(01-16-2020 07:56 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(01-16-2020 10:44 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 10:48 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 03:45 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(01-14-2020 02:52 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Anyone who voted for USF is just being a spiteful ****.... $100 million upgrade in the past couple years. It may not be “ours” but it’s nicer than just about any college owned stadium out there.

It's a rental. It's like someone renting a really nice Airbnb and posting photos online saying "Look at my sweet pad!". I guess to be more accurate, it'd also be like posting photos of said Airbnb when the actual house has pictures all over the walls of another family who live there.

I’d rather rent a Rolls Royce then drive some aluminum tin can Yugo.

You can live in the hood and call it yours or rent a penthouse and laugh at the morons who have a bouncy house.

To each their own.

This post is highly ironic since USF is literally located in the hood. A rundown, total crap part of Tampa.

What happens when you rent a penthouse and no one shows up? It's too bad USF has no fans to watch games at your rented facility with other teams' stuff everywhere.

Bwahahaha, We’ve had higher attendance than your stadium can hold but ya that’s a hell of an argument to justify that crap joke that’s rusting beneath you. Pathetic

Back in the good ole days you were ranked #2 for a week too.

And in the current days we still have a winning record in every sport but one against UCF.

mtmedlin is what happens when a delusional fan watches his program win absolutely nothing of significance, ever, in their history and then lashes out in other ways to mask the massive insecurity that exists due to said not winning anything, ever.

Doogie, Helicopter, oasispirate, qwerty1, Stallion, Tomcat with the Tulane vote?!?

(01-17-2020 12:18 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Doogie, Helicopter, oasispirate, qwerty1, Stallion, Tomcat with the Tulane vote?!?

Ooohhh, out the other voters!

USFFan

(01-17-2020 12:24 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-17-2020 12:18 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Doogie, Helicopter, oasispirate, qwerty1, Stallion, Tomcat with the Tulane vote?!?

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(01-17-2020 12:28 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(01-17-2020 12:24 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-17-2020 12:18 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Doogie, Helicopter, oasispirate, qwerty1, Stallion, Tomcat with the Tulane vote?!?

Ooohhh, out the other voters!

USFFan

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I presume that only admins can see who actually voted. I did that - it just shows the number of votes, not who the actual voters were.

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Regarding Tulsa's football stadium, renovating and updating the bathrooms is priority #1. Its architecture is very nice.

Tulsa will be hosting Oklahoma State, Oklahoma U, and Arkansas. So I guess TU's stadium is good enough for some folks.

I have been in the stadiums of Cincinnati, Navy, ECU, and UCF. If I had to pick a favorite among those four, I would pick Navy because of all the historical and battle markers.

I sit in the east stands in the sun because the west side is mostly sold out to season ticket holders. I cannot get a good seat on the west side but I can on the east side.

Thanks, OutWest.

But now we have a THIRD !!1! vote for Navy.

Clearly an infiltration of communist hippies...

(01-17-2020 01:54 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Thanks, OutWest.

But now we have a THIRD !!1! vote for Navy.

Clearly an infiltration of communist hippies...

The pageantry, the midshipmen, the fly overs....its just a great experience to watch a football game at Navy. The battle markers, Pearl Harbor, Guadacanal, Midway, Okinawa....it stirs the soul.

I have been to many visitors' stadiums. It is always a good time with the cheering, pep squad, bands, cheering, etc. But a game at Navy is different which I have not experienced elsewhere, not even in OU's stadium with 85,000 fans. There is pause and reflection at Navy....along with the fun.

Tulsa made the Washington Post front page another time when I watched TU @Va Tech. VaTech was going "big time", dropping VMI off their schedule and they had teams like Alabama, Tennessee now on the schedule. THis was also some time ago of course. As I walked in the stadium, the Tech fans were not talking about Tulsa. They were talking about the SEC teams that they were now going to be playing much more. Anyway, Tulsa won the coin toss and elected to receive. VaTech kicked off an DB Jimmy Stewart returned it for a touchdown. Tulsa lead the entire game and won it of course. Stewart went on to play in the NFL.

Tulsa blocked an extra point after Navy scored a touchdown and defeated I believe a ranked and undefeated Navy team at that time. This was some years ago. The Washington Post covered the Navy/Tulsa game on the top half of its sports page. Maryland, Va Tech, and Virginia were at the bottom of the first page.

