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What boosters can't do....
this is from the ASU site giving rules to boosters...

Provide transportation to a prospect or student-athlete or loan an automobile to a student-athlete host for a prospect’s use during an official paid visit.
Provide or cosign for a loan.
Allow the use of a telephone or other personal property (e.g., boat, home, car, computer, iPad).
Give cash or allow the use of a credit card.
Provide free or reduced cost entertainment, services, or products.
Provide free or reduced cost lodging.
Provide academic assistance.
Give a gift of any kind for any reason, including birthdays and holidays.
Purchase items or services from prospects, student-athletes, or their relatives at inflated prices.

Engage in any recruiting activities.
Host a meal for a prospect.
Contact a prospect through social media.
Arrange for or finance a prospect’s unofficial visit to ASU.

https://sundevilcompliance.asu.edu/fans-...%80%99t-do


Some of that is crazy..

Everytime someone shares/likes/retweets/replies/etc to a recruit on social media, you are effectively making that kid inelible.

If a kid comes up to you at the Wolfchase and says "Excuse me sir, could I borrow your phone to call my mother to ask her to come pick us up? My phone died."

you better say no... he might be a future recruit.
11-13-2019 08:08 PM
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RE: What boosters can't do....
From the ASU website...
WHO is a booster?

An ASU booster is any person or entity who has participated in promoting ASU’s athletics interests, made financial contributions to Sun Devil Athletics or any other ASU athletics booster club, assisted in the recruitment of prospects, provided financial assistance to current student-athletes or their families, or otherwise helped promote Sun Devil Athletics. Once a person or entity becomes a booster, that person or entity remains a booster indefinitely.

Common examples of ASU boosters include:

ASU students;
ASU employees;
ASU alumni;
ASU donors; and
ASU ticket holders.
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RE: What boosters can't do....
WHO is a prospective student athlete (also from ASU site).

Under NCAA legislation, a prospective student-athlete is anyone who:

Is in the ninth through twelfth grades of high school;
Has not yet started the ninth grade, but has received financial assistance or other benefits from ASU;
Is enrolled at a two-year college; or
Is a student-athlete from a four-year college who has entered the transfer portal.
Note that while some communications, contacts, and publicity restrictions are lifted after a prospective student-athlete signs a National Letter of Intent with ASU, the signee remains a prospective student-athlete until he or she becomes a student-athlete.
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WHAT is an impermissible benefit?

NCAA legislation specifically defines and categorizes different types of impermissible benefits (e.g., extra benefits, recruiting inducements, and preferential treatment). Regardless of the type of impermissible benefit, however, the prohibition is generally the same: under most circumstances, prospective and enrolled student-athletes (along with their friends and families) cannot receive goods or services based on their status as athletes. The following are categories of benefits that NCAA legislation prohibits boosters and other athletics stakeholders from providing:

Cash and cost-free goods and services;
Special discounts, payment arrangements, or credit options for products or services if the same are not available to all ASU students;
Preferential treatment, benefits, or services based on a student-athlete’s athletics reputation, skill, or pay-back potential as a future professional athlete;
Payment for work not performed or at unreasonable levels; and
The purchase of items or services from student-athletes or their relatives at inflated prices.
Prospective and enrolled student-athletes who receive such benefits jeopardize their eligibility to compete in intercollegiate athletics. Additionally, ASU may face institutional penalties if an ASU booster provides impermissible benefits to prospectice or enrolled student-athletes.

Boosters who provide impermissible benefits to prospective student-athletes or student-athletes may be subject to disciplinary measures such as loss of booster benefits or dissociation from ASU.
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RE: What boosters can't do....
Regardless of who they are it's stupid and needs to be done away with.
11-13-2019 08:20 PM
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RE: What boosters can't do....
Speed limit is 55 mph for every non-emergency vehicle traveling on I-240. They could ticket the majority of them, they could let them all slide, or they could ticket just one. It's at the discretion of law enforcement. It's similar to the type of over-the-top NCAA regulation ASU is describing. Usually, they seem to do it either to make an example or just to get their jollies, but you can't make either one of them do it in a fair and equitable manner. They don't have to.
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RE: What boosters can't do....
$ 11,500 is akin to 110 on the express way.
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RE: What boosters can't do....
Donate to Kentucky.

