(09-23-2019 08:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 01:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 03:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Exactly, because as you know, whatever the hell happens to Comey, my life and yours won't change one iota.

It should. If we can move back to a politically neutral justice system it improves life for all of us, left, middle, or right. Lost in this partisan shuffle is the fact that the Deep State threatens us all as it can be used as readily for evil by the right as it has been used for evil by the left.

I heard something over the weekend and it pretty much rings true in all cases. Whenever you hear or see the phrase "Deep State," substitute "Rule of Law" instead.

They're closet to antonyms than synonyms. The Deep State totally ignores the Rule of Law. They are their own law.

If there was truly a "Deep State," then yes, but there isn't. It's just another trumpist deflection.

I'm guessing you haven't spent much time around Washington. Career bureaucrats are truly scary people.

(09-23-2019 08:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 01:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 03:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Exactly, because as you know, whatever the hell happens to Comey, my life and yours won't change one iota.

It should. If we can move back to a politically neutral justice system it improves life for all of us, left, middle, or right. Lost in this partisan shuffle is the fact that the Deep State threatens us all as it can be used as readily for evil by the right as it has been used for evil by the left.

I heard something over the weekend and it pretty much rings true in all cases. Whenever you hear or see the phrase "Deep State," substitute "Rule of Law" instead.

They're closet to antonyms than synonyms. The Deep State totally ignores the Rule of Law. They are their own law.

If there was truly a "Deep State," then yes, but there isn't. It's just another trumpist deflection.

you write some silly pander...this may be ewe'r finest...

(09-23-2019 08:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 01:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 03:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 02:45 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 02:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Should we buckle up yet?

It wont help.

Exactly, because as you know, whatever the hell happens to Comey, my life and yours won't change one iota.

It should. If we can move back to a politically neutral justice system it improves life for all of us, left, middle, or right. Lost in this partisan shuffle is the fact that the Deep State threatens us all as it can be used as readily for evil by the right as it has been used for evil by the left.

I heard something over the weekend and it pretty much rings true in all cases. Whenever you hear or see the phrase "Deep State," substitute "Rule of Law" instead.

You said the same thing about deductibles and co-pays at one time. Does that still ring true?

(09-23-2019 08:47 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 01:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  It should. If we can move back to a politically neutral justice system it improves life for all of us, left, middle, or right. Lost in this partisan shuffle is the fact that the Deep State threatens us all as it can be used as readily for evil by the right as it has been used for evil by the left.

I heard something over the weekend and it pretty much rings true in all cases. Whenever you hear or see the phrase "Deep State," substitute "Rule of Law" instead.

They're closet to antonyms than synonyms. The Deep State totally ignores the Rule of Law. They are their own law.

If there was truly a "Deep State," then yes, but there isn't. It's just another trumpist deflection.

I'm guessing you haven't spent much time around Washington. Career bureaucrats are truly scary people.

I'm sure there is good on both sides, govt and civilian, and many are very fine people.

(09-23-2019 10:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:47 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I heard something over the weekend and it pretty much rings true in all cases. Whenever you hear or see the phrase "Deep State," substitute "Rule of Law" instead.

They're closet to antonyms than synonyms. The Deep State totally ignores the Rule of Law. They are their own law.

If there was truly a "Deep State," then yes, but there isn't. It's just another trumpist deflection.

I'm guessing you haven't spent much time around Washington. Career bureaucrats are truly scary people.

I'm sure there is good on both sides, govt and civilian, and many are very fine people.

he's talking about lifers being groomed...

#keepmeonignore

(09-23-2019 10:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:47 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I heard something over the weekend and it pretty much rings true in all cases. Whenever you hear or see the phrase "Deep State," substitute "Rule of Law" instead.

They're closet to antonyms than synonyms. The Deep State totally ignores the Rule of Law. They are their own law.

If there was truly a "Deep State," then yes, but there isn't. It's just another trumpist deflection.

I'm guessing you haven't spent much time around Washington. Career bureaucrats are truly scary people.

I'm sure there is good on both sides, govt and civilian, and many are very fine people.

There are way to many people who went to Washington to do good, and stayed to do well, either as bureaucrats or contractors. Yes, there are good people on both sides. But there are way, way too many bad ones. And they have way, way too much unchecked power to ruin our lives.

