done well, and weight all those factors in an evolving view of whether he should be coach here.

It's like playing poker with someone who goes all-in or folds on every hand.

(02-23-2020 05:25 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 01:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 12:12 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 11:04 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 10:20 PM)Fatalisk Wrote:  What is your vision for a team message board at a time like this? There isn’t anything cheerful to talk about right now, so would you rather there be no postings? I’m genuinely curious what you think an appropriate tone is right now.

Let me respectfully take a shot an answering your question. I read the board daily for two main reasons: I am a proud ODU alum and living six hours away I count on the board to provide Monarch information that is otherwise difficult to find. More power to anyone who decides to post, but the forum is starting to feel like I am reading yesterday's newspaper over and over again. Fire the AD. Fire the football coach. Fire the basketball coach. Burn down Webb Center because it's old. We are having a crappy basketball season, I get it and I certainly am not 'cheerful' about it. I understand I can ignore the forum if I don't like I am reading. But damn, we sound like an entitled fan base when we are calling for someone's head after every loss (and often after victories as well). It feels like some of us simply overreact for the sake of overreacting. And, to me, overreacting is not synonymous to fan loyalty.

Look, it’s another “raise your hand if you’re miserable” thread! The comments that make me laugh the most are “I won’t stand for this, how can u accept this?” It’s soo soft. Jeez, I’m not sure if it’s sad or funny. A little bit of both I guess. Did the coach yell at the players again in this game? This is unbelievable!

No, what’s truly unbelievable is that anyone finds this trash product watchable or acceptable.

How soft are you that you just accept any crap anyone gives you because you are afraid to criticize anything? If you wanted a nice juicy steak for dinner and go to a gourmet restaurant and order one and then the waiter brings you out Taco Bell do you just accept it and eat it? The true soft posters are the ones who refuse to see how far this program has truly fallen.

NOBODY FINDS THIS ACCEPTABLE.

This is the problem I have with the frontline of the Fire JJ squadron. It's not that he's beyond reproach or shouldn't be questioned. It's this combination of patting yourselves on the back for being the first to call for his firing (or never being happy with him in the first place) while building up this strawman argument that everyone who isn't in lockstep with your view is blindly in love with him and cannot accept any criticism about him. It is entirely possible — and, I would submit, very reasonable — to be happy with things he's done well, not be happy with things he hasn't done well, and weight all those factors in an evolving view of whether he should be coach here.

It's like playing poker with someone who goes all-in or folds on every hand.

Pretty much this.

It was asked what I thought correct posting posture should be? It would be posting your fire jj thread in one of the OTHER TWO fire jj threads. We alllllll get it. People want him to be let go now.

It's not. going. to. happen. Until at least next year. So chill with the constant deluge or call the AD.



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(02-23-2020 05:25 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 01:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 12:12 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 11:04 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 10:20 PM)Fatalisk Wrote:  What is your vision for a team message board at a time like this? There isn’t anything cheerful to talk about right now, so would you rather there be no postings? I’m genuinely curious what you think an appropriate tone is right now.

Let me respectfully take a shot an answering your question. I read the board daily for two main reasons: I am a proud ODU alum and living six hours away I count on the board to provide Monarch information that is otherwise difficult to find. More power to anyone who decides to post, but the forum is starting to feel like I am reading yesterday's newspaper over and over again. Fire the AD. Fire the football coach. Fire the basketball coach. Burn down Webb Center because it's old. We are having a crappy basketball season, I get it and I certainly am not 'cheerful' about it. I understand I can ignore the forum if I don't like I am reading. But damn, we sound like an entitled fan base when we are calling for someone's head after every loss (and often after victories as well). It feels like some of us simply overreact for the sake of overreacting. And, to me, overreacting is not synonymous to fan loyalty.

