(08-30-2019 12:39 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 11:01 AM)cmt Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 10:54 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 09:21 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 04:59 AM)Dynamos Wrote:  Yeah how is he a piece of ****?

How is going overseas better than one year in college? The kid is going to be a gazillionaire at 19 instead of 18 if he goes to college. I think Hampton made a bad move. Why is he lobbying for Jalen Green anyway.

Besides, It feels creepy when the parent tries to cash in on their children's success by parading themselves all over the place. I still can't get over how he made everyone wine and dine him just to get attention when they had no intention on even going to college.

The whole thing just feels slimy to me.

Honestly what is he going to learn in one semester in college. Do you really feel that the college experience will affect him that much in 6 months of taking fluff classes?

But you are correct about playing with everyone when he knew what his kid was going to do ahead of time...That was messed up.

Its not about learning anything, its about exposure to the NBA folks. I know a few will use this as an excuse to spend a couple of weeks in Australia and New Zealand (I would) but you disappear overseas. Would Ja Morant be #2 pick or Zion be #1 if they had gone to Australia and Italy instead of college?

Its fair dinkem he'll still make the NBA unless he's somehow a total flop down under, but if he's a ripper, he's lost a few draft spots by going kiwi and will look like a bloody galah.

People severely overstate how much "visibility" is lost going overseas. Euroleague games often basically have as many NBA scouts present as a typical top-25 college game and many teams have relationships with european development facilities. In addition, overseas guys are routinely being drafted in the top 10 ans the guys that have gone overseas so far have basically been drafted around where they were expected to go as prospects. Add in a mid six figure payday and its not clear there is any sacrifice to going overseas

name one American player who went overseas for one year and is now a big endorser

The visibility that hurts the non-NCAA player is the public Q score not necessarily the lack of scouts seeing a player

When player plays outside the NBA or NCAA they are out of mind to the US public , therefore they are not a choice for consumer goods companies as endorsers. they may get a shoe deal but it pales in comparison to what top NCAA players going to the NBA will get.

(09-01-2019 09:47 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 12:39 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 11:01 AM)cmt Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 10:54 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 09:21 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  How is going overseas better than one year in college? The kid is going to be a gazillionaire at 19 instead of 18 if he goes to college. I think Hampton made a bad move. Why is he lobbying for Jalen Green anyway.

Besides, It feels creepy when the parent tries to cash in on their children's success by parading themselves all over the place. I still can't get over how he made everyone wine and dine him just to get attention when they had no intention on even going to college.

The whole thing just feels slimy to me.

Honestly what is he going to learn in one semester in college. Do you really feel that the college experience will affect him that much in 6 months of taking fluff classes?

But you are correct about playing with everyone when he knew what his kid was going to do ahead of time...That was messed up.

Its not about learning anything, its about exposure to the NBA folks. I know a few will use this as an excuse to spend a couple of weeks in Australia and New Zealand (I would) but you disappear overseas. Would Ja Morant be #2 pick or Zion be #1 if they had gone to Australia and Italy instead of college?

Its fair dinkem he'll still make the NBA unless he's somehow a total flop down under, but if he's a ripper, he's lost a few draft spots by going kiwi and will look like a bloody galah.

People severely overstate how much "visibility" is lost going overseas. Euroleague games often basically have as many NBA scouts present as a typical top-25 college game and many teams have relationships with european development facilities. In addition, overseas guys are routinely being drafted in the top 10 ans the guys that have gone overseas so far have basically been drafted around where they were expected to go as prospects. Add in a mid six figure payday and its not clear there is any sacrifice to going overseas

name one American player who went overseas for one year and is now a big endorser

The visibility that hurts the non-NCAA player is the public Q score not necessarily the lack of scouts seeing a player

When player plays outside the NBA or NCAA they are out of mind to the US public , therefore they are not a choice for consumer goods companies as endorsers. they may get a shoe deal but it pales in comparison to what top NCAA players going to the NBA will get.

Ehh that has nothing to do with NCAA visibility, none of them have been good. In general, rookies arent getting the huge shoe deals regardless. Only one is Zion and he had youtube videos getting millions of views before he stepped foot in college. After that the biggest are the Puma guys (bagley and ayton) and they got deals in the $2-3M per year range because Puma wanted to get in the bball game. Trae Young got less than $2M with Adidas - now compare that to Bazley who got a $1M guarantee and potential $13M in incentives out of high school with New Balance or Hampton who got a 7 figure deal with Li-Ning out of high school.