Send gift cards as Christmas gifts to all their recruits from Santa.

Confess your relationship. Turn over the tracking of the shipment and activity of gift card.
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(11-13-2019 08:34 PM)griffin Wrote:  $ 11,500 is akin to 110 on the express way.

For moving expenses? More like going 5 under the limit.
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RE: What boosters can't do....
(11-13-2019 08:34 PM)griffin Wrote:  $ 11,500 is akin to 110 on the express way.

That is a drop in the hat compared to a lot of cases. What was Albert Means again? In the hundreds of thousands wasnt it? Cam Newton was pretty big as well.
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(11-13-2019 08:36 PM)John44932 Wrote:  
(11-13-2019 08:34 PM)griffin Wrote:  $ 11,500 is akin to 110 on the express way.

For moving expenses? More like going 5 under the limit.

Yeah, seems the down payment on the new house was part of the expense.
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(11-13-2019 08:37 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(11-13-2019 08:36 PM)John44932 Wrote:  
(11-13-2019 08:34 PM)griffin Wrote:  $ 11,500 is akin to 110 on the express way.

For moving expenses? More like going 5 under the limit.

Yeah, seems the down payment on the new house was part of the expense.

I used to work in the relocation industry. $11k is a very average amount.
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(11-13-2019 11:35 PM)John44932 Wrote:  
(11-13-2019 08:37 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(11-13-2019 08:36 PM)John44932 Wrote:  
(11-13-2019 08:34 PM)griffin Wrote:  $ 11,500 is akin to 110 on the express way.

For moving expenses? More like going 5 under the limit.

Yeah, seems the down payment on the new house was part of the expense.

I used to work in the relocation industry. $11k is a very average amount.

Sounds like they should have hired 2 men and a truck.
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RE: What boosters can't do....
WTF do I care about who ASU considers a booster?
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(11-14-2019 12:18 AM)former guest Wrote:  WTF do I care about who ASU considers a booster?

Sorry you dont see the connection.. I can see how it could be confusing to some.
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RE: What boosters can't do....
So a one time donation to the university is a booster? Giving 11,500 dollars to a family to move to Memphis when he isn’t a coach to the university? Can anyone predict the future? Oh wait, I guess the NCAA is the only one that saw the future of all of the events that was coming, right? Their crystal ball predicted that Penny would be the head coach, and gave the family a little chunk change, to move, and Wiseman would commit to Memphis. Who knows, maybe someday I’ll run into one of your sons/daughters and give them 10 dollars, then become the head coach at Memphis, and then recruit yours. I guess it will reported across the nation after I did that. I wonder what the NCAA would to to me, or your child for 10 dollars?????
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(11-13-2019 08:34 PM)griffin Wrote:  $ 11,500 is akin to 110 on the express way.

If we're sticking to the speeding on the expressway analogy that's more like going 9 over and skating past every single cop on I-240. If it was $115,000 you'd be correct.
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RE: What boosters can't do....
a better analogy would be the governor and the head of the state police sent you a letter allowing you to speedup to 10 mph over the speed limit in certain circumstances and Barney Fife pulling you over for for going 62 in a 55 then the governor and state police siding with deputy - signing on to take away your license.
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(11-14-2019 08:38 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  a better analogy would be the governor and the head of the state police sent you a letter allowing you to speedup to 10 mph over the speed limit in certain circumstances and Barney Fife pulling you over for for going 62 in a 55 then the governor and state police siding with deputy - signing on to take away your license.

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(11-13-2019 08:34 PM)griffin Wrote:  $ 11,500 is akin to 110 on the express way.

Nah. That’s a drop in he bucket in comparison to what some of these star prospects get. Maybe 75 in a 65.
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