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RE: Recording:Trump talking with indicted businessmen the President has said doesn’t know
(01-26-2020 10:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
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(01-26-2020 09:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  So...It's inconceivable that the POTUS who encounters lots of new people each day in his job could forget someone 2 years ago and say that he did not know them? DJT is over 70. EVERYONE over the age 50 has problems remembering stuff. This is not going to stick Mensa.

Not inconceivable at all, but at this point this is obviously Trump's go to any time anything comes out. He obviously knows at least some of these people. I would hope we can at least all agree to that, whether or not any of us think any of this stuff is a crime or an impeachable offense or whatever.

"I don't know them" is just classic CYA and he uses it constantly. It's that or he has dementia, because a lot of people he "never met" he has known since before his presidency. You could likely easily google it and find 20 or 30 people that Trump is on record saying he doesn't know. This isn't some one off

In the last three years, how many people have you talked with that you don't really know? I'd venture to say that it is well over a hundred people.

Trump knows Parnas, but we need to have Parnas testify under oath... along with Bolton.

Then the House should have done its job.
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RE: Recording:Trump talking with indicted businessmen the President has said doesn’t know
(01-27-2020 06:24 AM)appst89 Wrote:  
(01-26-2020 10:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(01-26-2020 10:21 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(01-26-2020 10:10 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  
(01-26-2020 09:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  So...It's inconceivable that the POTUS who encounters lots of new people each day in his job could forget someone 2 years ago and say that he did not know them? DJT is over 70. EVERYONE over the age 50 has problems remembering stuff. This is not going to stick Mensa.

Not inconceivable at all, but at this point this is obviously Trump's go to any time anything comes out. He obviously knows at least some of these people. I would hope we can at least all agree to that, whether or not any of us think any of this stuff is a crime or an impeachable offense or whatever.

"I don't know them" is just classic CYA and he uses it constantly. It's that or he has dementia, because a lot of people he "never met" he has known since before his presidency. You could likely easily google it and find 20 or 30 people that Trump is on record saying he doesn't know. This isn't some one off

In the last three years, how many people have you talked with that you don't really know? I'd venture to say that it is well over a hundred people.

Trump knows Parnas, but we need to have Parnas testify under oath... along with Bolton.

Then the House should have done its job.

They did. Parnas, the guy the President didn’t know, was being shielded by the President’s legal team and told not to comply with his subpoena.
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RE: Recording:Trump talking with indicted businessmen the President has said doesn’t know
(01-27-2020 08:35 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(01-27-2020 06:24 AM)appst89 Wrote:  
(01-26-2020 10:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(01-26-2020 10:21 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(01-26-2020 10:10 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  Not inconceivable at all, but at this point this is obviously Trump's go to any time anything comes out. He obviously knows at least some of these people. I would hope we can at least all agree to that, whether or not any of us think any of this stuff is a crime or an impeachable offense or whatever.

"I don't know them" is just classic CYA and he uses it constantly. It's that or he has dementia, because a lot of people he "never met" he has known since before his presidency. You could likely easily google it and find 20 or 30 people that Trump is on record saying he doesn't know. This isn't some one off

In the last three years, how many people have you talked with that you don't really know? I'd venture to say that it is well over a hundred people.

Trump knows Parnas, but we need to have Parnas testify under oath... along with Bolton.

Then the House should have done its job.

They did. Parnas, the guy the President didn’t know, was being shielded by the President’s legal team and told not to comply with his subpoena.

They didn't. If they wanted witnesses, they could have gone through the process to have them called. They chose not to. They failed, they know they failed and now they are trying to create distractions because it is so plainly obvious that they failed.

This stunt, like the ones before it didn't achieve its goal. Time to move on to the next one because we all know there will be a next one.
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RE: Recording:Trump talking with indicted businessmen the President has said doesn’t know
(01-27-2020 08:35 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(01-27-2020 06:24 AM)appst89 Wrote:  
(01-26-2020 10:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(01-26-2020 10:21 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(01-26-2020 10:10 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  Not inconceivable at all, but at this point this is obviously Trump's go to any time anything comes out. He obviously knows at least some of these people. I would hope we can at least all agree to that, whether or not any of us think any of this stuff is a crime or an impeachable offense or whatever.

"I don't know them" is just classic CYA and he uses it constantly. It's that or he has dementia, because a lot of people he "never met" he has known since before his presidency. You could likely easily google it and find 20 or 30 people that Trump is on record saying he doesn't know. This isn't some one off

In the last three years, how many people have you talked with that you don't really know? I'd venture to say that it is well over a hundred people.