This aint 1990, the NBA and show brands find you anywhere, they have camps and affiliates around the globe.

strange how Tipton Edits had posted Jalen's official visit schedule on Twitter now it's gone. it had him visiting

Oregon (sept 13-15)
Auburn (sept 26-29)
Memphis (oct 2-5) *probably will be memphis madness
Kentucky (oct 16-19) *think this is big blue madness

Ja Morant recruiting for the Tigers

(09-01-2019 02:00 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  

(09-01-2019 09:47 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 12:39 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 11:01 AM)cmt Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 10:54 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Honestly what is he going to learn in one semester in college. Do you really feel that the college experience will affect him that much in 6 months of taking fluff classes?

But you are correct about playing with everyone when he knew what his kid was going to do ahead of time...That was messed up.

Its not about learning anything, its about exposure to the NBA folks. I know a few will use this as an excuse to spend a couple of weeks in Australia and New Zealand (I would) but you disappear overseas. Would Ja Morant be #2 pick or Zion be #1 if they had gone to Australia and Italy instead of college?

Its fair dinkem he'll still make the NBA unless he's somehow a total flop down under, but if he's a ripper, he's lost a few draft spots by going kiwi and will look like a bloody galah.

People severely overstate how much "visibility" is lost going overseas. Euroleague games often basically have as many NBA scouts present as a typical top-25 college game and many teams have relationships with european development facilities. In addition, overseas guys are routinely being drafted in the top 10 ans the guys that have gone overseas so far have basically been drafted around where they were expected to go as prospects. Add in a mid six figure payday and its not clear there is any sacrifice to going overseas

name one American player who went overseas for one year and is now a big endorser

The visibility that hurts the non-NCAA player is the public Q score not necessarily the lack of scouts seeing a player

When player plays outside the NBA or NCAA they are out of mind to the US public , therefore they are not a choice for consumer goods companies as endorsers. they may get a shoe deal but it pales in comparison to what top NCAA players going to the NBA will get.

Ehh that has nothing to do with NCAA visibility, none of them have been good. In general, rookies arent getting the huge shoe deals regardless. Only one is Zion and he had youtube videos getting millions of views before he stepped foot in college. After that the biggest are the Puma guys (bagley and ayton) and they got deals in the $2-3M per year range because Puma wanted to get in the bball game. Trae Young got less than $2M with Adidas - now compare that to Bazley who got a $1M guarantee and potential $13M in incentives out of high school with New Balance or Hampton who got a 7 figure deal with Li-Ning out of high school.

This aint 1990, the NBA and show brands find you anywhere, they have camps and affiliates around the globe.

to the General public, Zion was a nobody before the played for Duke.

Maybe he goes to Europe gets drafter in the top 3 or 4 but not #1 and not a huge shoe deal.

The NCAA tournament is the greatest show on earth. Many players have made double digit millions immediately by playing in it and being successful. Most recent is in our home city, Ja Morant. You can can debate the overseas thing all you want but going that route doesn’t give you anything close to the exposure of the Tournament.

(09-01-2019 09:47 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 12:39 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 11:01 AM)cmt Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 10:54 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 09:21 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  How is going overseas better than one year in college? The kid is going to be a gazillionaire at 19 instead of 18 if he goes to college. I think Hampton made a bad move. Why is he lobbying for Jalen Green anyway.

Besides, It feels creepy when the parent tries to cash in on their children's success by parading themselves all over the place. I still can't get over how he made everyone wine and dine him just to get attention when they had no intention on even going to college.

The whole thing just feels slimy to me.

Honestly what is he going to learn in one semester in college. Do you really feel that the college experience will affect him that much in 6 months of taking fluff classes?

But you are correct about playing with everyone when he knew what his kid was going to do ahead of time...That was messed up.

Its not about learning anything, its about exposure to the NBA folks. I know a few will use this as an excuse to spend a couple of weeks in Australia and New Zealand (I would) but you disappear overseas. Would Ja Morant be #2 pick or Zion be #1 if they had gone to Australia and Italy instead of college?

Its fair dinkem he'll still make the NBA unless he's somehow a total flop down under, but if he's a ripper, he's lost a few draft spots by going kiwi and will look like a bloody galah.

