There have been major pivotal points in history where it takes a true stand to change the trajectory....

This can be a seriously defining moment in the history of sports.

If the NCAA does what the majority thinks it will do and upholds "changing its mind" YET AGAIN... the State, City, university, Penny, and Wiseman should all tell them to pound sand. No matter what they threaten, play the kid and win... win by as many as humanly possible. Turn the entire country on the clown show that is the NCAA. Make them physically pull him off of the floor.

This is a Jessie Owens @ the 36 Olympics moment.

This is a Texas Western vs UK in 66 moment.

Play and win

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

(11-09-2019 08:41 PM)maximus Wrote:  There have been major pivotal points in history where it takes a true stand to change the trajectory....

This can be a seriously defining moment in the history of sports.

If the NCAA does what the majority thinks it will do and upholds "changing its mind" YET AGAIN... the State, City, university, Penny, and Wiseman should all tell them to pound sand. No matter what they threaten, play the kid and win... win by as many as humanly possible. Turn the entire country on the clown show that is the NCAA. Make them physically pull him off of the floor.

This is a Jessie Owens @ the 36 Olympics moment.

This is a Texas Western vs UK in 66 moment.

Play and win

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

So if I am Houston ranked top 20 in the Nation and I have to travel to Memphis to play a better Memphis team who the NCAA team says is playing illegal players.

Why would I show up. Memphis will not be included in the conference or NCAA tournaments so playing them in a game that will definitely end in a forfeit for Memphis makes no sense...Why would they take the risk.

(11-09-2019 08:47 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:41 PM)maximus Wrote:  There have been major pivotal points in history where it takes a true stand to change the trajectory....

This can be a seriously defining moment in the history of sports.

If the NCAA does what the majority thinks it will do and upholds "changing its mind" YET AGAIN... the State, City, university, Penny, and Wiseman should all tell them to pound sand. No matter what they threaten, play the kid and win... win by as many as humanly possible. Turn the entire country on the clown show that is the NCAA. Make them physically pull him off of the floor.

This is a Jessie Owens @ the 36 Olympics moment.

This is a Texas Western vs UK in 66 moment.

Play and win

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

So if I am Houston ranked top 20 in the Nation and I have to travel to Memphis to play a better Memphis team who the NCAA team says is playing illegal players.

Why would I show up. Memphis will not be included in the conference or NCAA tournaments so playing them in a game that will definitely end in a forfeit for Memphis makes no sense...Why would they take the risk.

This is going to be a PR battle as much as a legal battle. We should concentrate on burying them in the PR battle which includes winning over opposing players and universities... especially in our conference.

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

If they kick us out of the NCAA (which they won’t); play in FIFA where we have sports they do!

(11-09-2019 08:41 PM)maximus Wrote:  There have been major pivotal points in history where it takes a true stand to change the trajectory....

This can be a seriously defining moment in the history of sports.

If the NCAA does what the majority thinks it will do and upholds "changing its mind" YET AGAIN... the State, City, university, Penny, and Wiseman should all tell them to pound sand. No matter what they threaten, play the kid and win... win by as many as humanly possible. Turn the entire country on the clown show that is the NCAA. Make them physically pull him off of the floor.

This is a Jessie Owens @ the 36 Olympics moment.

This is a Texas Western vs UK in 66 moment.

Play and win

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

Yes thanks to that effort, Texas Western now has a thriving athletic program and UK is relegated to the dustbin of history. (in my dreams) Life's not fair, or, at least the NCAA part of it isn't.

(11-09-2019 08:47 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:41 PM)maximus Wrote:  There have been major pivotal points in history where it takes a true stand to change the trajectory....

This can be a seriously defining moment in the history of sports.

If the NCAA does what the majority thinks it will do and upholds "changing its mind" YET AGAIN... the State, City, university, Penny, and Wiseman should all tell them to pound sand. No matter what they threaten, play the kid and win... win by as many as humanly possible. Turn the entire country on the clown show that is the NCAA. Make them physically pull him off of the floor.

This is a Jessie Owens @ the 36 Olympics moment.

This is a Texas Western vs UK in 66 moment.

Play and win

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

So if I am Houston ranked top 20 in the Nation and I have to travel to Memphis to play a better Memphis team who the NCAA team says is playing illegal players.

Why would I show up. Memphis will not be included in the conference or NCAA tournaments so playing them in a game that will definitely end in a forfeit for Memphis makes no sense...Why would they take the risk.

SERIOUSLY..... Obviously you're. Kidding....EVERY coach and school NOT named Duke/UK/NC Should ALL get behind what's being done here to crucify the little guy that makes waves like a BIG FISH

Let the team suffer for one. Great logic.

