(11-11-2019 04:33 PM)bariggins98 Wrote:  

(11-10-2019 01:18 AM)halo27legend Wrote:  There has been a ton of sports writers/journalists from around the country that have voiced their support for Memphis and Wiseman. Why not that arrogant tool bag GP?

GP has stated the facts. By the NCAA definition, Penny was a booster. GP has also stated that he thinks the current NCAA rules and definitions are antiquated and stupid.

Like it or not, this was an NCAA rule that everyone, including every person that donates to TSF, Rebounders, or H100 is informed of.

Did he give the money to get the kid to Memphis? No. Does it change the fact that he provided an impermissible benefit as a booster as defined by the current by laws of the NCAA? No.

What deems the benefit as "impermissible"

(11-11-2019 05:32 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 04:33 PM)bariggins98 Wrote:  

(11-10-2019 01:18 AM)halo27legend Wrote:  There has been a ton of sports writers/journalists from around the country that have voiced their support for Memphis and Wiseman. Why not that arrogant tool bag GP?

GP has stated the facts. By the NCAA definition, Penny was a booster. GP has also stated that he thinks the current NCAA rules and definitions are antiquated and stupid.

Like it or not, this was an NCAA rule that everyone, including every person that donates to TSF, Rebounders, or H100 is informed of.

Did he give the money to get the kid to Memphis? No. Does it change the fact that he provided an impermissible benefit as a booster as defined by the current by laws of the NCAA? No.

Are you Gary Parrish???? Lol

There’s a lot of ambiguity with the definition of a booster as concerning this ‘specific’ person in Penny Hardaway and this specific case.

There may be a lot of ambiguity with the definition but that doesn’t change the current facts. Gary stated current fact, I’m sure if the NCAA decided Penny was no longer a booster Gary would happily bloviate about that instead.

An issue I am having with Gary is for some reason he isnt mentioning the breach of contract part at all. The fact they ruled him eligible twice then decided to change it, is where the case hinges. Instead he keeps talking about the aspects that probably won't make a difference. He is only showing the negative sides of the case, and no doubt that is 100% intentional. I am not against Gary, but he is turning me that way, right now.

(11-11-2019 05:45 PM)King-Dork Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 05:32 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 04:33 PM)bariggins98 Wrote:  

(11-10-2019 01:18 AM)halo27legend Wrote:  There has been a ton of sports writers/journalists from around the country that have voiced their support for Memphis and Wiseman. Why not that arrogant tool bag GP?

GP has stated the facts. By the NCAA definition, Penny was a booster. GP has also stated that he thinks the current NCAA rules and definitions are antiquated and stupid.

Like it or not, this was an NCAA rule that everyone, including every person that donates to TSF, Rebounders, or H100 is informed of.

Did he give the money to get the kid to Memphis? No. Does it change the fact that he provided an impermissible benefit as a booster as defined by the current by laws of the NCAA? No.

Are you Gary Parrish???? Lol

There’s a lot of ambiguity with the definition of a booster as concerning this ‘specific’ person in Penny Hardaway and this specific case.

There may be a lot of ambiguity with the definition but that doesn’t change the current facts.

What does this even mean?

(11-11-2019 05:57 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  An issue I am having with Gary is for some reason he isnt mentioning the breach of contract part at all. The fact they ruled him eligible twice then decided to change it, is where the case hinges. Instead he keeps talking about the aspects that probably won't make a difference. He is only showing the negative sides of the case, and no doubt that is 100% intentional. I am not against Gary, but he is turning me that way, right now.

Give him a few days and he will focus on that and act like he came up with it all on his own.

(11-11-2019 05:57 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  An issue I am having with Gary is for some reason he isnt mentioning the breach of contract part at all. The fact they ruled him eligible twice then decided to change it, is where the case hinges. Instead he keeps talking about the aspects that probably won't make a difference. He is only showing the negative sides of the case, and no doubt that is 100% intentional. I am not against Gary, but he is turning me that way, right now.

This is who Gary is. I’ve listen to everybody today but Gary and I refuse to listen to Gary in any aspect to this, not necessarily because I don’t what to hear negativity in this situation but because that’s his schtick

GP seems like a nerdy little prick who got made fun of and beat up a lot as a kid. Probably why he thinks Memphis should bow down to the bully

(11-11-2019 04:22 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 03:33 PM)scorpius Wrote:  Keep in mind that the university itself admitted that there was a "deeper" investigation into this issue AFTER the original May eligibility ruling. My guess as to what happened is that Penny revealed the 2017 payment to the NCAA prior to the May ruling but might have withheld it from the university administration? Then Wiseman was cleared to play. Shortly thereafter (probably due to a whistleblower somewhere), the NCAA came back with a second statement saying he was cleared in error but they'd honor the original decision. It was at that point the university may have learned of the payment from what it sounds like to me from their public statement. That's when the university (with help from the NCAA) started it's "deeper" investigation according to that public statement. It's explains why Penny might not have played Wiseman in the Bahamas or the exhibition games. And it explains how GP might have got tipped off weeks ahead of time. Penny probably expected there might be another ruling coming down and was probably relieved to not hear anything before the first game (thus clearing Wiseman to play), only to be let down to see the letter in the mailbox from the NCAA waiting for him after the game. That's when Penny told Wiseman he was going to sit unless he got an attorney. Wouldn't surprise me if Penny had told Wiseman well before the Bahama's trip that this might happen and to start looking for one.

