ESPN must be blind.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...25-2019-20

that doesn't mean there are 12 teams more talented than us, just a prediction on where we might start off being ranked...

13. Memphis Tigers
Previous: 12

Despite not being No. 1 in the rankings -- or even in the top 10 -- the Tigers are going to be the headliners in college basketball next season. Part of that is due to Penny Hardaway being at the helm, but now he's bringing in the No. 1 recruiting class in the country, led by No. 1 overall prospect James Wiseman. There is a ton of hype surrounding the Tigers, but they've dropped a few spots after the initial high wore off from their spring commitment run. All five starters could be freshmen, with Wiseman flanked by five-star forwards Precious Achiuwa and D.J. Jeffries, and ESPN 100 guards Boogie Ellis and Lester Quinones in the backcourt. Some potential problems include a severe lack of experience and how Hardaway fits all the pieces together.

The good news is we have a chance to prove them wrong.

(07-13-2019 11:18 AM)Galilee Wrote:  ESPN must be blind.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...25-2019-20

Since we are depending on mostly freshmen for our team firepower and have a relatively inexperienced head coach, I think that is a fair starting position.

They are biased toward the blue blood teams.. It's always been that way with ESPN.. They don't like us anyway.

(07-13-2019 11:34 AM)presskh Wrote:  

(07-13-2019 11:18 AM)Galilee Wrote:  ESPN must be blind.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...25-2019-20

Since we are depending on mostly freshmen for our team firepower and have a relatively inexperienced head coach, I think that is a fair starting position.

I agree. I am honestly baffled so many Tiger fans seem to think we are automatically a great team. We might end up being a great team, but we have a lot to do first.

This team is going to stumble quite a few times over this next season. Talent is great and can overcome a lot of obstacles but to reach the top you need some experience as well.

(07-13-2019 11:34 AM)presskh Wrote:  

(07-13-2019 11:18 AM)Galilee Wrote:  ESPN must be blind.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...25-2019-20

Since we are depending on mostly freshmen for our team firepower and have a relatively inexperienced head coach, I think that is a fair starting position.

Me too, plus there are no awards for preseason rankings

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(07-13-2019 01:05 PM)passat25 Wrote:  They are biased toward the blue blood teams.. It's always been that way with ESPN.. They don't like us anyway.

I don’t know about liking but there is definite bias to blue bloods. Do you think “severe lack of experience” was ever used in conjunction with the number one recruiting classes Duke and Kansas has the past 10 years (they had virtually all of them)? Andy Katz used some strong language about Wiseman in his top 25 players. Again, reflecting what you said: biased reporting.

Dude it's one person's freaking opinion.

Of course it's biased.

1. We are a very young team...talented, yes...arguably the most talented team in the county...but youth is a factor.

2. ESPN, as said above, favors the blue bloods. We aren't a blue blood in their eyes, probably will never be, and therefore will never get the respect reserved for the favored sons.

We have gone from

2017-18 108+
2018-2019 58

2019-20 Preseason Rank 13


I see no problem here

I see a problem dude.

ESPN HATES US!!!!

(07-13-2019 11:34 AM)presskh Wrote:  

(07-13-2019 11:18 AM)Galilee Wrote:  ESPN must be blind.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...25-2019-20

Since we are depending on mostly freshmen for our team firepower and have a relatively inexperienced head coach, I think that is a fair starting position.

Plus losing Jeremiah Martin, Kyvon Davenport, Kareem Brewton Jr., Raynere Thornton, Mike Parks Jr., Antwann Jones, Wvin Olds, Victor Enoh, and David Wingett might have something to do with it.

Only Tyler Harris, Isaiah Maurice, and Alex Lomax return. That's got to be the least experienced team the university has fielded in a very, very long time.

Lol...One guys opinion...

But going back to another second year coach who brought in the 2nd rated recruiting class to Memphis...I think that team was preseason 15...So I do don't think much has changed.

(07-13-2019 02:53 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(07-13-2019 01:05 PM)passat25 Wrote:  They are biased toward the blue blood teams.. It's always been that way with ESPN.. They don't like us anyway.

I don’t know about liking but there is definite bias to blue bloods. Do you think “severe lack of experience” was ever used in conjunction with the number one recruiting classes Duke and Kansas has the past 10 years (they had virtually all of them)? Andy Katz used some strong language about Wiseman in his top 25 players. Again, reflecting what you said: biased reporting.

Those teams also returned solid cores of experienced quality players from the previous year.

We return some decent players but nothing near what these other teams returned from their tournament teams.

The beauty of college basketball is you get to prove it on the court. In college basketball the influence of the talking head blue blood bias is only on seeding, not on who gets to play for the the true national championship. Some day in the future (I hope in my lifetime) college football will produce its' first national champion. Then and only then will all college sports have a true champion.

(07-13-2019 04:06 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-13-2019 02:53 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(07-13-2019 01:05 PM)passat25 Wrote:  They are biased toward the blue blood teams.. It's always been that way with ESPN.. They don't like us anyway.

I don’t know about liking but there is definite bias to blue bloods. Do you think “severe lack of experience” was ever used in conjunction with the number one recruiting classes Duke and Kansas has the past 10 years (they had virtually all of them)? Andy Katz used some strong language about Wiseman in his top 25 players. Again, reflecting what you said: biased reporting.

Those teams also returned solid cores of experienced quality players from the previous year.

We return some decent players but nothing near what these other teams returned from their tournament teams.

Your ability to misinterpret fact is only exceeded by the arrogance of your belief that you are correct. Those KY and Kansas and Duke #1 recruiting classes joined squads that were less experienced less productive than what the Tigers have returning this year.

(07-13-2019 08:28 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(07-13-2019 04:06 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-13-2019 02:53 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(07-13-2019 01:05 PM)passat25 Wrote:  They are biased toward the blue blood teams.. It's always been that way with ESPN.. They don't like us anyway.

I don’t know about liking but there is definite bias to blue bloods. Do you think “severe lack of experience” was ever used in conjunction with the number one recruiting classes Duke and Kansas has the past 10 years (they had virtually all of them)? Andy Katz used some strong language about Wiseman in his top 25 players. Again, reflecting what you said: biased reporting.

Those teams also returned solid cores of experienced quality players from the previous year.

We return some decent players but nothing near what these other teams returned from their tournament teams.

Your ability to misinterpret fact is only exceeded by the arrogance of your belief that you are correct. Those KY and Kansas and Duke #1 recruiting classes joined squads that were less experienced less productive than what the Tigers have returning this year.

Memphis is returning three players total from last season. Two freshmen and one JUCO transfer. I'm pretty sure Memphis is returning less experience than most of the teams across the country.

Which Kansas, Kentucky or Duke teams returned less experience and/or production???

Also, I don't think Kansas has had a number one class in the last ten years. Pretty sure it's all Kentucky and Duke

(07-13-2019 04:06 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(07-13-2019 02:53 PM)WiseMan Wrote:  

(07-13-2019 01:05 PM)passat25 Wrote:  They are biased toward the blue blood teams.. It's always been that way with ESPN.. They don't like us anyway.

I don’t know about liking but there is definite bias to blue bloods. Do you think “severe lack of experience” was ever used in conjunction with the number one recruiting classes Duke and Kansas has the past 10 years (they had virtually all of them)? Andy Katz used some strong language about Wiseman in his top 25 players. Again, reflecting what you said: biased reporting.

Those teams also returned solid cores of experienced quality players from the previous year.

We return some decent players but nothing near what these other teams returned from their tournament teams.

If they did, they certainly had some early flameouts in the NCAAs.