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RE: you can't blame this one on Brady White
(10-12-2019 04:39 PM)Keeper Wrote:  This loss is on Brady White. No way around it. That said, He is Our quarterback and We should support him. But the real reason we lost is because of the uniforms.

Ned is 100% right. Can’t blame Brady.

The HC is who allowed him to keep playing
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Not blaming Brady, the team got whipped by a physical team, didn't execute and a certain receiver didn't snag some catchable balls. Dude seems to have a hard time separating.
Disappointing but comes from a CUPCAKE DIET
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(10-12-2019 05:31 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 02:47 PM)mapdude Wrote:  disagree. BW had 3 turnovers. Anybody that thinks he is not responsible is just a BW sunshine pumper. He is just an average QB at best. It's time to give the backup some chances to show what he can do.

He messed up the mesh on a run play too. That’s 4 turnovers on him, even if that fumble wasn’t credited to him.

His hands were connected to EVERY turnover. He should volunteer to sit next game.
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(10-12-2019 04:48 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 04:38 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  I’m glad someone started this thread. This loss is entirely on Norvell and not BW.

I’ve been BW’s 2nd biggest critic on this board, but now I see the errors in a clear picture.

Norvell has set BW up to FAIL.

How?

Three of the turnovers occurred on RPO plays.

The 3 year old daughter of a Temple fan can see that Brady has no business running the RPO or running ever at all.
We all know that he cannot run. What’s the most yards he’s ever gained on run?
He’s immobile and terrible at improvising.

If the threat of the QB run is not respected by the defense then the entire play scheme is wasted. RPO entirely rests on forcing the defense to be accountable for the QB and having an extra option to take advantage of how the defense reacts.

On the interception, White thought about running which confused Coxie and when forced to make an agile throw on the run he got picked.

On the Clark fumble, it was an RPO and Brady tried to pull it.
As a former QB, I never fumbled a handoff in 8 years. Know why? I was slow. My coach never called an RPO play for me or an option of any kind. Want to fake? Use the open hand.
How many times has Brady and a running back fumbled an RPO exchange? 3 this year alone.

On the QB draw, the entire play was a wrinkle put in for Temple. A new spread empty backfield formation to take advantage of Gainwell outside. But even that play is a tip to the Defense because there’s no threat of Brady running. That’s why it was such a gimmick.
Technically that play should be RPO and set up to catch a safety cheating on the slot screen. But we saw it was a QB draw all the way. Norvell FAIL. BW fumbled and we lose the game.

The sack fumble happened so fast that Brady got caught between trying to run it versus eating the ball and taking the loss. Technically it wasn’t an RPO but still Brady tried to slip the pocket.

Since we all know Norvell is a Ride or Die guy on BW, he’s got to show maturity and change his offensive philosophy. Never again run an RPO.

Take out those RPO plays and we win by 15. Maybe 1 turnover.

Only go with straight handoffs, pitches and open hand fakes.

Let’s not forget that true option call should have ended in a fumble bc BW flipped it over the defender’s head. (Something every QB is taught not to do)

BW should never ever ever run a straight QB down the line option again, much less an RPO.

If Norvell wants to stick w BW, he’s got to adapt and build his offensive scheme around Brady’s best skills. He actually made some downfield throws again today.

Make that offensive coordinator earn his salary. Burn the RPO section of the playbook.
Hand the ball to Gainwell more.

Norvell’s stubborness at sticking with something that isn’t working will determine how good Memphis can be this season. Will he adapt?

agree 100%

our RPO is really only PO

We need to run it with Gainwell in the wildcat formation
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RE: you can't blame this one on Brady White
(10-12-2019 04:38 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  I’m glad someone started this thread. This loss is entirely on Norvell and not BW.

I’ve been BW’s 2nd biggest critic on this board, but now I see the errors in a clear picture.

Norvell has set BW up to FAIL.

How?

Three of the turnovers occurred on RPO plays.

The 3 year old daughter of a Temple fan can see that Brady has no business running the RPO or running ever at all.
We all know that he cannot run. What’s the most yards he’s ever gained on run?
He’s immobile and terrible at improvising.

If the threat of the QB run is not respected by the defense then the entire play scheme is wasted. RPO entirely rests on forcing the defense to be accountable for the QB and having an extra option to take advantage of how the defense reacts.

On the interception, White thought about running which confused Coxie and when forced to make an agile throw on the run he got picked.