How would you report it to the NCAA & the UofM not have knowledge of it? Would the school's compliance officer not be the one to report it?

I really don't know. But given all the facts we know so far, the above scenario seems to make the most sense. It's also the scenario that Gary came up with during his podcast yesterday. He had this big theory about Penny not disclosing this payment to the university when he was hired. But trying to mesh the university's public statement to what Wiseman's lawyer said, along with the other facts surrounding the case, it does make sense.

(11-11-2019 05:43 PM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 05:42 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 04:33 PM)bariggins98 Wrote:  GP has stated the facts. By the NCAA definition, Penny was a booster.

GP high-fived Pat Forde when Chalmers hit his shot. Parrish can take a hike.

WHAT??

Several people witnessed it. A couple of years ago, people on MTO challenged Easterwood to ask him about it in his show and he did. Parrish laughed and didn’t deny it. He said “if I did” he was drunk and doesn’t really remember.

Just don't like Parrish. Worse than that, I don't care what he says.

(11-11-2019 06:22 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  GP seems like a nerdy little prick who got made fun of and beat up a lot as a kid. Probably why he thinks Memphis should bow down to the bully

He mentioned on the show the other day he shaves his arm pits.

(11-11-2019 06:47 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 05:43 PM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 05:42 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 04:33 PM)bariggins98 Wrote:  GP has stated the facts. By the NCAA definition, Penny was a booster.

GP high-fived Pat Forde when Chalmers hit his shot. Parrish can take a hike.

WHAT??

Several people witnessed it. A couple of years ago, people on MTO challenged Easterwood to ask him about it in his show and he did. Parrish laughed and didn’t deny it. He said “if I did” he was drunk and doesn’t really remember.

Oh, and he also tried to mitigate it by saying it would have been more out of his disdain for Cal. Sorry, doesn’t work that way.

(11-11-2019 03:33 PM)scorpius Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 09:57 AM)mthom Wrote:  GP ended up being right on Wiseman's eligibility but it was purely luck. Based on the timeline of events, when GP was insinuating that Wiseman might have eligibility issues, Memphis hadn't received any notification from the NCAA since May when they said he was eligible initially. Wiseman sat in the Bahamas and in the exhibition games due to injury, not due to NCAA issues. But since GP got lucky, he can continue his smartest guy in the room routine.

Keep in mind that the university itself admitted that there was a "deeper" investigation into this issue AFTER the original May eligibility ruling. My guess as to what happened is that Penny revealed the 2017 payment to the NCAA prior to the May ruling but might have withheld it from the university administration? Then Wiseman was cleared to play. Shortly thereafter (probably due to a whistleblower somewhere), the NCAA came back with a second statement saying he was cleared in error but they'd honor the original decision. It was at that point the university may have learned of the payment from what it sounds like to me from their public statement. That's when the university (with help from the NCAA) started it's "deeper" investigation according to that public statement. It's explains why Penny might not have played Wiseman in the Bahamas or the exhibition games. And it explains how GP might have got tipped off weeks ahead of time. Penny probably expected there might be another ruling coming down and was probably relieved to not hear anything before the first game (thus clearing Wiseman to play), only to be let down to see the letter in the mailbox from the NCAA waiting for him after the game. That's when Penny told Wiseman he was going to sit unless he got an attorney. Wouldn't surprise me if Penny had told Wiseman well before the Bahama's trip that this might happen and to start looking for one.

Dude, do you write for Ancient Aliens?

He said on his show that Penny paid Wiseman's mom that money because he knew he had a great shot at being the coach at Memphis. That is not a fact. That is an assumption. I don't agree with that. He is a national guy. That gets heard all over. He goes on a rant today about his love for Memphis but lets be honest if he gave a flip he wouldn't put that out there.

(11-11-2019 06:55 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 06:22 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  GP seems like a nerdy little prick who got made fun of and beat up a lot as a kid. Probably why he thinks Memphis should bow down to the bully

He mentioned on the show the other day he shaves his arm pits.

Also that he called AAA to change his flat tire

And that he has a difficult time figuring out the self-checkouts at the grocery store

(11-11-2019 08:29 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 06:55 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 06:22 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  GP seems like a nerdy little prick who got made fun of and beat up a lot as a kid. Probably why he thinks Memphis should bow down to the bully

He mentioned on the show the other day he shaves his arm pits.