(09-23-2019 12:18 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 10:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:47 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  They're closet to antonyms than synonyms. The Deep State totally ignores the Rule of Law. They are their own law.

If there was truly a "Deep State," then yes, but there isn't. It's just another trumpist deflection.

I'm guessing you haven't spent much time around Washington. Career bureaucrats are truly scary people.

I'm sure there is good on both sides, govt and civilian, and many are very fine people.

There are way to many people who went to Washington to do good, and stayed to do well, either as bureaucrats or contractors. Yes, there are good people on both sides. But there are way, way too many bad ones. And they have way, way too much unchecked power to ruin our lives.

And without a truly neutral DOJ and FBI it really does become impossible to root out corrupt bureaucrats. It's virtually impossible now, but when law enforcement becomes part of that entrenchment we all get hosed!

(09-23-2019 01:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 12:18 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 10:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:47 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  If there was truly a "Deep State," then yes, but there isn't. It's just another trumpist deflection.

I'm guessing you haven't spent much time around Washington. Career bureaucrats are truly scary people.

I'm sure there is good on both sides, govt and civilian, and many are very fine people.

There are way to many people who went to Washington to do good, and stayed to do well, either as bureaucrats or contractors. Yes, there are good people on both sides. But there are way, way too many bad ones. And they have way, way too much unchecked power to ruin our lives.

And without a truly neutral DOJ and FBI it really does become impossible to root out corrupt bureaucrats. It's virtually impossible now, but when law enforcement becomes part of that entrenchment we all get hosed!

This sentiment that you guys have let trump convince you of is just downright frightening. SMH

I guess maybe you think these guys should not have any political opinions, but they've always had and always will. Doesn't mean they by and large don't do their jobs fairly. Not to mention, like the military, they more often than not lean to the right.

(09-23-2019 03:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 01:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 12:18 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 10:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:47 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I'm guessing you haven't spent much time around Washington. Career bureaucrats are truly scary people.

I'm sure there is good on both sides, govt and civilian, and many are very fine people.

There are way to many people who went to Washington to do good, and stayed to do well, either as bureaucrats or contractors. Yes, there are good people on both sides. But there are way, way too many bad ones. And they have way, way too much unchecked power to ruin our lives.

And without a truly neutral DOJ and FBI it really does become impossible to root out corrupt bureaucrats. It's virtually impossible now, but when law enforcement becomes part of that entrenchment we all get hosed!

This sentiment that you guys have let trump convince you of is just downright frightening. SMH

I guess maybe you think these guys should not have any political opinions, but they've always had and always will. Doesn't mean they by and large don't do their jobs fairly. Not to mention, like the military, they more often than night lean to the right.

That we have among us people who are so hostile to love of country, so hell bent to destroy our constitutional liberties, and who so openly espouse this nonsense isn't just frightening to me, but represent self declared adversaries to our way of life and are just begging to be dealt with. I have the same reaction to those who justify the illegal actions of the FBI and DOJ in trying to foment a soft coup de tat against a duly elected president. In fact I would call such speech and action treasonous.

(09-23-2019 03:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 01:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 12:18 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 10:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:47 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I'm guessing you haven't spent much time around Washington. Career bureaucrats are truly scary people.

I'm sure there is good on both sides, govt and civilian, and many are very fine people.

There are way to many people who went to Washington to do good, and stayed to do well, either as bureaucrats or contractors. Yes, there are good people on both sides. But there are way, way too many bad ones. And they have way, way too much unchecked power to ruin our lives.

And without a truly neutral DOJ and FBI it really does become impossible to root out corrupt bureaucrats. It's virtually impossible now, but when law enforcement becomes part of that entrenchment we all get hosed!

This sentiment that you guys have let trump convince you of is just downright frightening. SMH
I guess maybe you think these guys should not have any political opinions, but they've always had and always will. Doesn't mean they by and large don't do their jobs fairly. Not to mention, like the military, they more often than night lean to the right.

Serious question.

Do you truly believe that the likes of Comey, Strzok, Page, “Andy,” Clapper, and Brennan did their jobs fairly without political bias?