On the Clark fumble, it was an RPO and Brady tried to pull it.
As a former QB, I never fumbled a handoff in 8 years. Know why? I was slow. My coach never called an RPO play for me or an option of any kind. Want to fake? Use the open hand.
How many times has Brady and a running back fumbled an RPO exchange? 3 this year alone.

On the QB draw, the entire play was a wrinkle put in for Temple. A new spread empty backfield formation to take advantage of Gainwell outside. But even that play is a tip to the Defense because there’s no threat of Brady running. That’s why it was such a gimmick.
Technically that play should be RPO and set up to catch a safety cheating on the slot screen. But we saw it was a QB draw all the way. Norvell FAIL. BW fumbled and we lose the game.

The sack fumble happened so fast that Brady got caught between trying to run it versus eating the ball and taking the loss. Technically it wasn’t an RPO but still Brady tried to slip the pocket.

Since we all know Norvell is a Ride or Die guy on BW, he’s got to show maturity and change his offensive philosophy. Never again run an RPO.

Take out those RPO plays and we win by 15. Maybe 1 turnover.

Only go with straight handoffs, pitches and open hand fakes.

Let’s not forget that true option call should have ended in a fumble bc BW flipped it over the defender’s head. (Something every QB is taught not to do)

BW should never ever ever run a straight QB down the line option again, much less an RPO.

If Norvell wants to stick w BW, he’s got to adapt and build his offensive scheme around Brady’s best skills. He actually made some downfield throws again today.

Make that offensive coordinator earn his salary. Burn the RPO section of the playbook.
Hand the ball to Gainwell more.

Norvell’s stubborness at sticking with something that isn’t working will determine how good Memphis can be this season. Will he adapt?

Totally agree. I’ve been echoing this all season—we have no short (downfield) passing plays—no 3 step drop passing plays. Everything passing play takes time. Brady appears much more comfortable in our 2 minute offense when we are running straight passing plays.
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(10-12-2019 05:31 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 02:47 PM)mapdude Wrote:  disagree. BW had 3 turnovers. Anybody that thinks he is not responsible is just a BW sunshine pumper. He is just an average QB at best. It's time to give the backup some chances to show what he can do.

He messed up the mesh on a run play too. That’s 4 turnovers on him, even if that fumble wasn’t credited to him.

The running back tried to take the ball...Which I don't blame him since Brady almost never pulls it.

But go ahead and pile on and blame White for that.
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Why do u Dudes insist on Brady running, the Dude is slow he's not a running q.b
Coach Norvell likes a throwing q.b., if he can run some great, Brady is slow he shouldn't run
Hopefully our new coach will recruit a running q.b who can throw a little, bet u Dudes will be elated with that deal
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(10-12-2019 02:44 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 02:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 02:33 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  At this point, as long as Norvell continues to hang his hat on White, I have nothing good to say about Norvell.

He is letting the team down by having his head stuck so far up the a$$ of his babysitter.

White threw for 370+ yards...

Take out the fumbles and we win big. Mistakes are correctable.

White is not perfect but he is getting better.

Thats kind of like saying "If I didnt beat my kids I would be a good dad"

He is not getting better. He is who he is, a very average college qb.

They dominated line play and except for a couple plays they shut down our running game. If not for the 370 yards and 2 TDs this game would have been a blowout. Clark turned the ball over also but no one wants to lynch him and he endede up with -1 yards for the game as a RB.
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(10-12-2019 06:23 PM)mapdude Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 05:31 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 02:47 PM)mapdude Wrote:  disagree. BW had 3 turnovers. Anybody that thinks he is not responsible is just a BW sunshine pumper. He is just an average QB at best. It's time to give the backup some chances to show what he can do.

He messed up the mesh on a run play too. That’s 4 turnovers on him, even if that fumble wasn’t credited to him.

His hands were connected to EVERY turnover. He should volunteer to sit next game.

So was the center's hands.
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(10-12-2019 06:36 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 04:48 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 04:38 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  I’m glad someone started this thread. This loss is entirely on Norvell and not BW.

I’ve been BW’s 2nd biggest critic on this board, but now I see the errors in a clear picture.

Norvell has set BW up to FAIL.

How?

Three of the turnovers occurred on RPO plays.