Look, it’s another “raise your hand if you’re miserable” thread! The comments that make me laugh the most are “I won’t stand for this, how can u accept this?” It’s soo soft. Jeez, I’m not sure if it’s sad or funny. A little bit of both I guess. Did the coach yell at the players again in this game? This is unbelievable!

No, what’s truly unbelievable is that anyone finds this trash product watchable or acceptable.

How soft are you that you just accept any crap anyone gives you because you are afraid to criticize anything? If you wanted a nice juicy steak for dinner and go to a gourmet restaurant and order one and then the waiter brings you out Taco Bell do you just accept it and eat it? The true soft posters are the ones who refuse to see how far this program has truly fallen.

NOBODY FINDS THIS ACCEPTABLE.

This is the problem I have with the frontline of the Fire JJ squadron. It's not that he's beyond reproach or shouldn't be questioned. It's this combination of patting yourselves on the back for being the first to call for his firing (or never being happy with him in the first place) while building up this strawman argument that everyone who isn't in lockstep with your view is blindly in love with him and cannot accept any criticism about him. It is entirely possible — and, I would submit, very reasonable — to be happy with things he's done well, not be happy with things he hasn't done well, and weight all those factors in an evolving view of whether he should be coach here.

It's like playing poker with someone who goes all-in or folds on every hand.

Poetry. On to next season when the chips will truly be down.

(02-23-2020 05:39 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 05:25 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 01:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 12:12 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 11:04 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  Let me respectfully take a shot an answering your question. I read the board daily for two main reasons: I am a proud ODU alum and living six hours away I count on the board to provide Monarch information that is otherwise difficult to find. More power to anyone who decides to post, but the forum is starting to feel like I am reading yesterday's newspaper over and over again. Fire the AD. Fire the football coach. Fire the basketball coach. Burn down Webb Center because it's old. We are having a crappy basketball season, I get it and I certainly am not 'cheerful' about it. I understand I can ignore the forum if I don't like I am reading. But damn, we sound like an entitled fan base when we are calling for someone's head after every loss (and often after victories as well). It feels like some of us simply overreact for the sake of overreacting. And, to me, overreacting is not synonymous to fan loyalty.

Look, it’s another “raise your hand if you’re miserable” thread! The comments that make me laugh the most are “I won’t stand for this, how can u accept this?” It’s soo soft. Jeez, I’m not sure if it’s sad or funny. A little bit of both I guess. Did the coach yell at the players again in this game? This is unbelievable!

No, what’s truly unbelievable is that anyone finds this trash product watchable or acceptable.

How soft are you that you just accept any crap anyone gives you because you are afraid to criticize anything? If you wanted a nice juicy steak for dinner and go to a gourmet restaurant and order one and then the waiter brings you out Taco Bell do you just accept it and eat it? The true soft posters are the ones who refuse to see how far this program has truly fallen.

NOBODY FINDS THIS ACCEPTABLE.

This is the problem I have with the frontline of the Fire JJ squadron. It's not that he's beyond reproach or shouldn't be questioned. It's this combination of patting yourselves on the back for being the first to call for his firing (or never being happy with him in the first place) while building up this strawman argument that everyone who isn't in lockstep with your view is blindly in love with him and cannot accept any criticism about him. It is entirely possible — and, I would submit, very reasonable — to be happy with things he's done well, not be happy with things he hasn't done well, and weight all those factors in an evolving view of whether he should be coach here.

It's like playing poker with someone who goes all-in or folds on every hand.

Pretty much this.

It was asked what I thought correct posting posture should be? It would be posting your fire jj thread in one of the OTHER TWO fire jj threads. We alllllll get it. People want him to be let go now.

It's not. going. to. happen. Until at least next year. So chill with the constant deluge or call the AD.



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You should bump all the fire JJ threads to make a point. The mods looooove that.

