(09-26-2019 05:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 03:08 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  D'Eriq King quit on his team, period. No one will ever convince me otherwise I have coached a lot of football, and seen a lot of quitters. True teammates stick in there with their brothers, through thick and thin, in good times and in bad, period. You mean to tell me he put blood, sweat, and tears into the team, through camp, and through 4 games, battling with his brothers, and now wants to quit. This is, by pure definition, a QUITTER. I don't care the reason. True brothers don't quit on each other, no matter how the season is going. I don't care what any Houston fan says to try to smooth this over. D'Eriq King is a quitter, plain and simple. He quit on his brothers, who have been sweating and battling this year, and for this year's team. The end.

i frankly dont care about any of ya'll opinion on this ....like 6 players are saying te same thing happened publicly on their own account...but you swear you know what happened havent never met anyone involved...thats your purgative

here is d'eriq kings presser




he makes it very clear this whole thing was never in his thought process, the mentality was just trying to improve the season.... dana then pulled the king and a ton of other players aside and talked to them about the possibility of redshirting but that they had to make the decision, he wasnt going to force them

this wasnt a secret meeting that they made up, this was in front of tons of witnesses ..corbin references this meeting....dana himself references this meeting...dana notes there are also other players that might join but wont give names

BullsFanInTX i belive in your psychic powers to know all things normally..but today i dont care

Don't care. What level of football have you played/coached. Have you ever been in there bleeding with your brothers day after day, sweating drops of blood with them. You don't quit on your brothers period. I don't care what the reason is. Anyone who has every played/coached at any decent level knows this by heart.

QUITTER.

(09-26-2019 08:56 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 05:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 03:08 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  D'Eriq King quit on his team, period. No one will ever convince me otherwise I have coached a lot of football, and seen a lot of quitters. True teammates stick in there with their brothers, through thick and thin, in good times and in bad, period. You mean to tell me he put blood, sweat, and tears into the team, through camp, and through 4 games, battling with his brothers, and now wants to quit. This is, by pure definition, a QUITTER. I don't care the reason. True brothers don't quit on each other, no matter how the season is going. I don't care what any Houston fan says to try to smooth this over. D'Eriq King is a quitter, plain and simple. He quit on his brothers, who have been sweating and battling this year, and for this year's team. The end.

i frankly dont care about any of ya'll opinion on this ....like 6 players are saying te same thing happened publicly on their own account...but you swear you know what happened havent never met anyone involved...thats your purgative

here is d'eriq kings presser




he makes it very clear this whole thing was never in his thought process, the mentality was just trying to improve the season.... dana then pulled the king and a ton of other players aside and talked to them about the possibility of redshirting but that they had to make the decision, he wasnt going to force them

this wasnt a secret meeting that they made up, this was in front of tons of witnesses ..corbin references this meeting....dana himself references this meeting...dana notes there are also other players that might join but wont give names

BullsFanInTX i belive in your psychic powers to know all things normally..but today i dont care

Don't care. What level of football have you played/coached. Have you ever been in there bleeding with your brothers day after day, sweating drops of blood with them. You don't quit on your brothers period. I don't care what the reason is. Anyone who has every played/coached at any decent level knows this by heart.

QUITTER.

ive played and coached basketball in High school (as an assistant)....the school i coached in was small, so coaches intermingled between sports, so i coached the football team especially in the offseason weight training..and ps my HS bball team was undefeated till the semi-finals of state in one of my years coaching, for your "decent" comment

you on the other hand probably have never coached a day in your life.. this is a life changing decision for king, he has draft potential but he will not get drafted if he leaves this year..youd sacrifice a player you supoosedly cared about for a 1-3 season in a coaching transiton year???? absurd.. and if you say you would..you dont deserve to be a coach, if thats not atleast a thought process with this new rule

your whole post is weird...most of our team has come out in support of king decision...king said he talked to the team about it...its not just king, atleast 4 other players are doing so aswell
--- there s is a "love you bro" thread of players right now from seniors to king and vics versa right now


a take from espn that i found profound... this is drastically better than players who quit on the team to prepare for the nfl draft...which is almost guaranteed for every 1st round not in the playoffs, in todays game..

he has promised to come back and make the team special next season, a season that probably wouldnt have been without him