As a Tulsa fan, it seems TU has gotten lots more respect outside the state of Oklahoma than within it.

(01-17-2020 02:08 PM)Out West Wrote:  

(01-17-2020 01:54 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Thanks, OutWest.

But now we have a THIRD !!1! vote for Navy.

Clearly an infiltration of communist hippies...

The pageantry, the midshipmen, the fly overs....its just a great experience to watch a football game at Navy. The battle markers, Pearl Harbor, Guadacanal, Midway, Okinawa....it stirs the soul.

I have been to many visitors' stadiums. It is always a good time with the cheering, pep squad, bands, cheering, etc. But a game at Navy is different which I have not experienced elsewhere, not even in OU's stadium with 85,000 fans. There is pause and reflection at Navy....along with the fun.

Tulsa made the Washington Post front page another time when I watched TU @Va Tech. VaTech was going "big time", dropping VMI off their schedule and they had teams like Alabama, Tennessee now on the schedule. THis was also some time ago of course. As I walked in the stadium, the Tech fans were not talking about Tulsa. They were talking about the SEC teams that they were now going to be playing much more. Anyway, Tulsa won the coin toss and elected to receive. VaTech kicked off an DB Jimmy Stewart returned it for a touchdown. Tulsa lead the entire game and won it of course. Stewart went on to play in the NFL.

Tulsa blocked an extra point after Navy scored a touchdown and defeated I believe a ranked and undefeated Navy team at that time. This was some years ago. The Washington Post covered the Navy/Tulsa game on the top half of its sports page. Maryland, Va Tech, and Virginia were at the bottom of the first page.

As a Tulsa fan, it seems TU has gotten lots more respect outside the state of Oklahoma than within it.

Sounds like 2006?
That was Navy's first ever OT game. I was at a friend's wedding, saw the score and said "PJ must have gone for two in the overtime"

We do like our Washington Post coverage - still an assigned beat reporter - in addition to the local crab wrapper.

Glad you enjoyed it!

(01-17-2020 01:54 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Thanks, OutWest.

But now we have a THIRD !!1! vote for Navy.

Clearly an infiltration of communist hippies...

Time to bomb Philadelphia too.

(01-17-2020 02:41 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(01-17-2020 01:54 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Thanks, OutWest.

But now we have a THIRD !!1! vote for Navy.

Clearly an infiltration of communist hippies...

Time to bomb Philadelphia too.

Oooh, I don't think I can joke about bombing communes in Philly...still too soon...

(01-16-2020 05:46 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(01-16-2020 11:29 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(01-16-2020 11:13 AM)texoma Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 09:08 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 07:46 PM)texoma Wrote:  That 30,000 would be a veeeery rough figure indeed. It appears the East side and the West side are the same size except for the press box.

We've announced 30K several times. Boise State in 09. UCF + New Mexico the year before that. 29k+ against Houston in 2011.

Tulsa is notorious for inflating "announced" attendance figures and claiming the stadium seats 30,000. No way does that stadium seat anywhere near 30,000.

I have been to Tulsa games that had at most 6,000 or 7,000 fans and they announced 17,000. It happened several times last year.

I'm sure it did happen. That announced attendance is probably tickets sold, which would include season ticket holders that didn't come or ticket packages that were sold to businesses. That doesn't mean that when there's an actual sellout that the stadium doesn't hold 30K. That 30K number is actual a reduction from what it used to seat (35k+) when they took out the bleachers to the North of the field and replaced them with the Case building.

The stadium actually seated as many as 40K+ back in the 80's.... though it was mostly done with temporary bleachers that were rusting out.

Announced attendance is often tickets distributed. That means free tickets given away, tickets heavily discounted, admitted with a toy, veterans etc., and sometimes it appears to be a figment of someone's imagination or what sounds good.

When Tulsa removed the bleachers in the North end zone it reduced the capacity to 35,000. Several years later, they removed the bleachers on the upper West side, which contained 10,000 seats, per TU.


If your stadium seats 35,000 and you remove 10,000 seats, there is no way you have a 30,000 seat stadium. More like 25,000 seats.