Trump knows Parnas, but we need to have Parnas testify under oath... along with Bolton.

Then the House should have done its job.

They did. Parnas, the guy the President didn’t know, was being shielded by the President’s legal team and told not to comply with his subpoena.

Then go to court and compel testimony. That’s what the House has always done in the past.....oh, that’s right, drunk Nancy said and Lyin’ Adam declared that their case was “overwhelming* and uncontested”—-thus, they didn’t need any more evidence. Lol...Democrats....
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Recording:Trump talking with indicted businessmen the President has said doesn’t know
(01-27-2020 01:25 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
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(01-26-2020 11:06 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  
(01-26-2020 10:21 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  In the last three years, how many people have you talked with that you don't really know? I'd venture to say that it is well over a hundred people.

How many important people in my career / dealing with my business have I met that later I would say I "didn't know"? Has to be near zero. Like I said, maybe he doesn't know a few people he says he doesn't know, but this is obviously a trend. Any time anything bad happens revolving around a person, he just says he doesn't know them. "I don't know them" is just covering your *** ...or maybe he really does have dementia. And I can understand him meeting a ton of people. He probably meets a ton more than any of us ever will in our lifetimes, but this just happens so often at this point.

May 3, 2019 / Random people Trump says he doesn't know: https://time.com/5582741/donald-trump-ne...esnt-know/

Nov 17, 2019 / Ukraine Investigation: https://www.axios.com/trump-doesnt-know-...48851.html

Dec 4, 2019 / Prince Andrew: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-...d-n1096081

That's just a few off the first page of google results. There are likely a lot more

I looked at your bottom link

Quote:“He’s not pretentious. He’s a lot of fun to be with,” Trump told People in 2000, speaking of Andrew. The article also states that Trump and Andrew, as well as Trump’s then-girlfriend Melania Knauss, had “chatted” at a Halloween costume party hosted by Heidi Klum in New York City in 2000.

So they had to go back 20 years to find a time that Trump had "chatted" with the man? You do realize its possible to "know" someone but not know them? It's possible to meet someone, not "know" them?

After that link I really didnt think it was really necessary to look at the others. Let me ask you a question, not knowing how old you are but while in college you went to a party and met and talked to a girl for 5 minutes and this was a girl you never met before then 20 years later someone asked you do you know her...

think you would say yes? If you said no and someone showed you a pitcure from that party with you talking to her. Would that make you a liar?

The one thing the left has failed to do over the last 3 years, figure out when Trump says something its not usually the literal meaning.

example: A person is at a party with Trump he's talking to them. To those of you on the left, Trump must know that person. Trump, I dont "know them" you take it that he's saying he never met the person.

Which is exactly what he is implying to people reading the tweet, while simultaneously knowing in the back of his mind that he knows the person and he can use it as an out if ever questioned about it. It's to cover yourself. He's spoken with them. He's met with them. He knows who they are. He may not be best buds and know them super well, but he knows of them.

"Trump doesn't speak literally" just isn't a good defense for this. If you can't take what he says at face value, then that is a big problem. At some point, the POTUS needs to be taken straight up for what he actually says, not for some hidden meaning hidden in the subtext of his speech. People shouldn't have to guess at whether or not the president means what he says. That's dangerous for the position he holds.

When the cops ask you if you know someone, they're not wondering if you were best friends. They want to know if you have ever met with or spoken with the person, or even know who the person is. He tweets about many of these people and then later when something bad happens revolving them he says he has never heard of them/has never met them/doesn't know them. That is just classic use of CYA

Finally, referring to that one article you read, Trump has met Prince Andrew many times. That was just one example of a time when he met him. He talked with Prince Andrew just last year. You're going to tell me you wouldn't recall that you had met royalty? It's just laughable at this point.

And I'm sure some of these smaller fry people he probably doesn't remember meeting, so I'll give him lenience on that. Maybe he doesn't know this businessman.

The issue is is that there's just so much of a trend at this point to know what to believe in regards to who he does and doesn't know. I mean...just actually read the Time article. Trump clearly contradicts himself repeatedly on who he does and doesn't know. He just says whatever suits him at the time for the situation. Or like I said, he has dementia. It's one of the two based on how often it has happened.

In the words of Clinton, it depends what the meaning of "is" is. What does "knowing" someone mean? There are people I might know by sight because I see them behind the register at Chic Filet a couple of times a week. I dont know their name at all, and I might not even recognize them if I saw them outside of Chic Filet in another context. So, if someone asks if I know Zoe Benard---Id say "no". Then the reporter could go on TV and show video of me buying a sandwich from her multiple times at Chic Filet. Well, hell---I don't know that chick. Yeah, she looks vaguely familiar, but I still wouldnt say I "know" her.