People severely overstate how much "visibility" is lost going overseas. Euroleague games often basically have as many NBA scouts present as a typical top-25 college game and many teams have relationships with european development facilities. In addition, overseas guys are routinely being drafted in the top 10 ans the guys that have gone overseas so far have basically been drafted around where they were expected to go as prospects. Add in a mid six figure payday and its not clear there is any sacrifice to going overseas

name one American player who went overseas for one year and is now a big endorser

The visibility that hurts the non-NCAA player is the public Q score not necessarily the lack of scouts seeing a player

When player plays outside the NBA or NCAA they are out of mind to the US public , therefore they are not a choice for consumer goods companies as endorsers. they may get a shoe deal but it pales in comparison to what top NCAA players going to the NBA will get.

The NBA could care less if the player goes to college or not. They make their own stars. College is a totally different game than the NBA, most scouts just hope they don't get hurt or pick up too many bad habits while they are there.

Luka was the ROY and the biggest star of last year's draft class, obviously no NCAA time. Giannis was the MVP this season, no NCAA. Need I mention Lebron or Kobe or KG and on and on?

Even lesser players like Mitchell Robinson, Anfernee Simons and this year Darius Bazley have skipped college completely and not even gone overseas, and it hasn't hurt their draft stock at all (Bazely went 23rd to the Jazz this year.)

The only reason most of the current NBA guys who went to college for a year did so was because they had to. When the rule changes in '22, they will skip in much greater numbers than people realize.

(09-02-2019 04:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(09-01-2019 09:47 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 12:39 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 11:01 AM)cmt Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 10:54 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Honestly what is he going to learn in one semester in college. Do you really feel that the college experience will affect him that much in 6 months of taking fluff classes?

But you are correct about playing with everyone when he knew what his kid was going to do ahead of time...That was messed up.

Its not about learning anything, its about exposure to the NBA folks. I know a few will use this as an excuse to spend a couple of weeks in Australia and New Zealand (I would) but you disappear overseas. Would Ja Morant be #2 pick or Zion be #1 if they had gone to Australia and Italy instead of college?

Its fair dinkem he'll still make the NBA unless he's somehow a total flop down under, but if he's a ripper, he's lost a few draft spots by going kiwi and will look like a bloody galah.

People severely overstate how much "visibility" is lost going overseas. Euroleague games often basically have as many NBA scouts present as a typical top-25 college game and many teams have relationships with european development facilities. In addition, overseas guys are routinely being drafted in the top 10 ans the guys that have gone overseas so far have basically been drafted around where they were expected to go as prospects. Add in a mid six figure payday and its not clear there is any sacrifice to going overseas

name one American player who went overseas for one year and is now a big endorser

The visibility that hurts the non-NCAA player is the public Q score not necessarily the lack of scouts seeing a player

When player plays outside the NBA or NCAA they are out of mind to the US public , therefore they are not a choice for consumer goods companies as endorsers. they may get a shoe deal but it pales in comparison to what top NCAA players going to the NBA will get.

The NBA could care less if the player goes to college or not. They make their own stars. College is a totally different game than the NBA, most scouts just hope they don't get hurt or pick up too many bad habits while they are there.

Luka was the ROY and the biggest star of last year's draft class, obviously no NCAA time. Giannis was the MVP this season, no NCAA. Need I mention Lebron or Kobe or KG and on and on?

Even lesser players like Mitchell Robinson, Anfernee Simons and this year Darius Bazley have skipped college completely and not even gone overseas, and it hasn't hurt their draft stock at all (Bazely went 23rd to the Jazz this year.)

The only reason most of the current NBA guys who went to college for a year did so was because they had to. When the rule changes in '22, they will skip in much greater numbers than people realize.

Ja Morant, Adam Morrison, Danny Manning, Trae Young, Mike Miller (yes out MM), etc. I could go on and on. Naming guys like Lebron or Kobe or KG is ludicrous as they are top picks even if they sat out the year.

(09-02-2019 09:50 AM)WiseMan Wrote:  The NCAA tournament is the greatest show on earth. Many players have made double digit millions immediately by playing in it and being successful. Most recent is in our home city, Ja Morant. You can can debate the overseas thing all you want but going that route doesn’t give you anything close to the exposure of the Tournament.

