(08-02-2019 08:07 AM)Wear Purple Wrote: We shouldn't be hating on ANY of our student-athletes.
I agree with that. They all have a role and I don't know of a single one who doesn't take his role seriously.
Yep. They chose JMU when they could've gone elsewhere. I highly doubt any of the them get up the morning of a game/match and say to themselves... "I think I'll go out and see if I can really screw things up and play as poorly as I can."
The level of miserable sad sacks and lack of legit moderation of this board allowing slams of student-athletes, constant and obvious trolling, and the like reflects poorly on the JMU fanbase. Makes the place far less enjoyable. Sad.
(08-01-2019 07:39 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote: He left off a lot of interceptions from that highlight reel
Would you believe BS had more interceptions 14 in 2017 than did BD in 2018 with 12. The fumbles seemed to be the real problem with BD.
BS was one or two TOs per game MAX. Dinucci literally single handedly lost us several games.
BS! (and those letters don't stand for Bryan Schor)
DiNucci spent most of his time last year running for his life. Look at the New Hampshire game. He was in the game about 4 minutes. On the fumble, Kirkpatrick's tactic was to make a very good dual-threat quarterback who could offset a poor offensive line with his ability to run and create, into a drop-back, pocket passer whose poor offensive line was incapable of giving him two seconds to get a pass off, which led to him running for his life and getting sacked A LOT! On that fumble, it looked like Nooch was face-masked which may have caused the fumble, or he may have been down when the ball was fumbled. I'm not sure about that, but what I am sure about is that with adequate protection and with DiNucci NOT being forced to be a pocket passer, things would have gone much better in that game and all of last year.
On the pick, that was more a great defensive play by a defender who jumped the route than a bad pass by DiNucci, whose man was open when he released the ball. He was under pressure, again scrambling due to an offensive line unable to protect him.
So, Nooch was benched. Cole Johnson came into the game and proceeded to throw three picks, adding a fumble of his own and zero touchdowns.
So, who gets the blame for the loss? DiNucci.
OK, New Hampshire wasn't one of the several games "Dinucci literally single handedly lost us."
Maybe Elon was one of those games. Malcolm Summers had 20 totes for a 9.3 ypc average. I wrote DiNucci after the game and asked him what the hell was wrong with him allowing that to happen. He should have gotten out there on D and contributed, dammit! While Elon was running the ball down our throats, we averaged 2.6 ypc. Our leading rusher was Trai Sharp with 33 whole yards. Believe me, I let Nooch have it after the game for allowing that to happen!
Well, we only lost four games all season. I have already covered two of them. The only other losses were to NC State and Colgate.
Against the Wolfpack, Nooch was 23 for 27, a touchdown, no picks, and he led all rushers from both teams in both yardage (79) and ypc (5.6). So, I think we can throw out NC State as one of the several games "Dinucci literally single handedly lost us." Wouldn't you agree, Potomac?
So, that leaves Colgate. Even if Nooch was "literally single handedly" responsible for that loss, that would be one game that you claim is "several."
So, let's examine the Colgate game, shall we? Mickey Lite Houston already had one foot out the door. In his mind, he had gone to Carolina (said James Taylor). Personally, I don't think he wanted to play another game with the lowly Dukes. He had punched his ticket. He was happy to end his JMU career in Hamilton, NY.
As for DiNucci, he had five picks. I couldn't find much video of the game and could only see the first pick which appeared to bounce off of one of our receivers into the hands of a Colgate defender. I can't tell for sure due to poor video quality, but that is what it appears to be. I couldn't find video of the other picks.
Nooch led the team in rushing with 76 yards and led all rushers from both teams in ypc at 7.6.
If our defense had held Colgate to the average they held teams all season (12 points), then we would have won the game. Colgate scored only one point less on our defense than NC State did. But, as we all know, that, too, as always, is DiNucci's fault!
How dare you present actual facts and game situation......now you have gone and ruined a false narrative that everything is Ben's fault and had Cole been QB1 JMU would have breezed thru the season.
The JMU OL was very poor last season in both pass blocking and run blocking. I don't think it had that much to do with the players but very poor OL Coaching that seemed clueless to adjust at any point last season.
I agree. O-line is our biggest question mark. If they play well this season, I don't see anyone touching us.