(02-23-2020 05:39 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 05:25 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 01:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 12:12 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 11:04 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  Let me respectfully take a shot an answering your question. I read the board daily for two main reasons: I am a proud ODU alum and living six hours away I count on the board to provide Monarch information that is otherwise difficult to find. More power to anyone who decides to post, but the forum is starting to feel like I am reading yesterday's newspaper over and over again. Fire the AD. Fire the football coach. Fire the basketball coach. Burn down Webb Center because it's old. We are having a crappy basketball season, I get it and I certainly am not 'cheerful' about it. I understand I can ignore the forum if I don't like I am reading. But damn, we sound like an entitled fan base when we are calling for someone's head after every loss (and often after victories as well). It feels like some of us simply overreact for the sake of overreacting. And, to me, overreacting is not synonymous to fan loyalty.

Look, it’s another “raise your hand if you’re miserable” thread! The comments that make me laugh the most are “I won’t stand for this, how can u accept this?” It’s soo soft. Jeez, I’m not sure if it’s sad or funny. A little bit of both I guess. Did the coach yell at the players again in this game? This is unbelievable!

No, what’s truly unbelievable is that anyone finds this trash product watchable or acceptable.

How soft are you that you just accept any crap anyone gives you because you are afraid to criticize anything? If you wanted a nice juicy steak for dinner and go to a gourmet restaurant and order one and then the waiter brings you out Taco Bell do you just accept it and eat it? The true soft posters are the ones who refuse to see how far this program has truly fallen.

NOBODY FINDS THIS ACCEPTABLE.

This is the problem I have with the frontline of the Fire JJ squadron. It's not that he's beyond reproach or shouldn't be questioned. It's this combination of patting yourselves on the back for being the first to call for his firing (or never being happy with him in the first place) while building up this strawman argument that everyone who isn't in lockstep with your view is blindly in love with him and cannot accept any criticism about him. It is entirely possible — and, I would submit, very reasonable — to be happy with things he's done well, not be happy with things he hasn't done well, and weight all those factors in an evolving view of whether he should be coach here.

It's like playing poker with someone who goes all-in or folds on every hand.

Pretty much this.

It was asked what I thought correct posting posture should be? It would be posting your fire jj thread in one of the OTHER TWO fire jj threads. We alllllll get it. People want him to be let go now.

It's not. going. to. happen. Until at least next year. So chill with the constant deluge or call

Are you happy it's not going to happen? Are you looking forward to more mediocre hoops? Just wondering.

(02-23-2020 06:09 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 05:39 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 05:25 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 01:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 12:12 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  Look, it’s another “raise your hand if you’re miserable” thread! The comments that make me laugh the most are “I won’t stand for this, how can u accept this?” It’s soo soft. Jeez, I’m not sure if it’s sad or funny. A little bit of both I guess. Did the coach yell at the players again in this game? This is unbelievable!

No, what’s truly unbelievable is that anyone finds this trash product watchable or acceptable.

How soft are you that you just accept any crap anyone gives you because you are afraid to criticize anything? If you wanted a nice juicy steak for dinner and go to a gourmet restaurant and order one and then the waiter brings you out Taco Bell do you just accept it and eat it? The true soft posters are the ones who refuse to see how far this program has truly fallen.

NOBODY FINDS THIS ACCEPTABLE.

This is the problem I have with the frontline of the Fire JJ squadron. It's not that he's beyond reproach or shouldn't be questioned. It's this combination of patting yourselves on the back for being the first to call for his firing (or never being happy with him in the first place) while building up this strawman argument that everyone who isn't in lockstep with your view is blindly in love with him and cannot accept any criticism about him. It is entirely possible — and, I would submit, very reasonable — to be happy with things he's done well, not be happy with things he hasn't done well, and weight all those factors in an evolving view of whether he should be coach here.

It's like playing poker with someone who goes all-in or folds on every hand.

Pretty much this.

It was asked what I thought correct posting posture should be? It would be posting your fire jj thread in one of the OTHER TWO fire jj threads. We alllllll get it. People want him to be let go now.

