(10-20-2019 02:25 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 10:50 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Problem solved. Sky Screamers will need to find something else silly to freak over. It’s a long week so I have faith in em’.

Holding the President to the low standard of not being corrupt is not silly.

Apparently it is a tall order

(10-20-2019 02:30 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 02:25 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 10:50 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Problem solved. Sky Screamers will need to find something else silly to freak over. It’s a long week so I have faith in em’.

Holding the President to the low standard of not being corrupt is not silly.

Apparently it is a tall order

And your evidence of corruption is?

N.B, the plural of "allegation" is not "evidence."

They should hold it at Midway Island. The protestors will have a fun time getting there.

(10-20-2019 02:37 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 02:30 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 02:25 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 10:50 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Problem solved. Sky Screamers will need to find something else silly to freak over. It’s a long week so I have faith in em’.

Holding the President to the low standard of not being corrupt is not silly.

Apparently it is a tall order

And your evidence of corruption is?

N.B, the plural of "allegation" is not "evidence."

This is some common sense ****

Giving a huge contract to your own business as the President of this great country is wrong. Legal, illegal, gray area of some clause, who cares. It is obvious you shouldn't do it. No President has done this in the past and no one should do it now or in the future. This should not be some left vs right issue.

And sure, people will try to argue with "but he said he would do it at cost!!!". Do you know how much free advertising that is alone for his business just awarding himself a monumental contract like that? Anyone arguing that this crap is okay has lost their minds. It shouldn't be normalized as it will only be abused in the future

We've got Democrats/Liberals pushing outrage culture trying to #cancel anyone they don't like while Republicans apparently now think it is okay for our President to award himself huge contracts for a business he didn't divest.

This country is off it's rocker

(10-20-2019 02:50 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  This is some common sense ****
Giving a huge contract to your own business as the President of this great country is wrong. Legal, illegal, gray area of some clause, who cares. It is obvious you shouldn't do it. No President has done this in the past and no one should do it now or in the future. This should not be some left vs right issue.

What president in the past has had the ability to do anything like it. I don't like the "smell test" aspect of using Doral, but I don't see it as a huge deal.

Quote:And sure, people will try to argue with "but he said he would do it at cost!!!". Do you know how much free advertising that is alone for his business just awarding himself a monumental contract like that? Anyone arguing that this crap is okay has lost their minds. It shouldn't be normalized as it will only be abused in the future
We've got Democrats/Liberals pushing outrage culture trying to #cancel anyone they don't like while Republicans apparently now think it is okay for our President to award himself huge contracts for a business he didn't divest.
This country is off it's rocker

The problem is that we haven't had politicians who got rich anywhere but in politics for some time. And we have consistently overlooked illegal and unethical conduct by too many of them to name. Someone who actually owns a profitable business presents problems entirely different from those presented by career politicians who have gotten rich peddling influence.

The optics of this are bad but if done at cost or free then how could this possibly be illegal?

I was already on record saying I didn't care about Doral if climate change was on the agenda. But it's not hard to see how Trump could profit from the G7 being held there even if they didn't really charge any significant money to hold it in June. And that would be the gray area that tests the boundaries of legality or not.

First, there would be extensive renovations and upgrades of the facilities prior to June that even if Doral paid for would be a significant tax write-off. Stuff like improving security, technology, etc. But more importantly, it would be a huge PR advantage to Doral in future promotional literature (for instance, when they try to attract future conferences).

When Rice hosted the G7 in 1990, they used photos from the event for decades (they probably still do on occasion) to reflect the fact that it's a world-class institution that features visits from world leaders. We used photos like this in media guides for years after that 1990 conference. And Rice is still gaining free publicity from JFK's 1962 moon speech at Rice Stadium.

Hell, Trump already is getting the type of positive publicity he enjoys by tweeting out that he's not having it at Doral due to the crazy Democrats and media (his words basically). That might have been his goal all along - you know that 4D chess folks talk about here.

All you guys are aware that Trump canceled Doral for the G-7, right?

So what the heck are you arguing about?

(10-20-2019 04:54 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  The optics of this are bad but if done at cost or free then how could this possibly be illegal?

Doing this "at cost" was probably not the plan. It sounded good to say it, but that was not going to happen. It's easy to see why Donny decided to pull the plug.

(10-20-2019 05:21 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

There are some great leaders in that photo. I'm just thinking several of those countries have much weaker leaders today.

The last time the held it at Camp David, no one liked it. Greenbriar isn't a bad idea and Trump brings a ton of money to a blue collar state.

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(10-20-2019 07:09 PM)fsquid Wrote:  The last time the held it at Camp David, no one liked it. Greenbriar isn't a bad idea and Trump brings a ton of money to a blue collar state.

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so last time = this time....gotcha...

at the end of the day, I'm fairly certain he doesn't give a fk where it's held.....I know I don't...

I find it amazingly strange that this is 'news'.....never mind....jfgdfc

(10-20-2019 07:17 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:09 PM)fsquid Wrote:  The last time the held it at Camp David, no one liked it. Greenbriar isn't a bad idea and Trump brings a ton of money to a blue collar state.

