(10-13-2019 11:08 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(10-12-2019 03:31 PM)tigerdave84701112 Wrote:  Is Brady the illegitimate son of Norvell? Down 16-0 and turning the ball over like a freshman should warrant at least one series on the bench.

You mean the next series when we made it 16-7 pretty quickly?

Yeah, I wish he had been on the bench later for the one where he was hit on the arm and fumbled while diving to the ground on a QB run. That would have been a good time to have had him on the bench.

I wish he had slid instead, gotten hit, and gotten us 15 yards tacked on. That would have been kuwel.

(10-13-2019 10:20 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  If we had a better QB, then he would be playing. White has flaws, but he’s better than most of the prior QB’s at Memphis I’ve witnessed... not named Lynch, Ferguson, Wimprine or Matthews. Not too many years ago, the team would have given up in a game like yesterday’s and we would have lost by 30.

Martin Hankins should probably be in that list. His performance was often drowned out by the defensive problems we had at that time, at least one season of his two.

(10-13-2019 11:13 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:20 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  If we had a better QB, then he would be playing. White has flaws, but he’s better than most of the prior QB’s at Memphis I’ve witnessed... not named Lynch, Ferguson, Wimprine or Matthews. Not too many years ago, the team would have given up in a game like yesterday’s and we would have lost by 30.

Martin Hankins should probably be in that list. His performance was often drowned out by the defensive problems we had at that time, at least one season of his two.

Hankins and White are/were similar QB’s. Neither had a particular strong arm and neither could beat you with their feet.

I don’t think you can put him ahead of White, though.

(10-13-2019 10:57 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:51 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:20 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  If we had a better QB, then he would be playing. White has flaws, but he’s better than most of the prior QB’s at Memphis I’ve witnessed... not named Lynch, Ferguson, Wimprine or Matthews. Not too many years ago, the team would have given up in a game like yesterday’s and we would have lost by 30.

That's YOUR assumption. Not mine. I saw enough of Connor to disagree.

College coaches are in it for a paycheck. If they play “favorites” of lesser ability then they lose the team and the paycheck. Every player on that squad knows who the best option at QB is... its just a position you in which you cannot hide. Maybe Connor will be a better future option, but he’s not right now.

I agree with this for the most part. However, coaches are 100% human as well which means they deal with real emotions like pride, stubbornness and so on which can definitely cloud their judgement and impact their decision making. I think with White Novell loves his attitude and brain and also has a feeling of debt for him following him to Memphis which definitely seems to be playing a part in all of this.

(10-13-2019 10:50 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:33 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 08:21 AM)shirley temple Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 07:56 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Seeing this coming doesn’t make it any less frustrating. Many of us knew we’d lose to a decent team (we should beat) due to Brady’s shortcomings. It still brings me no joy to be right; I’m bummed out for the team and the kid.

Glad you said this , I agree; bummed for Brady, we all wanted him to succeed. But we can’t just feel for him, think of the other scholarship quarterbacks on our team, feel bummed for them too. Regardless of how good or not they are, they were recruited here and I’m sure told they would have a chance to compete and haven’t. And still have to watch and watch and watch. Has to be tough on those kids. They are also tigers! That’s who I’m bummed for!

Yes, this is why McBride left. That kid was a player. He was mobile too. I'm sure he saw that he wasn't going to play ahead of BW, no matter what.

Was that because he couldn't beat out BW running this offense?

Yes of course. BW is the #1 and McBride was 2, Adair was #3. But some are now saying lets give #2 a shot. Well our real #2 left for Texas State. MN is not going to go to the guy that was #3 just 6 weeks ago. JMO.

(10-13-2019 02:36 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:50 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:33 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 08:21 AM)shirley temple Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 07:56 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Seeing this coming doesn’t make it any less frustrating. Many of us knew we’d lose to a decent team (we should beat) due to Brady’s shortcomings. It still brings me no joy to be right; I’m bummed out for the team and the kid.

Glad you said this , I agree; bummed for Brady, we all wanted him to succeed. But we can’t just feel for him, think of the other scholarship quarterbacks on our team, feel bummed for them too. Regardless of how good or not they are, they were recruited here and I’m sure told they would have a chance to compete and haven’t. And still have to watch and watch and watch. Has to be tough on those kids. They are also tigers! That’s who I’m bummed for!

Yes, this is why McBride left. That kid was a player. He was mobile too. I'm sure he saw that he wasn't going to play ahead of BW, no matter what.

Was that because he couldn't beat out BW running this offense?