It's not. going. to. happen. Until at least next year. So chill with the constant deluge or call

Are you happy it's not going to happen? Are you looking forward to more mediocre hoops? Just wondering.

Other than this year, Jones has not had a losing season at ODU. I guess one subpar season is enough to make a change. Sounds pretty reasonable to me. All those mediocre 25+ win seasons. That mediocre conference title a year ago. Yep, time for him to go.

(02-23-2020 06:50 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 06:09 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 05:39 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 05:25 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 01:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  No, what’s truly unbelievable is that anyone finds this trash product watchable or acceptable.

How soft are you that you just accept any crap anyone gives you because you are afraid to criticize anything? If you wanted a nice juicy steak for dinner and go to a gourmet restaurant and order one and then the waiter brings you out Taco Bell do you just accept it and eat it? The true soft posters are the ones who refuse to see how far this program has truly fallen.

NOBODY FINDS THIS ACCEPTABLE.

This is the problem I have with the frontline of the Fire JJ squadron. It's not that he's beyond reproach or shouldn't be questioned. It's this combination of patting yourselves on the back for being the first to call for his firing (or never being happy with him in the first place) while building up this strawman argument that everyone who isn't in lockstep with your view is blindly in love with him and cannot accept any criticism about him. It is entirely possible — and, I would submit, very reasonable — to be happy with things he's done well, not be happy with things he hasn't done well, and weight all those factors in an evolving view of whether he should be coach here.

It's like playing poker with someone who goes all-in or folds on every hand.

Pretty much this.

It was asked what I thought correct posting posture should be? It would be posting your fire jj thread in one of the OTHER TWO fire jj threads. We alllllll get it. People want him to be let go now.

It's not. going. to. happen. Until at least next year. So chill with the constant deluge or call

Are you happy it's not going to happen? Are you looking forward to more mediocre hoops? Just wondering.

Other than this year, Jones has not had a losing season at ODU. I guess one subpar season is enough to make a change. Sounds pretty reasonable to me. All those mediocre 25+ win seasons. That mediocre conference title a year ago. Yep, time for him to go.

It’s definitely absurd for anyone to think Jones will be let go after this season. But he will not recover from a repeat of this season - and I expect next season we will finish easily in the top four. The question is can he land the bigs we need to take this team to the next level. If not, then it’s time to go.

(02-23-2020 05:25 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 01:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 12:12 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 11:04 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 10:20 PM)Fatalisk Wrote:  What is your vision for a team message board at a time like this? There isn’t anything cheerful to talk about right now, so would you rather there be no postings? I’m genuinely curious what you think an appropriate tone is right now.

Let me respectfully take a shot an answering your question. I read the board daily for two main reasons: I am a proud ODU alum and living six hours away I count on the board to provide Monarch information that is otherwise difficult to find. More power to anyone who decides to post, but the forum is starting to feel like I am reading yesterday's newspaper over and over again. Fire the AD. Fire the football coach. Fire the basketball coach. Burn down Webb Center because it's old. We are having a crappy basketball season, I get it and I certainly am not 'cheerful' about it. I understand I can ignore the forum if I don't like I am reading. But damn, we sound like an entitled fan base when we are calling for someone's head after every loss (and often after victories as well). It feels like some of us simply overreact for the sake of overreacting. And, to me, overreacting is not synonymous to fan loyalty.

Look, it’s another “raise your hand if you’re miserable” thread! The comments that make me laugh the most are “I won’t stand for this, how can u accept this?” It’s soo soft. Jeez, I’m not sure if it’s sad or funny. A little bit of both I guess. Did the coach yell at the players again in this game? This is unbelievable!

No, what’s truly unbelievable is that anyone finds this trash product watchable or acceptable.