(11-09-2019 09:15 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:41 PM)maximus Wrote:  There have been major pivotal points in history where it takes a true stand to change the trajectory....

This can be a seriously defining moment in the history of sports.

If the NCAA does what the majority thinks it will do and upholds "changing its mind" YET AGAIN... the State, City, university, Penny, and Wiseman should all tell them to pound sand. No matter what they threaten, play the kid and win... win by as many as humanly possible. Turn the entire country on the clown show that is the NCAA. Make them physically pull him off of the floor.

This is a Jessie Owens @ the 36 Olympics moment.

This is a Texas Western vs UK in 66 moment.

Play and win

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

Yes thanks to that effort, Texas Western now has a thriving athletic program and UK is relegated to the dustbin of history. (in my dreams) Life's not fair, or, at least the NCAA part of it isn't.

You REALLY missed the point here.

I mean GOOD LORD. That game wasn't about Texas Western v. Kentucky as much as it was about, umm, something else entirely.

I suggest you take a lap and hit the showers and reflect on your wrongness.

(11-09-2019 09:42 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 09:15 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:41 PM)maximus Wrote:  There have been major pivotal points in history where it takes a true stand to change the trajectory....

This can be a seriously defining moment in the history of sports.

If the NCAA does what the majority thinks it will do and upholds "changing its mind" YET AGAIN... the State, City, university, Penny, and Wiseman should all tell them to pound sand. No matter what they threaten, play the kid and win... win by as many as humanly possible. Turn the entire country on the clown show that is the NCAA. Make them physically pull him off of the floor.

This is a Jessie Owens @ the 36 Olympics moment.

This is a Texas Western vs UK in 66 moment.

Play and win

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

Yes thanks to that effort, Texas Western now has a thriving athletic program and UK is relegated to the dustbin of history. (in my dreams) Life's not fair, or, at least the NCAA part of it isn't.

You REALLY missed the point here.

I mean GOOD LORD. That game wasn't about Texas Western v. Kentucky as much as it was about, umm, something else entirely.

I suggest you take a lap and hit the showers and reflect on your wrongness.

No, I know exactly what your point was, but you missed mine. The school that bucked the system basically accomplished nothing for itself and the blue-blood that was playing all white players is a powerhouse basketball program - still. Texas Western won the battle, but they lost the war.

(11-09-2019 09:42 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 09:15 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:41 PM)maximus Wrote:  There have been major pivotal points in history where it takes a true stand to change the trajectory....

This can be a seriously defining moment in the history of sports.

If the NCAA does what the majority thinks it will do and upholds "changing its mind" YET AGAIN... the State, City, university, Penny, and Wiseman should all tell them to pound sand. No matter what they threaten, play the kid and win... win by as many as humanly possible. Turn the entire country on the clown show that is the NCAA. Make them physically pull him off of the floor.

This is a Jessie Owens @ the 36 Olympics moment.

This is a Texas Western vs UK in 66 moment.

Play and win

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

Yes thanks to that effort, Texas Western now has a thriving athletic program and UK is relegated to the dustbin of history. (in my dreams) Life's not fair, or, at least the NCAA part of it isn't.

You REALLY missed the point here.

I mean GOOD LORD. That game wasn't about Texas Western v. Kentucky as much as it was about, umm, something else entirely.

I suggest you take a lap and hit the showers and reflect on your wrongness.

yes, most people get what you ,meant. Some people just want to me negative on any post they can.

At the end of the day, I'd not be shocked if Wiseman's mom is directed to pay the money back, in full and immediately. Bank of Bartlett will loan her the money and it'll be done. Maybe Wiseman gets suspended for 2 games and the story goes away.

I don't think the NCAA wants to be drug through the mud and exposed to some degree,and they settle.

(11-09-2019 10:03 PM)450bench Wrote:  At the end of the day, I'd not be shocked if Wiseman's mom is directed to pay the money back, in full and immediately. Bank of Bartlett will loan her the money and it'll be done. Maybe Wiseman gets suspended for 2 games and the story goes away.

I don't think the NCAA wants to be drug through the mud and exposed to some degree,and they settle.

^ This

Sure hope you're right, 450.

(11-09-2019 10:03 PM)450bench Wrote:  At the end of the day, I'd not be shocked if Wiseman's mom is directed to pay the money back, in full and immediately. Bank of Bartlett will loan her the money and it'll be done. Maybe Wiseman gets suspended for 2 games and the story goes away.

I don't think the NCAA wants to be drug through the mud and exposed to some degree,and they settle.

agree on everything but the length of penalty

i think it will be closer to 10-15 games

(11-09-2019 10:12 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  Sure hope you're right, 450.