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so last time = this time....gotcha...

at the end of the day, I'm fairly certain he doesn't give a fk where it's held.....I know I don't...

I find it amazingly strange that this is 'news'.....never mind....jfgdfc

I'm sure Trump cares or it would never be proposed for South Florida in June.

Since I live in FL, I'm fine with all that cash being in my state

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(10-20-2019 07:59 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:17 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:09 PM)fsquid Wrote:  The last time the held it at Camp David, no one liked it. Greenbriar isn't a bad idea and Trump brings a ton of money to a blue collar state.

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so last time = this time....gotcha...

at the end of the day, I'm fairly certain he doesn't give a fk where it's held.....I know I don't...

I find it amazingly strange that this is 'news'.....never mind....jfgdfc

I'm sure Trump cares or it would never be proposed for South Florida in June.

Since I live in FL, I'm fine with all that cash being in my state

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pay att'n how he tossed small hands in air and said, "fk it!...I really don't give a shite!...make it happen somewhere"...it easily went down like 'that'...

you folk pine about the dumbest shite on the planet...well done....you win the wtfe award o'day...

(10-20-2019 08:36 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:59 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:17 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:09 PM)fsquid Wrote:  The last time the held it at Camp David, no one liked it. Greenbriar isn't a bad idea and Trump brings a ton of money to a blue collar state.

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so last time = this time....gotcha...

at the end of the day, I'm fairly certain he doesn't give a fk where it's held.....I know I don't...

I find it amazingly strange that this is 'news'.....never mind....jfgdfc

I'm sure Trump cares or it would never be proposed for South Florida in June.

Since I live in FL, I'm fine with all that cash being in my state

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pay att'n how he tossed small hands in air and said, "fk it!...I really don't give a shite!...make it happen somewhere"...it easily went down like 'that'...

you folk pine about the dumbest shite on the planet...well done....you win the wtfe award o'day...

Pine? I simply answered the questions out there.

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The G7 leaders wanted it at Doral. Doral is close to the airport and has villas for each country to stay in.

Camp David is a sh*thole as compared to Doral. They would probably rather have it in San Francisco, even if it means navigating the fecal matter in the streets, than to have it at Camp David.

(10-20-2019 02:50 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 02:37 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 02:30 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 02:25 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 10:50 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Problem solved. Sky Screamers will need to find something else silly to freak over. It’s a long week so I have faith in em’.

Holding the President to the low standard of not being corrupt is not silly.

Apparently it is a tall order

And your evidence of corruption is?

N.B, the plural of "allegation" is not "evidence."

This is some common sense ****

Giving a huge contract to your own business as the President of this great country is wrong. Legal, illegal, gray area of some clause, who cares. It is obvious you shouldn't do it. No President has done this in the past and no one should do it now or in the future. This should not be some left vs right issue.

And sure, people will try to argue with "but he said he would do it at cost!!!". Do you know how much free advertising that is alone for his business just awarding himself a monumental contract like that? Anyone arguing that this crap is okay has lost their minds. It shouldn't be normalized as it will only be abused in the future

We've got Democrats/Liberals pushing outrage culture trying to #cancel anyone they don't like while Republicans apparently now think it is okay for our President to award himself huge contracts for a business he didn't divest.

This country is off it's rocker

You're the one who's off his rocker.

Owl is right. While it wasn't a good decision, its not a big deal. Except to people who are off their rocker.

(10-21-2019 09:23 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 02:50 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 02:37 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 02:30 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 02:25 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Holding the President to the low standard of not being corrupt is not silly.

Apparently it is a tall order

And your evidence of corruption is?

N.B, the plural of "allegation" is not "evidence."

This is some common sense ****

Giving a huge contract to your own business as the President of this great country is wrong. Legal, illegal, gray area of some clause, who cares. It is obvious you shouldn't do it. No President has done this in the past and no one should do it now or in the future. This should not be some left vs right issue.

And sure, people will try to argue with "but he said he would do it at cost!!!". Do you know how much free advertising that is alone for his business just awarding himself a monumental contract like that? Anyone arguing that this crap is okay has lost their minds. It shouldn't be normalized as it will only be abused in the future

We've got Democrats/Liberals pushing outrage culture trying to #cancel anyone they don't like while Republicans apparently now think it is okay for our President to award himself huge contracts for a business he didn't divest.

This country is off it's rocker

You're the one who's off his rocker.

Owl is right. While it wasn't a good decision, its not a big deal. Except to people who are off their rocker.

Let's face it. No matter where the admin chose to hold the event SOMEONE would have complained. I'm just waiting for Trump to nominate another property of his. If for no reason than to agitate the constantly agitated.

So... if Trump is doing it at cost... how is he profiting?

I say just do it at Camp David again and let everyone b*tch and moan about how awful it is. Or better yet, do it in West Baltimore at a Best Western or something.

So when Hillary was Secretary of State her getting foreign contributions to the Clinton Foundation was a violation of the emoluments clause?