Also that he called AAA to change his flat tire

And that he has a difficult time figuring out the self-checkouts at the grocery store

Yeah he did

(11-11-2019 08:26 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  He said on his show that Penny paid Wiseman's mom that money because he knew he had a great shot at being the coach at Memphis. That is not a fact. That is an assumption. I don't agree with that. He is a national guy. That gets heard all over. He goes on a rant today about his love for Memphis but lets be honest if he gave a flip he wouldn't put that out there.

He has no loyalty but to himself and I don’t mean that he has to stick up for Memphis as a journalist but that he will say anything that brings more attention and promotion to himself.

(11-10-2019 01:18 AM)halo27legend Wrote:  There has been a ton of sports writers/journalists from around the country that have voiced their support for Memphis and Wiseman. Why not that arrogant tool bag GP?

Look, little useless schmucks like GP make their living off of the establishment, the established order. They ARE the establishment.

People who are in favor of establishment are always, ALWAYS in favor of CONTROLLING OTHERS. This IS their religion.
As long a the NCAA can keeping doing what they've been doing, the established pecking order stays intact.

You blow it up and suddenly vastly more people get access to what only a powerful few were able to own and control. More "other" people get to have a loud say rather than the established and powerful few.

With the NCAA around and in power, it affords little nothings like GP the opportunity to scandalize programs "in violation of NCAA rules".

And quite frankly it gives him an opportunity to call UofM, Penny, and Rudd "Stupid". Because that is what he was saying in his opinion of playing Wiseman. Saying "major, major violations" is a dog whistle for saying Penny is a dumb, arrogant, black, NBA-jock coach.

It takes a special kind of prick attitude to be a "journalist" (whatever that means).
You must be predisposed to:
believe youre always the smartest guy in the room
believe everyone is beneath you
believe only you possess true objectivity
believe any criticism of you is based in stupidity or bias
believe you are a martyr/victim/persecuted for your truth and integrity
believe the people you deliver information to are too stupid to really understand it (and aren't they lucky to have you to explain things!)
believe it's the other guy's problem if you kiss their ass and stab them in the back at the same time
believe the most important thing about any topic is you.

(11-10-2019 10:31 AM)truest blue tiger Wrote:  Honestly for me the story that Mark Gianotto wrote that appeared in the USA today bugs me more than GP, I've just never personally cared for Gianotto and his takes, but these are my personal observations.

He is a crappy writer with horrible takes.

Basically anti-Memphis everything.

the CAs personal henchman

#patheticnewsrag

(11-11-2019 08:16 PM)cmt Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 03:33 PM)scorpius Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 09:57 AM)mthom Wrote:  GP ended up being right on Wiseman's eligibility but it was purely luck. Based on the timeline of events, when GP was insinuating that Wiseman might have eligibility issues, Memphis hadn't received any notification from the NCAA since May when they said he was eligible initially. Wiseman sat in the Bahamas and in the exhibition games due to injury, not due to NCAA issues. But since GP got lucky, he can continue his smartest guy in the room routine.

Keep in mind that the university itself admitted that there was a "deeper" investigation into this issue AFTER the original May eligibility ruling. My guess as to what happened is that Penny revealed the 2017 payment to the NCAA prior to the May ruling but might have withheld it from the university administration? Then Wiseman was cleared to play. Shortly thereafter (probably due to a whistleblower somewhere), the NCAA came back with a second statement saying he was cleared in error but they'd honor the original decision. It was at that point the university may have learned of the payment from what it sounds like to me from their public statement. That's when the university (with help from the NCAA) started it's "deeper" investigation according to that public statement. It's explains why Penny might not have played Wiseman in the Bahamas or the exhibition games. And it explains how GP might have got tipped off weeks ahead of time. Penny probably expected there might be another ruling coming down and was probably relieved to not hear anything before the first game (thus clearing Wiseman to play), only to be let down to see the letter in the mailbox from the NCAA waiting for him after the game. That's when Penny told Wiseman he was going to sit unless he got an attorney. Wouldn't surprise me if Penny had told Wiseman well before the Bahama's trip that this might happen and to start looking for one.

Dude, do you write for Ancient Aliens?

This is not "Ancient Aliens". If you read what the university and Wiseman's lawyer has said publicly, you get a timeline as I laid out above. Also what concerns me is that the lawyer is very vague about that second "Notice of Inquiry". He makes sure to mention dates on the other letters, but does not give a date for that one. Nor does he specifically mention the wording of it, which begs the question of how strong the promise was in this letter to maintain Wiseman's eligibility. It doesn't even look like the letter itself was presented in court other than the vague mention in the court document. And this is incredible being that this is probably the strongest part of our case.