(08-05-2019 11:36 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 11:03 PM)Jmufan2018 Wrote:  Definitely think Coach Shank was the worst OL coach we have had in quite a few years. I also think that Cignetti and staff are QB whisperers given their track record and could really play to Ben’s strengths which we weren’t able to do last year. They built that offense to fit Cheek at Elon and I’m sure will do the same here. Our offense didn’t change at all in 3 years with Donnie K, regardless of who was at QB. Ben isn’t a deep ball, stand in the pocket QB and that’s what he had to do last year, because Schor did it so well and we were scared to change it up.

Get his mechanics improved and he could be more of a threat to fire it down field, but not the way he relies on arm strength without stepping into the pass.

Really surprising no coach along the way has gotten him to buy into improved mechanics.

(08-05-2019 11:45 PM)olddawg Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 11:36 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 11:03 PM)Jmufan2018 Wrote:  Definitely think Coach Shank was the worst OL coach we have had in quite a few years. I also think that Cignetti and staff are QB whisperers given their track record and could really play to Ben’s strengths which we weren’t able to do last year. They built that offense to fit Cheek at Elon and I’m sure will do the same here. Our offense didn’t change at all in 3 years with Donnie K, regardless of who was at QB. Ben isn’t a deep ball, stand in the pocket QB and that’s what he had to do last year, because Schor did it so well and we were scared to change it up.

Get his mechanics improved and he could be more of a threat to fire it down field, but not the way he relies on arm strength without stepping into the pass.

Really surprising no coach along the way has gotten him to buy into improved mechanics.

I think the new cheer coach is trying.

(08-05-2019 11:03 PM)Jmufan2018 Wrote:  Definitely think Coach Shank was the worst OL coach we have had in quite a few years. I also think that Cignetti and staff are QB whisperers given their track record and could really play to Ben’s strengths which we weren’t able to do last year. They built that offense to fit Cheek at Elon and I’m sure will do the same here. Our offense didn’t change at all in 3 years with Donnie K, regardless of who was at QB. Ben isn’t a deep ball, stand in the pocket QB and that’s what he had to do last year, because Schor did it so well and we were scared to change it up.

Bingo!

(08-05-2019 11:45 PM)olddawg Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 11:36 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 11:03 PM)Jmufan2018 Wrote:  Definitely think Coach Shank was the worst OL coach we have had in quite a few years. I also think that Cignetti and staff are QB whisperers given their track record and could really play to Ben’s strengths which we weren’t able to do last year. They built that offense to fit Cheek at Elon and I’m sure will do the same here. Our offense didn’t change at all in 3 years with Donnie K, regardless of who was at QB. Ben isn’t a deep ball, stand in the pocket QB and that’s what he had to do last year, because Schor did it so well and we were scared to change it up.

Get his mechanics improved and he could be more of a threat to fire it down field, but not the way he relies on arm strength without stepping into the pass.

Really surprising no coach along the way has gotten him to buy into improved mechanics.

I would think if he hasn’t changing his mechanics by now, he’s not going to.

(08-05-2019 11:48 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 11:45 PM)olddawg Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 11:36 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 11:03 PM)Jmufan2018 Wrote:  Definitely think Coach Shank was the worst OL coach we have had in quite a few years. I also think that Cignetti and staff are QB whisperers given their track record and could really play to Ben’s strengths which we weren’t able to do last year. They built that offense to fit Cheek at Elon and I’m sure will do the same here. Our offense didn’t change at all in 3 years with Donnie K, regardless of who was at QB. Ben isn’t a deep ball, stand in the pocket QB and that’s what he had to do last year, because Schor did it so well and we were scared to change it up.

Get his mechanics improved and he could be more of a threat to fire it down field, but not the way he relies on arm strength without stepping into the pass.

Really surprising no coach along the way has gotten him to buy into improved mechanics.

I think the new cheer coach is trying.

And all the hard-working, awesome public, private, parochial, and home school teachers.... who are either over, under, or properly compensated.