(08-01-2019 08:22 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote: Would you believe BS had more interceptions 14 in 2017 than did BD in 2018 with 12. The fumbles seemed to be the real problem with BD.
BS was one or two TOs per game MAX. Dinucci literally single handedly lost us several games.
BS! (and those letters don't stand for Bryan Schor)
DiNucci spent most of his time last year running for his life. Look at the New Hampshire game. He was in the game about 4 minutes. On the fumble, Kirkpatrick's tactic was to make a very good dual-threat quarterback who could offset a poor offensive line with his ability to run and create, into a drop-back, pocket passer whose poor offensive line was incapable of giving him two seconds to get a pass off, which led to him running for his life and getting sacked A LOT! On that fumble, it looked like Nooch was face-masked which may have caused the fumble, or he may have been down when the ball was fumbled. I'm not sure about that, but what I am sure about is that with adequate protection and with DiNucci NOT being forced to be a pocket passer, things would have gone much better in that game and all of last year.
On the pick, that was more a great defensive play by a defender who jumped the route than a bad pass by DiNucci, whose man was open when he released the ball. He was under pressure, again scrambling due to an offensive line unable to protect him.
So, Nooch was benched. Cole Johnson came into the game and proceeded to throw three picks, adding a fumble of his own and zero touchdowns.
So, who gets the blame for the loss? DiNucci.
OK, New Hampshire wasn't one of the several games "Dinucci literally single handedly lost us."
Maybe Elon was one of those games. Malcolm Summers had 20 totes for a 9.3 ypc average. I wrote DiNucci after the game and asked him what the hell was wrong with him allowing that to happen. He should have gotten out there on D and contributed, dammit! While Elon was running the ball down our throats, we averaged 2.6 ypc. Our leading rusher was Trai Sharp with 33 whole yards. Believe me, I let Nooch have it after the game for allowing that to happen!
Well, we only lost four games all season. I have already covered two of them. The only other losses were to NC State and Colgate.
Against the Wolfpack, Nooch was 23 for 27, a touchdown, no picks, and he led all rushers from both teams in both yardage (79) and ypc (5.6). So, I think we can throw out NC State as one of the several games "Dinucci literally single handedly lost us." Wouldn't you agree, Potomac?
So, that leaves Colgate. Even if Nooch was "literally single handedly" responsible for that loss, that would be one game that you claim is "several."
So, let's examine the Colgate game, shall we? Mickey Lite Houston already had one foot out the door. In his mind, he had gone to Carolina (said James Taylor). Personally, I don't think he wanted to play another game with the lowly Dukes. He had punched his ticket. He was happy to end his JMU career in Hamilton, NY.
As for DiNucci, he had five picks. I couldn't find much video of the game and could only see the first pick which appeared to bounce off of one of our receivers into the hands of a Colgate defender. I can't tell for sure due to poor video quality, but that is what it appears to be. I couldn't find video of the other picks.
Nooch led the team in rushing with 76 yards and led all rushers from both teams in ypc at 7.6.
If our defense had held Colgate to the average they held teams all season (12 points), then we would have won the game. Colgate scored only one point less on our defense than NC State did. But, as we all know, that, too, as always, is DiNucci's fault!
How dare you present actual facts and game situation......now you have gone and ruined a false narrative that everything is Ben's fault and had Cole been QB1 JMU would have breezed thru the season.
The JMU OL was very poor last season in both pass blocking and run blocking. I don't think it had that much to do with the players but very poor OL Coaching that seemed clueless to adjust at any point last season.
I agree. O-line is our biggest question mark. If they play well this season, I don't see anyone touching us.
Yup.....I expect the O-line play to be much better this season b/c I think JMU now has a very good and motivated O-line coach in Wrobo. Hiring Shankweiler to be O-Line coach last year was a curious and bad move.
Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said I hate the Nooch. I love his bravado. I love his swagger. I love his legs (meaning his mobility not his sexy man legs). I want him to succeed especially if he's the starting QB. Personally I think Cole is a better option since you know he's actually beaten Elon and BD hasn't, but whoever is our guy I'll be rooting for.
He just throws a lot of picks. I think he just threw another as I was typing this.
(08-01-2019 11:31 AM)Potomac Wrote: BS was one or two TOs per game MAX. Dinucci literally single handedly lost us several games.