The 3 year old daughter of a Temple fan can see that Brady has no business running the RPO or running ever at all.
We all know that he cannot run. What’s the most yards he’s ever gained on run?
He’s immobile and terrible at improvising.

If the threat of the QB run is not respected by the defense then the entire play scheme is wasted. RPO entirely rests on forcing the defense to be accountable for the QB and having an extra option to take advantage of how the defense reacts.

On the interception, White thought about running which confused Coxie and when forced to make an agile throw on the run he got picked.

On the Clark fumble, it was an RPO and Brady tried to pull it.
As a former QB, I never fumbled a handoff in 8 years. Know why? I was slow. My coach never called an RPO play for me or an option of any kind. Want to fake? Use the open hand.
How many times has Brady and a running back fumbled an RPO exchange? 3 this year alone.

On the QB draw, the entire play was a wrinkle put in for Temple. A new spread empty backfield formation to take advantage of Gainwell outside. But even that play is a tip to the Defense because there’s no threat of Brady running. That’s why it was such a gimmick.
Technically that play should be RPO and set up to catch a safety cheating on the slot screen. But we saw it was a QB draw all the way. Norvell FAIL. BW fumbled and we lose the game.

The sack fumble happened so fast that Brady got caught between trying to run it versus eating the ball and taking the loss. Technically it wasn’t an RPO but still Brady tried to slip the pocket.

Since we all know Norvell is a Ride or Die guy on BW, he’s got to show maturity and change his offensive philosophy. Never again run an RPO.

Take out those RPO plays and we win by 15. Maybe 1 turnover.

Only go with straight handoffs, pitches and open hand fakes.

Let’s not forget that true option call should have ended in a fumble bc BW flipped it over the defender’s head. (Something every QB is taught not to do)

BW should never ever ever run a straight QB down the line option again, much less an RPO.

If Norvell wants to stick w BW, he’s got to adapt and build his offensive scheme around Brady’s best skills. He actually made some downfield throws again today.

Make that offensive coordinator earn his salary. Burn the RPO section of the playbook.
Hand the ball to Gainwell more.

Norvell’s stubborness at sticking with something that isn’t working will determine how good Memphis can be this season. Will he adapt?

agree 100%

our RPO is really only PO

We need to run it with Gainwell in the wildcat formation

You do realize we only had 129 yards rushing for the game. And that is with them having to worry about Whites 360+ passing yards. The only good thing that came out of our running game today is that Gainwell surpassed 100 yards for the fourth straight game this year.
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(10-12-2019 06:41 PM)micman Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 04:38 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  I’m glad someone started this thread. This loss is entirely on Norvell and not BW.

I’ve been BW’s 2nd biggest critic on this board, but now I see the errors in a clear picture.

Norvell has set BW up to FAIL.

How?

Three of the turnovers occurred on RPO plays.

The 3 year old daughter of a Temple fan can see that Brady has no business running the RPO or running ever at all.
We all know that he cannot run. What’s the most yards he’s ever gained on run?
He’s immobile and terrible at improvising.

If the threat of the QB run is not respected by the defense then the entire play scheme is wasted. RPO entirely rests on forcing the defense to be accountable for the QB and having an extra option to take advantage of how the defense reacts.

On the interception, White thought about running which confused Coxie and when forced to make an agile throw on the run he got picked.

On the Clark fumble, it was an RPO and Brady tried to pull it.
As a former QB, I never fumbled a handoff in 8 years. Know why? I was slow. My coach never called an RPO play for me or an option of any kind. Want to fake? Use the open hand.
How many times has Brady and a running back fumbled an RPO exchange? 3 this year alone.

On the QB draw, the entire play was a wrinkle put in for Temple. A new spread empty backfield formation to take advantage of Gainwell outside. But even that play is a tip to the Defense because there’s no threat of Brady running. That’s why it was such a gimmick.
Technically that play should be RPO and set up to catch a safety cheating on the slot screen. But we saw it was a QB draw all the way. Norvell FAIL. BW fumbled and we lose the game.

The sack fumble happened so fast that Brady got caught between trying to run it versus eating the ball and taking the loss. Technically it wasn’t an RPO but still Brady tried to slip the pocket.

Since we all know Norvell is a Ride or Die guy on BW, he’s got to show maturity and change his offensive philosophy. Never again run an RPO.

Take out those RPO plays and we win by 15. Maybe 1 turnover.

Only go with straight handoffs, pitches and open hand fakes.