(09-26-2019 09:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 08:56 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 05:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 03:08 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  D'Eriq King quit on his team, period. No one will ever convince me otherwise I have coached a lot of football, and seen a lot of quitters. True teammates stick in there with their brothers, through thick and thin, in good times and in bad, period. You mean to tell me he put blood, sweat, and tears into the team, through camp, and through 4 games, battling with his brothers, and now wants to quit. This is, by pure definition, a QUITTER. I don't care the reason. True brothers don't quit on each other, no matter how the season is going. I don't care what any Houston fan says to try to smooth this over. D'Eriq King is a quitter, plain and simple. He quit on his brothers, who have been sweating and battling this year, and for this year's team. The end.

i frankly dont care about any of ya'll opinion on this ....like 6 players are saying te same thing happened publicly on their own account...but you swear you know what happened havent never met anyone involved...thats your purgative

here is d'eriq kings presser




he makes it very clear this whole thing was never in his thought process, the mentality was just trying to improve the season.... dana then pulled the king and a ton of other players aside and talked to them about the possibility of redshirting but that they had to make the decision, he wasnt going to force them

this wasnt a secret meeting that they made up, this was in front of tons of witnesses ..corbin references this meeting....dana himself references this meeting...dana notes there are also other players that might join but wont give names

BullsFanInTX i belive in your psychic powers to know all things normally..but today i dont care

Don't care. What level of football have you played/coached. Have you ever been in there bleeding with your brothers day after day, sweating drops of blood with them. You don't quit on your brothers period. I don't care what the reason is. Anyone who has every played/coached at any decent level knows this by heart.

QUITTER.

ive played and coached basketball in High school (as an assistant)....the school i coached in was small, so coaches intermingled between sports, so i coached the football team especially in the offseason weight training..and ps my HS bball team was undefeated till the semi-finals of state in one of my years coaching, for your "decent" comment

you on the other hand probably have never coached a day in your life.. this is a life changing decision for king, he has draft potential but he will not get drafted if he leaves this year..youd sacrifice a player you supoosedly cared about for a 1-3 season in a coaching transiton year???? absurd.. and if you say you would..you dont deserve to be a coach, if thats not atleast a thought process with this new rule

your whole post is weird...most of our team has come out in support of king decision...king said he talked to the team about it...its not just king, atleast 4 other players are doing so aswell
--- there s is a "love you bro" thread of players right now from seniors to king and vics versa right now


a take from espn that i found profound... this is drastically better than players who quit on the team to prepare for the nfl draft...which is almost guaranteed for every 1st round not in the playoffs, in todays game..

he has promised to come back and make the team special next season, a season that probably wouldnt have been without him

I've been coaching high school football, basketball, and track for the past 10 years at 2 San Antonio area schools. If you're interested in the names of them, send me a message and I will give you the website so you can see my name on them. I just got out of practice a couple hours ago where my guys put in great work. One of my best players injured his knee and is itching to get back out there with his teammates.

Never have I seen a perfectly healthy player quit on their team midway through the season, when perfectly capable of helping their teammates.

If he was injured, then my answer may be different. I will admit I don't know anything about King's health.

(09-26-2019 09:43 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 09:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 08:56 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 05:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 03:08 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  D'Eriq King quit on his team, period. No one will ever convince me otherwise I have coached a lot of football, and seen a lot of quitters. True teammates stick in there with their brothers, through thick and thin, in good times and in bad, period. You mean to tell me he put blood, sweat, and tears into the team, through camp, and through 4 games, battling with his brothers, and now wants to quit. This is, by pure definition, a QUITTER. I don't care the reason. True brothers don't quit on each other, no matter how the season is going. I don't care what any Houston fan says to try to smooth this over. D'Eriq King is a quitter, plain and simple. He quit on his brothers, who have been sweating and battling this year, and for this year's team. The end.

i frankly dont care about any of ya'll opinion on this ....like 6 players are saying te same thing happened publicly on their own account...but you swear you know what happened havent never met anyone involved...thats your purgative

here is d'eriq kings presser




he makes it very clear this whole thing was never in his thought process, the mentality was just trying to improve the season.... dana then pulled the king and a ton of other players aside and talked to them about the possibility of redshirting but that they had to make the decision, he wasnt going to force them

this wasnt a secret meeting that they made up, this was in front of tons of witnesses ..corbin references this meeting....dana himself references this meeting...dana notes there are also other players that might join but wont give names

BullsFanInTX i belive in your psychic powers to know all things normally..but today i dont care

Don't care. What level of football have you played/coached. Have you ever been in there bleeding with your brothers day after day, sweating drops of blood with them. You don't quit on your brothers period. I don't care what the reason is. Anyone who has every played/coached at any decent level knows this by heart.

