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Peyton Ramsey, Indiana Hoosiers quarterback from Elder HS, enters transfer portal

I think somebody around here mentioned the rumor that he might be a grad transfer candidate for UC. Well, step 1 of the process has started. I like him a lot, but I'm not sure I see the fit here. On the other hand, you can never have too much talent and I recall us going maybe 5 or 6 deep on QBs during one of BK's years iirc.

(01-27-2020 07:48 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Peyton Ramsey, Indiana Hoosiers quarterback from Elder HS, enters transfer portal

I think somebody around here mentioned the rumor that he might be a grad transfer candidate for UC. Well, step 1 of the process has started. I like him a lot, but I'm not sure I see the fit here. On the other hand, you can never have too much talent and I recall us going maybe 5 or 6 deep on QBs during one of BK's years iirc.

The QB room does seem to be standing room only right now. Quite frankly if there's no harm in bringing him in, i'd be all for it but if it results in pushing one of our own to enter the transfer portal i'd pass on it. Besides, from his perspective i imagine he'd probably be looking to find a spot where he has a realistic chance of starting right away. i don't see Cincy being that opportunity.

(01-27-2020 09:22 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(01-27-2020 07:48 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Peyton Ramsey, Indiana Hoosiers quarterback from Elder HS, enters transfer portal

I think somebody around here mentioned the rumor that he might be a grad transfer candidate for UC. Well, step 1 of the process has started. I like him a lot, but I'm not sure I see the fit here. On the other hand, you can never have too much talent and I recall us going maybe 5 or 6 deep on QBs during one of BK's years iirc.

The QB room does seem to be standing room only right now. Quite frankly if there's no harm in bringing him in, i'd be all for it but if it results in pushing one of our own to enter the transfer portal i'd pass on it. Besides, from his perspective i imagine he'd probably be looking to find a spot where he has a realistic chance of starting right away. i don't see Cincy being that opportunity.

Peyton Ramsey is a good runner (not quite as good as Desmond Ritter) but is a superior passer and has been mostly a Big-10 starting qb for 3 years.
I feel he has more upside than our present starter. Having said that I would prefer to go with Ben Bryant because he has come up through the ranks, has the best arm of the three and he gives us 2 more years.

Bringing in another upperclassman QB will fracture the room and likely cause multiple transfers. He won't be playing for us, but he very well may be playing against us this year.

(01-27-2020 10:15 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Bringing in another upperclassman QB will fracture the room and likely cause multiple transfers. He won't be playing for us, but he very well may be playing against us this year.

You think he goes to My-AM-uh?

(01-27-2020 11:14 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(01-27-2020 10:15 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Bringing in another upperclassman QB will fracture the room and likely cause multiple transfers. He won't be playing for us, but he very well may be playing against us this year.

You think he goes to My-AM-uh?

They have a good QB already.

He knows he can’t hang on to the IU job.

(01-28-2020 05:57 AM)Dannyboy Wrote:  He knows he can’t hang on to the IU job.

Their present coach did not recruit Ramsey. He is determined to go with a dual threat "hybrid" qb. While this qb frequently gets dinged up Ramsey just continues to put up strong numbers. I think I would enter the transfer portal as well.

Ramsey had a 68% completion percentage and averaged over 8 yards an attempt. We had one 60% completion game since conference play started. I would have liked to see what Bryant could do with extended playing time but if the staff doesn't believe in him and doesn't want to play a true freshman then Ramsey is a substantial upgrade over our production at QB and I'd bring him in as a bridge to Prater.

I just don't see the staff bringing in someone who might or might not be a marginally better QB than Dez for 1 year. Fickell often talks about Dez being one of the leaders of this team. He isn't going to undermine that by bringing someone in for 1 year over him, unless its a definite win like a Jalen Hurts or Joe Burrow type (I know, Burrow would have been 2 years). Ramsey isn't that. He has been a productive Big 10 starter and, I think, he would only come here if he sees a definite opportunity to start. I don't think that exists either. If a young guy beats Dez in the spring/summer, the staff will call it what it is and Dez can continue to be a senior leader on the team.

(01-28-2020 08:04 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  Ramsey had a 68% completion percentage and averaged over 8 yards an attempt. We had one 60% completion game since conference play started. I would have liked to see what Bryant could do with extended playing time but if the staff doesn't believe in him and doesn't want to play a true freshman then Ramsey is a substantial upgrade over our production at QB and I'd bring him in as a bridge to Prater.

I'm inclined to agree based upon his production. I guess what none of us know is how to factor in what's going on with the current scholarship QB's behind the scenes. Maybe a couple are ready to transfer, Prater will redshirt and this is the backstop? Too many moving parts hidden from view to understand.

He has experience at the highest level and is a player from a highly regarded local high school football program. Much to like here. And I have enough confidence in this coaching staff to say they wouldn't pursue him if they felt it would undermine the kind of team chemistry we saw displayed earlier this month in Birmingham.

(01-28-2020 08:33 AM)bearcatdp Wrote:  I just don't see the staff bringing in someone who might or might not be a marginally better QB than Dez for 1 year. Fickell often talks about Dez being one of the leaders of this team. He isn't going to undermine that by bringing someone in for 1 year over him, unless its a definite win like a Jalen Hurts or Joe Burrow type (I know, Burrow would have been 2 years). Ramsey isn't that. He has been a productive Big 10 starter and, I think, he would only come here if he sees a definite opportunity to start. I don't think that exists either. If a young guy beats Dez in the spring/summer, the staff will call it what it is and Dez can continue to be a senior leader on the team.