Yes of course. BW is the #1 and McBride was 2, Adair was #3. But some are now saying lets give #2 a shot. Well our real #2 left for Texas State. MN is not going to go to the guy that was #3 just 6 weeks ago. JMO.

Well, Norvell recruited ALL of them.

If the "best" QB is just an average at most D1 QB then is that not also on Norvell?

He has recruited well all around, so I have a hard time believing he could not recruit a better QB than Brady White.

(10-13-2019 10:20 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  If we had a better QB, then he would be playing. White has flaws, but he’s better than most of the prior QB’s at Memphis I’ve witnessed... not named Lynch, Ferguson, Wimprine or Matthews. Not too many years ago, the team would have given up in a game like yesterday’s and we would have lost by 30.

It is time for us to stop looking at the past.

It makes no difference what prior QBs were at Memphis or how we would have responded a few years ago.

This is a different Memphis football program, where we have good community support, good institutional backing and more national recognition than we have ever had.

We have proven that this can be a good program so we should raise our expectation of what we can be instead of saying this is as good as we have had.

People are not downing Brady White because we think he is the worst ever, but because this could be one of the best teams ever and we think we would not reach what could be because of HIS flaws.

(10-13-2019 05:05 PM)Blackman Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:20 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  If we had a better QB, then he would be playing. White has flaws, but he’s better than most of the prior QB’s at Memphis I’ve witnessed... not named Lynch, Ferguson, Wimprine or Matthews. Not too many years ago, the team would have given up in a game like yesterday’s and we would have lost by 30.

It is time for us to stop looking at the past.

It makes no difference what prior QBs were at Memphis or how we would have responded a few years ago.

This is a different Memphis football program, where we have good community support, good institutional backing and more national recognition than we have ever had.

We have proven that this can be a good program so we should raise our expectation of what we can be instead of saying this is as good as we have had.

People are not downing Brady White because we think he is the worst ever, but because this could be one of the best teams ever and we think we would not reach what could be because of HIS flaws.

Yeah, Brady had a bad game, put us in the hole, and couldn't quite get us out of it. But many of you are taking it to other places.

Lots of trolling going on here, guys. I hope most recognize the culprits.

(10-12-2019 10:05 PM)mapdude Wrote:  

(10-12-2019 06:53 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Why do u Dudes insist on Brady running, the Dude is slow he's not a running q.b
Coach Norvell likes a throwing q.b., if he can run some great, Brady is slow he shouldn't run
Hopefully our new coach will recruit a running q.b who can throw a little, bet u Dudes will be elated with that deal

Yes, I will be elated. Watched a few other games today, and BW is the SLOWEST RUNNING qb in D1 I bet. He should just plain NEVER try to run. Throw it away or take the sack. He is just a plain average D1 QB, always will be.

Didn't he have a severe broken ankle that he sat out 2 years re-habing? Maybe he can't run?

(10-13-2019 02:36 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:50 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:33 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 08:21 AM)shirley temple Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 07:56 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Seeing this coming doesn’t make it any less frustrating. Many of us knew we’d lose to a decent team (we should beat) due to Brady’s shortcomings. It still brings me no joy to be right; I’m bummed out for the team and the kid.

Glad you said this , I agree; bummed for Brady, we all wanted him to succeed. But we can’t just feel for him, think of the other scholarship quarterbacks on our team, feel bummed for them too. Regardless of how good or not they are, they were recruited here and I’m sure told they would have a chance to compete and haven’t. And still have to watch and watch and watch. Has to be tough on those kids. They are also tigers! That’s who I’m bummed for!

Yes, this is why McBride left. That kid was a player. He was mobile too. I'm sure he saw that he wasn't going to play ahead of BW, no matter what.

Was that because he couldn't beat out BW running this offense?

Yes of course. BW is the #1 and McBride was 2, Adair was #3. But some are now saying lets give #2 a shot. Well our real #2 left for Texas State. MN is not going to go to the guy that was #3 just 6 weeks ago. JMO.

yea. Cuz you don’t know. If you go back to Norvell at Arizona State, he played Taylor kelly forever, got some heat for it but kept him in. Finally he got hurt and mike bercivici finally got to play, and went on to set records. Just saying. Also comparing past quarterbacks to this generation is bs. The offensive game has changed so much you can’t even attempt to compare more than 5 years or so. But keep on with your agenda of close minded favorites. I just want the best for my team, and at this point with the weapons and system we have, I would like to see someone else prove me wrong!

Backup QBs should get playing time in big games, even if for just a few plays.
That’s just my personal philosophy regardless of the team or personnel.