Based on Madia's recent article, it appears it is Ben's job to lose. He's doing everything the right way and making good decisions... very good things. If we can just make sure he doesn't have UNH/Colgate games we'll be in terrific shape at QB. I have a lot of faith in CC and Montgomery to fix the problems at QB and appears they are pleased with the job he's doing. And if they're pleased, I'm sure we will be as well.

Also sounds like Gage is dealing with a hamstring injury. They are saying he is day-to-day so it doesn't sound too serious right now.

(08-06-2019 07:39 AM)jmutoml757 Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 11:48 PM)Purple Wrote:  I think the new cheer coach is trying.

And all the hard-working, awesome public, private, parochial, and home school teachers.... who are either over, under, or properly compensated.

DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE SCHOOL OF HARD KNOXX

(08-05-2019 11:45 PM)olddawg Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 11:36 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 11:03 PM)Jmufan2018 Wrote:  Definitely think Coach Shank was the worst OL coach we have had in quite a few years. I also think that Cignetti and staff are QB whisperers given their track record and could really play to Ben’s strengths which we weren’t able to do last year. They built that offense to fit Cheek at Elon and I’m sure will do the same here. Our offense didn’t change at all in 3 years with Donnie K, regardless of who was at QB. Ben isn’t a deep ball, stand in the pocket QB and that’s what he had to do last year, because Schor did it so well and we were scared to change it up.

Get his mechanics improved and he could be more of a threat to fire it down field, but not the way he relies on arm strength without stepping into the pass.

Really surprising no coach along the way has gotten him to buy into improved mechanics.

I think the coaches have feared that changing his mechanics significantly will change the type of player he is. He is not somebody that’s going to throw the ball 60 yards on a seam. He’s the most athletic QB we have had since Vad. Ben is going to scramble, throw on the run and force the defense to move, all while being elusive. Without a doubt, combined with Cignetti, he gives us the best chance to upset WVU and to win the National championship

My hack analysis is Nooch is fine in most aspects until he gets into pressure situations. Then it seem his weaknesses escalate into bad decisions. Brian on the other hand seemed to (usually) get better under pressure.

I'll take Ben's "progress" during camp with a grain of salt and just hope The Cig can coach him up. Bummer about Gage, was hoping he'd blossom this year but maybe he never will.

Yeah I wish Gage would get there too. It’s not over for him yet though!

Well we do have an opening at WR with the unfortunate news about Dillon Spalding.

https://247sports.com/Player/DeJuan-Ellis-75551/

QB converted to slot, wonder if he’s trying to go back to being a QB?

Sorry if this was mentioned in some other thread. I’m catching up on old DNR articles and Cignetti admitted he was a candidate for the JMU HC job back when Mickey was let go and we ended up hiring Everett Withers.

Saw the 2 deep depth chart as predicted by someone who covers the team. Saw it on Facebook-it might have been the WSVA guy. It did not list Mateo Jackson anywhere. He got a fair amount of time last year at LB and would have thought he'd again be in the mix. He's one of only a few LBs on the roster w/ some size. Wonder what the deal is with him?

Two ECU players charged with felonies for breaking in cars.

https://247sports.com/college/east-carol...134760847/

(08-25-2019 05:35 PM)Anders Wrote:  Two ECU players charged with felonies for breaking in cars.

https://247sports.com/college/east-carol...134760847/

I don't care... HCMH is a lying sack of s#&#. The reason we lost to Colgate is because of his desire to promote himself. Team first BS from a dude that probably orchestrated the entire leaking of the Charlotte job himself to get the job at ECU. He was good while here however his departure was unfortunate and he hurt the players in the program w/ his drama. I don't like seeing student athletes getting in trouble and Houston will do a decent job as a disciplinarian and building a winning approach and culture. If successful, he will bolt leaving many student athletes and their families behind. I hope we don't have to read another post about ECU on this board... I would rather see posts about JMU and their student athletes.