Bolded. Productive B10 Starter. Our QB production is bottom half of the AAC. Seems to me an obvious upgrade. Des may be a leader but being a leader doesn't excuse you from producing.

Again my preference would have been to see if the solution to our QB production is internal but they decided against that. Ramsey's one year of eligibility gives you a great bridge to Prater.

(01-28-2020 08:46 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(01-28-2020 08:33 AM)bearcatdp Wrote:  I just don't see the staff bringing in someone who might or might not be a marginally better QB than Dez for 1 year. Fickell often talks about Dez being one of the leaders of this team. He isn't going to undermine that by bringing someone in for 1 year over him, unless its a definite win like a Jalen Hurts or Joe Burrow type (I know, Burrow would have been 2 years). Ramsey isn't that. He has been a productive Big 10 starter and, I think, he would only come here if he sees a definite opportunity to start. I don't think that exists either. If a young guy beats Dez in the spring/summer, the staff will call it what it is and Dez can continue to be a senior leader on the team.

Bolded. Productive B10 Starter. Our QB production is bottom half of the AAC. Seems to me an obvious upgrade. Des may be a leader but being a leader doesn't excuse you from producing.

Again my preference would have been to see if the solution to our QB production is internal but they decided against that. Ramsey's one year of eligibility gives you a great bridge to Prater.

Do you know something more? I thought we were just speculating that he might come here.

FWIW the rumor was started by ThreeRiversKing on 1/3/20 in the thread "A few quarterback thoughts" long before Ramsey entered the portal.

"Nobody can argue about Des Ridder's record. His excellent running has led us to many wins, his passing not so much.
For UC to make the leap to top 15 status I feel we also need strong passing.
Whichever Qb has the better passing acumen this spring so be it.
Rumblings from the west side have been that Peyton Ramsey might be looking into becoming a grad transfer to UC.
Your thoughts?
I think we are solid with current roster/incoming recruits we have now."

(01-28-2020 09:04 AM)dubcat14 Wrote:  FWIW the rumor was started by ThreeRiversKing on 1/3/20 in the thread "A few quarterback thoughts" long before Ramsey entered the portal.

"Nobody can argue about Des Ridder's record. His excellent running has led us to many wins, his passing not so much.
For UC to make the leap to top 15 status I feel we also need strong passing.
Whichever Qb has the better passing acumen this spring so be it.
Rumblings from the west side have been that Peyton Ramsey might be looking into becoming a grad transfer to UC.
Your thoughts?
I think we are solid with current roster/incoming recruits we have now."

Intuitively, it makes a lot more sense than him finishing his career at a place such as Georgia Southern or Montana.

I trust the coaching staff. If they bring in Ramsey, they must think it will make the team better. I will support it. If they decide not to, they must trust in the guys they have. I will support it.

He’s going to look to pull a Joe Burrow. OT was probably appropriate.

(01-28-2020 09:06 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(01-28-2020 09:04 AM)dubcat14 Wrote:  FWIW the rumor was started by ThreeRiversKing on 1/3/20 in the thread "A few quarterback thoughts" long before Ramsey entered the portal.

"Nobody can argue about Des Ridder's record. His excellent running has led us to many wins, his passing not so much.
For UC to make the leap to top 15 status I feel we also need strong passing.
Whichever Qb has the better passing acumen this spring so be it.
Rumblings from the west side have been that Peyton Ramsey might be looking into becoming a grad transfer to UC.
Your thoughts?
I think we are solid with current roster/incoming recruits we have now."

Intuitively, it makes a lot more sense than him finishing his career at a place such as Georgia Southern or Montana.

He wouldn't fall that far...there are plenty of schools in the P5 with newfound vacancies who would be happy to take him (Virginia and Vanderbilt ring a bell) and I would absolutely see him at a school like Toledo, Ohio, Miami etc. before going to the middle of nowhere in FCS. Oddly enough, all three of those schools also have open doors at QB (To the person who said Miami had a good QB, please look at his actual stats...he was unspectacular at best and would be a perfect redshirt candidate this season) and are relatively local options.

(01-28-2020 08:54 AM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(01-28-2020 08:46 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  Again my preference would have been to see if the solution to our QB production is internal but they decided against that. Ramsey's one year of eligibility gives you a great bridge to Prater.

Do you know something more? I thought we were just speculating that he might come here.

No, I was referring to the unwillingness to bench a struggling starter and play Bryant. I was saying they had an ideal opportunity to give Bryant playing time and didn't. I wasn't saying they were going after Ramsey.

(01-28-2020 09:52 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(01-28-2020 08:54 AM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(01-28-2020 08:46 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  Again my preference would have been to see if the solution to our QB production is internal but they decided against that. Ramsey's one year of eligibility gives you a great bridge to Prater.

Do you know something more? I thought we were just speculating that he might come here.

No, I was referring to the unwillingness to bench a struggling starter and play Bryant. I was saying they had an ideal opportunity to give Bryant playing time and didn't. I wasn't saying they were going after Ramsey.

Okay, I thought that might have been what you were referring to, but wasn't completely sure. Thanks for the clarification.