It’s not 1984 anymore. We have this thing called the interwebs now. Plus you can watch any player you want to on tv or live-streams. Players who warrant exposure will get exposure.

Morant would have been the #2 pick even if his team missed the tournament. Darius Garland was a top five pick despite missing the entire season with an injury. Zion Williamson was an Internet sensation before he set foot on Dukes campus

(09-02-2019 05:03 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 04:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(09-01-2019 09:47 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 12:39 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 11:01 AM)cmt Wrote:  Its not about learning anything, its about exposure to the NBA folks. I know a few will use this as an excuse to spend a couple of weeks in Australia and New Zealand (I would) but you disappear overseas. Would Ja Morant be #2 pick or Zion be #1 if they had gone to Australia and Italy instead of college?

Its fair dinkem he'll still make the NBA unless he's somehow a total flop down under, but if he's a ripper, he's lost a few draft spots by going kiwi and will look like a bloody galah.

People severely overstate how much "visibility" is lost going overseas. Euroleague games often basically have as many NBA scouts present as a typical top-25 college game and many teams have relationships with european development facilities. In addition, overseas guys are routinely being drafted in the top 10 ans the guys that have gone overseas so far have basically been drafted around where they were expected to go as prospects. Add in a mid six figure payday and its not clear there is any sacrifice to going overseas

name one American player who went overseas for one year and is now a big endorser

The visibility that hurts the non-NCAA player is the public Q score not necessarily the lack of scouts seeing a player

When player plays outside the NBA or NCAA they are out of mind to the US public , therefore they are not a choice for consumer goods companies as endorsers. they may get a shoe deal but it pales in comparison to what top NCAA players going to the NBA will get.

The NBA could care less if the player goes to college or not. They make their own stars. College is a totally different game than the NBA, most scouts just hope they don't get hurt or pick up too many bad habits while they are there.

Luka was the ROY and the biggest star of last year's draft class, obviously no NCAA time. Giannis was the MVP this season, no NCAA. Need I mention Lebron or Kobe or KG and on and on?

Even lesser players like Mitchell Robinson, Anfernee Simons and this year Darius Bazley have skipped college completely and not even gone overseas, and it hasn't hurt their draft stock at all (Bazely went 23rd to the Jazz this year.)

The only reason most of the current NBA guys who went to college for a year did so was because they had to. When the rule changes in '22, they will skip in much greater numbers than people realize.

Ja Morant, Adam Morrison, Danny Manning, Trae Young, Mike Miller (yes out MM), etc. I could go on and on. Naming guys like Lebron or Kobe or KG is ludicrous as they are top picks even if they sat out the year.

That’s literally the whole point. They don’t need college to be 1st round NBA draft picks. If you are good, the NBA will find you.

(09-02-2019 05:25 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 05:03 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 04:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(09-01-2019 09:47 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 12:39 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  People severely overstate how much "visibility" is lost going overseas. Euroleague games often basically have as many NBA scouts present as a typical top-25 college game and many teams have relationships with european development facilities. In addition, overseas guys are routinely being drafted in the top 10 ans the guys that have gone overseas so far have basically been drafted around where they were expected to go as prospects. Add in a mid six figure payday and its not clear there is any sacrifice to going overseas

name one American player who went overseas for one year and is now a big endorser

The visibility that hurts the non-NCAA player is the public Q score not necessarily the lack of scouts seeing a player

When player plays outside the NBA or NCAA they are out of mind to the US public , therefore they are not a choice for consumer goods companies as endorsers. they may get a shoe deal but it pales in comparison to what top NCAA players going to the NBA will get.

The NBA could care less if the player goes to college or not. They make their own stars. College is a totally different game than the NBA, most scouts just hope they don't get hurt or pick up too many bad habits while they are there.

Luka was the ROY and the biggest star of last year's draft class, obviously no NCAA time. Giannis was the MVP this season, no NCAA. Need I mention Lebron or Kobe or KG and on and on?

Even lesser players like Mitchell Robinson, Anfernee Simons and this year Darius Bazley have skipped college completely and not even gone overseas, and it hasn't hurt their draft stock at all (Bazely went 23rd to the Jazz this year.)

The only reason most of the current NBA guys who went to college for a year did so was because they had to. When the rule changes in '22, they will skip in much greater numbers than people realize.