BS! (and those letters don't stand for Bryan Schor)
DiNucci spent most of his time last year running for his life. Look at the New Hampshire game. He was in the game about 4 minutes. On the fumble, Kirkpatrick's tactic was to make a very good dual-threat quarterback who could offset a poor offensive line with his ability to run and create, into a drop-back, pocket passer whose poor offensive line was incapable of giving him two seconds to get a pass off, which led to him running for his life and getting sacked A LOT! On that fumble, it looked like Nooch was face-masked which may have caused the fumble, or he may have been down when the ball was fumbled. I'm not sure about that, but what I am sure about is that with adequate protection and with DiNucci NOT being forced to be a pocket passer, things would have gone much better in that game and all of last year.
On the pick, that was more a great defensive play by a defender who jumped the route than a bad pass by DiNucci, whose man was open when he released the ball. He was under pressure, again scrambling due to an offensive line unable to protect him.
So, Nooch was benched. Cole Johnson came into the game and proceeded to throw three picks, adding a fumble of his own and zero touchdowns.
So, who gets the blame for the loss? DiNucci.
OK, New Hampshire wasn't one of the several games "Dinucci literally single handedly lost us."
Maybe Elon was one of those games. Malcolm Summers had 20 totes for a 9.3 ypc average. I wrote DiNucci after the game and asked him what the hell was wrong with him allowing that to happen. He should have gotten out there on D and contributed, dammit! While Elon was running the ball down our throats, we averaged 2.6 ypc. Our leading rusher was Trai Sharp with 33 whole yards. Believe me, I let Nooch have it after the game for allowing that to happen!
Well, we only lost four games all season. I have already covered two of them. The only other losses were to NC State and Colgate.
Against the Wolfpack, Nooch was 23 for 27, a touchdown, no picks, and he led all rushers from both teams in both yardage (79) and ypc (5.6). So, I think we can throw out NC State as one of the several games "Dinucci literally single handedly lost us." Wouldn't you agree, Potomac?
So, that leaves Colgate. Even if Nooch was "literally single handedly" responsible for that loss, that would be one game that you claim is "several."
So, let's examine the Colgate game, shall we? Mickey Lite Houston already had one foot out the door. In his mind, he had gone to Carolina (said James Taylor). Personally, I don't think he wanted to play another game with the lowly Dukes. He had punched his ticket. He was happy to end his JMU career in Hamilton, NY.
As for DiNucci, he had five picks. I couldn't find much video of the game and could only see the first pick which appeared to bounce off of one of our receivers into the hands of a Colgate defender. I can't tell for sure due to poor video quality, but that is what it appears to be. I couldn't find video of the other picks.
Nooch led the team in rushing with 76 yards and led all rushers from both teams in ypc at 7.6.
If our defense had held Colgate to the average they held teams all season (12 points), then we would have won the game. Colgate scored only one point less on our defense than NC State did. But, as we all know, that, too, as always, is DiNucci's fault!
How dare you present actual facts and game situation......now you have gone and ruined a false narrative that everything is Ben's fault and had Cole been QB1 JMU would have breezed thru the season.
The JMU OL was very poor last season in both pass blocking and run blocking. I don't think it had that much to do with the players but very poor OL Coaching that seemed clueless to adjust at any point last season.
I agree. O-line is our biggest question mark. If they play well this season, I don't see anyone touching us.
Yup.....I expect the O-line play to be much better this season b/c I think JMU now has a very good and motivated O-line coach in Wrobo. Hiring Shankweiler to be O-Line coach last year was a curious and bad move.
Kirkpatrick and Shankweiler made Houston more appealing to ECU (this was stated by ECU leadership after the hire). Part of me thinks that hire may have been designed to attract ECU. Shankweiler’s resume looked good on paper, but believe Wrobo will produce better results this year.
(08-01-2019 10:12 PM)Purple Wrote: BS! (and those letters don't stand for Bryan Schor)
DiNucci spent most of his time last year running for his life. Look at the New Hampshire game. He was in the game about 4 minutes. On the fumble, Kirkpatrick's tactic was to make a very good dual-threat quarterback who could offset a poor offensive line with his ability to run and create, into a drop-back, pocket passer whose poor offensive line was incapable of giving him two seconds to get a pass off, which led to him running for his life and getting sacked A LOT! On that fumble, it looked like Nooch was face-masked which may have caused the fumble, or he may have been down when the ball was fumbled. I'm not sure about that, but what I am sure about is that with adequate protection and with DiNucci NOT being forced to be a pocket passer, things would have gone much better in that game and all of last year.