In this situation, all things considered, the backup needs to play a series once a game.
Especially when the starter gets rattled.

(10-13-2019 08:56 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(10-12-2019 10:05 PM)mapdude Wrote:  

(10-12-2019 06:53 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Why do u Dudes insist on Brady running, the Dude is slow he's not a running q.b
Coach Norvell likes a throwing q.b., if he can run some great, Brady is slow he shouldn't run
Hopefully our new coach will recruit a running q.b who can throw a little, bet u Dudes will be elated with that deal

Yes, I will be elated. Watched a few other games today, and BW is the SLOWEST RUNNING qb in D1 I bet. He should just plain NEVER try to run. Throw it away or take the sack. He is just a plain average D1 QB, always will be.

Didn't he have a severe broken ankle that he sat out 2 years re-habing? Maybe he can't run?

Some sort of foot injury. Not sure if it was a break or what.

(10-13-2019 08:50 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Yeah, Brady had a bad game, put us in the hole, and couldn't quite get us out of it. But many of you are taking it to other places.

Lots of trolling going on here, guys. I hope most recognize the culprits.

The fumble on the sack and the one when he was hit on the arm while going to the ground on a run, I wouldn't say you could blame him for those, but we see those so much from him that I can see why some people say it is a problem with him. The "what the heck are you DOING" little lob pass that was picked and the fumbled exchange, whichever guy's fault, are one's you could definitely put in the bad game category. Of course, those are also things we've seen several times before from him.

I get the frustration, but I certainly don't agree with the "put in Adair" comments. He is more a gamble because of lack of PT at this level. We needed to have stopped Southern more on D, and ULM, then maybe he could have gotten some useful experience. I understand why Norvell played both backups that one time, but kind of wish he had left Adair in.

(Oh no! I just set up the conspiracy theorists to start a rant.)

(10-13-2019 08:58 PM)shirley temple Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 02:36 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:50 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:33 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 08:21 AM)shirley temple Wrote:  Glad you said this , I agree; bummed for Brady, we all wanted him to succeed. But we can’t just feel for him, think of the other scholarship quarterbacks on our team, feel bummed for them too. Regardless of how good or not they are, they were recruited here and I’m sure told they would have a chance to compete and haven’t. And still have to watch and watch and watch. Has to be tough on those kids. They are also tigers! That’s who I’m bummed for!

Yes, this is why McBride left. That kid was a player. He was mobile too. I'm sure he saw that he wasn't going to play ahead of BW, no matter what.

Was that because he couldn't beat out BW running this offense?

Yes of course. BW is the #1 and McBride was 2, Adair was #3. But some are now saying lets give #2 a shot. Well our real #2 left for Texas State. MN is not going to go to the guy that was #3 just 6 weeks ago. JMO.

yea. Cuz you don’t know. If you go back to Norvell at Arizona State, he played Taylor kelly forever, got some heat for it but kept him in. Finally he got hurt and mike bercivici finally got to play, and went on to set records. Just saying. Also comparing past quarterbacks to this generation is bs. The offensive game has changed so much you can’t even attempt to compare more than 5 years or so. But keep on with your agenda of close minded favorites. I just want the best for my team, and at this point with the weapons and system we have, I would like to see someone else prove me wrong!

And now I’ll play devils advocate; if non of our other quarterbacks are good enough, why can’t Norvell recruit a quarterback after 3 years and rely on a transfer! Something is fishy in this whole qb thing.Why since Brady got here has he taken every meaningful rep? The skill positions are loaded ; and injuries aside very deep. But only 1 worthy qb?? I’m not buying it!!

(10-13-2019 11:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 11:13 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:20 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  If we had a better QB, then he would be playing. White has flaws, but he’s better than most of the prior QB’s at Memphis I’ve witnessed... not named Lynch, Ferguson, Wimprine or Matthews. Not too many years ago, the team would have given up in a game like yesterday’s and we would have lost by 30.

Martin Hankins should probably be in that list. His performance was often drowned out by the defensive problems we had at that time, at least one season of his two.

Hankins and White are/were similar QB’s. Neither had a particular strong arm and neither could beat you with their feet.

I don’t think you can put him ahead of White, though.

I thought of Hankins too, but he is more mobile than White, of course anyone who does not go down when touched is more mobile than White.

(10-13-2019 02:36 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:50 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:33 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 08:21 AM)shirley temple Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 07:56 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Seeing this coming doesn’t make it any less frustrating. Many of us knew we’d lose to a decent team (we should beat) due to Brady’s shortcomings. It still brings me no joy to be right; I’m bummed out for the team and the kid.