They removed seats from the West side, but they added seats in vertically. They added the club level as well as a a number of suites and an enlarged press box. All that counts toward attendance. I don't agree that the west side renovation got rid of 10k seats. We've announced 30K before. They don't announce numbers that high unless we actually have that many people in attendance. I'm not necessarily saying they sold 30K tickets.... but there were certainly 30K people in the stadium.

Why would we have announced just under a sellout against Houston in 2011 (29,015) if we are willing to fudge the numbers so much. Why not just announced the sellout at 30K?

Also, if you look at pictures of the 5K north endzone that they took out, it's pretty sizeable. To have taken out 10K seats on the west side you would have had to take out the equivalent of two of those North endzone stands. We didn't take out that many on the west side.

(01-17-2020 12:32 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-17-2020 12:28 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(01-17-2020 12:24 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-17-2020 12:18 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Doogie, Helicopter, oasispirate, qwerty1, Stallion, Tomcat with the Tulane vote?!?

Ooohhh, out the other voters!

USFFan

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I presume that only admins can see who actually voted. I did that - it just shows the number of votes, not who the actual voters were.

USFFan

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(01-17-2020 04:17 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(01-16-2020 05:46 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(01-16-2020 11:29 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(01-16-2020 11:13 AM)texoma Wrote:  

(01-15-2020 09:08 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  We've announced 30K several times. Boise State in 09. UCF + New Mexico the year before that. 29k+ against Houston in 2011.

Tulsa is notorious for inflating "announced" attendance figures and claiming the stadium seats 30,000. No way does that stadium seat anywhere near 30,000.

I have been to Tulsa games that had at most 6,000 or 7,000 fans and they announced 17,000. It happened several times last year.

I'm sure it did happen. That announced attendance is probably tickets sold, which would include season ticket holders that didn't come or ticket packages that were sold to businesses. That doesn't mean that when there's an actual sellout that the stadium doesn't hold 30K. That 30K number is actual a reduction from what it used to seat (35k+) when they took out the bleachers to the North of the field and replaced them with the Case building.

The stadium actually seated as many as 40K+ back in the 80's.... though it was mostly done with temporary bleachers that were rusting out.

Announced attendance is often tickets distributed. That means free tickets given away, tickets heavily discounted, admitted with a toy, veterans etc., and sometimes it appears to be a figment of someone's imagination or what sounds good.

When Tulsa removed the bleachers in the North end zone it reduced the capacity to 35,000. Several years later, they removed the bleachers on the upper West side, which contained 10,000 seats, per TU.


If your stadium seats 35,000 and you remove 10,000 seats, there is no way you have a 30,000 seat stadium. More like 25,000 seats.

They removed seats from the West side, but they added seats in vertically. They added the club level as well as a a number of suites and an enlarged press box. All that counts toward attendance. I don't agree that the west side renovation got rid of 10k seats. We've announced 30K before. They don't announce numbers that high unless we actually have that many people in attendance. I'm not necessarily saying they sold 30K tickets.... but there were certainly 30K people in the stadium.

Why would we have announced just under a sellout against Houston in 2011 (29,015) if we are willing to fudge the numbers so much. Why not just announced the sellout at 30K?

Also, if you look at pictures of the 5K north endzone that they took out, it's pretty sizeable. To have taken out 10K seats on the west side you would have had to take out the equivalent of two of those North endzone stands. We didn't take out that many on the west side.

The stadium seated 20,000 fans before it was expanded in 1965. At that time, the field was lowered and 9 rows (2,000 seats) were added to each side of the stadium for an increase of 4,000 seats. The South end zone added 6,500 seats. You can easily verify those figures. That added 10,500 seats to bring the capacity to 30,500. The addition of the upper West stands added another 10,000 seats to bring the total capacity to 40,500. Those are facts.

To summarize:

-The upper West stands did contain 10,000 seats and removing them left about 25,000 seats .
-The club seats REDUCED the capacity. They replaced regular seats that took less room.
-The only seats they added vertically or the 9 rows explained above.
-They did add 500 suite seats, but this was more than offset by the additional chair back seats vs bench seats in the East and West stands
-The stadium now seats about 25,000 -- not 30,000.

