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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
(11-11-2019 08:04 AM)Hoots Wrote: (11-11-2019 03:51 AM)memtigbb Wrote: If Memphis as a defendant, refused to play him and just sat him on the bench, they would open themselves up to a lawsuit. They would have to justify to the court, not the NCAA, why they did not play their best player and number 1 recruit.
And this is where it gets sticky. Because if they DO play him they risk vacating victories. So many moving parts in this mess. I just hate the fact that Penny, the school and the players will hear noise from it, and the reputation will take another hit.
If the TRO gets converted to an injunction, then it is unlikely that the NCAA can come back and vacate those games. The difference between a TRO and the injunction is that the TRO is almost always granted, and usually only one side (plaintiff) is present. So you ccould get a TRO that said he was eligible, when the facts didnt support it, and the NCAA can come back at you for that. But the way the by-law reads, thats not true of an injunction, just a TRO. With the injunction, both sides are present at the hearing, and the injunction is based on more solid foundation.
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tigersgrizzfan
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
people need to understand something about GP
He is astonishingly good at his job. And he's well connected. If he wants to find out something he will get to the bottom of it..
BUT.....
GP is a weapons grade TROLL...He feeds on being able to tell you i told you so. He gets off on it. You could hear the enjoyment in his voice right through the radio when he came on to talk about this situation.
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
GP is a snitch. He knew what was going on before it happened.
Someone forced the NCAA's hand, and just expected Memphis to back down.
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
(11-11-2019 11:04 AM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote: people need to understand something about GP
He is astonishingly good at his job. And he's well connected. If he wants to find out something he will get to the bottom of it..
BUT.....
GP is a weapons grade TROLL...He feeds on being able to tell you i told you so. He gets off on it. You could hear the enjoyment in his voice right through the radio when he came on to talk about this situation.
This is correct. Gary is about Gary only. Was true when he led the revolt against Tubby. Is true now.
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
(11-11-2019 11:04 AM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote: people need to understand something about GP
He is astonishingly good at his job. And he's well connected. If he wants to find out something he will get to the bottom of it..
BUT.....
GP is a weapons grade TROLL...He feeds on being able to tell you i told you so. He gets off on it. You could hear the enjoyment in his voice right through the radio when he came on to talk about this situation.
I think we understand more than you know.
Basically you are saying he uses his clout and connections to make a big giant shitpot...then he stirs it up because he loves to be up to his armpits in it.. Huh. That must be why he shaves them then.
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
(11-11-2019 11:48 AM)snowtiger Wrote: (11-11-2019 11:04 AM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote: people need to understand something about GP
He is astonishingly good at his job. And he's well connected. If he wants to find out something he will get to the bottom of it..
BUT.....
GP is a weapons grade TROLL...He feeds on being able to tell you i told you so. He gets off on it. You could hear the enjoyment in his voice right through the radio when he came on to talk about this situation.
I think we understand more than you know.
Basically you are saying he uses his clout and connections to make a big giant shitpot...then he stirs it up because he loves to be up to his armpits in it.. Huh. That must be why he shaves them then.
then he throws said shitpot in everyone's face LOL
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
(11-11-2019 09:57 AM)mthom Wrote: GP ended up being right on Wiseman's eligibility but it was purely luck. Based on the timeline of events, when GP was insinuating that Wiseman might have eligibility issues, Memphis hadn't received any notification from the NCAA since May when they said he was eligible initially. Wiseman sat in the Bahamas and in the exhibition games due to injury, not due to NCAA issues. But since GP got lucky, he can continue his smartest guy in the room routine.
Keep in mind that the university itself admitted that there was a "deeper" investigation into this issue AFTER the original May eligibility ruling. My guess as to what happened is that Penny revealed the 2017 payment to the NCAA prior to the May ruling but might have withheld it from the university administration? Then Wiseman was cleared to play. Shortly thereafter (probably due to a whistleblower somewhere), the NCAA came back with a second statement saying he was cleared in error but they'd honor the original decision. It was at that point the university may have learned of the payment from what it sounds like to me from their public statement. That's when the university (with help from the NCAA) started it's "deeper" investigation according to that public statement. It's explains why Penny might not have played Wiseman in the Bahamas or the exhibition games. And it explains how GP might have got tipped off weeks ahead of time. Penny probably expected there might be another ruling coming down and was probably relieved to not hear anything before the first game (thus clearing Wiseman to play), only to be let down to see the letter in the mailbox from the NCAA waiting for him after the game. That's when Penny told Wiseman he was going to sit unless he got an attorney. Wouldn't surprise me if Penny had told Wiseman well before the Bahama's trip that this might happen and to start looking for one.
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
(11-11-2019 10:24 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote: (11-11-2019 10:15 AM)tigersroll Wrote: (11-11-2019 09:57 AM)mthom Wrote: GP ended up being right on Wiseman's eligibility but it was purely luck. Based on the timeline of events, when GP was insinuating that Wiseman might have eligibility issues, Memphis hadn't received any notification from the NCAA since May when they said he was eligible initially. Wiseman sat in the Bahamas and in the exhibition games due to injury, not due to NCAA issues. But since GP got lucky, he can continue his smartest guy in the room routine.
GP was not "lucky". He knew something based on information he either got from someone or information he provided. That is my take.
Think about it.
Wiseman lawyer just said in the radio they learn of this and received the notice this past Thursday. Parrish threw that out way before that. So if Parrish knew something legit then he got it ahead of the lawyers and that mean he got it from the NCAA or Calipari
(11-11-2019 10:29 AM)tigersroll Wrote: (11-11-2019 10:24 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote: (11-11-2019 10:15 AM)tigersroll Wrote: (11-11-2019 09:57 AM)mthom Wrote: GP ended up being right on Wiseman's eligibility but it was purely luck. Based on the timeline of events, when GP was insinuating that Wiseman might have eligibility issues, Memphis hadn't received any notification from the NCAA since May when they said he was eligible initially. Wiseman sat in the Bahamas and in the exhibition games due to injury, not due to NCAA issues. But since GP got lucky, he can continue his smartest guy in the room routine.