How soft are you that you just accept any crap anyone gives you because you are afraid to criticize anything? If you wanted a nice juicy steak for dinner and go to a gourmet restaurant and order one and then the waiter brings you out Taco Bell do you just accept it and eat it? The true soft posters are the ones who refuse to see how far this program has truly fallen.

NOBODY FINDS THIS ACCEPTABLE.

This is the problem I have with the frontline of the Fire JJ squadron. It's not that he's beyond reproach or shouldn't be questioned. It's this combination of patting yourselves on the back for being the first to call for his firing (or never being happy with him in the first place) while building up this strawman argument that everyone who isn't in lockstep with your view is blindly in love with him and cannot accept any criticism about him. It is entirely possible — and, I would submit, very reasonable — to be happy with things he's done well, not be happy with things he hasn't done well, and weight all those factors in an evolving view of whether he should be coach here.

It's like playing poker with someone who goes all-in or folds on every hand.

This. No one is happy about this year. Hell, if you had told me before the season that Malik Curry would have the year he's having, I would have crowned us CUSA champs. PG was supposed to be our weak spot. Other positions just haven't worked out, for a variety of reasons.

I've mentioned before that I see a team with some good young parts. It's up to JJ to develop these guys, and he has 3 scholarships to add other pieces that we need.

Coming off a season where JJ checked all of the boxes, I don't see a need to blow it up and start over, at least not yer.

(02-23-2020 01:28 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 01:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 12:12 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 11:04 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 10:20 PM)Fatalisk Wrote:  What is your vision for a team message board at a time like this? There isn’t anything cheerful to talk about right now, so would you rather there be no postings? I’m genuinely curious what you think an appropriate tone is right now.

Let me respectfully take a shot an answering your question. I read the board daily for two main reasons: I am a proud ODU alum and living six hours away I count on the board to provide Monarch information that is otherwise difficult to find. More power to anyone who decides to post, but the forum is starting to feel like I am reading yesterday's newspaper over and over again. Fire the AD. Fire the football coach. Fire the basketball coach. Burn down Webb Center because it's old. We are having a crappy basketball season, I get it and I certainly am not 'cheerful' about it. I understand I can ignore the forum if I don't like I am reading. But damn, we sound like an entitled fan base when we are calling for someone's head after every loss (and often after victories as well). It feels like some of us simply overreact for the sake of overreacting. And, to me, overreacting is not synonymous to fan loyalty.

Look, it’s another “raise your hand if you’re miserable” thread! The comments that make me laugh the most are “I won’t stand for this, how can u accept this?” It’s soo soft. Jeez, I’m not sure if it’s sad or funny. A little bit of both I guess. Did the coach yell at the players again in this game? This is unbelievable!

No, what’s truly unbelievable is that anyone finds this trash product watchable or acceptable.

How soft are you that you just accept any crap anyone gives you because you are afraid to criticize anything? If you wanted a nice juicy steak for dinner and go to a gourmet restaurant and order one and then the waiter brings you out Taco Bell do you just accept it and eat it? The true soft posters are the ones who refuse to see how far this program has truly fallen.

I’m glad I’m not the only one that used the word “entitled”. What happens if we stink for 2 years??? That should be entertaining. Here, I’ll finish up this thread for everyone....

The program has fallen soo far!! We haven’t been to the NCAA tournament in a year! I’m a better fan cause I yell and scream! Their players are bigger than ours!!! Where are all the centers!?!?!? Our recruiting stinks!! I will not stand for this!!! Hahaha. Stop yelling at the players!!!

About the nuanced answer I’d expect from someone with absolutely no point to make whatsoever

There are only 3 because the other 2 have been locked.

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Let's pretend Jones resigns at the end of this season. What is the bar for his replacement? Assume the new coach has been at the helm for five years. How many CUSA titles would realistically be expected? How many NCAA tournament wins in those five years? What would we need to see in order for "The Program is in Freefall" thoughts to disappear? Not being sarcastic...genuinely interested to hear some opinions.