The president literally goes to 1000's of fundraisers and events every year. Zero chance he remembers every persons name and face that he's ever seen or talked to. The clerk at Chic Filet is about the equivalent of being at some of these fund raisers when it comes to the president. I guarantee, he's had conversations similar to that one at hundreds of events with thousands of people. Im sure he's extremely appreciative of the financial support, but there is just no way for the guy to form a personal relationship with every donor who attends one of these fund raisers. This is a red herring---the kind of thing you make a big deal out of when you've got nothing else. If you looked this closely at Bidens crooked dealings he'd been jail years ago. In fact---the EXACT same thing happened to Biden when he said he didnt know any Burisma executives---then pictures surfaced of him playing golf with his son and other Burisma execs.


Just a few days ago Fauxcahontas bragged that she has now surpassed something like 300,000 “selfies” with supporters and hangers on.

By this stupidity I guess she now KNOWS all these people. They’re in a cell phone picture together after all...
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Can we all finally agree he knows the guy and lied? My ******* God. The ability of people to hide from even that truth is mind boggling. Is the relationship consequential? Who knows. But he clearly knows him.
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Recording:Trump talking with indicted businessmen the President has said doesn’t know
(01-27-2020 08:35 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(01-27-2020 06:24 AM)appst89 Wrote:  
(01-26-2020 10:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(01-26-2020 10:21 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(01-26-2020 10:10 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  Not inconceivable at all, but at this point this is obviously Trump's go to any time anything comes out. He obviously knows at least some of these people. I would hope we can at least all agree to that, whether or not any of us think any of this stuff is a crime or an impeachable offense or whatever.

"I don't know them" is just classic CYA and he uses it constantly. It's that or he has dementia, because a lot of people he "never met" he has known since before his presidency. You could likely easily google it and find 20 or 30 people that Trump is on record saying he doesn't know. This isn't some one off

In the last three years, how many people have you talked with that you don't really know? I'd venture to say that it is well over a hundred people.

Trump knows Parnas, but we need to have Parnas testify under oath... along with Bolton.

Then the House should have done its job.

They did. Parnas, the guy the President didn’t know, was being shielded by the President’s legal team and told not to comply with his subpoena.


Then go to court and have the subpoena enforced.

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(01-27-2020 08:35 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(01-27-2020 06:24 AM)appst89 Wrote:  Then the House should have done its job.

They did. Parnas, the guy the President didn’t know, was being shielded by the President’s legal team and told not to comply with his subpoena.

a) so why does Parnas want to comply with Trump?
b) Link to where the House tried to overcome the objection

Are the people you're trying to convince really this stupid?
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(01-26-2020 11:06 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  How many important people in my career / dealing with my business have I met that later I would say I "didn't know"? Has to be near zero. Like I said, maybe he doesn't know a few people he says he doesn't know, but this is obviously a trend. Any time anything bad happens revolving around a person, he just says he doesn't know them. "I don't know them" is just covering your *** ...or maybe he really does have dementia. And I can understand him meeting a ton of people. He probably meets a ton more than any of us ever will in our lifetimes, but this just happens so often at this point.

My gosh, that number wouldn't be anywhere close to zero for me, starting with presidents and senators and governors and a Texas Land Commissioner. I've met them, but I don't really know them. Although the last time I saw GHWB, he and Barbara actually acted like they really did know me, so maybe they felt like they did, but I never felt that way.

Bureaucrats act like every meeting and correspondence has to be recalled perfectly. I remember a situation where I did some quick and dirty projections for a client in a hurry because I was leaving the next day for France with my son for the 1998 World Cup. Ten years later, I got a phone call out of the blue from a bureaucrat, "Do you remember an email you sent to me in June 1998?"
"Well, no, at least not without a little more explanation."
"You really don't remember it?"
"No, I've slept since then."
"Well, you need to come up to Austin and explain it to us. What day are you free to come up next week?"
"Well, what is this about?"
"I told you, it's about an email you sent me in 1998."
"And what was the email about?"
"Just come up to Austin and we will discuss it."

So we set a date. I get a call from the client involved, they had called him too, and the date that works for me works for him too, so we go up to Austin. At now I know who it was about, but I don't have a copy of the email, or even know what the subject matter was, so I walk into the meeting with no idea what it is about. Turns out that I had made some long-range projections, reality had changed a bit from those projections, and it was a pretty easy explanation. Had the guy not felt the urge to be a bureaucrat, and had just asked me about what he needed to know, we would have been done and dusted with about a five-minute phone call. But he just had to be an a-hole about it because that's what bureaucrats do.
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Lol

Sounds about right.