Hell, me too.

My opinion is the NCAA thought the school and all parties would just roll over. When the heavy hitters kicked them square in the sack, the NCAA was shocked.
I don't think they want the bad PR in any way shape or form.

If they settle, all parties come out ahead. And it's on to the next fiasco for the NCAA.

(11-09-2019 10:03 PM)450bench Wrote:  At the end of the day, I'd not be shocked if Wiseman's mom is directed to pay the money back, in full and immediately. Bank of Bartlett will loan her the money and it'll be done. Maybe Wiseman gets suspended for 2 games and the story goes away.

I don't think the NCAA wants to be drug through the mud and exposed to some degree,and they settle.

This is a best case scenario. I’d be good with that

(11-09-2019 09:58 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 09:42 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 09:15 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:41 PM)maximus Wrote:  There have been major pivotal points in history where it takes a true stand to change the trajectory....

This can be a seriously defining moment in the history of sports.

If the NCAA does what the majority thinks it will do and upholds "changing its mind" YET AGAIN... the State, City, university, Penny, and Wiseman should all tell them to pound sand. No matter what they threaten, play the kid and win... win by as many as humanly possible. Turn the entire country on the clown show that is the NCAA. Make them physically pull him off of the floor.

This is a Jessie Owens @ the 36 Olympics moment.

This is a Texas Western vs UK in 66 moment.

Play and win

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

Yes thanks to that effort, Texas Western now has a thriving athletic program and UK is relegated to the dustbin of history. (in my dreams) Life's not fair, or, at least the NCAA part of it isn't.

You REALLY missed the point here.

I mean GOOD LORD. That game wasn't about Texas Western v. Kentucky as much as it was about, umm, something else entirely.

I suggest you take a lap and hit the showers and reflect on your wrongness.

No, I know exactly what your point was, but you missed mine. The school that bucked the system basically accomplished nothing for itself and the blue-blood that was playing all white players is a powerhouse basketball program - still. Texas Western won the battle, but they lost the war.

Wow. I guess if your only measure of success is wins/losses on the court.

(11-09-2019 10:19 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 10:12 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  Sure hope you're right, 450.

Hell, me too.

My opinion is the NCAA thought the school and all parties would just roll over. When the heavy hitters kicked them square in the sack, the NCAA was shocked.
I don't think they want the bad PR in any way shape or form.

If they settle, all parties come out ahead. And it's on to the next fiasco for the NCAA.

I feel this way too. People always say stuff like dont mess with the big bad wolf, because they will.stomp you. So everyone runs from them. When you stand up to them, you are usually surprised at the results that you get in my experience.

(11-09-2019 10:20 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 09:58 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 09:42 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 09:15 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:41 PM)maximus Wrote:  There have been major pivotal points in history where it takes a true stand to change the trajectory....

This can be a seriously defining moment in the history of sports.

If the NCAA does what the majority thinks it will do and upholds "changing its mind" YET AGAIN... the State, City, university, Penny, and Wiseman should all tell them to pound sand. No matter what they threaten, play the kid and win... win by as many as humanly possible. Turn the entire country on the clown show that is the NCAA. Make them physically pull him off of the floor.

This is a Jessie Owens @ the 36 Olympics moment.

This is a Texas Western vs UK in 66 moment.

Play and win

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

Yes thanks to that effort, Texas Western now has a thriving athletic program and UK is relegated to the dustbin of history. (in my dreams) Life's not fair, or, at least the NCAA part of it isn't.

You REALLY missed the point here.

I mean GOOD LORD. That game wasn't about Texas Western v. Kentucky as much as it was about, umm, something else entirely.

I suggest you take a lap and hit the showers and reflect on your wrongness.

No, I know exactly what your point was, but you missed mine. The school that bucked the system basically accomplished nothing for itself and the blue-blood that was playing all white players is a powerhouse basketball program - still. Texas Western won the battle, but they lost the war.

Wow. I guess if your only measure of success is wins/losses on the court.

I don't care to explain this again. I'm sorry I overestimated some people's intelligence.

(11-09-2019 10:14 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 10:03 PM)450bench Wrote:  At the end of the day, I'd not be shocked if Wiseman's mom is directed to pay the money back, in full and immediately. Bank of Bartlett will loan her the money and it'll be done. Maybe Wiseman gets suspended for 2 games and the story goes away.

I don't think the NCAA wants to be drug through the mud and exposed to some degree,and they settle.

agree on everything but the length of penalty

i think it will be closer to 10-15 games

Because of "punitive damages" this is no Bueno! Exact reason for the TRO altogether.....Because of Wises "earning potential" missing ANY games is NOT acceptable.....