Ja Morant, Adam Morrison, Danny Manning, Trae Young, Mike Miller (yes out MM), etc. I could go on and on. Naming guys like Lebron or Kobe or KG is ludicrous as they are top picks even if they sat out the year.

That’s literally the whole point. They don’t need college to be 1st round NBA draft picks. If you are good, the NBA will find you.

They also often find complete stiffs to pay millions to. Big Country and Thabeet come to mind.

You should stick to the Daily Helmsman

It's exactly your scope of interest

Just make sure it's free....I know it's not 7 per month though

(09-02-2019 08:03 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  They also often find complete stiffs to pay millions to. Big Country and Thabeet come to mind.

Huh? Both those dudes played multiple years in college.. jesus dude, did you even read a few of the posts to figure out what you were commenting on?

(09-02-2019 08:03 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 05:25 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 05:03 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 04:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(09-01-2019 09:47 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  name one American player who went overseas for one year and is now a big endorser

The visibility that hurts the non-NCAA player is the public Q score not necessarily the lack of scouts seeing a player

When player plays outside the NBA or NCAA they are out of mind to the US public , therefore they are not a choice for consumer goods companies as endorsers. they may get a shoe deal but it pales in comparison to what top NCAA players going to the NBA will get.

The NBA could care less if the player goes to college or not. They make their own stars. College is a totally different game than the NBA, most scouts just hope they don't get hurt or pick up too many bad habits while they are there.

Luka was the ROY and the biggest star of last year's draft class, obviously no NCAA time. Giannis was the MVP this season, no NCAA. Need I mention Lebron or Kobe or KG and on and on?

Even lesser players like Mitchell Robinson, Anfernee Simons and this year Darius Bazley have skipped college completely and not even gone overseas, and it hasn't hurt their draft stock at all (Bazely went 23rd to the Jazz this year.)

The only reason most of the current NBA guys who went to college for a year did so was because they had to. When the rule changes in '22, they will skip in much greater numbers than people realize.

Ja Morant, Adam Morrison, Danny Manning, Trae Young, Mike Miller (yes out MM), etc. I could go on and on. Naming guys like Lebron or Kobe or KG is ludicrous as they are top picks even if they sat out the year.

That’s literally the whole point. They don’t need college to be 1st round NBA draft picks. If you are good, the NBA will find you.

They also often find complete stiffs to pay millions to. Big Country and Thabeet come to mind.

I don’t know why people always say that about Reeves. He was decent before injuries

Don't know why and don't have a any inside info but I'd be surprised if Green comes here. A bunch of people in his ear. Just sayin...

(09-02-2019 05:25 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 05:03 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 04:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(09-01-2019 09:47 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(08-30-2019 12:39 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  People severely overstate how much "visibility" is lost going overseas. Euroleague games often basically have as many NBA scouts present as a typical top-25 college game and many teams have relationships with european development facilities. In addition, overseas guys are routinely being drafted in the top 10 ans the guys that have gone overseas so far have basically been drafted around where they were expected to go as prospects. Add in a mid six figure payday and its not clear there is any sacrifice to going overseas

name one American player who went overseas for one year and is now a big endorser

The visibility that hurts the non-NCAA player is the public Q score not necessarily the lack of scouts seeing a player

When player plays outside the NBA or NCAA they are out of mind to the US public , therefore they are not a choice for consumer goods companies as endorsers. they may get a shoe deal but it pales in comparison to what top NCAA players going to the NBA will get.

The NBA could care less if the player goes to college or not. They make their own stars. College is a totally different game than the NBA, most scouts just hope they don't get hurt or pick up too many bad habits while they are there.

Luka was the ROY and the biggest star of last year's draft class, obviously no NCAA time. Giannis was the MVP this season, no NCAA. Need I mention Lebron or Kobe or KG and on and on?

Even lesser players like Mitchell Robinson, Anfernee Simons and this year Darius Bazley have skipped college completely and not even gone overseas, and it hasn't hurt their draft stock at all (Bazely went 23rd to the Jazz this year.)

The only reason most of the current NBA guys who went to college for a year did so was because they had to. When the rule changes in '22, they will skip in much greater numbers than people realize.

Ja Morant, Adam Morrison, Danny Manning, Trae Young, Mike Miller (yes out MM), etc. I could go on and on. Naming guys like Lebron or Kobe or KG is ludicrous as they are top picks even if they sat out the year.

