That according to a poster on the BYU board and it seems to be generally accepted as the case. This is the current deal ... they are apparently in negotiations now with ESPN to extend the contract. New deal new terms I would assume. But with that caveat it would seem to me at the 7 million each AAC member gets together with Bowl money and college playoff money would make the amount more than the current BYU number at least.

(06-25-2019 02:36 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  That according to a poster on the BYU board and it seems to be generally accepted as the case. This is the current deal ... they are apparently in negotiations now with ESPN to extend the contract. New deal new terms I would assume. But with that caveat it would seem to me at the 7 million each AAC member gets together with Bowl money and college playoff money would make the amount more than the current BYU number at least.

If they do fb only they could still keep revenue from other sports. Cfp money is almost $1 million they would also get. Give them half of UConn's exit money and any additional increase in the tv deal. Boom... done

(06-25-2019 02:39 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:36 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  That according to a poster on the BYU board and it seems to be generally accepted as the case. This is the current deal ... they are apparently in negotiations now with ESPN to extend the contract. New deal new terms I would assume. But with that caveat it would seem to me at the 7 million each AAC member gets together with Bowl money and college playoff money would make the amount more than the current BYU number at least.

If they do fb only they could still keep revenue from other sports. Cfp money is almost $1 million they would also get. Give them half of UConn's exit money and any additional increase in the tv deal. Boom... done

McMurphy laid out a lot of the other positives for BYU .... it is a radio clip posted elsewhere on the board. I would have to think that if BYU decided not to join it wouldn't be because of money. I've also come around thinking that if we don't get Army or BYU.. stay at 11.

BYU would lose money on ticket sales by going from their current schedules to a less attractive AAC schedule.

(06-25-2019 02:48 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  BYU would lose money on ticket sales by going from their current schedules to a less attractive AAC schedule.

Certainly they front load with good schools but when the conference play starts the last half of their schedule doesn't look all that great. That said this year's BYU schedule looks really good probably it's best ever.

(06-25-2019 02:51 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:48 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  BYU would lose money on ticket sales by going from their current schedules to a less attractive AAC schedule.

Certainly they front load with good schools but when the conference play starts the last half of their schedule doesn't look all that great. That said this year's BYU schedule looks really good probably it's best ever.

It looks like their better games are usually in September. They'd be able to keep a lot of the good ones. They would just drop a lot of the MWC garbage.

2019:
08/29 - Utah
09/07 - at Tennessee
09/14 - USC
09/21 - Washington
09/28 - at Toledo
10/12 - at USF
10/19 - Boise State
11/02 - at Utah State
11/09 - Liberty
11/16 - Idaho State
11/23 - at UMass
11/30 - at San Diego State

In other words...

Wouldn't the AAC get more than $7 million/school with BYU in the conference?

(06-25-2019 02:48 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  BYU would lose money on ticket sales by going from their current schedules to a less attractive AAC schedule.

False, after the front loaded schedule they play for pride and pride alone. In the AAC they could play for a conference championship. Fans care about championships and it sucks to be 7-2 and out of the running for a NY6 bowl as an indy with nothing left to play for during all of November.

(06-25-2019 03:00 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Wouldn't the AAC get more than $7 million/school with BYU in the conference?

I guess if we added them for football only. UConn vacated a full slot on the media payouts, and BYU would only be taking a Navy share. Otherwise, it would be the same.

(06-25-2019 02:48 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  BYU would lose money on ticket sales by going from their current schedules to a less attractive AAC schedule.

They play the following teams in 2019 that would be replaced by the AAC conference schedule in theory.

UMass
Liberty
Idaho St
Utah St
Toledo
SDSU
Tennesse
USF

I don't think trading Tenn/SDSU/Utah St for a combo of Houston/UCF/Memphis/UC is any drop off. You would have to think Navy/Tulsa/SMU compare favorably to UMass/Liberty.

So in short, I don't think they are losing attendance.

(06-25-2019 03:02 PM)Billy Bob Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:48 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  BYU would lose money on ticket sales by going from their current schedules to a less attractive AAC schedule.

They play the following teams in 2019 that would be replaced by the AAC conference schedule in theory.

UMass
Liberty
Idaho St
Utah St
Toledo
SDSU
Tennesse
USF

I don't think trading Tenn/SDSU/Utah St for a combo of Houston/UCF/Memphis/UC is any drop off. You would have to think Navy/Tulsa/SMU compare favorably to UMass/Liberty.