Glad you said this , I agree; bummed for Brady, we all wanted him to succeed. But we can’t just feel for him, think of the other scholarship quarterbacks on our team, feel bummed for them too. Regardless of how good or not they are, they were recruited here and I’m sure told they would have a chance to compete and haven’t. And still have to watch and watch and watch. Has to be tough on those kids. They are also tigers! That’s who I’m bummed for!

Yes, this is why McBride left. That kid was a player. He was mobile too. I'm sure he saw that he wasn't going to play ahead of BW, no matter what.

Was that because he couldn't beat out BW running this offense?

Yes of course. BW is the #1 and McBride was 2, Adair was #3. But some are now saying lets give #2 a shot. Well our real #2 left for Texas State. MN is not going to go to the guy that was #3 just 6 weeks ago. JMO.

We had 2 QBs transfer last year so Brady McBride may have been 4th string, and Adair 5th String...who knows.

One thing we do know is that we have a terrible group of QBs OR Norvell is playing favorites at QB

(10-14-2019 06:53 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 02:36 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:50 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:33 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 08:21 AM)shirley temple Wrote:  Glad you said this , I agree; bummed for Brady, we all wanted him to succeed. But we can’t just feel for him, think of the other scholarship quarterbacks on our team, feel bummed for them too. Regardless of how good or not they are, they were recruited here and I’m sure told they would have a chance to compete and haven’t. And still have to watch and watch and watch. Has to be tough on those kids. They are also tigers! That’s who I’m bummed for!

Yes, this is why McBride left. That kid was a player. He was mobile too. I'm sure he saw that he wasn't going to play ahead of BW, no matter what.

Was that because he couldn't beat out BW running this offense?

Yes of course. BW is the #1 and McBride was 2, Adair was #3. But some are now saying lets give #2 a shot. Well our real #2 left for Texas State. MN is not going to go to the guy that was #3 just 6 weeks ago. JMO.

We had 2 QBs transfer last year so Brady McBride may have been 4th string, and Adair 5th String...who knows.

One thing we do know is that we have a terrible group of QBs OR Norvell is playing favorites at QB

Do you really believe that? White needs to work on protecting the ball but is not a bad quarterback.

(10-14-2019 08:26 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 06:53 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 02:36 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:50 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:33 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  Yes, this is why McBride left. That kid was a player. He was mobile too. I'm sure he saw that he wasn't going to play ahead of BW, no matter what.

Was that because he couldn't beat out BW running this offense?

Yes of course. BW is the #1 and McBride was 2, Adair was #3. But some are now saying lets give #2 a shot. Well our real #2 left for Texas State. MN is not going to go to the guy that was #3 just 6 weeks ago. JMO.

We had 2 QBs transfer last year so Brady McBride may have been 4th string, and Adair 5th String...who knows.

One thing we do know is that we have a terrible group of QBs OR Norvell is playing favorites at QB

Do you really believe that? White needs to work on protecting the ball but is not a bad quarterback.

White is an average G-5 QB at best. He is not even being challenged for the starting spot, either they are not very good or there is not an open competition for QB... I hope improves and everyone like me who says White is average at best is proven wrong, there is not much hope that we will be.

The good news is that his being an average QB is good enough for us to beat most teams, even Temple. White payed one his worst games ever and was one horrific call away from a shot at a winning FG at worst.

(10-14-2019 08:35 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 08:26 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 06:53 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 02:36 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 10:50 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  Was that because he couldn't beat out BW running this offense?

Yes of course. BW is the #1 and McBride was 2, Adair was #3. But some are now saying lets give #2 a shot. Well our real #2 left for Texas State. MN is not going to go to the guy that was #3 just 6 weeks ago. JMO.

We had 2 QBs transfer last year so Brady McBride may have been 4th string, and Adair 5th String...who knows.

One thing we do know is that we have a terrible group of QBs OR Norvell is playing favorites at QB

Do you really believe that? White needs to work on protecting the ball but is not a bad quarterback.

White is an average G-5 QB at best. He is not even being challenged for the starting spot, either they are not very good or there is not an open competition for QB... I hope improves and everyone like me who says White is average at best is proven wrong, there is not much hope that we will be.

The good news is that his being an average QB is good enough for us to beat most teams, even Temple. White payed one his worst games ever and was one horrific call away from a shot at a winning FG at worst.

He threw for 376 yards. The lob Interception the defender was holding Coxie and then pushed off to intercept the pass. Worse call other than the reversal.