QUITTER.

ive played and coached basketball in High school (as an assistant)....the school i coached in was small, so coaches intermingled between sports, so i coached the football team especially in the offseason weight training..and ps my HS bball team was undefeated till the semi-finals of state in one of my years coaching, for your "decent" comment

you on the other hand probably have never coached a day in your life.. this is a life changing decision for king, he has draft potential but he will not get drafted if he leaves this year..youd sacrifice a player you supoosedly cared about for a 1-3 season in a coaching transiton year???? absurd.. and if you say you would..you dont deserve to be a coach, if thats not atleast a thought process with this new rule

your whole post is weird...most of our team has come out in support of king decision...king said he talked to the team about it...its not just king, atleast 4 other players are doing so aswell
--- there s is a "love you bro" thread of players right now from seniors to king and vics versa right now


a take from espn that i found profound... this is drastically better than players who quit on the team to prepare for the nfl draft...which is almost guaranteed for every 1st round not in the playoffs, in todays game..

he has promised to come back and make the team special next season, a season that probably wouldnt have been without him

I've been coaching high school football, basketball, and track for the past 10 years at 2 San Antonio area schools. If you're interested in the names of them, send me a message and I will give you the website so you can see my name on them. I just got out of practice a couple hours ago where my guys put in great work. One of my best players injured his knee and is itching to get back out there with his teammates.

Never have I seen a perfectly healthy player quit on their team midway through the season, when perfectly capable of helping their teammates.

If he was injured, then my answer may be different. I will admit I don't know anything about King's health.

Both players that are sitting out both said they hadn’t even considered it until dana laid it out and I’m thinking dana is using this as a springboard to right the ship.

Different world out there, we teach kids to protect themselfes now
100 grown men on that team with 100 different gameplans
Yeah FB was fun, get education & set yourself up

Btw, when the last time you see OF run into the wall
They stop now when they hit warning track

(09-26-2019 08:28 PM)vick mike Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 05:35 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  If I am Fritz at Tulane, I use this event as a stick that I can abuse UH with on the recruiting trail.

Actions have consequences.

Fritz to recruits: Tulane is so badass we beat Houston’s season.

Correct

(09-26-2019 05:35 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  If I am Fritz at Tulane, I use this event as a stick that I can abuse UH with on the recruiting trail.

Actions have consequences.

I hope we play them early in the season again next year, we can help them get older again :)

(09-26-2019 07:42 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 05:43 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Talked to a friend in Houston. He is gonna red shirt his girlfriend. Training program, diet, put some work in. Thinks next year can be special.

I think he's a pig but to each his own.

ok

Dang... tough crowd. I thought that was pretty funny.

(09-26-2019 09:43 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 09:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 08:56 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 05:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 03:08 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  D'Eriq King quit on his team, period. No one will ever convince me otherwise I have coached a lot of football, and seen a lot of quitters. True teammates stick in there with their brothers, through thick and thin, in good times and in bad, period. You mean to tell me he put blood, sweat, and tears into the team, through camp, and through 4 games, battling with his brothers, and now wants to quit. This is, by pure definition, a QUITTER. I don't care the reason. True brothers don't quit on each other, no matter how the season is going. I don't care what any Houston fan says to try to smooth this over. D'Eriq King is a quitter, plain and simple. He quit on his brothers, who have been sweating and battling this year, and for this year's team. The end.

i frankly dont care about any of ya'll opinion on this ....like 6 players are saying te same thing happened publicly on their own account...but you swear you know what happened havent never met anyone involved...thats your purgative

here is d'eriq kings presser




he makes it very clear this whole thing was never in his thought process, the mentality was just trying to improve the season.... dana then pulled the king and a ton of other players aside and talked to them about the possibility of redshirting but that they had to make the decision, he wasnt going to force them

this wasnt a secret meeting that they made up, this was in front of tons of witnesses ..corbin references this meeting....dana himself references this meeting...dana notes there are also other players that might join but wont give names

BullsFanInTX i belive in your psychic powers to know all things normally..but today i dont care

Don't care. What level of football have you played/coached. Have you ever been in there bleeding with your brothers day after day, sweating drops of blood with them. You don't quit on your brothers period. I don't care what the reason is. Anyone who has every played/coached at any decent level knows this by heart.