So in short, I don't think they are losing attendance.

Plus ECU would send more fans to Provo than the visiting team plus the BYU fans that are sad about missing out on Toledo. It's a wash.

(06-25-2019 02:51 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:48 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  BYU would lose money on ticket sales by going from their current schedules to a less attractive AAC schedule.

Certainly they front load with good schools but when the conference play starts the last half of their schedule doesn't look all that great. That said this year's BYU schedule looks really good probably it's best ever.

BYU's future home schedules are much improved. And, BYU plays at least 4 games by 10/15 in most years - when the weather is the best anyway. In addition to the Utah game and September home games with Michigan State, Tennessee, Arizona State, Arizona, Stanford, Minnesota, Baylor, Oregon, etc., back-half October and November games include Virginia(twice), Missouri, Arkansas, Stanford, @USC, @Stanford, @NC State, @Baylor, @Washington St., in addition to back-half games with Boise State and the occasional other MWC and AAC schools.

Of course, we also have late-season FCS games most seasons, but those are scheduled when the weather is usually the worst anyway. The USC and Stanford road games over Thanksgiving weekend will help the end of year schedule tremendously.

(06-25-2019 03:04 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 03:02 PM)Billy Bob Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:48 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  BYU would lose money on ticket sales by going from their current schedules to a less attractive AAC schedule.

They play the following teams in 2019 that would be replaced by the AAC conference schedule in theory.

UMass
Liberty
Idaho St
Utah St
Toledo
SDSU
Tennesse
USF

I don't think trading Tenn/SDSU/Utah St for a combo of Houston/UCF/Memphis/UC is any drop off. You would have to think Navy/Tulsa/SMU compare favorably to UMass/Liberty.

So in short, I don't think they are losing attendance.

Plus ECU would send more fans to Provo than the visiting team plus the BYU fans that are sad about missing out on Toledo. It's a wash.

Look at 2020 through 2025 (2024 can use some help, though).

A BYU Sports Talk show had Brett McMurphy as a guest. They asked him if BYU should join the AAC. Shockingly---he thinks they should. He thinks BYU would be far more relevant in the AAC where they would be in the race for a NYD bowl. He also thinks they would make more in the AAC. McMurphys interview starts at about the 43.00 minute mark.

https://www.byutv.org/player/c0ce1aa7-4b...tion-62519

(06-25-2019 03:06 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 03:04 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 03:02 PM)Billy Bob Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:48 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  BYU would lose money on ticket sales by going from their current schedules to a less attractive AAC schedule.

They play the following teams in 2019 that would be replaced by the AAC conference schedule in theory.

UMass
Liberty
Idaho St
Utah St
Toledo
SDSU
Tennesse
USF

I don't think trading Tenn/SDSU/Utah St for a combo of Houston/UCF/Memphis/UC is any drop off. You would have to think Navy/Tulsa/SMU compare favorably to UMass/Liberty.

So in short, I don't think they are losing attendance.

Plus ECU would send more fans to Provo than the visiting team plus the BYU fans that are sad about missing out on Toledo. It's a wash.

Look at 2020 through 2025 (2024 can use some help, though).

Ok, sad about missing out on... Northern Illinois, Georgia Southern, Wyoming, UNLV, Georgia Southern revenge game, and whoever else you guys schedule in 2025. Some of those are away games, but you get my friggin point.

BYU will do nothing as an indy, book it.

We need to kick out a few members to get BYU to join. Only way to improve the schedule.

(06-25-2019 03:16 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  We need to kick out a few members to get BYU to join. Only way to improve the schedule.

Tulane. Why would Mormons want to go to New Orleans anyway? I would be like sending Charlie Sheen to Salt Lake City... culture clash.

(06-25-2019 03:22 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 03:16 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  We need to kick out a few members to get BYU to join. Only way to improve the schedule.

Tulane. Why would Mormons want to go to New Orleans anyway? I would be like sending Charlie Sheen to Salt Lake City... culture clash.

Lots of white powder surrounding Salt Lake


Have you any idea what the street value of this mountain is?

(06-25-2019 03:16 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  We need to kick out a few members to get BYU to join. Only way to improve the schedule.

Agree, any team that's gone 0-12, gone.