That’s literally the whole point. They don’t need college to be 1st round NBA draft picks. If you are good, the NBA will find you.

Those guys were relative unknowns going into the tournament. They were famous coming out. They increased their market value vs playing in a season end tournament in Spain.

(09-02-2019 09:42 PM)450bench Wrote:  Don't know why and don't have a any inside info but I'd be surprised if Green comes here. A bunch of people in his ear. Just sayin...

i got the same feeling based on what i'm seeing

(09-02-2019 08:03 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 05:25 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 05:03 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 04:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(09-01-2019 09:47 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  name one American player who went overseas for one year and is now a big endorser

The visibility that hurts the non-NCAA player is the public Q score not necessarily the lack of scouts seeing a player

When player plays outside the NBA or NCAA they are out of mind to the US public , therefore they are not a choice for consumer goods companies as endorsers. they may get a shoe deal but it pales in comparison to what top NCAA players going to the NBA will get.

The NBA could care less if the player goes to college or not. They make their own stars. College is a totally different game than the NBA, most scouts just hope they don't get hurt or pick up too many bad habits while they are there.

Luka was the ROY and the biggest star of last year's draft class, obviously no NCAA time. Giannis was the MVP this season, no NCAA. Need I mention Lebron or Kobe or KG and on and on?

Even lesser players like Mitchell Robinson, Anfernee Simons and this year Darius Bazley have skipped college completely and not even gone overseas, and it hasn't hurt their draft stock at all (Bazely went 23rd to the Jazz this year.)

The only reason most of the current NBA guys who went to college for a year did so was because they had to. When the rule changes in '22, they will skip in much greater numbers than people realize.

Ja Morant, Adam Morrison, Danny Manning, Trae Young, Mike Miller (yes out MM), etc. I could go on and on. Naming guys like Lebron or Kobe or KG is ludicrous as they are top picks even if they sat out the year.

That’s literally the whole point. They don’t need college to be 1st round NBA draft picks. If you are good, the NBA will find you.

They also often find complete stiffs to pay millions to. Big Country and Thabeet come to mind.

(09-03-2019 10:09 AM)Cletus Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 08:03 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 05:25 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 05:03 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 04:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  The NBA could care less if the player goes to college or not. They make their own stars. College is a totally different game than the NBA, most scouts just hope they don't get hurt or pick up too many bad habits while they are there.

Luka was the ROY and the biggest star of last year's draft class, obviously no NCAA time. Giannis was the MVP this season, no NCAA. Need I mention Lebron or Kobe or KG and on and on?

Even lesser players like Mitchell Robinson, Anfernee Simons and this year Darius Bazley have skipped college completely and not even gone overseas, and it hasn't hurt their draft stock at all (Bazely went 23rd to the Jazz this year.)

The only reason most of the current NBA guys who went to college for a year did so was because they had to. When the rule changes in '22, they will skip in much greater numbers than people realize.

Ja Morant, Adam Morrison, Danny Manning, Trae Young, Mike Miller (yes out MM), etc. I could go on and on. Naming guys like Lebron or Kobe or KG is ludicrous as they are top picks even if they sat out the year.

That’s literally the whole point. They don’t need college to be 1st round NBA draft picks. If you are good, the NBA will find you.

They also often find complete stiffs to pay millions to. Big Country and Thabeet come to mind.

I thought we were talking pro ball. Did I misspeak? How about Sam Bowie or that big guy Conley played with at osu?

(09-03-2019 10:26 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(09-03-2019 10:09 AM)Cletus Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 08:03 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 05:25 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(09-02-2019 05:03 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  Ja Morant, Adam Morrison, Danny Manning, Trae Young, Mike Miller (yes out MM), etc. I could go on and on. Naming guys like Lebron or Kobe or KG is ludicrous as they are top picks even if they sat out the year.

That’s literally the whole point. They don’t need college to be 1st round NBA draft picks. If you are good, the NBA will find you.

They also often find complete stiffs to pay millions to. Big Country and Thabeet come to mind.

I thought we were talking pro ball. Did I misspeak? How about Sam Bowie or that big guy Conley played with at osu?

That would be Greg Oden. He went off on Dorsey for 30+ pts after Dorsey talked down about Oden.