You need to quit believing the hype. Just because they publicize that the stadium seats 30,000, does not mean it seats 30,000, which it doesn't, and quit believing the announced attendance figures. Those figures are meaningless. They announce whatever suits them best.

(01-18-2020 05:20 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(01-17-2020 04:17 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(01-16-2020 05:46 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(01-16-2020 11:29 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(01-16-2020 11:13 AM)texoma Wrote:  Tulsa is notorious for inflating "announced" attendance figures and claiming the stadium seats 30,000. No way does that stadium seat anywhere near 30,000.

I have been to Tulsa games that had at most 6,000 or 7,000 fans and they announced 17,000. It happened several times last year.

I'm sure it did happen. That announced attendance is probably tickets sold, which would include season ticket holders that didn't come or ticket packages that were sold to businesses. That doesn't mean that when there's an actual sellout that the stadium doesn't hold 30K. That 30K number is actual a reduction from what it used to seat (35k+) when they took out the bleachers to the North of the field and replaced them with the Case building.

The stadium actually seated as many as 40K+ back in the 80's.... though it was mostly done with temporary bleachers that were rusting out.

Announced attendance is often tickets distributed. That means free tickets given away, tickets heavily discounted, admitted with a toy, veterans etc., and sometimes it appears to be a figment of someone's imagination or what sounds good.

When Tulsa removed the bleachers in the North end zone it reduced the capacity to 35,000. Several years later, they removed the bleachers on the upper West side, which contained 10,000 seats, per TU.


If your stadium seats 35,000 and you remove 10,000 seats, there is no way you have a 30,000 seat stadium. More like 25,000 seats.

They removed seats from the West side, but they added seats in vertically. They added the club level as well as a a number of suites and an enlarged press box. All that counts toward attendance. I don't agree that the west side renovation got rid of 10k seats. We've announced 30K before. They don't announce numbers that high unless we actually have that many people in attendance. I'm not necessarily saying they sold 30K tickets.... but there were certainly 30K people in the stadium.

Why would we have announced just under a sellout against Houston in 2011 (29,015) if we are willing to fudge the numbers so much. Why not just announced the sellout at 30K?

Also, if you look at pictures of the 5K north endzone that they took out, it's pretty sizeable. To have taken out 10K seats on the west side you would have had to take out the equivalent of two of those North endzone stands. We didn't take out that many on the west side.

The stadium seated 20,000 fans before it was expanded in 1965. At that time, the field was lowered and 9 rows (2,000 seats) were added to each side of the stadium for an increase of 4,000 seats. The South end zone added 6,500 seats. You can easily verify those figures. That added 10,500 seats to bring the capacity to 30,500. The addition of the upper West stands added another 10,000 seats to bring the total capacity to 40,500. Those are facts.

To summarize:

-The upper West stands did contain 10,000 seats and removing them left about 25,000 seats .
-The club seats REDUCED the capacity. They replaced regular seats that took less room.
-The only seats they added vertically or the 9 rows explained above.
-They did add 500 suite seats, but this was more than offset by the additional chair back seats vs bench seats in the East and West stands
-The stadium now seats about 25,000 -- not 30,000.

You need to quit believing the hype. Just because they publicize that the stadium seats 30,000, does not mean it seats 30,000, which it doesn't, and quit believing the announced attendance figures. Those figures are meaningless. They announce whatever suits them best.

False. You keep repeating the premise that they removed 10k seats on the west side which isn’t true. For it to be true they would have needed to have gotten rid of 2x the size of the old north end zone on the upper west side alone and not have replaced that with anything.

(01-17-2020 11:36 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  And in the current days we still have a winning record in every sport but one against UCF.

You won’t be able to say that for very much longer

I have only been in three of the stadiums, UCF, UH, SMU. I enjoyed my time in all three, but the best of the three was UH. I have to say I am biased though. My wife had medical issues and traveled in a transport chair. UH has a section built in for special needs people and was able to take advantage of it.

After reading the post, I have to amend to say I did not travel with my wife to the UCF and SMU stadiums, but did not see a section where my wife would be able to sit without leaving the transport chair.

(01-18-2020 10:53 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(01-17-2020 11:36 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  And in the current days we still have a winning record in every sport but one against UCF.

You won’t be able to say that for very much longer

In most sports we’ll be able to say if for YEARS. You are well behind in most sports.