Let’s not forget that true option call should have ended in a fumble bc BW flipped it over the defender’s head. (Something every QB is taught not to do)

BW should never ever ever run a straight QB down the line option again, much less an RPO.

If Norvell wants to stick w BW, he’s got to adapt and build his offensive scheme around Brady’s best skills. He actually made some downfield throws again today.

Make that offensive coordinator earn his salary. Burn the RPO section of the playbook.
Hand the ball to Gainwell more.

Norvell’s stubborness at sticking with something that isn’t working will determine how good Memphis can be this season. Will he adapt?

Totally agree. I’ve been echoing this all season—we have no short (downfield) passing plays—no 3 step drop passing plays. Everything passing play takes time. Brady appears much more comfortable in our 2 minute offense when we are running straight passing plays.

In fairness that is exactly what he was dubbed as out of high school, a pro style QB. He is no threat to run. And it does put White in very uncomfortable positions. I agree 100% that is clear that Norvell either needs to change QBs or modify his scheme to fit White’s skill set.
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(10-12-2019 04:48 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 04:38 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  I’m glad someone started this thread. This loss is entirely on Norvell and not BW.

I’ve been BW’s 2nd biggest critic on this board, but now I see the errors in a clear picture.

Norvell has set BW up to FAIL.

How?

Three of the turnovers occurred on RPO plays.

The 3 year old daughter of a Temple fan can see that Brady has no business running the RPO or running ever at all.
We all know that he cannot run. What’s the most yards he’s ever gained on run?
He’s immobile and terrible at improvising.

If the threat of the QB run is not respected by the defense then the entire play scheme is wasted. RPO entirely rests on forcing the defense to be accountable for the QB and having an extra option to take advantage of how the defense reacts.

On the interception, White thought about running which confused Coxie and when forced to make an agile throw on the run he got picked.

On the Clark fumble, it was an RPO and Brady tried to pull it.
As a former QB, I never fumbled a handoff in 8 years. Know why? I was slow. My coach never called an RPO play for me or an option of any kind. Want to fake? Use the open hand.
How many times has Brady and a running back fumbled an RPO exchange? 3 this year alone.

On the QB draw, the entire play was a wrinkle put in for Temple. A new spread empty backfield formation to take advantage of Gainwell outside. But even that play is a tip to the Defense because there’s no threat of Brady running. That’s why it was such a gimmick.
Technically that play should be RPO and set up to catch a safety cheating on the slot screen. But we saw it was a QB draw all the way. Norvell FAIL. BW fumbled and we lose the game.

The sack fumble happened so fast that Brady got caught between trying to run it versus eating the ball and taking the loss. Technically it wasn’t an RPO but still Brady tried to slip the pocket.

Since we all know Norvell is a Ride or Die guy on BW, he’s got to show maturity and change his offensive philosophy. Never again run an RPO.

Take out those RPO plays and we win by 15. Maybe 1 turnover.

Only go with straight handoffs, pitches and open hand fakes.

Let’s not forget that true option call should have ended in a fumble bc BW flipped it over the defender’s head. (Something every QB is taught not to do)

BW should never ever ever run a straight QB down the line option again, much less an RPO.

If Norvell wants to stick w BW, he’s got to adapt and build his offensive scheme around Brady’s best skills. He actually made some downfield throws again today.

Make that offensive coordinator earn his salary. Burn the RPO section of the playbook.
Hand the ball to Gainwell more.

Norvell’s stubborness at sticking with something that isn’t working will determine how good Memphis can be this season. Will he adapt?

agree 100%

our RPO is really only PO

Normally there are 3 options in the RPO

1. handoff to the RB and he runs the ball
2. fake the handoff to the RB and the QB drops back to pass
3. fake the handoff to the RB and the QB runs the ball

I think Norvell has just crossed the 3rd option off the list and continues to run RPO

I think it is a horrible strategy (without the QB run option) and we should shitcan the whole thing and accept that White is a pocket passer. Just run a pro style offense that heavily utilizes play action passing.
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you can't blame this one on Brady White
He continues to ride and die with the guy. But yes he's an average QB

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(10-12-2019 08:13 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 06:41 PM)micman Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 04:38 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  I’m glad someone started this thread. This loss is entirely on Norvell and not BW.

I’ve been BW’s 2nd biggest critic on this board, but now I see the errors in a clear picture.

Norvell has set BW up to FAIL.