I don’t, just wondering if you do.

(09-23-2019 03:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 03:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 01:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 12:18 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 10:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I'm sure there is good on both sides, govt and civilian, and many are very fine people.

There are way to many people who went to Washington to do good, and stayed to do well, either as bureaucrats or contractors. Yes, there are good people on both sides. But there are way, way too many bad ones. And they have way, way too much unchecked power to ruin our lives.

And without a truly neutral DOJ and FBI it really does become impossible to root out corrupt bureaucrats. It's virtually impossible now, but when law enforcement becomes part of that entrenchment we all get hosed!

This sentiment that you guys have let trump convince you of is just downright frightening. SMH

I guess maybe you think these guys should not have any political opinions, but they've always had and always will. Doesn't mean they by and large don't do their jobs fairly. Not to mention, like the military, they more often than night lean to the right.

That we have among us people who are so hostile to love of country, so hell bent to destroy our constitutional liberties, and who so openly espouse this nonsense isn't just frightening to me, but represent self declared adversaries to our way of life and are just begging to be dealt with. I have the same reaction to those who justify the illegal actions of the FBI and DOJ in trying to foment a soft coup de tat against a duly elected president. In fact I would call such speech and action treasonous.

Totally agree!

Wait...you're not talking about the trump administration. My bad.

(09-24-2019 08:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 03:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 03:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 01:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 12:18 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  There are way to many people who went to Washington to do good, and stayed to do well, either as bureaucrats or contractors. Yes, there are good people on both sides. But there are way, way too many bad ones. And they have way, way too much unchecked power to ruin our lives.

And without a truly neutral DOJ and FBI it really does become impossible to root out corrupt bureaucrats. It's virtually impossible now, but when law enforcement becomes part of that entrenchment we all get hosed!

This sentiment that you guys have let trump convince you of is just downright frightening. SMH

I guess maybe you think these guys should not have any political opinions, but they've always had and always will. Doesn't mean they by and large don't do their jobs fairly. Not to mention, like the military, they more often than night lean to the right.

That we have among us people who are so hostile to love of country, so hell bent to destroy our constitutional liberties, and who so openly espouse this nonsense isn't just frightening to me, but represent self declared adversaries to our way of life and are just begging to be dealt with. I have the same reaction to those who justify the illegal actions of the FBI and DOJ in trying to foment a soft coup de tat against a duly elected president. In fact I would call such speech and action treasonous.

Totally agree!

Wait...you're not talking about the trump administration. My bad.

You've openly supported this coup attempt from day one. Of course you're a fan of those leading it.

(09-19-2019 04:36 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 03:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 02:45 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 02:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Should we buckle up yet?

It wont help.

Exactly, because as you know, whatever the hell happens to Comey, my life and yours won't change one iota.

Is that really the point?

It is now that the worm is turning.....

(09-22-2019 08:23 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 06:28 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 03:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 03:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 02:45 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  It wont help.

Exactly, because as you know, whatever the hell happens to Comey, my life and yours won't change one iota.

I disagree, my comfort level with our justice system will rise significantly if he's brought to justice.

Mccabe is the fall guy

Gummy, stork and ohr buried him.

Comey’s only out, “my jr staff told me it was all verified”. It will fly unless there is written evidence that he was warned about the dossier. Should not fly anyway since spying on a presidential candidate by a different parties appointees should be a very very very serious endeavor.

(09-23-2019 10:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:47 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I heard something over the weekend and it pretty much rings true in all cases. Whenever you hear or see the phrase "Deep State," substitute "Rule of Law" instead.

They're closet to antonyms than synonyms. The Deep State totally ignores the Rule of Law. They are their own law.

If there was truly a "Deep State," then yes, but there isn't. It's just another trumpist deflection.

I'm guessing you haven't spent much time around Washington. Career bureaucrats are truly scary people.

I'm sure there is good on both sides, govt and civilian, and many are very fine people.

I’m assuming that the ones spying on our president and leaking tidbits of miss information to the media to derail the president are “very fine people”. THEY are the deep state. It does exist.

whoever didnt see this coming is defined by line 4....

ol' boy set this table long ago...

hell, I beat DJT to "witch hunt"...