Joe Scarborough: "It's only June, but last night was a disaster"
6 minutes well worth a listen.

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/...2863941639

Key points. Hard to argue with any of these.

- Too much yelling at each other all night
- Positions supporting illegal immigrants' free health care and non-criminality will hurt Dems
- Vast middle ground between Trump and last night's free-for-all policies
- Joe Biden way off his game
- Bernie was just yelling all night and didn't prepare, just repeated same 2016 stuff
- Criticized Harris. Is there really a Dem today in 2019 that would support busing?
- Is Biden's time up?

posting things from Joe don't go over well here.

(06-28-2019 08:58 AM)fsquid Wrote:  posting things from Joe don't go over well here.

Row tahd. He really didn't kill that girl in Florida then become a Democrat. Why would anyone think Joe was a loon.

(06-28-2019 08:58 AM)fsquid Wrote:  posting things from Joe don't go over well here.

Thanks for the heads up. Haven't really lurked here for a while, probably will do so more when election season heats up.

Still, his reactions to the debate last night mirror mine pretty closely.

My initial thoughts from last night:

-RIP Biden...however, once the black community wakes up and realizes how many black people Kamala Harris put in jail they'll turn on her in a heartbeat. Right now, all they see is "she's black, therefor she has my vote"...
-Bernie literally just shouts the same 4-5 phrases over and over
-Many thanks to Williamson for making chemtrails and antivaxxxing a Dem platform ha! What an absolute loon!

Also, has there EVER been a country that has an entire major political party prioritizing foreign non-citizens who break the law? You really have to ask yourself:

Are they banking on illegals to vote? (duh!)
Are they just incompetent (you betcha!)
Are they criminals (without a doubt!)
Are they really just dumb (yes!)

They won't say it but if they wont criminalize illegal immigration and they won't deport them...that's open borders! Then they will give them all healthcare! This is delusional. How can any sane person vote Democrat!???

Takeaways:

Biden acted like the frontrunner. Surely wasn't on his game but avoided gaffes and didn't say anything that would hurt his spot as top dog. Essentially pounded the "I am the guy that can beat Trump" tag.

Bernie just sounded like a time capsule from 2016.

Pete looked measured and intelligent in a crowd of loons.

Kamala was surprisingly astute and was the biggest winner. It will be interesting to see how much of a bump she gets from this performance.

The problem is that she has set the bar for herself pretty high and will have to continue to that level and if she doesn't the inevitable media turn will happen as they look for the next anointed one.

It will also to be interesting to see how the Kamala's, Pete's, and Warren's perform as the hunted instead of the hunters.

Interesting.

CNN’s King On Debate: Dem 2020 Candidates Are Farther Left Than “Any Modern Presidential Election”


Wow John, we hadn't noticed....

Biden and Sander both lost alot of ground last night..
Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg winners. I will predict that Buttigieg will be the President in his lifetime, he is simply too young this time around, but he was very impressive last night

Joe Scarborough lambastes 2nd Dem debate: A 'disaster' for Democrats, Biden's performance 'disturbing'

Even idiot Joe sees it...and it pains him to admit it.

I thought the media was supposed to be biased. Why are they criticizing Democrats. I was told they never do that. WTF.

(06-28-2019 10:01 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

That one.

The other one they need to run is when only TWO of them raised their hands that they would be okay with giving up their own private health insurance for a gov't run plan. Then 15 minutes they ALL raised their hand to skyrocket healthcare prices by adding illegal migrants.

(06-27-2019 09:37 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(06-27-2019 09:33 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  These people are insane

I agree with you on Williamson. I'm pretty sure she's an SNL cast member who snuck onto the stage on a dare.

If she was one of the chosen 20... how frickin' bad were the other 4 who didn't even get to see the stage????

(06-28-2019 10:12 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  I thought the media was supposed to be biased. Why are they criticizing Democrats. I was told they never do that. WTF.

Is late night comedy part of the media?

How about maybe instead of making college free, you make college "affordable" - any college receiving state or federal funds gets capped. If a Private College wants to butt-f**k you on costs... go for it, the competitive price pressure will kill that too.

When and early 20's kid out of college has a monthly bill that is bigger than a mortgage, and they are making entry level pay, they are not contributing to GDP or any other National Financial Health measurement of any kind for a long time - if ever.

These colleges are as much to blame for price gouging as hospitals are for health care price gouging.....

(06-28-2019 10:30 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 10:12 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  I thought the media was supposed to be biased. Why are they criticizing Democrats. I was told they never do that. WTF.

Is late night comedy part of the media?

Well, thats who CbBizzle gets his news from.

(06-28-2019 10:12 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  I thought the media was supposed to be biased. Why are they criticizing Democrats. I was told they never do that. WTF.

Some decent zingers to everyone not named Kamala Harris in that monologue.

As I said earlier, a lot of moderates and independents like Biden. There's a limit to how much race-baiting she should do on him.

I also find it interesting how much ageism is on display here. Doesn't seem very SJW-like when people are taking potshots at older candidates and insinuating that they won't do their jobs effectively because of age.

(06-28-2019 10:36 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  How about maybe instead of making college free, you make college "affordable" - any college receiving state or federal funds gets capped. If a Private College wants to butt-f**k you on costs... go for it, the competitive price pressure will kill that too.

When and early 20's kid out of college has a monthly bill that is bigger than a mortgage, and they are making entry level pay, they are not contributing to GDP or any other National Financial Health measurement of any kind for a long time - if ever.

These colleges are as much to blame for price gouging as hospitals are for health care price gouging.....

Maybe I'm old and don't understand, but the college loan and debt crisis seems foreign to me. I took out my last loan for undergrad in 2002. Paid for 2 years of grad school out of pocket in 2003 and 2004. My first payment was due when I was no longer a full time student, including grad school. I left school with a little under $32k in debt and my monthly payment has never been more than $160. What am I missing? Its the cheapest money I've ever borrowed.

(06-28-2019 10:41 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Some decent zingers to everyone not named Kamala Harris in that monologue.

As I said earlier, a lot of moderates and independents like Biden. There's a limit to how much race-baiting she should do on him.

I also find it interesting how much ageism is on display here. Doesn't seem very SJW-like when people are taking potshots at older candidates and insinuating that they won't do their jobs effectively because of age.

Correct.

And specifically, forced school busing will sell to Democrat-voting suburban soccer moms about as well as bikini calendars in a mosque.

These Dems need to be very careful about how they try and win over the woke crowd.

A lot of people that didn't really care for Hillary or Bernie will be voting in the primaries this time around.