(02-24-2020 01:20 AM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  Let's pretend Jones resigns at the end of this season. What is the bar for his replacement? Assume the new coach has been at the helm for five years. How many CUSA titles would realistically be expected? How many NCAA tournament wins in those five years? What would we need to see in order for "The Program is in Freefall" thoughts to disappear? Not being sarcastic...genuinely interested to hear some opinions.

You don't get it. It isn't so much the wins, titles, etc. We are seeing exactly what we saw at the end of Blaine's reign, minus the alcohol I assume, and why many of us were expressing concern even during that last good year we had. How about roster stability and the ability to find enough student athletes that want to be here to fill 13 scholarships every year? Tell tale signs of a program in free fall. Many of could see this when Blaine started compromising and adding JUCOs and transfers just to fill the last spot.

Also, how about 2 D1 players for all 5 basketball positions? Is that too much to ask? I think if these basic fundamentals are addressed, the rest will fall into place.

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(02-23-2020 09:19 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 05:25 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 01:10 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(02-23-2020 12:12 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(02-22-2020 11:04 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  Let me respectfully take a shot an answering your question. I read the board daily for two main reasons: I am a proud ODU alum and living six hours away I count on the board to provide Monarch information that is otherwise difficult to find. More power to anyone who decides to post, but the forum is starting to feel like I am reading yesterday's newspaper over and over again. Fire the AD. Fire the football coach. Fire the basketball coach. Burn down Webb Center because it's old. We are having a crappy basketball season, I get it and I certainly am not 'cheerful' about it. I understand I can ignore the forum if I don't like I am reading. But damn, we sound like an entitled fan base when we are calling for someone's head after every loss (and often after victories as well). It feels like some of us simply overreact for the sake of overreacting. And, to me, overreacting is not synonymous to fan loyalty.

Look, it’s another “raise your hand if you’re miserable” thread! The comments that make me laugh the most are “I won’t stand for this, how can u accept this?” It’s soo soft. Jeez, I’m not sure if it’s sad or funny. A little bit of both I guess. Did the coach yell at the players again in this game? This is unbelievable!

No, what’s truly unbelievable is that anyone finds this trash product watchable or acceptable.

How soft are you that you just accept any crap anyone gives you because you are afraid to criticize anything? If you wanted a nice juicy steak for dinner and go to a gourmet restaurant and order one and then the waiter brings you out Taco Bell do you just accept it and eat it? The true soft posters are the ones who refuse to see how far this program has truly fallen.

NOBODY FINDS THIS ACCEPTABLE.

This is the problem I have with the frontline of the Fire JJ squadron. It's not that he's beyond reproach or shouldn't be questioned. It's this combination of patting yourselves on the back for being the first to call for his firing (or never being happy with him in the first place) while building up this strawman argument that everyone who isn't in lockstep with your view is blindly in love with him and cannot accept any criticism about him. It is entirely possible — and, I would submit, very reasonable — to be happy with things he's done well, not be happy with things he hasn't done well, and weight all those factors in an evolving view of whether he should be coach here.

It's like playing poker with someone who goes all-in or folds on every hand.

This. No one is happy about this year. Hell, if you had told me before the season that Malik Curry would have the year he's having, I would have crowned us CUSA champs. PG was supposed to be our weak spot. Other positions just haven't worked out, for a variety of reasons.

I've mentioned before that I see a team with some good young parts. It's up to JJ to develop these guys, and he has 3 scholarships to add other pieces that we need.

Coming off a season where JJ checked all of the boxes, I don't see a need to blow it up and start over, at least not yer.

In any of the ODU's offseasons, has Jeff ever landed the missing piece we needed in our recruiting efforts?

Do you really think hes going to land our missing pieces?

All the years missing out on solid frontcourt players has eventually caught up to us in that now we're playing 2 sophmores in Kalu and Reece. The experience isnt there and we're feeling it.

Same smell after every season.