Despite Houston's sob story about the Charlotte job leak; the party with motive and the most to gain from this was Houston himself.

Motive Means & Opportunity. Pretty time tested cause and effect results.

(08-25-2019 06:45 PM)#20fromalongtimeago Wrote:  

(08-25-2019 05:35 PM)Anders Wrote:  Two ECU players charged with felonies for breaking in cars.

https://247sports.com/college/east-carol...134760847/

I don't care... HCMH is a lying sack of s#&#. The reason we lost to Colgate is because of his desire to promote himself. Team first BS from a dude that probably orchestrated the entire leaking of the Charlotte job himself to get the job at ECU. He was good while here however his departure was unfortunate and he hurt the players in the program w/ his drama. I don't like seeing student athletes getting in trouble and Houston will do a decent job as a disciplinarian and building a winning approach and culture. If successful, he will bolt leaving many student athletes and their families behind. I hope we don't have to read another post about ECU on this board... I would rather see posts about JMU and their student athletes.

I did think that the time would eventually come, but I really thought he would do in a much better, more professional way. I always thought of him as a guy that liked to do things the right way and I feel like he didn't do that at the end. The whole thing at the end was a circus. It was a distraction not just for the players, but the coaching staff and there's no wonder both struggled versus Colgate. I'll never forget the look on his face during the post game conference.
Coach Houston used to be my favorite head coach of any team I've been a fan of, but those last few weeks tarnished that reputation. I don't hate the guy, but really wish he could have done things differently. His aspirations got in the way from doing the right thing for the school that trusted him, as well as the players that looked up to him.
If he continues to have success, there's zero doubt in my mind he'll be elsewhere. There's a part of me that hopes he regrets leaving JMU and doesn't find a job that treats him as well as we did.

(08-25-2019 08:12 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(08-25-2019 06:45 PM)#20fromalongtimeago Wrote:  

(08-25-2019 05:35 PM)Anders Wrote:  Two ECU players charged with felonies for breaking in cars.

https://247sports.com/college/east-carol...134760847/

I don't care... HCMH is a lying sack of s#&#. The reason we lost to Colgate is because of his desire to promote himself. Team first BS from a dude that probably orchestrated the entire leaking of the Charlotte job himself to get the job at ECU. He was good while here however his departure was unfortunate and he hurt the players in the program w/ his drama. I don't like seeing student athletes getting in trouble and Houston will do a decent job as a disciplinarian and building a winning approach and culture. If successful, he will bolt leaving many student athletes and their families behind. I hope we don't have to read another post about ECU on this board... I would rather see posts about JMU and their student athletes.

I did think that the time would eventually come, but I really thought he would do in a much better, more professional way. I always thought of him as a guy that liked to do things the right way and I feel like he didn't do that at the end. The whole thing at the end was a circus. It was a distraction not just for the players, but the coaching staff and there's no wonder both struggled versus Colgate. I'll never forget the look on his face during the post game conference.
Coach Houston used to be my favorite head coach of any team I've been a fan of, but those last few weeks tarnished that reputation. I don't hate the guy, but really wish he could have done things differently. His aspirations got in the way from doing the right thing for the school that trusted him, as well as the players that looked up to him.
If he continues to have success, there's zero doubt in my mind he'll be elsewhere. There's a part of me that hopes he regrets leaving JMU and doesn't find a job that treats him as well as we did.

I like HCMH and will continue to root for him, but like many was not pleased with the end of his tenure. Not that he left-( he picked a good time to advance his career), but rather w/ the drama and distractions that undoubtedly led to our subpar performance.

Talked w/ two separate former ECU lettermen over the weekend. They are very happy to have Houston and his staff and are excited for the future. Interestingly though, both said (unprompted) that they expect him to move on to UNC if he turns ECU around. It is kinda weird here in the Triangle how many people are friends and neighbors w/ former coaches and ADs. Lotta loose lips over BBQ cookouts.