QUITTER.

ive played and coached basketball in High school (as an assistant)....the school i coached in was small, so coaches intermingled between sports, so i coached the football team especially in the offseason weight training..and ps my HS bball team was undefeated till the semi-finals of state in one of my years coaching, for your "decent" comment

you on the other hand probably have never coached a day in your life.. this is a life changing decision for king, he has draft potential but he will not get drafted if he leaves this year..youd sacrifice a player you supoosedly cared about for a 1-3 season in a coaching transiton year???? absurd.. and if you say you would..you dont deserve to be a coach, if thats not atleast a thought process with this new rule

your whole post is weird...most of our team has come out in support of king decision...king said he talked to the team about it...its not just king, atleast 4 other players are doing so aswell
--- there s is a "love you bro" thread of players right now from seniors to king and vics versa right now


a take from espn that i found profound... this is drastically better than players who quit on the team to prepare for the nfl draft...which is almost guaranteed for every 1st round not in the playoffs, in todays game..

he has promised to come back and make the team special next season, a season that probably wouldnt have been without him

I've been coaching high school football, basketball, and track for the past 10 years at 2 San Antonio area schools. If you're interested in the names of them, send me a message and I will give you the website so you can see my name on them. I just got out of practice a couple hours ago where my guys put in great work. One of my best players injured his knee and is itching to get back out there with his teammates.

Never have I seen a perfectly healthy player quit on their team midway through the season, when perfectly capable of helping their teammates.

If he was injured, then my answer may be different. I will admit I don't know anything about King's health.

I doubt either of you guys has coached someone that is a year or two away from making millions if he just stays healthy.

(09-24-2019 03:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  houston presser happening right now:

clayton tune has been announced as the starter

Dana Holgorsen says he and a bunch of the players including king had discussed the possibility of it over the weekend after tulane loss..but said he wasnt the one making the decision...{looks like he was the seed, but players had to be the ones to decide}

thinks its smart to do this....says its cool that player were willing to extended their college stay..not very common among kids today.. team is likely a year away from competing for a championship

Holgorsen said he expects King to be UH’s starter next season.

said its not done, expects to talk to a few other players about it

Holgorsen said NCAA is probably upset with him because this wasn’t intent of new redshirt rule.

I certainly don't think it's cool what King did. But as I have been saying, people need to understand that these young men are trying to make a career like anyone else. We tend to turn football players into objects that we think should act the way we expect them to so we can satisfy our own desires.

Seriously, how many people in the United States this year have quit a lower paying job for a much higher paying job? How many people have quit a job for better benefits? How many people have quit a job for a better schedule or less stress? I have seen people working at a job for six years and then say "Bye Felecia!" for as little as $5000.00 more a year.

King was one of the greatest high school players ever in his state. King has the potential to make more money in 4 years than a Doctor will in his/her entire career. But that potential means nothing if he isn't able to compete at a high level which he will not be able to this season.

If it were one of our players I would be disappointing. However, I would still say do whats best for you.

(09-26-2019 09:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  your whole post is weird...most of our team has come out in support of king decision...king said he talked to the team about it...its not just king, atleast 4 other players are doing so aswell
--- there s is a "love you bro" thread of players right now from seniors to king and vics versa right now


a take from espn that i found profound... this is drastically better than players who quit on the team to prepare for the nfl draft...which is almost guaranteed for every 1st round not in the playoffs, in todays game..

he has promised to come back and make the team special next season, a season that probably wouldnt have been without him

Which four? They would probably have to be seniors, and probably have to be of some value, so Braylon and Josh Jones? Williams? Lark? Fleming?

Look, let's just say I respectfully disagree with ESPN, and their take on it isn't that profound. It's quitting, regardless. Quitting on the coaches, teammates who are seniors, and those who have to go out and slug it out, but, hey, we'll see how they respond.

Some, like the ones who will now get to start, will probably be fine with the decision. Others, who are already starting and are looking at the possibility of a lesser year - maybe not so much. I mean, let's see what happens to team morale if you get a few injuries - things may go south in a hurry.

I understand people redshirt, that there are rebuilding years, and so on. That's life, that's college athletics. I still say this is a backhanded way to do it, and that not only is bad for college football no matter who is doing it - Houston, SMU, whomever - it may come back to bite you in the rear next year as well.

We'll see.

(09-27-2019 09:52 AM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 09:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  your whole post is weird...most of our team has come out in support of king decision...king said he talked to the team about it...its not just king, atleast 4 other players are doing so aswell
--- there s is a "love you bro" thread of players right now from seniors to king and vics versa right now


a take from espn that i found profound... this is drastically better than players who quit on the team to prepare for the nfl draft...which is almost guaranteed for every 1st round not in the playoffs, in todays game..

he has promised to come back and make the team special next season, a season that probably wouldnt have been without him

Which four? They would probably have to be seniors, and probably have to be of some value, so Braylon and Josh Jones? Williams? Lark? Fleming?