On the pick, that was more a great defensive play by a defender who jumped the route than a bad pass by DiNucci, whose man was open when he released the ball. He was under pressure, again scrambling due to an offensive line unable to protect him.
So, Nooch was benched. Cole Johnson came into the game and proceeded to throw three picks, adding a fumble of his own and zero touchdowns.
So, who gets the blame for the loss? DiNucci.
OK, New Hampshire wasn't one of the several games "Dinucci literally single handedly lost us."
Maybe Elon was one of those games. Malcolm Summers had 20 totes for a 9.3 ypc average. I wrote DiNucci after the game and asked him what the hell was wrong with him allowing that to happen. He should have gotten out there on D and contributed, dammit! While Elon was running the ball down our throats, we averaged 2.6 ypc. Our leading rusher was Trai Sharp with 33 whole yards. Believe me, I let Nooch have it after the game for allowing that to happen!
Well, we only lost four games all season. I have already covered two of them. The only other losses were to NC State and Colgate.
Against the Wolfpack, Nooch was 23 for 27, a touchdown, no picks, and he led all rushers from both teams in both yardage (79) and ypc (5.6). So, I think we can throw out NC State as one of the several games "Dinucci literally single handedly lost us." Wouldn't you agree, Potomac?
So, that leaves Colgate. Even if Nooch was "literally single handedly" responsible for that loss, that would be one game that you claim is "several."
So, let's examine the Colgate game, shall we? Mickey Lite Houston already had one foot out the door. In his mind, he had gone to Carolina (said James Taylor). Personally, I don't think he wanted to play another game with the lowly Dukes. He had punched his ticket. He was happy to end his JMU career in Hamilton, NY.
As for DiNucci, he had five picks. I couldn't find much video of the game and could only see the first pick which appeared to bounce off of one of our receivers into the hands of a Colgate defender. I can't tell for sure due to poor video quality, but that is what it appears to be. I couldn't find video of the other picks.
Nooch led the team in rushing with 76 yards and led all rushers from both teams in ypc at 7.6.
If our defense had held Colgate to the average they held teams all season (12 points), then we would have won the game. Colgate scored only one point less on our defense than NC State did. But, as we all know, that, too, as always, is DiNucci's fault!
How dare you present actual facts and game situation......now you have gone and ruined a false narrative that everything is Ben's fault and had Cole been QB1 JMU would have breezed thru the season.
The JMU OL was very poor last season in both pass blocking and run blocking. I don't think it had that much to do with the players but very poor OL Coaching that seemed clueless to adjust at any point last season.
I agree. O-line is our biggest question mark. If they play well this season, I don't see anyone touching us.
Yup.....I expect the O-line play to be much better this season b/c I think JMU now has a very good and motivated O-line coach in Wrobo. Hiring Shankweiler to be O-Line coach last year was a curious and bad move.
Kirkpatrick and Shankweiler made Houston more appealing to ECU (this was stated by ECU leadership after the hire). Part of me thinks that hire may have been designed to attract ECU. Shankweiler’s resume looked good on paper, but believe Wrobo will produce better results this year.
I had that exact same thing typed earlier but said nah I will let it go.....but yes I agree I believe 100% Shankweiler was a calculated/PR hire for a potential ECU job.
(08-02-2019 04:07 PM)Potomac Wrote: Are we allowed to speculate that MH had his foot out the door? I think we need to get a consensus agreement from the Dukes domain board of posters.
I recall people jumping down some throats after the Colgate loss for suggesting such a thing. I guess the waiting period is over.
Houston is a riser... He had one foot out the door the day he accepted the JMU job...He was a great hire but with that said he lost the game for us at Colgate due to the distraction. So glad we have Cig now as I believe we upgraded.
(08-02-2019 04:07 PM)Potomac Wrote: Are we allowed to speculate that MH had his foot out the door? I think we need to get a consensus agreement from the Dukes domain board of posters.