I/we were invited to a dinner/evening event about 1994-95 in DC where we did considerable business.

Nice event, even had dirty protesters outside as we entered. Kind of a sit down dinner and discussion type thing on a stage like we’ve all seen QPJ was doing in his now infamous extortion brag.

Met Alan Simpson and, yes, Mikhail Gorbachev. (Guess I’m now a ROOOSKIES!!! stooge.

If Ten years later I’m sure we would have had a “selfie” together, but o well. I got a couple of bottles of commemorative wine with his name on it instead. Gorbys name.

Would they be required to remember me? Dear Lawdy I hope not. Clearly collusion, I might be in Rikers.

These people are insane with this crap
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(01-27-2020 11:32 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Can we all finally agree he knows the guy and lied? My ******* God. The ability of people to hide from even that truth is mind boggling. Is the relationship consequential? Who knows. But he clearly knows him.

He was just a guy that lived in the neighborhood......
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(01-28-2020 07:12 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(01-27-2020 11:32 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Can we all finally agree he knows the guy and lied? My ******* God. The ability of people to hide from even that truth is mind boggling. Is the relationship consequential? Who knows. But he clearly knows him.

He was just a guy that lived in the neighborhood......

Why does trump have all these hobos hanging around him?

All these recordings. All these Russians. What makes you think Putin doesn't have a copy too? I bet he's collected a lot of good Intel to go along with the pee tape. 05-stirthepot
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It depends on what the definition of 'know' is.
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(01-28-2020 01:30 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  It depends on what the definition of 'know' is.

“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is. If the—if he—if ‘is’ means is and never has been, that is not—that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement. …"
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Pathetic excuse for a gotcha moment there mensa...
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(01-28-2020 02:02 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(01-28-2020 01:30 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  It depends on what the definition of 'know' is.

“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is. If the—if he—if ‘is’ means is and never has been, that is not—that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement. …"

That was Clinton's comment... and you're right, he went off in a somewhat incomprehensible tangent....

But his point was that words matter and while clearly more petty than this, he was correct.

For context here... I've met and spoken to many many people and there could be pictures and audio and video of it... far less than Trump, but still lots of people...

If you asked me if I 'knew' them, I'd say no. I don't 'know' a decent percentage of my facebook 'friends'. Some of them are my kids friends, some I've worked with but not closely.

This is more weak sauce from the left. If you've got the goods, you don't need petty crap like this.
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Barbara Bush said my son was very sexy. Maybe she 'knew' him better than I think?

ftr, that's funny but not a joke... she saw a musical performance of his.




As to the 'I don't know anyone I'd met but wouldn't say I knew' foolishness...

So if one of them turned out to be a pedophile or rapist or racist or climate change denier and someone showed a picture of you with that person, you wouldn't deny 'knowing' them? You'd say you knew them, meaning you knew what sort of person they were and still smiled in the picture with them?
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FWIW:

ANOTHER recording of a dinner where both are present was just release. This one is audio.
https://soundcloud.com/the-daily-beast-p...-20-174219
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I spoke to Jack Nicholson in a men's room
I've spoken to Reba McIntyre in FAO Schwartz
I've had lunch with Colin Firth in a church fellowship hall
I've spoken personally... just the two of us to Reese Witherspoon for about 30 minutes... We're facebook and Instagram friends.

I played on a team with Charlie Joiner, Wes Chandler, Dan Fouts and others. I drove Leslie O'Neill to pick up his new Mercedes.

I could go on for a long time.

I wouldn't say I KNOW any of them, not could any of them likely pick me out of a line-up.
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(01-30-2020 02:00 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  I spoke to Jack Nicholson in a men's room
I've spoken to Reba McIntyre in FAO Schwartz
I've had lunch with Colin Firth in a church fellowship hall
I've spoken personally... just the two of us to Reese Witherspoon for about 30 minutes... We're facebook and Instagram friends.

I played on a team with Charlie Joiner, Wes Chandler, Dan Fouts and others. I drove Leslie O'Neill to pick up his new Mercedes.

I could go on for a long time.

I wouldn't say I KNOW any of them, not could any of them likely pick me out of a line-up.

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/01/...arnas.html

ANOTHER new video. So we have what... 2 videos of them together, a 3rd event with audio recording, and 3-4 photos of them together. The 2 videos of them dining together were only 10 days apart. I love this slow trickle of releasing lol. Trolling.

I get your point Hambone. Just posting YET ANOTHER chance encounter.
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