Look, let's just say I respectfully disagree with ESPN, and their take on it isn't that profound. It's quitting, regardless. Quitting on the coaches, teammates who are seniors, and those who have to go out and slug it out, but, hey, we'll see how they respond.

Some, like the ones who will now get to start, will probably be fine with the decision. Others, who are already starting and are looking at the possibility of a lesser year - maybe not so much. I mean, let's see what happens to team morale if you get a few injuries - things may go south in a hurry.

I understand people redshirt, that there are rebuilding years, and so on. That's life, that's college athletics. I still say this is a backhanded way to do it, and that not only is bad for college football no matter who is doing it - Houston, SMU, whomever - it may come back to bite you in the rear next year as well.

We'll see.

mulbah, braylon, lark, corbin...those 4 for now..could be more

quiting on the the coaches?? the coaches encouraged it... stop it ... if thats your point after all the convo we've had the last 3 days , you were never going to accept logic

the team would not have been top level good without him nextyear...
players quit before bowls, good players regularly give on their team and transfer to better teams ..this move in the bigger picture benefits the team.. it is year 1 of a coaching transition and we are 1-3

you guys are obsessed with trying to find a way to make this bad

To me it's funny how a few of these Houston fans say they really don't care what anyone thinks, but has a rebuttal on every post that's disagreeing with this chicken $h!t move that Houston's coach and and King, amongst some other players are making. I don't like how things are going, so I'm gonna take my ball and go home. I've lost all respect for that school, their coach and any player agreeing to this.

(09-27-2019 10:14 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(09-27-2019 10:23 AM)wylioats Wrote:  To me it's funny how a few of these Houston fans say they really don't care what anyone thinks, but has a rebuttal on every post that's disagreeing with this chicken $h!t move that Houston's coach and and King, amongst some other players are making. I don't like how things are going, so I'm gonna take my ball and go home. I've lost all respect for that school, their coach and any player agreeing to this.

we dont care about the opinion of those spreading misinformation and created an obsession with their narrative, i'm correcting them for the people who arent sure whats going on and might believe the misinformation


funny enough, it the fans of the 2 teams in our conference that have a reputations of cheating that are most obsessed with the ethical aspects of this ..... something perfectly within the rules, on the transition year of a coach

(09-27-2019 10:30 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-27-2019 10:23 AM)wylioats Wrote:  To me it's funny how a few of these Houston fans say they really don't care what anyone thinks, but has a rebuttal on every post that's disagreeing with this chicken $h!t move that Houston's coach and and King, amongst some other players are making. I don't like how things are going, so I'm gonna take my ball and go home. I've lost all respect for that school, their coach and any player agreeing to this.

we dont care about the opinion of those spreading misinformation and created an obsession with their narrative, i'm correcting them for the people who arent sure whats going on and might believe the misinformation


funny enough, it the fans of the 2 teams in our conference that have a reputations of cheating that are most obsessed with the ethical aspects of this ..... something perfectly within the rules, on the transition year of a coach

Right on que.

(09-27-2019 10:30 AM)pesik Wrote:  funny enough, it the fans of the 2 teams in our conference that have a reputations of cheating that are most obsessed with the ethical aspects of this ..... something perfectly within the rules, on the transition year of a coach

lol I know right?! The fact that my future university was giving kids cars while I was in 2nd grade means that I'm a hypocrite when I see a potentially (or obviously) moral grey area conducted by another university! it IS funny....

(09-27-2019 11:33 AM)SMUleopold Wrote:  

(09-27-2019 10:30 AM)pesik Wrote:  funny enough, it the fans of the 2 teams in our conference that have a reputations of cheating that are most obsessed with the ethical aspects of this ..... something perfectly within the rules, on the transition year of a coach

lol I know right?! The fact that my future university was giving kids cars while I was in 2nd grade means that I'm a hypocrite when I see a potentially (or obviously) moral grey area conducted by another university! it IS funny....

the biggest basketball scholarship sanction EVER was just handed out 5years ago, BIGGEST in the history of the 120 year game....and im curious which school was given that ....curious what grade you were in then

(09-27-2019 11:40 AM)pesik Wrote:  the biggest basketball scholarship sanction EVER was just handed out 5years ago, BIGGEST in the history of the 120 year game....and im curious which school was given that ....curious what grade you were in then

Right! Because that's relevant, too!!

Ahhhhh
you gotta love internet argument logic

But seriously, we'll see how this ends. The very best of luck to the 'cougs the rest of the season.