How?

Three of the turnovers occurred on RPO plays.

The 3 year old daughter of a Temple fan can see that Brady has no business running the RPO or running ever at all.
We all know that he cannot run. What’s the most yards he’s ever gained on run?
He’s immobile and terrible at improvising.

If the threat of the QB run is not respected by the defense then the entire play scheme is wasted. RPO entirely rests on forcing the defense to be accountable for the QB and having an extra option to take advantage of how the defense reacts.

On the interception, White thought about running which confused Coxie and when forced to make an agile throw on the run he got picked.

On the Clark fumble, it was an RPO and Brady tried to pull it.
As a former QB, I never fumbled a handoff in 8 years. Know why? I was slow. My coach never called an RPO play for me or an option of any kind. Want to fake? Use the open hand.
How many times has Brady and a running back fumbled an RPO exchange? 3 this year alone.

On the QB draw, the entire play was a wrinkle put in for Temple. A new spread empty backfield formation to take advantage of Gainwell outside. But even that play is a tip to the Defense because there’s no threat of Brady running. That’s why it was such a gimmick.
Technically that play should be RPO and set up to catch a safety cheating on the slot screen. But we saw it was a QB draw all the way. Norvell FAIL. BW fumbled and we lose the game.

The sack fumble happened so fast that Brady got caught between trying to run it versus eating the ball and taking the loss. Technically it wasn’t an RPO but still Brady tried to slip the pocket.

Since we all know Norvell is a Ride or Die guy on BW, he’s got to show maturity and change his offensive philosophy. Never again run an RPO.

Take out those RPO plays and we win by 15. Maybe 1 turnover.

Only go with straight handoffs, pitches and open hand fakes.

Let’s not forget that true option call should have ended in a fumble bc BW flipped it over the defender’s head. (Something every QB is taught not to do)

BW should never ever ever run a straight QB down the line option again, much less an RPO.

If Norvell wants to stick w BW, he’s got to adapt and build his offensive scheme around Brady’s best skills. He actually made some downfield throws again today.

Make that offensive coordinator earn his salary. Burn the RPO section of the playbook.
Hand the ball to Gainwell more.

Norvell’s stubborness at sticking with something that isn’t working will determine how good Memphis can be this season. Will he adapt?

Totally agree. I’ve been echoing this all season—we have no short (downfield) passing plays—no 3 step drop passing plays. Everything passing play takes time. Brady appears much more comfortable in our 2 minute offense when we are running straight passing plays.

In fairness that is exactly what he was dubbed as out of high school, a pro style QB. He is no threat to run. And it does put White in very uncomfortable positions. I agree 100% that is clear that Norvell either needs to change QBs or modify his scheme to fit White’s skill set.

Agree. Norvell is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. RPO with Brady White is like running a triple option with a lineman as your QB.
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(10-12-2019 08:56 PM)fsquid Wrote:  He continues to ride and die with the guy. But yes he's an average QB

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Kinda like Jake Fromm. Dude threw 2 picks and lost to USCe. Prolly should bench him too.
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(10-12-2019 08:29 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 04:48 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 04:38 PM)ShilohTiger Wrote:  I’m glad someone started this thread. This loss is entirely on Norvell and not BW.

I’ve been BW’s 2nd biggest critic on this board, but now I see the errors in a clear picture.

Norvell has set BW up to FAIL.

How?

Three of the turnovers occurred on RPO plays.

The 3 year old daughter of a Temple fan can see that Brady has no business running the RPO or running ever at all.
We all know that he cannot run. What’s the most yards he’s ever gained on run?
He’s immobile and terrible at improvising.

If the threat of the QB run is not respected by the defense then the entire play scheme is wasted. RPO entirely rests on forcing the defense to be accountable for the QB and having an extra option to take advantage of how the defense reacts.

On the interception, White thought about running which confused Coxie and when forced to make an agile throw on the run he got picked.

On the Clark fumble, it was an RPO and Brady tried to pull it.
As a former QB, I never fumbled a handoff in 8 years. Know why? I was slow. My coach never called an RPO play for me or an option of any kind. Want to fake? Use the open hand.
How many times has Brady and a running back fumbled an RPO exchange? 3 this year alone.