I recall people jumping down some throats after the Colgate loss for suggesting such a thing. I guess the waiting period is over.
Houston is a riser... He had one foot out the door the day he accepted the JMU job...He was a great hire but with that said he lost the game for us at Colgate due to the distraction. So glad we have Cig now as I believe we upgraded.
You misspelled "stupid, ill-timed and ill-conceived fake punt that literally everyone in the stadium knew was coming". He was so obviously ready to be out of here and get to the recruiting trail. Terrible way to end an otherwise brilliant career here.
(08-02-2019 04:07 PM)Potomac Wrote: Are we allowed to speculate that MH had his foot out the door? I think we need to get a consensus agreement from the Dukes domain board of posters.
I recall people jumping down some throats after the Colgate loss for suggesting such a thing. I guess the waiting period is over.
Houston is a riser...
Maybe so, but I don't see Houston having the same success at ECU that he had at the Citadel and JMU. In fact, it could be disastrous.
(08-02-2019 04:07 PM)Potomac Wrote: Are we allowed to speculate that MH had his foot out the door? I think we need to get a consensus agreement from the Dukes domain board of posters.
I recall people jumping down some throats after the Colgate loss for suggesting such a thing. I guess the waiting period is over.
Houston is a riser...
Maybe so, but I don't see Houston having the same success at ECU that he had at the Citadel and JMU. In fact, it could be disastrous.
Houston has experienced success at every level, not just at the CIT and JMU. It may take him longer to get the program in a position to win at ECU, but Houston’s track record says he succeeds in doing just that.
(08-02-2019 04:07 PM)Potomac Wrote: Are we allowed to speculate that MH had his foot out the door? I think we need to get a consensus agreement from the Dukes domain board of posters.
I recall people jumping down some throats after the Colgate loss for suggesting such a thing. I guess the waiting period is over.
Houston is a riser...
Maybe so, but I don't see Houston having the same success at ECU that he had at the Citadel and JMU. In fact, it could be disastrous.
Houston has experienced success at every level, not just at the CIT and JMU. It may take him longer to get the program in a position to win at ECU, but Houston’s track record says he succeeds in doing just that.
Time will tell. I don't see it. He is not walking into a stacked house at ECU like the one he found at JMU.
(08-02-2019 04:07 PM)Potomac Wrote: Are we allowed to speculate that MH had his foot out the door? I think we need to get a consensus agreement from the Dukes domain board of posters.
I recall people jumping down some throats after the Colgate loss for suggesting such a thing. I guess the waiting period is over.
Houston is a riser... He had one foot out the door the day he accepted the JMU job...He was a great hire but with that said he lost the game for us at Colgate due to the distraction. So glad we have Cig now as I believe we upgraded.
I agree with you in saying Cig is an upgrade because he can provide a spark that MH had lost after 2016. But, if you think Cignetti isn’t a riser too and doesn’t have half his foot out the door already, I think you’re mistaken. This job is going to continue to be a revolving door and a stepping stone for elite FCS coaches to jump to FBS.
(08-02-2019 04:07 PM)Potomac Wrote: Are we allowed to speculate that MH had his foot out the door? I think we need to get a consensus agreement from the Dukes domain board of posters.
I recall people jumping down some throats after the Colgate loss for suggesting such a thing. I guess the waiting period is over.
Houston is a riser...
Maybe so, but I don't see Houston having the same success at ECU that he had at the Citadel and JMU. In fact, it could be disastrous.
Houston has experienced success at every level, not just at the CIT and JMU. It may take him longer to get the program in a position to win at ECU, but Houston’s track record says he succeeds in doing just that.
Time will tell. I don't see it. He is not walking into a stacked house at ECU like the one he found at JMU.
Yeah he walked into a stacked house at the Citadel. So stacked that they hadn’t been to the playoffs in about 20 years, but he had them there in his 2nd year, and won a playoff game to boot.
He walked into a stacked house at Lenoir-Rhyne. So stacked they hadn’t been to the playoffs in about 30 years. He had them winning conference championships in all 3 of his seasons as HC & made the NC his 3rd season.
(08-02-2019 06:56 PM)#20fromalongtimeago Wrote: Houston is a riser...