GP was not "lucky". He knew something based on information he either got from someone or information he provided. That is my take.
Think about it.
Wiseman lawyer just said in the radio they learn of this and received the notice this past Thursday. Parrish threw that out way before that. So if Parrish knew something legit then he got it ahead of the lawyers and that mean he got it from the NCAA or Calipari
He knew something was headed the UofM's way ahead of time which is why he went to the university to ask if he was eligible. When the university stated that he had been cleared since May, that was contrary to the information Parrish knew was either there at the time or was yet to come.
(11-11-2019 11:25 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: GP is a snitch. He knew what was going on before it happened.
Someone forced the NCAA's hand, and just expected Memphis to back down.
There seems to be a subpoena is GP's future!!!!! SH!TS GETTIN REAL!!!!!!
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
(11-11-2019 03:33 PM)scorpius Wrote: Keep in mind that the university itself admitted that there was a "deeper" investigation into this issue AFTER the original May eligibility ruling. My guess as to what happened is that Penny revealed the 2017 payment to the NCAA prior to the May ruling but might have withheld it from the university administration? Then Wiseman was cleared to play. Shortly thereafter (probably due to a whistleblower somewhere), the NCAA came back with a second statement saying he was cleared in error but they'd honor the original decision. It was at that point the university may have learned of the payment from what it sounds like to me from their public statement. That's when the university (with help from the NCAA) started it's "deeper" investigation according to that public statement. It's explains why Penny might not have played Wiseman in the Bahamas or the exhibition games. And it explains how GP might have got tipped off weeks ahead of time. Penny probably expected there might be another ruling coming down and was probably relieved to not hear anything before the first game (thus clearing Wiseman to play), only to be let down to see the letter in the mailbox from the NCAA waiting for him after the game. That's when Penny told Wiseman he was going to sit unless he got an attorney. Wouldn't surprise me if Penny had told Wiseman well before the Bahama's trip that this might happen and to start looking for one.
How would you report it to the NCAA & the UofM not have knowledge of it? Would the school's compliance officer not be the one to report it?
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
(11-10-2019 01:18 AM)halo27legend Wrote: There has been a ton of sports writers/journalists from around the country that have voiced their support for Memphis and Wiseman. Why not that arrogant tool bag GP?
GP has stated the facts. By the NCAA definition, Penny was a booster. GP has also stated that he thinks the current NCAA rules and definitions are antiquated and stupid.
Like it or not, this was an NCAA rule that everyone, including every person that donates to TSF, Rebounders, or H100 is informed of.
Did he give the money to get the kid to Memphis? No. Does it change the fact that he provided an impermissible benefit as a booster as defined by the current by laws of the NCAA? No.
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
welp the "i told you so's are flying"
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
(11-11-2019 04:33 PM)bariggins98 Wrote: (11-10-2019 01:18 AM)halo27legend Wrote: There has been a ton of sports writers/journalists from around the country that have voiced their support for Memphis and Wiseman. Why not that arrogant tool bag GP?
GP has stated the facts. By the NCAA definition, Penny was a booster. GP has also stated that he thinks the current NCAA rules and definitions are antiquated and stupid.
Like it or not, this was an NCAA rule that everyone, including every person that donates to TSF, Rebounders, or H100 is informed of.
Did he give the money to get the kid to Memphis? No. Does it change the fact that he provided an impermissible benefit as a booster as defined by the current by laws of the NCAA? No.
A rule that obviously doesn't apply to Michael Oher & his benefactors - and any number of other similar situations.
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
When Parrish was throwing shiiit against the wall, Wiseman was eligible.
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
He thanks there are 250 of us here. Hahaha. There’s only about 12 people left.
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
Jay Bilas is rooting for us?!??
Do we like Jay now?
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
(11-11-2019 04:33 PM)bariggins98 Wrote: (11-10-2019 01:18 AM)halo27legend Wrote: There has been a ton of sports writers/journalists from around the country that have voiced their support for Memphis and Wiseman. Why not that arrogant tool bag GP?
GP has stated the facts. By the NCAA definition, Penny was a booster. GP has also stated that he thinks the current NCAA rules and definitions are antiquated and stupid.
Like it or not, this was an NCAA rule that everyone, including every person that donates to TSF, Rebounders, or H100 is informed of.
Did he give the money to get the kid to Memphis? No. Does it change the fact that he provided an impermissible benefit as a booster as defined by the current by laws of the NCAA? No.
Are you Gary Parrish???? Lol
There’s a lot of ambiguity with the definition of a booster as concerning this ‘specific’ person in Penny Hardaway and this specific case.
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
(11-11-2019 05:31 PM)Seabee TIger Fan Wrote: Jay Bilas is rooting for us?!??
Do we like Jay now?
enemy of my enemy
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
(11-11-2019 04:33 PM)bariggins98 Wrote: GP has stated the facts. By the NCAA definition, Penny was a booster.
GP high-fived Pat Forde when Chalmers hit his shot. Parrish can take a hike.
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RE: Why not Gary Parrish?
(11-11-2019 05:42 PM)Johnny Betts Wrote: (11-11-2019 04:33 PM)bariggins98 Wrote: GP has stated the facts. By the NCAA definition, Penny was a booster.
GP high-fived Pat Forde when Chalmers hit his shot. Parrish can take a hike.
WHAT??
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