On the QB draw, the entire play was a wrinkle put in for Temple. A new spread empty backfield formation to take advantage of Gainwell outside. But even that play is a tip to the Defense because there’s no threat of Brady running. That’s why it was such a gimmick.
Technically that play should be RPO and set up to catch a safety cheating on the slot screen. But we saw it was a QB draw all the way. Norvell FAIL. BW fumbled and we lose the game.

The sack fumble happened so fast that Brady got caught between trying to run it versus eating the ball and taking the loss. Technically it wasn’t an RPO but still Brady tried to slip the pocket.

Since we all know Norvell is a Ride or Die guy on BW, he’s got to show maturity and change his offensive philosophy. Never again run an RPO.

Take out those RPO plays and we win by 15. Maybe 1 turnover.

Only go with straight handoffs, pitches and open hand fakes.

Let’s not forget that true option call should have ended in a fumble bc BW flipped it over the defender’s head. (Something every QB is taught not to do)

BW should never ever ever run a straight QB down the line option again, much less an RPO.

If Norvell wants to stick w BW, he’s got to adapt and build his offensive scheme around Brady’s best skills. He actually made some downfield throws again today.

Make that offensive coordinator earn his salary. Burn the RPO section of the playbook.
Hand the ball to Gainwell more.

Norvell’s stubborness at sticking with something that isn’t working will determine how good Memphis can be this season. Will he adapt?

agree 100%

our RPO is really only PO

Normally there are 3 options in the RPO

1. handoff to the RB and he runs the ball
2. fake the handoff to the RB and the QB drops back to pass
3. fake the handoff to the RB and the QB runs the ball

I think Norvell has just crossed the 3rd option off the list and continues to run RPO

I think it is a horrible strategy (without the QB run option) and we should shitcan the whole thing and accept that White is a pocket passer. Just run a pro style offense that heavily utilizes play action passing.

I agree so much, but there is one nuance.

There’s a variance to the run/pass version where the QB keeps his feet set, fakes the belly give, then if he wants he can throw a pass with no intention of running.
Two problems here,
First has Memphis has been called for lineman downfield 5 times this season.

Secondly, Brady can’t fake the belly give.
Maybe it’s because Clark is young, and Taylor is out.

But our offensive line doesn’t do well in execution on that play. They don’t know if it’s a run or a pass and fail to block accordingly.
I could go to the film, but I’m guessing we’ve had a TFL, fumble, sack, or penalty on that play 15+ times this season. This is the play that consistently gets blown up in the backfield.

High rewards when executed with a quick pop pass downfield but highly risky. What’s the success rate against a good defense? 50%?
What’s an acceptable fumble rate on any play? Anything more than 5% and you shut it down. We were around 20% turnovers on RPO. That’s impeachable.
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(10-12-2019 06:53 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Why do u Dudes insist on Brady running, the Dude is slow he's not a running q.b
Coach Norvell likes a throwing q.b., if he can run some great, Brady is slow he shouldn't run
Hopefully our new coach will recruit a running q.b who can throw a little, bet u Dudes will be elated with that deal

Yes, I will be elated. Watched a few other games today, and BW is the SLOWEST RUNNING qb in D1 I bet. He should just plain NEVER try to run. Throw it away or take the sack. He is just a plain average D1 QB, always will be.
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Brady is trying to run more. That's the problem. He just can't. He's weak and slow. His running leads to bad things.

When Brady has time to run the offense, he is a very good college qb. He checks off, makes good reads, and makes the right throw.

The other problem is that our OL is not very good at pass protection. D's have figured out they have to pressure the qb and they have figured out the zone blocking we employ. When their DL executes the game plan, they get pressure on BW and bad things tend to happen.

His to's today were infuriating. As was the delay of game call on the first play of a series. He also made some really good plays to bring us back. As I've said all year, he's an enigma.

Ironically, it was under huge pressure on 4th and 8 with the game on the line and a DL hanging all over him, that he made enough of a play (along with a Magnificent catch), that we should have won the game.
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(10-12-2019 07:51 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  So was the center's hands.

What an incredibly stupid remark.

The center snapped the ball to BW. Clean, no fumbles, no mess up, and BW took it clean and then attempted to run the plays.
HTF was the center responsible? I will await your explanation...
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(10-12-2019 09:16 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 08:56 PM)fsquid Wrote:  He continues to ride and die with the guy. But yes he's an average QB

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Kinda like Jake Fromm. Dude threw 2 picks and lost to USCe. Prolly should bench him too.

He wasn't playing against Temple either.
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