Maybe so, but I don't see Houston having the same success at ECU that he had at the Citadel and JMU. In fact, it could be disastrous.
Houston has experienced success at every level, not just at the CIT and JMU. It may take him longer to get the program in a position to win at ECU, but Houston’s track record says he succeeds in doing just that.
Time will tell. I don't see it. He is not walking into a stacked house at ECU like the one he found at JMU.
Yeah he walked into a stacked house at the Citadel. So stacked that they hadn’t been to the playoffs in about 20 years, but he had them there in his 2nd year, and won a playoff game to boot.
He walked into a stacked house at Lenoir-Rhyne. So stacked they hadn’t been to the playoffs in about 30 years. He had them winning conference championships in all 3 of his seasons as HC & made the NC his 3rd season.
True. And while JMU was loaded, it was underperforming. The CIT was a program with a proud history, but had really fallen into a pattern of mediocrity. Making the playoffs at the CIT and beating P5 South Carolina was an eye-opener, and there’s no denying Houston’s impact in coaching JMU to the road win over NDSU and consecutive NC appearances.
While the ECU situation is going to be tougher to generate an immediate turn-around, Houston is in his prime and has a solid staff. I would not be surprised that he leads the team to 6 wins and makes a bowl game his first year.
(08-02-2019 08:54 PM)Purple Wrote: Maybe so, but I don't see Houston having the same success at ECU that he had at the Citadel and JMU. In fact, it could be disastrous.
Houston has experienced success at every level, not just at the CIT and JMU. It may take him longer to get the program in a position to win at ECU, but Houston’s track record says he succeeds in doing just that.
Time will tell. I don't see it. He is not walking into a stacked house at ECU like the one he found at JMU.
Yeah he walked into a stacked house at the Citadel. So stacked that they hadn’t been to the playoffs in about 20 years, but he had them there in his 2nd year, and won a playoff game to boot.
He walked into a stacked house at Lenoir-Rhyne. So stacked they hadn’t been to the playoffs in about 30 years. He had them winning conference championships in all 3 of his seasons as HC & made the NC his 3rd season.
True. And while JMU was loaded, it was underperforming. The CIT was a program with a proud history, but had really fallen into a pattern of mediocrity. Making the playoffs at the CIT and beating P5 South Carolina was an eye-opener, and there’s no denying Houston’s impact in coaching JMU to the road win over NDSU and consecutive NC appearances.
While the ECU situation is going to be tougher to generate an immediate turn-around, Houston is in his prime and has a solid staff. I would not be surprised that he leads the team to 6 wins and makes a bowl game his first year.
I actually sort of expect this, and even 7, 8, or 9 wins wouldn’t shock me.
EZU has a weak schedule this year compared to last, enough to make a 3 or 4 game win difference even without a coaching change. Last year they played the top of the AAC, this year they have two easy FCS games plus the bottom of the AAC (SMU, UConn, etc)
Houston will motivate them, and their defense will almost certainly improve with Trott. Even a meh offense should have them winning much more than in the past.
(08-02-2019 04:07 PM)Potomac Wrote: Are we allowed to speculate that MH had his foot out the door? I think we need to get a consensus agreement from the Dukes domain board of posters.
I recall people jumping down some throats after the Colgate loss for suggesting such a thing. I guess the waiting period is over.
Houston is a riser... He had one foot out the door the day he accepted the JMU job...He was a great hire but with that said he lost the game for us at Colgate due to the distraction. So glad we have Cig now as I believe we upgraded.
I agree with you in saying Cig is an upgrade because he can provide a spark that MH had lost after 2016. But, if you think Cignetti isn’t a riser too and doesn’t have half his foot out the door already, I think you’re mistaken. This job is going to continue to be a revolving door and a stepping stone for elite FCS coaches to jump to FBS.
As long as those elite FCS coaches keep winning national titles, I won’t really care.
Opponent (% Chance of Winning)
at West Virginia (7%)
St. Francis (98%)
Morgan State (99%)
at Chattanooga (82%)
at Elon (73%)
at Stony Brook (69%)
Villanova (81%)
at William & Mary (88%)
Towson (77%)
New Hampshire (82%)
Richmond (91%)
at Rhode Island (72%)
Most Likely Record (9-3)
Our hardest game other than WVU is at Stony Brook. I probably agree.
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